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    The Official MSI GS73VR Owners' Lounge

    Discussion in 'MSI Reviews & Owners' Lounges' started by NHF, Aug 23, 2016.

  1. nyichiban

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    So I went and got the basic one with 16gb of ram and decided to upgrade the internals. This is what I found:

    Screws: There are a total of 5 kinds of screws.

    On the case: 3 sets, I'll call them long medium and short since I didn't actually measure them but there should be 2 medium and 2 short and the rest are the long screws.

    Inside: The MB screws are all the same so pretty straight forward there. The other types are the screws holding down the ssd and the wifi card.

    Upgrading: Well I can tell you that the memory was not compatible with the Kingston Hyper X I got from newegg so don't get those. I ended up just forking over the extra $100 for the 32gb ram version from newegg as it was cheaper than buy the 1800 version then paying 140 for the 32gb kit.

    SSD and HDD: I opted for the samsung 950 PRO 500gb since it fit my budget. I saw the plextor 1tb but at $700 it was way too much. The internal HDD... switch that out. If you have a 7200 rmp you will see a difference but for me I had an old 840 EVO 1TB so I put that in there and now this machine is fast!

    Gaming: Pretty smooth in overwatch and playing on high settings I get no issue going past 140FPS. the KB is a treat to play on as the depth is great. Better than the p35X from gigabyte and cooler performance than the 980m in the gigabyte. The FPS is slightly better on the MSI but I think it has to do with the overall comfort of the screen, kb and heat. Also quiet compared to the p35x.

    My issue is I did a clean install and wanted to restore it to factory using the ISO files I created. Unfortunately I will probably have to burn them on an external as I didn't opt for the USB stick. Wonder if anyone knows a way to turn the ISO to USB. Thanks in advance!
     
  2. Derek712

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    What ram did you buy? I put 32gb of Kingston hyper x 2400 in mine and it works fine.

    As for your system restore, if you have an external enclosure, you could always clone the recovery partition over. Or boot from the old drive and run the recovery burn software to make a USB
     
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    Hey guys I'm having a new issue and wondering if any of you have seen it before.

    I plugged into an external monitor via hdmi and extended the display. When this is the case full screen videos don't work. I only get a black screen but do get audio. Full screen video works on the internal display but if I drag the window over to the external monitor the video stops working in full screen.

    Additionally, when I try to game on the external monitor the games either refuse to open on the external monitor or they do but with really distorted colors.

    I'm wondering if this has something to do with optimus breaking with an external monitor? Any advice?

    The video issue seems to be related to html5 or something. I can watch things in VLC full screen fine.

    Thanks!
     
  4. Derek712

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    Have you tried setting the external monitor as your primary display?
     
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    I've tried it both ways with the internal monitor and external monitor as the primary display but it happens either way.

    One other weird wrinkle:
    When I have the external monitor connected, YouTube videos on the internal monitor display as a black screen UNLESS I view them in full screen at which point they magically become visible. Strange.
     
  6. boy

    boy Notebook Enthusiast

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    is it reasonable to request color collaboration image be saved to usb ($50) (non 4k)

    or is it a waste ?
     
  7. nyichiban

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    I had ordered the kingston hyper x from newegg 2400 speed as well. That caused my screen to have all sorts of issues and system freezes. Cheaper to get the 32gb version since it was 100 more and less hassle than trying to sell the 16gb that came with the laptop.
     
  8. Derek712

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    Weird that you had issues with your ram and I didn't. I wonder if you had a bad stick.
     
  9. Derek712

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    For that price, go on eBay and buy a spyder4pro. Then you can calibrate all the monitors you want.
     
  10. nyichiban

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    i have the same issue with external monitor and online videos goes black when in full screen!
    Any solution ?
    I have only the external monitor ON .
    i have all the latest updates .
     
