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Yeah it's working alright, but for how long? Everyone is talking about how quiet this laptop is supposed to be and I'm stuck with one that's louder idle than my previous sli one on full load? No thanks.

 

Oh, in that case send it back. Fan in my laptop produces irritating sound, especially on medium/low revolutions - on low it is noise like working hard drive. Not loud, but not pleasant. On medium this strange noise is a bit louder than air noise, on high revolutions air noise is louder. I don't think fan is touching anything inside, it's something like not perfectly clean bearing. However it's not the first time I see something like this, in my wife's laptop it was same since beginning and now it is working 4 years - still the same, nothing happened. In old fans sometimes noise like this is coming after long time of work - you can disassemble, clean it and it will be still the same.

I have perfect temperatures with my GT62VR and saw some examples of uneven heatsink, so I can live with noise like this, better than other problems. Anyway, as I said, this noise is not so loud as in your case. It's most irritating in idle - I feel like it was hard drive all the time searching for something.

Maybe your laptop is more like this then HDD.

 

What are your temps when under full load? Did you undervolt?
Im asking because on the previous page I posted that my cpu temps go as high as 90 without undervolting

 

Those temps don't seem right to me, the friend of mine who has one has never seen those temps. I would look to see if something is blocking any airflow, if not I would send it back to the vendor.

 

I didn't run any benchmarks because I don't care about unreal work parameters, however I did a test during play in Witcher 3 (Novigrad, sometimes CPU stress above 90%, always above 65%). Temperatures most of the time 70-74C on all cores, sometimes going down to 67, maximum reached temperature 77C (only for a second or less during >90% load for few seconds). All cores with similar temperatures, differences between cores 1,3 and 2, 4 usually not bigger than 2-4C. GPU always at 99% load, always 74C. Fans running on "auto", dragon center set to "sport". There was still a lot of spare cooling capability for CPU because GPU fan was a lot louder.

PS No undervolting.

Maybe later I will try with firestrike.

 

Yeah I just checked, nothing touching the fan, the fan itself is the source of the noise. I'll send it back so they can replace it. Sure, there are no problems with the temps, but I just can't stand the sound.

 

I have another question.

Does closing the lid of the laptop interfere with the cooling mechanism?
Thing is, I ran the firestrike benchmark on an external monitor (60hz if it matters) and the lid was closed.

Could that explain the high temperatures?

 

No, I always use external monitor.

 

It should have virtually no impact on temps. Running two monitors will increase load, but if your internal was off, it wouldn't have impacted anything greatly.

 

Im starting to think I received a defective laptop and it saddens me.

Im using MSI Afterburner to measure temperatures and I see spikes. I mean, not a stable continues line (such as the GPU), but a rather spiky triangular behavior of the GPU temps.

Anyone else experienced this issue?

 

The graph below shows my graph of a BF1 session.

 

Thank you very much for responding. Seems this behavior is similar to mine.
I was curious because on my ASUS 502VS the line on the GPU & CPU were continuous and not spikey.

In other event:
I just undervolted the CPU by 80mv. seems stable. temps dropped by ~3c. I'll undervolt to 100mv and stay there I think

Would you suggest undervolting the GPU as well ? How did you maintain 70c on the GPU?

 

I haven't changed any voltage settings, now I have the GT73VR so I'm able to set my 6820HK multiplayer to 41 and my GPU core/memory to +100/+150 and with a custom fan profile and my temps are what they are. This graph of a gaming session led me to tweak my CPU fan curve to try to keep it below 80 but I haven't had much luck.

Your temps seem way to high to me, are you at stock? What is your ambient temperature? Is there good airflow around the vents? Your temps seem high, If there is no logical reason it could mean a defect in the cooling system, you should have to under volt it to get temps that most other people with the same lpatop get.

 

Nvidia Driver - 373.06 (stock) because the 376.xx caused stuttering.. rolled back to this
BIOS - stock
CPU undervolting - 100mv
GPU - Stock
Dragon center: Sport mode, fans set to auto

Airflow is fine, I can feel the heat.

see attached picture from a short session of Overwatch with epic settings




Im using the gt62 ofc, 1070gtx with GSYNC on, 6700HQ

 

I'm not familiar with overwatch but those temps seem OK. I get the same temps in The Witcher 3 as I do in BF1. Try a round with the cooler boost on and see what happens. A custom fan profile could also help out.

 

Now after I undervolted im less concerned about the CPU temps.

82c for the GPU is a little higher than others.. people said ~75 at average under full load.
Also, my old asus 502vs had the same temps.

 

If you have to undervolt to get temps that are 5 degrees above those that everyone else has, I would be suspicious of a defect, if you are still within your return period then an exchange would be well within reason, down the road if your temps get out of control you will be forced to send it to MSI which, from I have read here, is a complete nightmare.

 

barakred - you have GTX 1070, that changes things - I have GTX 1060 and same cooler inside laptop. So my temperatures don't apply for your config.

 

Thanks for the responses guys.

