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It shouldn't. Since they are both 45 Watt parts with same voltage. Well then again since it is 200 mhz faster, it may run slightly hotter if Intel didn't improve the lid or interface, but if they may have made some efficiency changes to make it cooler. My guess is it will be the same.

 

Ok so I have this laptop for more than a month now.

Lets talk about BIOS updates and Nvidia 1070 driver.


Last time I checked, the updates were not stable. Should I update them?
I have stock BIOS and 373.06 (stock) for Nvidia. The 375.xx for Nvidia had major issues so I rolled back.

What are you guys suggesting?

 

Hey all, just got my GT62 and am running through the first battery of tests. Just wondering how my scores below look, none of the temps are with the turbo mode on. 6700HQ processor, from August. Wondering if those 10ish+ degrees is going to be a big problem down the line.

Does MSI recognize this as a problem? Will they replace the CPU?

Prime 95 1 Hour
Core Min Max Avg
0 70 79 75
1 63 70 67
2 65 74 70
3 61 67 65

Under FUR GPU test 15 Minutes
Core Min Max Avg
0 56 87 75
1 52 80 68
2 52 83 71
3 52 77 65

 

The temps look fine, if they (MSI RMA) don't see any stability issues after running tests they will return the same laptop back to you without changing anything inside.

 

hello guys i just got my gt62vr for 1 week now

my tamp more than everybody here

in prime 95 for 15 min my cpu get to 86

in furmark my gpu hit 85

without cooler boost

in idle cpu 47 and gpu 43

i am outside the us and i cant get it bk i buy it from amazon

what u advice me to do ?

thx

 

I think msi has global warranty. Did you try checking that out with msi support?

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totally fine.
Undervolt by ~140mv, use coolerboost and see that CPU temps never cross 70c.
When under load - it is recommended you use coolerboost.
When I game I always use coolerboost, otherwise temps go near the 80s or even beyond which is fine considering fans rotate at less than 3k RPM

 

unfortunately iam at kenya nw no msi here the nearest one will be at saudi arabia or united arab emirates

i will try that thx all for ur fast replay

 

Cooler boost is complete nonsense without headphones on your head.also if you share your space with somebody, then watch your SIX ... They will try to kill you or your GT.

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you can set your profile to auto and have the fans rotate at ~2.5k-3k RPM and they will be much quieter, however you will have to deal with ~80c temperature which is kinda high.. not too high, but high

most gamers do have headphones... Also, this laptop is one of the most quiet gaming laptops i've seen in it's tier

 

Can confirm that. They won't change the whole motherboard for a few Cees.
The maximum they will make for you is the thermal glue change. But don't expect the miracles.
The RMA usually takes 3 - 4 weeks.
Either accept these temps or return or get rid of this piece.
If you keep it and will be sufficiently brave then you can try to get the new heatsink from the free market plus some thick thermal compound and you will try to fix it on your own.

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Personally i do not use the DGC and letting the BIOS control the fans by the need. Also it is important to have the clean system because crap apps generate unnecessary load and load means heat, heat high temps.
Also don't be the FPS hunter... Keep the frame rate at 60.
Play with the undervolting..this and other threads describes how to do this hundred times.
If you are lazy, download some undervolted xtu profile from hwbot and try it, check temps etc.


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did exactly that.. witcher3 temps are stable ~70 (with coolerboost tho). completely fine, unless someone will come and tell me they are having 60c

 

No worries, nobody will come with 60s without additional non natural magic applied on.
You cannot cheat the physics.
Low quality level gaming is worthless...so this is not an option of course.

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Hey guys do you know of any reseller that have the option to install a Spanish layout of the keyboard for this model in the US?

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Have you tried contacting MSI USA customer service to see if you can purchase one?

 

What do you mean? I plan to buy it in the US and send it to my forwarder to get it shipped to my country internationally.

Why would I need to contact directly to MSI? Do they have a direct store or something like that?

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Because the models sold in US-region comes with US keyboard, and they may or may not have other regions' keyboard. You will have to contact them directly to find out the answer to your question.
They sell certain notebook parts through their tech support line.

Technical Support:
AIO & Notebook : 1-888-447-6564 Hours: Mon-Fri (5:00AM - 7:00PM PST)
VGA & Motherboard : 1-626-271-1004 Hours: Mon-Fri (9:00AM - 6:00PM PST)

Or you can email [email protected].

 

Or you can simply buy from the likes of PCComponentes, Coolmod and AppInformatica.

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@Phoenix http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...scussion-thread.794965/page-368#post-10439651 Almost all BGA chips need more Voltage than LGA chips!!
Dont expect better WITH KABY LAKE!!

