The Official MSI GT73VR Owners and Discussions Lounge

They are being sold in Asia, there have been reviews posted, but so far nothing in the same outlets that sold the GX700 in the US.

 

You do know that 60hz panel runs fine at 100hz? My GT80 and most everyone else in our forum has OC'd that panel to 100hz+, with reports of 105hz, 110hz, and even 120hz posted.

If you use RTSS+AB you can limit the frame rate to the refresh rate. I tune mine to be set at the refresh rate of the average FPS, then limit the FPS to refresh+1 to get tear free play. Sometimes games support vsync at the refresh rate so I use that.

I never missed not having g-sync on my GT80 18.4" screen, it's awesome at 100hz for gaming, and I have been able to tune every game to never have tearing. The same as I have done all the time before G-sync arrived.

I wish you would have posted more in the GT83VR/GT80 forums, we could have helped you get the most out of your GT83VR, and you might still have it today

Asus as a rule runs their CPU / GPU a little warmer than others while gaming, it keeps the noise down, so that's a plus for many of us. I like a quiet gaming laptop.

The G701VI will be a great laptop, so why not give it a try

 

I didn't even think about resellers. I also got a significant discount.

 

I'll wait for the GX800 1080

 

@Tyresian sounds like your reseller did a clean Windows 10 install on the upgraded SSD, instead of reinstalling the factory image. I'm not sure there's anything you can do to fix the error.

 

Hi all.

I have a msi gt73vr 6re configured with a 1070 and 6820. I am experiencing some rather strange and annoying issues.

Under normal use this laptop is flawless but when gaming it is completely unpredictable. At random the game can hang, the image starts fading and filling with lines then the screen will go black for a few seconds before returning to the desktop.

No error message is displayed in any game other than battlefield 1. Which says something about a dx error.

Now the laptop is up to date, windows anniversary, latest audio and gpu drivers as well as most current bios and ec. No matter what I try, eventually my game will crash.

Initially I though this may be a faulty unit so have received a like for like replacement but it behaves in the exact same way. Please help me diagnose this, i just want to get some gaming done!


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disable dx12

quit teamviewer

ddu clean install nvidia driver

 

Good luck this time around.

 

That explains it. The US policy must be different for some reason.

 

For your gee-wiz collection...these come from a GT73VR-017

Overclocked runs performed with:
CPU @ 4.2Ghz x 4 cores w/ +.15v
GPU Core +225
GPU mem +350

Stock Fire Strike: 12961
http://www.3dmark.com/fs/11074362

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Overclocked Fire Strike: 15635
http://www.3dmark.com/fs/11074719

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Overclocked Timespy: 5688
http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/16664240

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All runs were done with max fans. CPU hit 86, GPU hit 61. I'm pleased!

 

Seeing benchmarks gets me excited lol, I haven't had a desktop for almost a year so I've missed high performing benchmarks. I had the 6820HK and 970M but never really pushed them hard BC of cooling. So im waiting for my 73 to come in a few days

 

CPU at 4.2ghz? That's the highest I've seen so far! Great scores.

 

What programs are you guys using to increase GPU voltage?

 

Does dragon center work pretty good for OC? I see that XTU is also installed but it doesn't run because dragon center is installed.

 

Yet another update...

Now that i've taken more time to look over my replacement I found two more quirks, there is one stuck/dead pixel to the right and near center of the screen.
(Shows as stuck blue on a black background & shows as black on a blue/purple background)
...and the warranty sticker has already been cut in half/bisected right out of the box!!!

I'm somewhat at a loss on what to do...

First came with fan-pitch, good bezel, good screen, intact warranty sticker (which is placed over the center cover screw).
Second came with good fans, slightly protruding bezel, stuck pixel, pre-cut warranty sticker (unacceptable).
Which makes it seem like amazon might also be sending out units that have been returned by other buyers.

I hate that all I've mostly done is complain about this model so far, but these QC issues aren't exactly confidence inspiring.
I might stick with the first one I received and try to swap the fans myself, or initiate a warranty claim with MSI and hope nothing else is damaged in the process lol.

If anyone has a lead on where I can purchase the same model fans I would be very much appreciative, as I've only come up with parts for the GT70/GT72.
Otherwise hopefully MSI has them available for purchase.

 

Hi everyone,

Can't decide whether to pull the trigger on one these bad boys with a 6820HK CPU and 1080 GPU. The cost is the main thing holding me back.

I am so close to finally just purchasing it but i have a question for you guys first.

