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    The Official MSI GS73VR Owners' Lounge

    Discussion in 'MSI Reviews & Owners' Lounges' started by NHF, Aug 23, 2016.

  1. Kevin@GenTechPC

    Kevin@GenTechPC Company Representative

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    The fan has openings on both sides (top/bottom) and the tunnel, so the direction is 1 in and 2 out. Airflow comes into the chassis from the bottom side, and then exhausted to the sides and top.
     
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  2. nelso419

    nelso419 Notebook Enthusiast

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    I'm a new owner and I apologize if this has been discussed before but has anyone every taken the heat-pipes off to apply a better thermal compound or Liquid Metal?
     
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    AS5 is better, LM is the best but must apply with extreme caution and care.
     
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    nelso419 Notebook Enthusiast

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    If done right what kind of temp reduction could I hope for? I'd be applying directly to the die correct?
     
  5. Falkentyne

    Falkentyne Notebook Prophet

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    People have, but the problem is, the GS65 uses an inverted motherboard, meaning full disassembly is required for repasting. And Liquid metal requires PERFECT Preparation and balance testing of the heatsink. You can use LM on a GS65 but I would only do this with a pressure paper test first to make sure you have perfect pressure. You do not want to have to have the temps bad and then have to take apart the entire motherboard a second time.

    You can get a free sample of "Fuji Prescale Ultra Low" contact pressure paper if you ask nicely for it, or you can buy the Innovation Cooling contact pressure paper and use that.
    http://www.sensorprod.com/fuji-prescale.php


    Or buy the IC stuff if you don't want to request a free sample.
    Otherwise just stick to regular paste.
     
  6. nelso419

    nelso419 Notebook Enthusiast

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    Ah, I did not know that was a consideration. So if the contact isn't even then LM won't work and regular paste will have to do. What is a GS73's heatsink made of? And should I replace VRM pads while I'm in there?
     
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  8. Kevin@GenTechPC

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    You can replace the thermal compound for components but VRM aren't necessary because they usually use thermal pads.
     
  9. nelso419

    nelso419 Notebook Enthusiast

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    Yeah I was suprised to find it there. You can see it on the left for the mobo pic and on the right for the heat sink.
     
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  10. nelso419

    nelso419 Notebook Enthusiast

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    So I applied some grizzly kryonaut last night and I'm seeing no difference in temperatures. Maybe I applied it incorrectly but I'm wondering if that because I bought it from a 3rd party seller, that installed an NVMe and 32GB of RAM, that maybe they replaced the thermal compound while they were in there. That might explain why there was compound on some of the VRM's instead of pads.

    One thing with the Kryonaut was that it didn't seem to want to stick to the die. I want to scrape it on with the applicator thing and it wiped it clean. I tried very very light pressure when scraping and it seemed like it was almost repelling the paste. I ended up spreading a thick coating on top of the die rather than scraping a thin layer on.

    Any advice? I've never applied paste directly to a mirrored die before.
     
  11. Max7733

    Max7733 Notebook Enthusiast

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    Can anyone comment on built quality after having the msi GS73 stealth pro for a few years? display lid hinge problem, fan issues, keyboard, screen, overall functionality. I am trying to decide whether to buy it or not. Thanks!
     
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  12. Barische

    Barische Notebook Enthusiast

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    im thinking about replacing my gt72 with this..
     
  13. Michael Normandeau

    Michael Normandeau Newbie

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    Hi, I’m thinking about getting a GS73 in a couple weeks and have a couple questions about cpu temps and thermal paste.

    How hot does the cpu get at full load with the stock thermal paste, and how badly does it throttle?

    Does repasting with liquid metal make a significant difference?

    Also, I travel by air extensively for work, and plan on taking this laptop with me, usually in a roller briefcase. I’ve read some things cautioning using liquid metal if you move the machine around a lot. Would this be a problem?

    If liquid metal is both safe, and significantly improves performance, I’d probably buy the laptop through HIDEvolution or similar. As I live in Honk Kong, it’ll be when I’m next in the US for work. If LM is not suitable, I’ll just buy it locally to make any future warranty issue easier.

    Thanks.
     
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  14. Max7733

    Max7733 Notebook Enthusiast

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    These are all good questions and I hope people who owned it for a few years would provide feedback. I was also planning to buy it but then I heard it was very fragile and not suitable for traveling.
     
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    Grizzly Conductonaut + Fujipoly Extreme Thermal Pads upgrade will drop your temps by about 10-12C...definitely worth it.