I've scrolled back and read like 100pages so far looking for thermal results of people.
I saw multiple posts stated 70-80 is what they received when fans were set to auto.
Also, saw someone saying 65-75 when fans were set to turbo.

I would like more comments if possible from more people about their thermals.
Still have few more days before my refund window closes and I really dont want to deal with MSI

 

Just wanted to give an update after I replaced my GT62VR with a new one after getting freezes. My second one manufactured in October was a success, it ran flawless, even playing Gears of War 4 on 4K on my big screen for hours on end and all day for a VR demo we built for the Vive. I had done a clean install of Windows 10 to eliminate all the bloatware and only installed the necessary drivers. I've been working with it almost daily for over the past 2 weeks and it has been a good workhorse. It is a very pleasant experience working with this laptop, have to say I am very impressed as it beats my workstation.

On seeing the performance of my laptop, my company went to purchase another one. I started to just update Windows on the new one for a refresh and it went to a black screen. After that it was frozen and went to a black screen on reboot. Had to do a factory reset to get back into Windows but then after a few plays with the VR demo we did, it would black out the screen. Again this one was manufactured in September, the same as my first bad one. So we are sending that one back. I am thinking a bad batch of them got shipped out from the September manufacture, and this might be another one of them. Otherwise my current one from October is excellent.

So if your laptop was manufactured in September and having issues, that might be part of that batch that got shipped out. I am not sure about laptops manufactured after that, but so far my October built laptop is great.

 

Sounds like the same thing the other 2 laptops I had to deal with, you are right, don't mess with it further, returning it is the best option. BTW what was your manufacture date on the unit? Wondering if it matches the other 2 back in September.

 

How can I check which date was it manufactured?
I bought it at microcenter 10 days ago

 

Update regarding temperatures:

Just used the fan's cooler boost... fans reached 4k RPM
temps were at around ~75c for GPU maybe less
CPU was around 65 when playing overwatch which is more than ok (undervolted 100mv)

for comparison, I did another test with auto fans
temps ~82c GPU, fans were at 3200RPM
CPU was around 73

thoughts?

 

Look underneath the laptop near the serial number, it should have a manufacture date there.

 

My friend noticed the same thing, his older one made in September was a lemon, his second was made after and was 425 "production" numbers older, I'm not sure what a production number is but it goes along with what you have been saying.

Make a custom fan profile, I posted an image of mine back in this thread and there are others posted in the GT73 thread. If

 

So two time now i've had my laptop off for like 8 hours and when i clicked on the power button it got me to a black screen.
Clicking the power button to turn it off and rebooting it up again would fix the problem.

Is that the Blackscreen issue i've seen people post about?
I'm starting to get worried about this laptop i feel like it will be a lot of trouble in the long term ...

(Manufacttured in september)

 

I reported this rattling sound yet in the 1st half of this thread yet.it was in the service due to this issue and they only updated BIOS .LOL.nothing changed of course.
It seems so but fan part /bearing imperfection.
Planning to replace the fan on my own once this component will become available on ebay or my local eurocom tornado reseller.
Of course that i will order 2 fans to decrease the chance that they will face the same issue.
BTW, fan replacement is possible without radiator unmounting.

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I think for GTX 1070 it is good. In extreme conditions I had up to 78C on GPU with GTX 1060 (however probably slower fan speed). However 90C on CPU during Firestrike seems big (same as on review of this notebook) but maybe customization of fan speed for CPU will help.

 

That's what I expected.

Sorry for double posting.

 

Like DukeCLR wrote.return it.
85C is throttle limit. I would be nervous even with CPU temps at 80-83.

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Hi guys,
I'm planning on ordering the GT62VR with GTX1070 today. I was comparing it with the GS43vr because of the portability and battery life. Am i making a mistake going for the GT62VR? Are there any problems that I should look forward to fixing right out of the box? Any help would be very very appreciated. TIA

 

There shouldn't be any "problems" out of the box. If you are comfortable doing a fresh install then you can do that. I bought a GT73 and did a fresh install and I reinstalled most of the apps so I think it was a bit of a waste of time, others like to do it. I would let windows fully update then run some benchmarks to be sure that the thermals are normal. I would then use it as much as possible to flush any issues so you can return it to the vendor for a refund or a replacement in the event you get a lemon. Having to got through MSI warranty/RMA process seems to be a lengthy and agonizing process. Along those lines, be sure to pick a good vendor.

A good friend had to return a lemon to Newegg and he decided to order from Amazon and got a good machine, he loves his GT62 and is getting amazing performance. Good luck and let us know how your like you new machine.

 

Run CPU stress test and check if there are no big temperature differences between cores. If laptop comes without operating system then in BIOS UEFI must be set to "UEFI", not "Legacy" (before installation of Win10). Otherwise G-Sync will not work.

 

And here I was planning on getting it from newegg, they do have a good deal.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834154348&ignorebbr=1

Thing is i'm not from USA, so returning it would be a bit difficult.. And if I get the gs43vr, I would get it from HIDevolution, under their global warranty. What do you suggest?

