The Official MSI GT70-2OD Owner's Lounge

Any displayport cable should work.

 

Use this adapter.
Mini DP to DP adapter

 

Does anyone know if a GT70 will fit in the North Face Router backpack? The dimensions of the Router laptop compartment are listed as 17.5” x 10.5” x 2” and the dimensions of the GT70 are listed as 16.85 x 11.34 x 2.17. That 11.34 might be a problem, but no way of really knowing without trying it. Does anyone have any first-hand knowledge?

 

It's barely going to fit, unless the side wall is flexible.

 

I've been happy with the Patagonia Black Hole 35L pack. Patagonia Black Hole Pack 35L

 

so, with 980m coming out, do you think the bios would have a chance of supporting it in our gt70s?

 

Possibly, I can find the answer to this somewhere in the 100000 post thick MSI GT02 owners thread........but I am sure that someone might be able to just tell me, which of course is tenfold easier for me.

I have just checked the tests for the GTX 980M, and am obviously very impressed. Whilst the desktop variants of these cards where underwhelming in terms of raw power (imo), obviously the greatly reduced power draw has resulted in GPUs capable of greatly increased performance in the limited confines of a laptop setup.

My question is simple.

How do I go about upgrading from my GTX 780M, to the GTX 980M?

Are there any business that conduct upgrades of this description? I am in the UK, and therefore such a business would also have to be within UK.

Is it the 'done thing' to simply buy a mobile GPU chip, much the same as it is with their desktop counterparts, and simply plug the thing yourself? If so, where can they be bought? I only see such things as mobile GPU chips on E-bay, but I am not sure if I am up for getting something like that from E-bay. I would much prefer to source the item from an established reseller, preferably UK based, but like I say, I just don't see anywhere that sells these things.

I am sure some of the notebook enthusiasts on this forum are doing stuff like this all the time and will be able to give a complete n00b like myself, a few helpful starting pointers.

Cheers.

 

There are sites that are announcing new GT70 and GT60 skus with 900m GPUs. I imagine that it might be possible. Perhaps not "official" but should work without problems.

 

hmmm... keep me posted guys, it seems pointless to get a new laptop of the same make just for a gpu, and besides, so much files on a laptop, and installed programs we have over time

 

Trust me, if you have a 780m a small OC will do the trick to keep you near 970m in performance. Seek the absolute power of 980m only if you need it. And considering the new models are coming out with the new GPU, I will ask resellers if we can upgrade our GT series.

 

There is a good chance they will work with a new heatsink. Card supply will be super tight though so you may have to wait a bit.

 

As far as I have read online, only the new GT72 MSI Notebooks have the feature to change the GPU, and our GT70s don't have the separate slot in and out for GPU. I could be wrong.

 

You are.

 

I plan to get a 980m for my GT60 as well. I am fairly certain they won't be made available to current GT60/70 owners though. We will have to find someone to purchase it for us, or find an alternative vendor. It should be plug and play. I would assume the heatsink will have to be modded.

 

The difference is official support. MSI is officially supporting GT72 upgrades. They are not on the GT60 or 70. These do however still use MXM cards. I saw certain people spreading that on Youtube as well, it may not work but we don't know yet. They are physically compatible with a new heatsink.

 

I plan on getting a 980m too for my GT60 (780m). Current heatsinks and the newer 900m cards need a bit of modding, mostly near the farthest part from the mxm connector. There are some components that differ in number and height. The rest is okay. One way could be to get the GT72 kit from MSI (for the card itself) and the heatsink from other sources (majster here on NBR or from ebay).
I think 16f3/16f4/1763 motherboard models should have no problem installing the newer cards

 

I might consider upgrading the GPU on the GT60 too, though I don't think my wife needs it right now. Maybe in a year or two once they drop a bit in price. Meanwhile I might get a new GT72

 

I am the owner of a MSI GT70 am.
I ordered a GT72.
The GT70 could be too hot with the 980m graphics chip.
For this you can use thermal pads and thermal paste for the Grafichip.
But it can also be, that needs to be installed on the graphics card, a new VBIOS.
Then just adds that the GT72 has a two-fan system.
The GT70 has to regulate everything of a fan.
Once the GT72 is there, I will sell the GT70.
The GT72 is the worse processor.
The graphics card also scales with the processor.
But it does not look much.
In the GT70 could also provide the underbody with perforated grille.
Or you cut with a Dremel from the fan discharge and lay there under a fine perforated grille.