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    For ISO to USB use rufus

    https://rufus.akeo.ie/
     
  14. boy

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    Finally I did a test of the HD with Crystal Disk Mark, the HD was not even responding, could not launch the test.
    The I did the command CHKDSK F/ , after the computer restarded to do it.

    ==> MIRACLE IT WORKS NOW !!!

    So CHKDSK :) ;)
     
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    ok i did some digging and noticed that when on battery, no matter what settings i select on power mode/gpu the dragon gaming center shows a significant drop on the GPU memory clock, specifically from 4000Mhz to 400Mhz, the GPU core clock still fluctuates but that happens under both plugged in and battery modes.

    it seems the BIOS has decided to scale back the GPU memory clock on battery no matter what, anyone have insight?
     
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  18. Derek712

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    GPUs always throttle on battery. I don't think laptop batteries could handle that high of s discharge rate anyways. At least not long term.
     
  19. Kevin@GenTechPC

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    AC adapter can provide 120-330W of power but battery is just 50W. Nobody wants to make a gaming laptop that can run on full performance on a battery.
     
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    Hey guys, im considering buying this laptop but i have a doubt about the webcam resolution: is it 720p or 1080p (like it's advertised)?
     
  21. Derek712

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    720p. Not a very good one either...
     
  22. minijaws

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    To fix the Fullscreen and stuttering issue on external displays disable the Intel GPU in device manager. You can reenable when you unplug the monitor. (Yes I know this is not a long term solution but it works) You will need to close chrome as it will just be a black screen.
     
  23. boy

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    Guys how is the 120 screen ?! is it a far cry from an ips panel ?
     
  24. Dark_

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    Looks great, better than the older TN panels but still has poor viewing angles from below.
     
  25. Defcon-5

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    Thanks guy i reinstalled steel series from msi website and all is back to normal again thanks :)

    What do people have their mouse settings set to? i use the mouse mainly with my left hand and find myself with my thumb on the bottom left corner a lot and end up accidentally dragging internet window tabs off the main window and misclicking things by tapping ie making desktop icons bigger or smaller.. Have people changed their sensitivities and gestures and turned options on or off to suit better?

    Also i was wondering why they didn't include the nice material on the bottom cover like they did with the GS63. I would like some of that material on the bottom of mine it seemed like a nice touch!
     
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  26. Derek712

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    You could always just buy some micro fiber or faux suede film on Amazon.
     
  27. hmscott

    hmscott Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Wow, 100% CPU usage "problem" solved - it's a performance feature of MSI Dragon Center to improve performance - it fools the system into thinking there is high usage when there isn't - see 04:00 forward to 4:57

    This feature is on other MSI laptops too... a simple toggle off.

    Not sure if this affects the GS73VR... but it's worth checking out.
     
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    Is it recommended to get rid of Dragon Center?

    What's an alternative to Dragon Center?

    Also is there a program that display Fps/temps etc while playing game like in the corner or something?
     
  30. Derek712

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    I uninstalled it and just use fraps and hwinfo. To get the overclock back, use afterburner but it's really minor so I usually just keep it stock.
     
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    I also Uninstalled everything and use Fraps for fpa display.
    I don't have any problems now....

    Sent from my Nexus 6P using Tapatalk
     
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    what cases/bags/sleeves have people bought for their gs73? i'm keen on getting something slim and protective to transport my laptop :)
    thanks
     
  34. Derek712

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    Yeah. I'm not sure if it was jus the first batch or if I just got really lucky on this one. The one I have now still has gape but nowhere near as bad as the one I had before. I can get a business card in a couple spots on the front but not all. The front edge is definitely the worst. I can get a piece of paper in some spots on the side but it's 10x better than before when I could slide a business card throughout the whole thing. The spot on my headphone jacks fit 2 business cards before and now it's pretty much touching. I'll try and get some pictures later but my DSLR is at home and I'm not there right now.