When Intel launch Kaby Lake at CES 2017 in the first week of January, do you think MSI will release an updated version of the GT73VR with the new Kaby Lake chips?

I would hate to purchase it now and in a few weeks be disappointed by MSI releasing updated models with more powerful and efficient CPU's. Equally, i am sick of waiting.

I have read Kaby Lake won't be much of an improvement in the desktop chips but haven't heard anything about the mobile chips. Anyone know if there will be much of an improvement?

 

Yes, MSI will likely release Kaby Lake models. Not sure when. GPU and the rest are probably going to remain the same as in the current GT73VR lineup.

 

as @SAiLO said, MSI will release Kaby Lake model but question is;

Does Kaby Lake mobile chip support CM236 Chipset ? If it does then there will be not be big change in hardware in the current GT73VR lineup.

As far release date, it is 10week 2017 (March 2017) Kaby Lake mobile chip. So we will not see the new Kaby Lake before April 2017 in MSI laptops lineup.

 

So I originally created a support ticket via the main MSI website with my login, to which I go the reply about not allowed to remove the warranty sticker. I then sent an email to [email protected] and got the reply
"... MSI users are allowed to void the warranty sticker to upgrade RAM, HDD and also for cleaning purposes. However, please note that any hypothetical dames which may occur during mentioned actions will not be covered under manufacturer's warranty (for e.g. scratches, broken pieces, damaged pins etc.) This most be done gently."

So yea UK support via email is more accepting of users needs it seems.

 

This " actions will not be covered under manufacturer's warranty (for e.g. scratches, broken pieces, damaged pins etc.)" brings a question I wanted to ask

Does IC Diamond scratch CPU/GPU & Heat-sink ?

I read the whole story on EVGA Forum and also a thread here on NBR.

Some says ICD does scratch and some says no it doesn't, what I learn is that no one said that when applying ICD scratch the surface but most of users said when cleaning (rubbing) the ICD scratch the surface of CPU/GPU or heat-sink.

anyone who has experience of applying ICD and reapplying multiple times on same CPU/GPU and heatsink...?

 

I've had similar issues with amazon. First unit would constantly crash to desktop whilst gaming. Second is doing exactly the same. Now this is either a characteristic of the laptop or I've been very unlucky and had two faulty gpu's.

It's funny you mention the warranty sticker. On my first one I noticed the sticker had been cut too.



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It sounds like someone else sent it back because of the stuck pixel and the vendor just sent it to you as new. I would return it based on the sticker alone along with a 1 star review for the vendor. Where did you buy yours if you don't mind me asking.

There is a thread here you may be interested in. http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/msi-gt73vr-with-kaby-lake.799214/

As I mentioned above it sound like you are getting someone's reject. I would rate the vendor 1 star, they hate that. Also write down the specific details. These vendors are just selling these rejects hoping the problems wont be discovered by the next guy, we deserve more for the money.

 

I had the exact same experience from Amazon. Used stuff being sent as new. Bought from new egg and got a genuine new unit. Just send it back and buy somewhere else. You don't deserve someone else's reject.

Also, responding to a question asked earlier, I'm adding voltage in the BIOS. A voltage setting of '100' in the BIOS corresponds to +.100v

I can't believe how much voltage it takes to get this chip to 4.2ghz. Fortunately the cooling is awesome on this machine. I would love to see a barbones of this chassis and cooling but with an LGA 6700k... Just like the Tornado F5 / 16l13

 

Amazon can be hit or miss on their stuff because they are warehousing items for sellers and shipping it under the same item number with prime shipping. So if two people order the same laptop one might get the one from Amazon and the other might get one from Xotic PC even though they are both shipped by Amazon. Amazon does make up for some of this by having a great return and exchange policy where Newegg can be a pain with returns.

I bought 2 GT73VR models - one from Amazon and one from Newegg. They both arrived quickly and in good shape. Newegg packed theirs better by using an outer box over the MSI cardboard so the laptop was protected by 3 boxes vs Amazon that shipped it in the original brown cardboard outer.

Both laptops had the same build date and the warranty sticker on both was in the upper corner above the nvidia sticker. The sticker wasn't covering a screw on either and was just over the seam between the bottom cover and frame. The sticker was mostly broken on both, almost like it was pressed into the crack a little.

 

Yeah I think you're right, also if I press F3 at boot it says there is an error with the OS and it must be recovered. In the end I made a standard Windows 10 install on USB and swapped my own SSD into the laptop instead of the one it came with and installed the OS and then drivers / applications myself.