 

Guys you are all nuts. I have owned the same exact laptops with a 6800HQ and 1070 from Gigabyte, Asus, Sager, and MSI. Well the gigabyte and Asus units ran at 99C Cpu and about 86 GPU, which they both claimed are fine. The Sager ran at about 88 CPU and 82 GPU, yet two of the 1070s died within 2 months. And so far the MSI runs at like 80CPU and 78GPU which is fantastic in a 15" chasis. All these units have a 2 year warranty and are built to run hotter, I wouldn't worry about your temps on an MSI for sure. The other units I wouldn't worry about it as you have 2 years and if it doesn't die by then, it probably won't. I still would think we are going to see A LOT of dead Asus and Gigabytes and Razors, because they value being 1/2 " thinner over proper cooling, but I guess we shall see.

 

Hi guys

Anyone using the latest BIOS update and can share the changes?
Are they stable? What are the changes? battery/temp? etc?

Thanks

 

Hi guys. I am from Poland, so sorry for my language. Sorry, if this is not correct place for my question. One month ago i bought msi gt62 with gtx 1070. This laptop is great machine, but I dont like the sound of fans. They are too noisy for me. I like to ask you, where can i buy fans for this laptop? I want to check, if the sound of working fans is the same or something is wrong with my fans. Any advices? There is a big problem with buying fans for this laptop in Poland.

 

Fans for laptops aren't as easy to find as fans for a desktop. If you can find a 3rd party company that makes them, possibly on Amazon, Ebay, or similar site, they probably would be about the same performance and volume as the original fans. If the fans are making any kind of grinding, buzzing, or other noises (other than from the normal fan speed), if something that just doesn't sound right, then you could see if just replacing them with other MSI fans might help for that.

 

Thx for answer.
Yes, my fans are making different noise than noise of normal speed fan. Its hard to discribe, but its so annoying. I dont need replacement of fans made by other companies. I cant find MSI fans. Should i ask on official site of MSI?

 

It would certainly be worth reaching out to their service department about it. Maybe make a quick youtube video of the sounds and share the link with them.

 

The problem is, that my recent laptop is my first MSI laptop. So i dont know exactly if this fans sound is normal for MSI and its noise just for me. I used Lenovo y700 and fans made much different sound. So i would like to buy new fans and put them into my laptop to check, if there is any difference. I hope so, because this noise is killing me, especially when i play games. When the fans speed is low (under 700 rpm) i dont here anything.

 

And that is to be expected somewhat. With the MSI you have a more powerful system than that Y700, so it does need to have bigger fans just to help cool the components. I still think it would be worth checking with MSI to see if they think there is an issue with the fans, or maybe post a video here so other GT72 owners could tell you if that is similar to their experience.

 

Thanks for the suggestion, so I have to check with MSI directly to know if they are shipping Spanish keyboards parts for any reseller or you are telling me that I should buy the laptop and then install the keyboard myself?

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So check those movies out. Make volume high, because my smartphone makes bad movies:



Its not about normal sound of fans. It can be loud. It doesnt disturb me. There is another sound/noise. I hope you will hear it or maybe i am wrong.

 

There's nothing wrong with 80s. My Blade runs 90s on the CPU and 80s GPU and I've been pounding it relentlessly for over 2.5 years with 1000s of gaming hours and it's still mint and performing great. 80s is well within spec.

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You can try using a notebook cooling system to drive more airflow to reduce the temperature, if the temperature can be lowered then the fan may be slower.
The best way is to have Svet at MSI forum to customize the EC firmware of your notebook to reduce the fan speed. He knows what parameter to use for best results.

 

O. K. I will read about it. And if I just want to buy a new fans for my Dominator Pro, any suggestions, where can i do it? I cant find anything on e-bay, amazon. Any other websites, shops?

 

You can use keywords such as "notebook cooler" to search on those sites.

 

Hi all,

Appreciate all the activity and info here. I am going a little crazy making a final decision on my purchase.

Last week I purchased the Asus GL502V-DS71 - I returned it immediately since there was significant light bleed (glow?). I wasn't much of a fan of the trackpad, or the keyboard either. Both felt like I was skating on ice, if that makes any sense. Otherwise I actually liked the looks, was nice and light, and didn't find that the monitor really obstructed the rear vents as much as photos would indicate.

I started the exchange process with Amazon, then stumbled upon a flash sale which saved me $600 on the MSI GT62VR Pro-087. This brought the price down $300 Canadian dollars less than the GL502VS-DS71. I pulled the trigger on this deal, now both the replacement Asus and the MSI are being shipped and I have the option to return either one of them.