    CPU temps 50 at idle seem a little high to me but it depends on your ambient temp in the room. Mine is 38 right now and my room is 21.6(71F) while typing this. I have Dragon Center deleted though and that makes a slight difference. Their power plans do funny things and the fan profiles are also overridden by the software. Might be something to try.

    CPU coil whine on the i7-6700HQ is very typical. The extent is random and subjective but it's pretty much always there. As someone pointed out it might be worsened in these models because there are holes in the top.

    Your CPU stabilized at 2.6Ghz while I was able to stabilize a little higher on Prime95. It's still pretty normal and that's a test that is not realistic at all to what normal programs do. For almost every other program you use, you shouldn't be throttling below 3.1Ghz at all. Regardless, try removing Dragon Center and see if that helps improve it.

    The battery thing is normal for MSI. It's supposed to help lengthen the life of the battery. I go through laptops so quick though that I can't tell you if it makes a difference though.
     
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    I ran the Heaven benchmark (10min) and played BFH (15min) to monitor temps, I didn't monitor cpu clock but the cpu temps were fine.

    Unity
    unity_temps_gs73vr.PNG

    BFH
    bfh120_temps_gs73vr.PNG
     
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    How do I get into the bios without the UEFI setting box in advance options? I think I changed to legacy now that option is gone. Thanks in advance.
     
  38. Derek712

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    del at the boot screen
     
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    Just got my GS73-025. While I am a reasonably experienced computer type, I am a noob when it comes to MSI computers. With new computers, I like to nuke the OS and go with clean installs. My question is what I should do after that, before I start installing programs, if anything? For instance I saw someone earlier in the thread talk about installing the Steel Series drivers from the SS website. Any other suggestions? While this is not intended to be a desktop replacement, it will still be a general purpose computer used for productivity, a little video/photo manipulation and of course, some gaming. Right now I don't plan on any overclocking or replacing any of the stock hardware.

    Thanks for any suggestions!
     
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    http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/windows-10-tweaks-and-fixes-index-post-1.779394/

    I stumbled upon this thread and 1st thing I did was turn off those privacy stuff on windows 10 with O&O shut up. Afterwards install all my drivers/programs (except for dragon center, all drivers from MSI). There's a new version for killer suite you may want to check that out. And just any other stuff you want to put on there antivirus/malware wallpaper configurations etc. then once everything is where you want it to be you can create an image in case you ever need to revert back to it.
     
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    Thanks much for the response! However I must apologize, I wasn't very clear on what was I was asking. Mainly I was referring to any apps/drivers that are specific to MSI or this model that the folks here recommend I re-install after a clean OS install. Sounds like Steel Series drivers from the web site, Dragon Center, and Killer suite are recommended. After installing these, then I'll move on to the regular applications I want to install. Anything else? Thanks!
     
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    Fantastic! Thanks montobrah! Exactly the kind of info I was looking for. I think with this I am ready to pull the trigger on my system wipe/re-install.
     
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    How does Nahimic boost the sound without allowing the process to run at startup? It is after all a software enhancement. It needs to run. It didn't physically change out my speakers to be better did it?
     
  45. Derek712

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    it's a software enhancement. Not a very good one in my opinion. I uninstalled it and control everything manually
     
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    Hopefully these come through because I'm uploading them from my phone. These are a lot better than the unit I initially had from my review. They're still not perfect but a lot less sharp than before.

    I can barely fit a business card in the worst spot, which is the front. The speaker jacks are pretty flush now. The only other slightly bad spot is the cpu exhaust, which can fit a sheet of paper. I think I had similar pics of the bad one on my review to compare.
     
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    Does this laptop have a super charger USB port that outputs more power than normal? USB 3 is 0.9amp up from 0.5amp on USB 1 and 2. However I recall previous MSI laptops had a dedicated fast charging port that output 2amp. Does this laptop have one?
     
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    Has anyone tried to undervolt the GPU or CPU? Was it easy? Did it drop temperature appreciably without undermining performance?
     
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