Fantastic overclock. I haven't tried hitting 4.2 Ghz yet (I set without extra voltage and it crashed) but I've been able to successfully run 4.1 Ghz at stock voltage and GPU Core +250 and GPU Mem +250 and I got just over 15k for Fire Strike.

However, how are you overclocking your GPU? I uninstalled Dragon Center and am using Afterburner BUT I notice after a certain point it looks like the Memory OC doesn't apply, no matter what number I change it to the set numbers on the left don't change. I haven't had time to research this more yet as I didn't get to play around with it until late last night.

 

IO bought my GT73 at Newegg and it was in good shape but I had paid for overnight shipping and it took two days, I had to file a complaint with the BBB to get a refund so Newegg went down a few notches in my book. The laptop was new and an awesome machine and I got %0.0 interest for 12 months so it was satisfactory transaction but not to the same level I have had with them over the years buying over %90 of the parts for my 6 builds plus countless other electronic items.

Now I had a friend buy a GT62 from Newegg and it was a lemon, he returned it for a refund and ordered one from Amazon. The Amazon one was in three boxes, had protective tape on the logo and when turned it on for the first time there was the Windows welcome screen whereas the lemon he bought from Newegg booted right to desktop. My friend is %99 sure Newegg sent him an open box item as if it were new.

I guess when buying from any mass retailer you just have to be on top of any issues by being informed and proactive.

 

now people selling it on ebay used MSI GT73VR Titan Pro-201

good deal if you wana play with it and tear it apart......can't get more cheaper with GTX1080......

 

What warranty sticker? I completely rubbed mine out permanently! one of the dodgiest stickers i ever saw. It doesn't sit right with this beast.

 

My reseller didn't include a warranty sticker but did add a bunch of ugly stickers everywhere else. I removed most of them easily. Did anyone remove the stickers on the wrist-rest?

 

There used to be a bad batch of ICD that did scratch GPUs and CPUs which they fixed but the way they handled their customer service meant that I will never ever buy any of their products ever again.

When the CEO of the company goes on a forum and calls his customers liars for claiming his product is scratching CPUs and GPUs (even though people had submitted proof of it happening) and pretty much telling them to go **** off shows to me that he doesn't give a **** about anything but making money. I, therefore, refuse to support that company.

Go use thermal grizzly if you want the best non-metallic paste, or prolimatech pk-3 if you want one that's a little bit more durable (temperature difference between PK-3 and thermal grizzly on my GT73 was like 1-2C but PK-3 is quite a bit cheaper and lasts quite a bit longer). There's nothing special about ICD and pretty much any of the top tier pastes will give you temperatures that are, for all intents and purposes, almost identical to it with a few beating it.

I did, I removed all the stickers but the NVidia and warranty one on the bottom. It's not too hard to do and they're ugly. I don't need a giant sticker on the palm rest telling me the specs of the laptop that I bought. I already know the specs because guess what...I bought it for those specs.

I have no idea why some of the ODMs and Clevo resellers like to do that so much. Just be like alienware and keep it nice and clean.

 

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i think this might be the one I returned. It's coming from the same place I sent it.

 

I wouldn't hold my breath for Kaby Lake. It's CPU won't be better than current Skylake unless your properly tweak it. Considering the very low CPU speeds these core i7 have on stock, I doubt Kaby Lake will be worth it for CPU performance. It also has the same IPC and the extra performance comes from extra clockspeed, but this won't matter on mobile when you have unlocked CPUs.

Don't wait. Skylake and Kaby Lake will be basically identical in performance.

 

Exactly.

http://m.hardocp.com/article/2016/12/09/intel_kaby_lake_core_i77700k_ipc_review#.WFGTqLVOKEc

Maybe there will be some power savings for slightly longer battery life but for a gaming machine that is plugged in most of the time it won't matter.

 

new nvidia drivers 376.33

Release Note

 

I think it's all about the store display even though I have never bought a floor model, or a laptop from a store for that matter. I keep the stickers on in case I sell it but I haven't sold one yet.

 

Should I be using high performance or balanced plan while gaming? When I look at the details it appears the only difference is that balanced will downclock the CPU when not being utilized where high performance runs full speed all the time?

However I swear that the fans seem to run faster and louder on balance. Maybe I'm just insane?

 

But when a company custom builds a PC and applies extra stickers even though it is a custom order and directly shipped to a customer that doesn't make sense... Eh I don't get it. I don't mind the old black i7 stickers but on a black laptop the blue one really sticks out, besides the billion other stickers, I'll have to upload a picture later.