 

if only there were an easy way to know, I see a few sellers with the gt70 chassis and 980m gpus installed on their lists such as powernotebooks(where my laptop came from) but no way to see the inside for a closer look

 

With a new heatsink it's physically compatible bios support needs to be checked though.

 

The upgrade in Europe is called by MSI at the following website:

Le prix des upgrades GTX 970M et 980M au format MXM est connu chez MSI et ça pique ! - Le comptoir du hardware

It will be possible to buy a MXM package for the GT72 at retail.
Hot air hair dryer on the x-bracket and try all the chips with WLPads cover.
New VBIOS.
New WLP on the 980m chip and then hope that it works and for 800 euros in Europe.
I'm guessing that will cost the 980m at upgrade monkey so around 1000 euros or $ 1,200?

New also a 980m on Ebay.
Unfortunately, not for MSI, but only for Clevo, Alienware, XMG, Sager ...

http://www.ebay.de/itm/nVidia-GTX98...er_Computer_Graphikkarten&hash=item462a26aee1

 

It's going to be very interesting if they do move in and sell the VGA cards.
Perhaps why they are limiting this to GT72 but not older models since there could be some limitation or compatibility with older models.
Most likely, some cards will work, and some will not, but the manufacturer cannot spare resources to test VGA cards on the older models.

 

I fancy the gt02, but I just am not a fan of the redesign, it reminds me of the alienware chassis with msi features. that's why I liked the gt70 design, it was unique in its own way, it had a stylish dashboard above the keyboard(I have a perminant fingerprint on the turbo fan function from using that all the time), and everything seemed to fit into place, and I never had any heat problems either (unless I overclocked it to my personal highest stable settings and played the original crisis above 50 fps max setting, like I still do today)

nonetheless, I wouldn't want to spend 2 grand for a new laptop(when this one I have is only 10 months old) when I can spend 700 or 800 dollars for a 980m upgrade

 

Has anybody noticed anything strange in the newest BIOS update available from MSI support site here: MSI Global - Computer, Laptop, Notebook, Desktop, Motherboard, Graphics and more ?

The description is 'Increase AMD R9-M290X SKU', as I know my GT70-2OD doesn't have a Radeon chip.

One other question to all the experts: have you been able to get your laptop to ever use the quietest fan speed, without third party app like fan control? I can only get my OD2 silent by starting and then quitting the fan control program available in this very thread and that gets a bit annoying to do all the time. There was a firmware update from MSI a week ago that should have had 'updated fan control table', but it did nothing for the problem - the machine doesn't get quiet even when doing nothing with it! My power settings are on balanced, so the CPU should get down to 10% speed when idle.

 

Hello

I can see that the GT70 will be available with the 970M. Do you know if it will also come with the 980M? The GT72 is ridiculously expensive...

 

We have not seen any GT70 with 980M planned. Looks like the entry level GT72 with 980M is the GT72 Dominator Pro-211

 

The GT70/60 design is based on the Asus G50/G70s series from way before, but with much less flare (after the GX660 and GT660 series from MSI heh).

Personally the new GT72 looks great, and it doesn't matter to me if it resembles another notebook. Every notebook available right now is based on a previous design, even from other manufacturers. You are bound to see similarities.

 

so... has anyone compared ingame benchmarks so far with our legacy 780ms and the 980ms that now are the superior mobile gpus? such as crysis, assetto corsa, or maybe even the original unoptimized metros? if the frame rates aren't that different, I might just consider to start building a desktop with sli x80 gpus

 

This...is...AMAZING!!!!

 

Hey all. Gt70 780m owner here. Quick question for anyone who runs into this.

It seems when running the BIOS in legacy mode for windows 7, I cannot disable the bigfoot network boot agent. This adds time to the boot process and is un-needed. This was a known issue about a year ago and was wondering if there was ever a solution or BIOS update that addressed this?

Thanks!

 

Have you talked to svet over at the msi.com forum?

 

I am looking for some help regarding my MSI GT70 2od - 19US, running win7(64) and had been suffering from the following issues.
1. system crash every so often, usually after unlocking screen saver
2. USB 3 with USB to ESATA and USB3 external raid drives require a powered usb3 hub
3. currently running bios E1763IMS.311 because the version I was told by msi almost bricked my computer, is the afore mentioned the best one to use for my laptop running win7(64)?