After pouring over reviews and forums I have come up with reasons for keeping each:

MSI GT62VR 6RE-025CA Dominator Pro - Gsync 1070 16gb 256 SSD 1TB HDD
https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B01J7H9IKY/ref=pe_386430_126088100_TE_item

1) Display - No reports of light bleed and overall positive feedback
2) Better cooling due to a better build
3) Better keyboard and trackpad (I use a mouse anyway)




Asus GL502VS-DS71 - Gsync 1070 16gb 128 SSD 1TB HDD
https://www.amazon.ca/Asus-GL502VS-...e=UTF8&qid=1485118447&sr=8-2&keywords=gl502vs

1) Kaby Lake i7-7700HQ - upgrade over the Skylake i7-6700HQ
2) 120hz display upgrade over the MSI's 60hz
3) Thinner and lighter


I guess I want to know if the CPU and 120hz upgrades are really significant enough to make up for the keyboard and cooling concerns. Anything I haven't mentioned here, I am not really concerned about (ie. speakers, looks etc) I really just want the best gaming performance and nicest display. That is, IF the replacement doesn't have too much annoying yellow glow (major deal breaker).

Thanks in advance!

 

120Hz can be a major decision-making factor for many people as higher refresh rate has literally no tearing during gameplay. G-Sync itself can help with some rate of tearing but with 60Hz screen it is limited to some degree. So you got to assess which one is most annoying to you, light bleed or possible tearing during gaming, and other factors such as pricing, and specification. Finally, make that choice.

 

Thanks for the reply. I will keep that in mind, when the next unit comes in. Might be worth it to keep the Asus if the glow is reduced.

As far as the CPU goes, I keep reading about a 2-3% performance increase, but that doesn't really mean anything to me. Does the CPU improve cooling or provide any real noticeable difference to gameplay?

 

Kaby Lake is overclocked version of Skylake so the increase is minor and temp is about the same.

 

Well the Kaby Lake is 2-3% increase at same speed, but the Kaby runs at 2.8ghz instead of 2.6 ghz minimum and also turbos higher. So it is much faster than a 3% increase. Also the MSI with the Kaby and 1070, the 62VR 7RE Dominator Pro is top build and cooling, if you have the extra cash I would buy that one. Even it gets in the 80s C, but I guarantee you the thinner Asus will be in the 90s.

 

1- Keep in mind the 120Hz screen is TN, you're trading the absence of tearing and smooth gameplay over somewhat horrid viewing angles and color accuracy. The 60Hz however is an eye-candy IPS and color accurate panel.

2- I don't know about you, but I'd always worry about my machine's longevity, and cooling reflects that most. The ASUS is thin and light, making the cooling solution less effective due to the size of fans and the thickness of heatsinks. If I'm given choices, knowing the MSI cools the CPU and GPU better, I'd instantly pick that if I am to worry about its long run. If you're planning on buying a new machine a year or two later, then that's another story.

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If I had the option to getthe 24% off on a kaby lake MSI it would be a done deal. It was only offered for the Skylake on a timed deal on Amazon.

 

Is it really TN? Reports i've seen say it is IPS. If it is indeed TN then again I would be swayed to the MSI.

 

I'm 1000% sure it's TN. (No, I intentionally wrote 1000, it's no typo )

The reason is simply this: Panel manufacturers for laptops simply haven't yet reached the point and technology where they can easily make IPS level panels with high refresh rates and low response times. And for this you would mostly only see 17" IPS level panels with at most, a refresh rate of 75Hz (overclockable to 100, but reduces lifespan). Every existing 120Hz panel to this day is TN (However better than the crappy TN-60Hz seen in low end consumer models).

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How do you know OCing the display reduces its lifespan?

 

That would explain why I was so turned off by the display other than the light bleed (horrid yellow glow). In my limited experience ive always found that on top of the viewing angles (im always facing the laptop directly anyway), the colors seem to really pop.

I'm going with the MSI, I just hope I don't get a dud!

 

It's just a speculation of mine. The latest Bios updates for laptops sporting the 17" IPS panels will automatically OC your display to 75Hz by default. If 100Hz was a comfortable spot for everyday use, they'd have allowed it by default through another update. But they chose to keep it at 75Hz. It's like GPUs: Overclocking tends to stress the hardware and thus naturally reduce its lifespan. It should work the same with panels!

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Hey all, I decided to keep my GT62VR after I was discounted another 20% on it($1350 CAD all in). Are there any great replacement displays out there? I'm not really blown away by the standard IPS display this thing comes with. There's just not enough contrast for me, I can't seem to get the details in dark scenes to really POP out. Can't say I was happy when I googled the panel and found out it's only pushing 256k colours and not the "proper" 16.7 million

 

Got the MSI - Manufacture date: August 2016

I've read that there have been issues with the September batch, but what about the month before?

Can confirm that the this has a much higher quality feel that the GL502VS. Keyboard is much nicer, and the thickness is barely noticeable. It doesn't feel "thick" at all.

 

Kaby is actually 0-1% increase clock per clock, it's the same chip as Skylake.

LQ156D1JW04 is the screen you need

 

Thanks Mobius, any idea if I will need a replacement bezel or will I just have to find some double sided tape?