Are you using Dragon Center? If so you'll want to adjust settings through there I believe. If you aren't using Dragon Center you would usually set High Performance mode unless there is some quirk on this laptop I'm not aware of. I was using High Performance for my tests last night and the fans never really spun up but temps stayed low. I haven't tried balanced mode yet. Usually balanced just allows for the processor to run at lower frequencies and then it has to adjust when more load is demanded, Skylake actually brought a huge performance to how quickly this adjustment happens from what I understand which depending on your use-case may make it worth using Balanced.

 

seems like they put on the promotional material from the box

 

Yeah I bought from iBuyPower... It was all a mostly bad experience but the price was far better than anyone else offered. They threw a big iBuyPower sticker on the lid of the laptop that took up about 1/3rd of the space but luckily it came right off. It also had a big red white and blue "Assembled and Tested in the USA" sticker right above the display that was incredibly distracting when it was so light colored and the rest of the laptop is black... I mean if anything put that on the bottom of the laptop.

 

I am using only afterburner and have not been looking at the numbers reported in afterburner--only reported in HW info during benchmarks. I was observing similar behavior though and my thought is the card is power limited somehow. When I set my core to +250, the memory overclock doesn't go past about +275 even though I set it to 350. If I set the core to +225, memory will go up past +300.

This is similar behavior from my water-cooled Titan XP in my desktop rig where I can set memory to +500 and core to +200, but it will hit a hard power limit before reaching those speeds even though temps are only at 55c. It power throttles the core down to +150 and gives preference to the memory OC. If I reduce memory clocks to +150 on the Titan, I can sustain +200mhz on core. The happy medium for me was +175 core and +300 mem on that card, so I suspect I need to do similar on this 1070...find the optimum balance between core and mem.

I also plan to plug this machine into my watt meter at home. With an OC on the CPU and GPU, I suspect I'm coming awfully close to the maximum wattage of the 230w PSU that is included. I've seen the 4.2ghz CPU report an 80+ watt draw in HWInfo and an overclocked 1070 could be as high as 140-150w. I have not stressed both components to the max simultaneously (as would be done in P95 + Furmark) but I am curious how it would do with gaming or 3dmark at these speeds.

I will also repaste with gelid extreme. Temps are already awesome with the stock paste....they can only get better.

 

Tools used: Heaven Benchmark 4.0 and afterburner 4.3.

TBH I can't remember exactly lol....something to do with overclocking your gpu until its unstable esp the r5X mem to insane clocks like 11,000+mhz (effective data-rate) or about +400 to 600 in msi afterburner.

Nvidia drivers will reset everything to stocks, once it detects your gpu is overloaded, unigine heaven benchmark will also crash/freeze/reset and then u just have to check nvidia's CPL. Best to run heaven in windows mode with everything at max. so u can see how far u can push your gpu. leave gpu core low like 160~170 so that the rx5 mem can be pushed.

Its something I don't recommend you doing or bother. We have already established its 100% 8bit panel capable. Nvidia will force default to 8bpc, because once u select 8bit, the 6bit goes away or never becomes available again.

But its also a good way to play around with OC

 

After 3 months of owning my GT73VR-6RF I have encountered the following issues.

1. Screen Bleed at the bottom (120Hz version IPA panel). Which became more visible in recent days.
2. GPU toggle button no longer works. (Stopped working after a windows update, troubleshooting involved reinstalling SCM and Dragon Center - Did not fix the issue.)
3. Steel series button no longer pulls if the steel series app. (Reinstalling the newest version of Steel Series) did not resolve the problem.
4. When Xotic PC sent me this laptop it came with a green dragon logo, and not the white logo I had chosen at the time of purchase.

My experience with Xotic was fairly predictable as I was far out of my 15-day return policy. And the RMA process is around 10 days. This being my work PC that would be impossible and they do not send temp laptops to use while yours is being worked on. So your basically just S.O.L..

My biggest issues are these....

I should not have screen bleed on a laptop I spent 3200 dollars on, and if it does happen, at least offer a temp for working people. I understand there is always a chance of getting a bad unit, so this one I can let go since it is RMA fixable.

As for giving me a green dragon instead of the white one I ordered, Xotic PC did say that could be swapped with by RMA'ing it as well.

But, I SHOULD NOT have to worry about my laptops hardware buttons (GPU Toggle, and Steel Series button) becoming in-active or broken after a windows update. Windows updates often, and I don't want to have to RMA my laptop every time it happens.