    Regarding your concerns about the safety of liquid metal thermal interface material, yes applying anything metal conductive to a piece of electronic equipment has its risks, but we have a proprietary means of application to prevent leakage. Also, you can rest assured that any upgrades that we perform will be covered under warranty. Regarding its long term effects, we have been offering liquid metal thermal compound for over two years with no ill effects or reports of issues from users. On the contrary, we found liquid metal thermal material to be more effective than traditional thermal interface material over the long term.

    There is only one member I know of that consistently says the GE63 and GE73 series is not long lasting. I have no idea where he is getting that since we have thousands in the field for a couple of years now, with no such deterioration. It simply is not true. Also, I personally own the MSI GP63 Leopard 8RE-602, and I love it. I could have purchased any laptop we have, and I chose the GE63.
     
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  16. Michael Normandeau

    Michael Normandeau Newbie

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    Thanks Donald, I really appreciate the quick reply. Sounds like liquid metal is definitely the way to go, and won’t be a problem when traveling either.

    Cheers.
     
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    I have some questions about the thermal pads. What thickness are you using for the GS73 and where are they placed? I'm guessing you're using the Thermal Grizzly on the CPU and GPU and then the pads on RAM and VRM chips? I'm thinking about performing this mod but there are a bunch of different pads and thicknesses on Amazon. I would like to know which ones I would need.
     
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    Totally agree ! really like to know if this GS73VR allows you to installing windows 7 in BIOS set up ? cos i can not stand windows 10 (crap) ! cos most ASUS laptop won't let you change Bios set up for running legacy OS ? i really love this GS73VR n want to get one soon ,but worries the BIOS won't let me change to run Windows 7 ,which i love dearly ! if any one can help me out by confirms this GS73VR can run Windows7 ,i'll very grateful ! thanks so much Gentlemen !
     
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    chaccadao Notebook Enthusiast

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    Hi i'd to know if this MSI GS73VR can let you installing Windows 7 by set up BIOS ,cos most of the ASUS won't ! i really love this laptop ,and want to run Windows 7 on it ,cos i can not stand windows 10 ! if any one can confirms they've successfully installed Windows 7 on this GS73 ,i'll get one soon . thanks so much for any confirmation Gentlemen !
     
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    Disable SecureBoot, then enable CSM. See if you can install Win7 after.
     
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    Honestly I haven't had any issues with mine acting as a desktop replacement. But since I wanted more portability I went and got the GS63VR and gave the GS73 to my friend who still uses it as a desktop replacement in Thailand. No issues at all, still going strong. The only thing I feel that is the issues witht he GS73 and GS63 is the keyboard. Recently got the GS65 and the keyboard is really nice and the removal of the num pad was perfect. On the 17inch the num pad is fine.
     
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    Bit of a late reply.

    I've had my GS73VR since Oct/Nov16 ish, and I had Win7 running almost immediately following most of the generic advice you'll find around on this thread and other discussions about Win7 on newer hardware.

    The hardest single part for me was finding the right combo of drivers and stuff to slipstream into the Win7 installer USB stick.

    I think it was pretty much:

    - Bios setting (forgotten which they are, I can find out for anyone interested, but again, probably on this thread somewhere)

    - USB stick prep for Win7 install, with slipstreamed drivers (still have the loose files so can let you know which they are, but in the end I think I just dropped all the drivers for Win7/10 off the MSI website into the installer)

    - MSI drivers installed once in Win7

    - Only things that don't work hardware wise are the thunderbolt port iirc


    Totally solid experience here.

    Having Win7 was essential for me. I run Win7 and Win10 dual boot and they play nicely enough together.

    Win10 has got better since 2016, and it's at a point now where I'm 50:50 on dropping Win7 except on a backup kinda machine to do those tasks where I need 7.

    However, I still feel like I need to keep 10 on a tight leash wrt my firewall. I wouldn't let Win10 ever just have an open and free connection to the internet.
    Having to baby sit the OS is still a painful experience, if you want to guarantee up-time for professional work.
     
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    Hey, I like using the computer in sport mode for gaming/multimedia use. However i noticed that the cpu temps are usually in the upper 70s-80s even when idle. Is that something to worry about?
     
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    Ive also been experiencing overheating with mine.
    I've reapplied thermal paste after two years to no avail.
    My model is the GS73 7700hq/1050ti and i cant view the fan speed in bios or in dragon center. I can only set the fans to go faster.
    Speedfan wont even show current fan speed.

    Is this the same for everyone? Can we not see the current fan speed for this laptop?
     
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