 

To be honest I can't see playing on a screen smaller then 17 inches so my input on the the screen sizes would be biased. I would focus on the machine you want then find a vendor.

Newegg has let me down recently but in the end you should still be able to return a lemon. I think the lemon my friend received was a previously open ed machine. You can roll the dice with them or try one of the vendors here that would do a check of the laptop before shipping

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The process should more or less be the same for returning something internationally, only that you are paying a lot more in shipping & handling to return it.

Getting something from a custom builder will give you a little added quality control, as @DukeCLR mentioned.

 

Thanks a bunch for your reply guys.
First off, after buying a laptop with almost $1550 ~ $1600 i don't thing i'll be okay spending about $300-$400 more for shipping for an RMA or a return....


I think I should let it go and buy a GT62VR with a 1060 or a GS43VR from HIDevolution. They have been very helpful this far, answering all my questions, plus they have a global warranty.


Which one do you guys think I should go for?
Say the word and I'll pull the trigger

 

You mean that the Dell rep that told me that temperatures up to 100C are perfectly fine and normal was wrong? Say it isn't so.


My September built GT62 appears to be running great so far. I have a little bit of backlight bleeding but I only notice it on a black screen and it is less that what my AW15R3 had.

 

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...54292&cm_re=msi_gt62vr-_-34-154-292-_-Product

GTX 1060 GT62, this is a very fair price especially considering no taxes.

https://www.amazon.com/MSI-Computer...TF8&qid=1481133094&sr=8-6&keywords=msi+gt62vr

Same price but will be taxed, but has very very good return policy (no fees) and excellent customer service if you find anything wrong with it. I've literally had Amazon just offer me a partial refund on a laptop that had a slight cosmetic defect.

I found the GTX 1060 GT62 to be an amazing little laptop. The 6700hq should not bottleneck it at all, and with the CURRENT 60hz limitation on this laptop you won't be missing the extra performance just yet. The card is MXM and could be swapped later if you desire but would come at a steep cost. Regardless the laptop is a good little machine and runs extremely cool.

 

100c is fine because *in lab conditions* the GPU will not melt and can keep working.
The things he didnt tell you (or he did not know):
1. at 85c the GPU throttle to stop temp increase. this means the laptop will start freezing every now & then, making it unusable untill temps drop low again.
2. above 80c, the life span of the GPU&CPU are decreased
3. generally, heat can damage other parts of the laptop. if the GPU&CPU "survives" the 100c, it doesnt mean other parts can handle the heat.

One more thing. 100c is the top limit for GPUs... above this, a BSOD will appear and you will probably smell some smoke (happened on my old desktop)

 

Hi my GT62VR arrived 5 days ago, 6700HQ when I did P95 stress test the cpu core temp are
Core 0 =67
Core 1 =60
Core 2 =65
Core 3 =56
undervolted -165mv via XTU
I bought it on amazon should I return it? when playing games/idle the CPU temperature are within 5c difference with occasional core 0 spike
for 1 second
but when doing stress test (P95 and XTU)
core 0 and core 3 have avg 10c difference

 

When it's a new laptop, background processes also run randomly all the time, it's part of the updating and indexing - so Core 0 will always be skewed higher as other single threaded processes will schedule there.

Also at stock settings, non-OC, the CPU core multipliers skewed higher on the first cores, lower on the others.

TLDR, you aren't getting a true balanced load at the same multipliers on all 4 cores, so your core temps aren't going to match.

If your P95 temps MAX are that low, in the 60's, there are no thermal problems worth chasing

 

Thank you,
I was worried because quite a few people were reporting thermal issues and saying it should be
within 5c difference for stress test. Was not aware of the OC setting.

 

Intel advertises the Turbo "up to" speed, but that is only for Core 0, not all 4 cores. The Core 1 is a little less, and Core 2/3 even less multiplier, so the temps are skewed higher for higher core multiplier.

Your temps look great for Max temps on P95.

If you have a 6700HQ you can't OC - affect the core multipliers, but you can undervolt the cores and cache, which can reduce temps further.

If you have a 6820HQ you can do both, OC and undervolt, so you can get a more true core differential reading by setting all 4 cores to a 40x multiplier, and then do the P95 test with all 4 cores running the same speed.

Have fun

 

Hi
I undervolted by 100mv and im getting similar temps. Maybe higher a little.

How is the gpu temp under load?

 

I think he is running at 2.8Ghz with p95 .
60s at this freq are not extraordinary.

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That's one way to do it, disable Turbo

 

If you don't undervolt, the GT62 runs p95 at under 2.8 stock. I need to undervolt to around .160 to get 3.1s. With OCCT, I get 3.1 with only a .145 undervolt.

 

its about 75+-5 ish for OW/Bioshock Infinite everything on highest

with undervolt i get 3.1Ghz with that temperature

 

Are those temps with turbo cooling? Or with auto mode (in dragon center?)