Thanks for any assistance/advice

 

1. Do an OS factory recovery to see if this is caused by a corrupted OS.
You can do this by tapping on the F3 key during power on to activate it, and then follow the instructions.
2. Can you show us the model of devices you were trying to attach to your notebook? Not all devices can be powered directly by the USB port since they require external power source.
3. You can use any of the latest version for your notebook, and 311 is for Win7. And 511/711 will work for both Win7/Win8.

 

Kevin,

Thanks for the reply.
1. my original bios was E1763IMS.703, 04/24/13 11:30:39 Ver:04.06.05
- subsequently running E1763IMS.311 I have not encountered any system crashes YET

2. The following would not connect properly when directly connected to any of the USB3 ports of the GT70, but when connect through a powered USB3 hub (UNITEK 3 Port USB 3.0 hub with Multi-In-1 Card Reader with 5V 2A adapter) they would connect and operate as expected
a. (Dyconn Quartz 2 - 2 Bay RAID and JBOD Enclosure - 3.5 Inch Hard Drive eSATA, USB 3.0, RAID Storage System)
- prior to connecting through the powered USB HUB, I would have to connect via the USB2 port.
b. BYTECC Bytecc Usb3-Esata Usb3-Esata Superspeed Usb 3.0 To Esata 3Gbs Adaptor
c. WD Passport 2TB drive, depending on the USB3 port, some times the HD would be recognized, some times not, or it would work.

3. 711 was what was recommended by MSI and it caused the laptop to completely fail with a RED error banner, i did not write down the error code though.

 

1. You could try 710 and see how it works out.

2. Possibly weak USB signal, how long is the USB 3.0 cable? Please try a shorter cable.
Also, what OS are you running? Win7 or Win8.x?

3. 511/711 added support for R9-M290X, so try 510/710 instead. If it's still bad, then do 50Z/70Z as last resort.

 

Kevin,

1. Thanks for the suggestion about 710, at this time cannot take any more chances of causing my laptop to "brick"
2. regarding USB 3 cabling, i am using cabling between 6in to approx 18in.
3. I am running WIN7 (64) 6.1, build 7601 sp.1; i7-4900MQ CPU @ 2.80GHz, NVIDIA GeForce GTX 780M

 

What version of USB 3 driver are you using?

 

Kevin,

The USB3 driver I am using is the following

-- USB3 Driver - 2.5.3.34 / iusb3drv.20131118-0550

 

Here's latest version Version: 3.0.1.41 (Latest) Date: 10/10/2014.
Click here.

 

Does anyone know how to contact Pearson? Seems like he doesn't use these forums anymore.

I love his fan control tool, but I want the program to automatically close after it "auto-starts" when the computer turns on.

Steps:
1) Computer starts.
2) Fan control tool automatically starts.
3) Fan profile automatically applied. ------> Currently it goes only up to this step so u have to close the program every time.
4) Fan control tool automatically closes. ------> I want the program to automatically close once the profile has been applied (since the program doesn't need to be open once profile is applied).

Also I'm sure u can probably do this using Task Scheduler, but I'm having problems since I don't know the command to TASKKILL a process whose name has spaces in it (eg/ TASKKILL /IM notepad.exe is easy, but u can't TASKKILL /IM gt70 fan control.exe). Need some help here lol.

 

I am currently running my GT70 20D through my TV in the lounge, hooking it up with an HDMI cable and effectively using it as a high grade games console with internet etc.

Annoyingly, everytime I turn it on, I have to remove and reinsert the HDMI cable in order for Windows to recognise the HDMI sound card. I am guessing that plenty other people will be using their laptop in a similar way from time to time and am wondering if anyone knows of a way in which this bug can be remedied?

 

Try updating the Intel HD Graphics driver.
Download page

 

I found the solution.

go to fan control folder and copy paste the GT70 Fan Control.exe, rename the new exe file with _ like GT70_Fan_Control.exe therefore it has no spaces. so just use the GT70_Fan_Control.exe instead of GT70 Fan Control.exe.

Now open the notepad and rename the file name to taskkill.bat or whatever you like to call it.

Put this scrip into the tskkill.bat and save it.

CD\
CD C:\Windows

taskkill /im gt70_fan_control.exe

Go to Task Scheduler and change the action to taskkill.bat instead of trying to run the taskkill /im.



