That's exactly why I opted for the 6700K.. Because I was about to go with the 35wattt 6700T but then realized that the K can be undervolted/underclocked to match pretty much anything.
Although being there's like literally NO reviews on the 6700T I believe this may be some sort of golden CPU from Intel which is why there's a small $60 premium when buying it that it has such a strong undervolt from the factory allow for a 35watt TDP at 3.6ghz. However, I can't seem to find the specs on how much turbo clock it can hold when all 4 cores are loaded up.. But over on Passmark the 6700T is 11% faster than the 6700HQ so it must hold slightly more turbo, maybe 3.2-3.3 under load. Which is still an amazing CPU since people have reported max temps of 45C on them. That CPU would still be my favorite to put in our MSI but we MAY be able to underclock/undervolt to match this TDP to Clockspeed.
It still takes 45 watts to run 3.1ghz full load on my 6700HQ so i'm not sure that it's 100% guaranteed to match all SKUs Intel offers but there's some special magic going on with the 6700T. The normal 6700 is literally a cut down K model so we can easily shave off the watts to match that 65watt CPU.
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@Joichiro a clevo system has no bearing on our sound levels. If fans used are the same the barebones will be just as quiet. Even at max fans the gt62vr is very quiet and not annoying. While I agree the system is going to run hotter and OC may be limited it won't affect the DBs of the system.Diversion likes this. -
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Does the GT62VR work fine with external G-Sync monitors?
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Today I got the MSI Barebone of the GT62. I ordered that with the 6700(non K), but they didn't have it in stock so I got the 6700k. Got it from a Swedish reseller.
First impression
Big, but quite light when you lift it. No MSI dragoon logo or anything, just plain black. Keyboard feels good, and a plus is that it doesn't have the spacebar "bug" like GS63VR had. When I have my tumb far right, spacebar will register an space.
It's much quiter than GS63VR for sure, have just tested 3d mark Fire strike with stock everthing, got around 14k Score. The temp was 88C CPU and GPU 80C. But have just started to tweaks the fans.
Did one more test with -150 mV undervolt, and CPU went down to around 76-77C. It's quite warm inside here, around 25-26 C. Will do some more tweaking with the fans, as I think I can get a good ratio between temps and noise. I have the MX-4 paste on CPU/GPU.
Not much bloatware. Got "Silent Option" program, like MSI Dragon Center, when you can set your fans how you like it. Some other programs for keyboard light and stuff.
Coming from GS63VR, this is bigger but damn much quiter. Don't have the high pitch sound either like GS63VR had.
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You can't really judge the CPU/GPU temps based off 3dmark Firestrike because the tests only run for about 30 seconds at a time with a break in between.. Need something like Unigen Heaven and let it run for 10+ minutes to see where the temps stabilize.
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@Diversion did small FPU test, all cores went to 4Ghz and stayed there. No throttling, did the test for 10 mins. CPU temps was 81-84C on all cores. Fan speed was not "Turbo boost", but was 3500 RPM. This is with -160 mV undervolt i Throttlestop.
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Fifflarn - can you put laptop on balanced power profile with screen around 40% and let us know how long battery last surfing net/listening to music or a movie?
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Just discovered today that this thread exists :O I've been looking everywhere for discussion on this laptop (I had no idea the Eurocom version was based off an MSI barebones). I purchased the Eurocom version with the 6600k. Even though both the 6700k and 6600k are rated at the same TDP, the 6600k often runs much cooler and draws less power. My dream scenario would be to have the CPU over 4.0 GHz with both GPU/CPU temps under 80C... but we'll see. I should be receiving it sometime next week if anyone is curious about comparing numbers. Cheers!
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Wonder if someone can change the thread title to include MSI 16L1(2) so people can easily find this thread?
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And so far, I am like 80% inclined to go the barebones route. I am in no hurry right now, so I am waiting a bit to see how the upgrade program will end up working for the GT80 before I get the 16L1.
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Question for you guys - Is it worth getting CLU for the GT62VR since I have heard that MSI QC is better than Clevos QC? If I do get it, will it be able to go 3 years without a repaste? If not, will MSI's stock paste go 3 years without a repaste? @hmscott
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The correct way: when you test, only check stress FPU.
If so, It will be better if you can provide a screenshot.
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Again, it's possible to re-paste to get lower temps, but unless you are in a temperate environment that puts the CPU / GPU into thermal throttling regularly such that it's making a definite negative performance effect, you shouldn't have a need to re-paste.
As a further finer point, even thermal throttling won't absolutely kill performance.
Quite often when digging deeper into a owner complaining that he was hitting thermal throttling, it turns out that looking at the detailed logging with hwinfo64 during hours of gaming it rarely hit the thermal throttling point.
Usually only when first starting to game - the Asus / MSI fan curve's prefer quiet operation over cooling and initially it's slow to respond to the heat and only kicks in the fans for added cooling when the high temps sustain during constant game play - hitting thermal throttling may kick it off as well.
Then the thermal throttling point isn't hit again unless he went idle and started up again, then it ramped up again and kept things cool.
So, if you look at the details from logging it may show that even if you hit thermal throttling, it's unimportant as it's a brief transient point.
All things to consider *before* pulling a laptop apart and re-pasting it.
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If you aren't bumping and shifting the device much over the years, and you do a good job to seal the paste against the air, it can last a long time.
I wouldn't want to get involved in re-pasting a laptop, it seems to need re-re-pasting at anywhere from 3 months - 8 months - 12 months.
If you don't move it around much I guess you would be able to get it to last years as well. But, that's a bit of luck and a lot of skills built up over time, after making lots of "learnings".
If you want to do re-pasting on a laptop, I would start out with desktop pasting, and practice on an older relatively cheap laptop - something that might actually need it, first.Last edited: Sep 22, 2016hfm and ThePerfectStorm like this. -
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Anyone has any idea when the GT62VR with 1070 releases? HIDevolution has not got a date, CUK just says "Coming Soon", so anyone has a clue when it's out?
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Okey, got a screen shot when I'm doing Stress FPU test in Aida64, this is with -160 mV i ThrottleStop. A bit high on temps but you can tweak the fans even more. Temps inside here is around 24-25.Attached Files:
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However, HIDevolution and Computer Upgrade King don't seem to have it in stock.
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Not even close.. My GT62VR with 6700hq gets to about 65C under that same test. But all things considered, the barebones model is doing a great job keeping the 6700K under control.hmscott likes this. -
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The only thing I don't really like with the laptop is the touch pad, kinda wonky on register my finger. Not a huge thing cause I use a mouse like all the time anyway.hmscott likes this. -
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