I'm now worried about the future of this laptop. Eventually, my warranty will run out, and this laptop is a desktop replacement that should last longer than 2 years. Which means that everytime windows updates outside of my warranty, I will then have to pay to get it fixed.

Had I known...

The screen had bleed RIGHT OUT OF THE BOX - I wouldn't have bought it. (MSI rep said ALL IPA screens have a degree of bleed and that its normal)
The GPU toggle button, and the Steel Series button have a chance of breaking upon installing Windows Updates - I wouldn't have bought it.
The wrong color logo - Really Xotic PC? I spent 3200 on this thing and you didn't even get my logo right? The red coloring on the laptop makes it look like a Christmas themed laptop. - I wouldn't have bought it. (Based not only on aesthetics, but lack of attention to detail during manufacture)

Like anyone, after spending 3200 dollars on a laptop you would hope to never encounter these issues. Especially after only 3 months... Realistically though, it could happen.

Unfortunately now I'm afraid to update windows because it might cause more buttons to function incorrectly.

I of course am very dissatisfied with this product and would like MSI or Xotic PC to contact me for an exchange or return.

I will be posting this review on every review site possible. Because I don't believe anyone should pay 3200 for a laptop that 3 months down the line will encounter screen bleed, hardware button malfunction, and poor manufacturing with lack of attention to detail.

Thanks, and Happy Holidays!

 

Unfortunately Windows 10 forces these updates and they do cause issues. You may have already done this but make sure windows updates fully then re install SCM and any new drivers. Could you post of picture of the light bleed?

 

Fyi, once you resigter your laptop on MSI's site, you get a few Steam code for Mafia III.

 

Yeah, that's a bit unfair to MSI. The blame for the breakage rests with Microsoft. Now if they don't put out a timely fix, that's a legitimate complaint.

 

I have the same bezel problems too. left and right. i can live with it only abit. i pulled the left side and made the black tape stick fixed it abit better. now the right side is giving me the shzit...pulled it out more then press hard for that black tape to stick - but the gap only went up...one of these days

expensive laptop but to deal with this quality...my space bar also annoyed me. but using it more now. its alittle bit better.

didn't want to go thru RMA - your story just kept me away from msi warranty. ONLY if its really serious case like CPU/Memory/GPU/Screen failures/defects than for sure get a replacement.

just these minor issues. no perfect laptop i guess. there is more positives than the negatives. but as i said before...AW is the apple of laptops. quality all the way. too bad they need a repaste kit out of the box so it seems.

 

I've read that 3M automotive tape works pretty good. I might try pulling this thing off and retape it one of these days. No, I'll never again RMA to MSI unless it's something serious. Not only does it take too long but it costs me $80 to ship it.

 

This is an issue with IPS (and IPS-Level) screens. You kindoff have to play the lottery with them, mine came with a little but its in a corner and you really can't see it unless you're specifically looking for it so I didn't bother RMAing it.

I'm going to call ******** on that. Not saying you are but the MSI rep / XoticPC rep, if that's what they told you happened...they're lying.

I have 3 laptops that use Windows 10 (1 alienware, 1 MSI GT73VR, 1 MSI GS60) and they are all upto date with Windows updates. Every single hardware button on all 3 laptops works.

Test it by rolling back the windows update (either by using system restore or uninstalling it). If it starts working again then I'm wrong and it really was a windows update, if it doesn't then its a hardware issue that Xotic/MSI are bullshitting you on.

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But that does suck and I'm 100% on your side. If you are spending that much money on a laptop it better be ****ing perfect. I prefer to buy mine with Amazon or Newegg (this one is from Newegg because they got the stock in first lol) because their return processes are largely painless and quick. Especially Amazon. Only downside is you can't customize it like you can with resellers.

I just wish MSI had warranty service like Dell has (at least on their premium, business and/or alienware lines). Something broke? They will overnight you the replacement part and if you need a technician he/she will be over tomorrow. No need to ship your laptop in, you can fix it yourself if you want, and I've never had to argue about getting something replaced.

 

With this generation of laptops my MSI experience has been FAR better than AW. I went through a couple AW machines before giving up and trying MSI. Alienware today isn't the Alienware of the past, which is unfortunate.

After using both machines and opening them up I would say that the AW uses nicer materials but the MSI was better assembled with more attention to detail and is much easier for an enthusiast to service themselves.

 

You all should know those "stickers" makes your notebook run faster