And if you don't like to all the texts from the batch file you can add @echo off at the begging of the script like this:


@echo off
CD\
CD C:\Windows

taskkill /im gt70_fan_control.exe

Works for me.

 

To be honest I ended up solving this problem myself yesterday. Took me a few hours to figure out everything and created the right Task (which I called Fan Control Stop) but I did it

1) I found out how to end a process with space in its name, all u do is use taskkill /IM gt70* where * is a wildcard, so any process starting with gt70 is killed. So that's the Action part of the Task Scheduler solved.


2) Now, finding and defining the correct Trigger was the much harder part of the task. I went into Event Viewer, and using control+F searching "fancontrol" I identified the relevant events when my GT Fan Control program launches at start-up, which I found to have an event ID of 7045. However I noted that there were two events with that ID.

Where the first event is the applying of the fan profile via RW-everything. Second, the launching of Hardware Monitor. This is because I have the GT70 Fan Control program set so that it applies the fan profile (Preferences -> Fan speed on start up), as well as open Hardware Monitor (Preferences -> Hardware Monitor -> Show on Startup) whenever the program itself is launched.


3) So it works if you use a Basic Trigger with the event ID 7045. It does the job but you will briefly see two black cmd boxes on start up, since it's trying to apply the Action twice due to having two triggers. Of course u can hide the cmd boxes using the Hidden property. But ideally the Action only needs to be applied once, otherwise a Warning is logged.


4) As a result I resorted to a Custom Trigger so I can define the trigger more precisely, which I did via the XML tab. Of the two triggers possible I used the RW-everything trigger, since I know I'm always going to have the "Fan speed on start up" option on.


5) The end result is perfect, with the GT70 Fan Control opening, applying fan profile as well as opening Hardware Monitor (of which I further set to open in the system tray), then closing itself all within 2 seconds.

 

Ah, the old updating the drivers trick!

Cheers for the tip, but no cigar!

 

@Ken,

So the batch file u created basically serves identical purpose as my taskkill /IM gt70* right?

My question here is what did u use as the trigger, did u create a new Task? Or did u just shove the above Action underneath the original task "Fan Control", because in your screenshot I don't see the the original Action of starting "c:/fancontrol/gt70 fan control.exe".

 

While HDMI is functional, can you look at screen resolution property and identify which graphics adapter the TV is using? It might be GeForce but just want to make sure.
Have you also updated your Nvidia graphics to the latest version?

 

That's what a flashing blue battery LED means? I thought it was supposed to blink orange when the battery needed replacing. That's what the manual says. Did they make a mistake on the color, or is blinking blue different from blinking orange (and what's the difference then)?

I just started seeing this today, but the blinking blue light only happens at 100% charge. If I let the battery discharge a little, then start charging, I get the usual orange light. But once it hits 100%, it starts blinking blue again. I used some software to check the wear on the battery and it's only about 15%; that doesn't seem like it should be enough to trigger a replacement warning. Normally I run off AC power, so if the battery really is having problems, it's not a serious issue for me. If I stay plugged in, the laptop should stay powered up just fine; I'll just have the minor annoyance of the blink

However, I might want to replace the battery eventually if it is worn out or something, especially if I plan on traveling with the laptop at some point. I did some searching, but was having trouble finding where to purchase a replacement though. From what I saw, it was either ~$65 and out-of-stock, or "call for availability" for ~$150. I don't remember if I saw it in-stock anywhere I checked. Can someone suggest a place to order a replacement battery? Thanks!

 

This is still a battery issue. Has it within one year of your purchase still? If yes then contact MSI directly for warranty service.

 

Thanks for the reply. No, it's been ~1.5 years since I bought the machine. But I got it from XOTICPC where my order form says, "Warranty: 2 Year MSI US/Canada Parts & Labor 1 Year Global Warranty w/ Lifetime Tech Support", so maybe they can help since a battery issue is parts, I'm in the US, and it's within 2 years of purchase. It would help if I knew exactly what the blinking blue battery LED meant, but maybe they will.

FWIW, I unplugged the charger to see how the battery is working, and it seems OK. The estimated time is about what I've seen before when doing an occasional battery discharge, and it doesn't seem to be dropping precipitously or anything. It seems strange that it would be giving some kind of warning if it's still working OK.