The Official MSI GS73VR Owners' Lounge

Edit: Sorry, just realized this was the wrong thread.

 

Just wondering, does everyone have light bleeding on 4k version? because mine is pretty strong. I think Full HD screen is better choice for this model. This 4k with connected external monitor + msi true color is a pain with tons of bugs.

 

The 4k is an IPS so its never going to have the best blacks, not that its much help but I got the 1080p screen and can only see a slither of mild light bleed at the bottom edge of the screen.

If yours is bad id send it back, also instead of msi true colour, get a second hand monitor calibrator, I got an old spyder 3 pro, used it with argyll and displaycal (free 3rd party software) and I coulddnt be happier wwith the results. picked up the spyder for $35

 

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I just purchased and received a MSI GS73 Pro 025 6700hq version with the 120hz panel. Its been very good so far. Except I am having a small issue I cannot figure out why.

When I click the Battery Icon the computer locks up for about a second and the mouse and Screen lock up (But not audio it will keep playing) Its very weird. Anyone have any clue why this is happening?

 

Seems to be Optimus switching between dGPU and iGPU.

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Is that a battery saving technique? Is it worth disabling and running on the dedicated GPU only?

 

Running dGPU only will mostly eliminate stuttering.

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Update: I've been increasingly interested in Thunderbolt 3 connectivity ever since I've read this whitepaper from Intel:

https://thunderbolttechnology.net/s...ing and Routing Instructional White Paper.pdf

It would be absolutely superb if I could use TB3 between my desktop and this computer to quickly transfer assets from my game projects that have changed within seconds (instead of using version control for BLObs (binary large objects)). It looks like Thunderbolt Networking would do the trick for me, even if it capped out at 10gbps, which would be a great way of getting around having to buy an XFP transceiver to achieve high speed networking. Bonus points if it goes up to 40gbps, which is bi-di fibre speed over copper! The problem is that I have a Gigabyte GA-Z170X motherboard on my desktop, which seems to choke up when running Thunderbolt things. I've updated BIOS, updated drivers, retried enabling, disabling TB3, etc. to no avail. :/

The good news is that TB3 seems to be working flawlessly on this laptop from the get-go. I'm going to try lots of other things, and I'll do a little benchmark if I ever get it working, as well as update this post. If anyone has experience with weird motherboards being weird, let me know.

As far as other things go, I've been extraordinarily happy with this laptop. The battery life seems to consistently get me at the 4-5 hour mark, but keep in mind that I removed the HDD and have an NVMe drive only installed. As well, I've removed a bunch of software and undervolted aggressively. Frankly, I love that MSi have removed the "GAMING G SERIES" text from their lit logo on the back, as I always found it quite tacky (only simplified logo starting at the Kaby Lake models and above).

The cooling of the laptop is well-designed. The heat spreader works quite well (a little too well sometimes, see other post about undervolting, NVMe benchmark, etc.) but more importantly it's got lots of intakes/exhausts so that during normal work use and non-intensive applications, you can use this laptop in bed, on your lap, on its side, etc. without running the risk of suffocating it and killing it with an unintentional overheat.

I remember how addicted I was to the press about this laptop before I got it, so I'll keep posting my continuous impressions of the laptop, especially since I'm still super excited to have this one!

 

Is there a quick way to enable cooler boost, sort of like how clevo can enable full fan speed using Fn+1?

 

It's a bug in Windows 10. It's been fixed in beta versions and will be gone in about a month.

 

So i'v had this laptop for about 3 weeks now everything is pretty good not perfect. But I am having an issue with a HDD/Speaker crackle its very random.



Here is what I hear its just a little static crackle but its pretty loud if I had this in a public place someone could hear this sitting next to me.

Any clue what this is coming from? Its originating in the front left corner near the touch pad.

 

Have you updated the audio drivers?
Otherwise, it would seemed like a bad component on the PCB.

 

So I have not long taken delivery on my GS73VR-6RF... first impressions of the laptop is that I am very impressed with the build quality overall and also more importantly - no backlight bleeding from the TN panel which is reassuring and a bonus, the packaging and the way the laptop comes out the box from new is excellent as well (takes me back to when I first took delivery of my old GS70 back in 2014).

First initial power on and then setting up the laptop for the first time, I couldn't help but notice the instant difference of 120hz while in Windows, having came from 60hz displays over the years... WOW - just simply amazing.

Moving onto a couple of niggly things I noticed with the laptop while Windows / MSI apps are doing their thing to finish the setup process - the laptop got hot very quickly and the CPU temp according to the Dragon Centre was averaging around the 65c mark during high load which isn't that much of a high concern but both the CPU & GPU fans were constantly running between 2500-3000rpm. Even after the initial setup process and leaving the laptop at idle on the desktop with the cpu usage hovering around 2% - task manager reports that the CPU clock speed was continuously at full whack 3.1Ghz, which would again explain why the fans were at high speeds all the time and it wouldn't automatically down clock.

After playing around in the Dragon Centre and learning the ropes with it again, it appears that out of the box and by default - it has the performance profile set to "turbo" with the fan facility set to auto. This also reflects on Windows' own power options as set to High Performance. Changing Windows from High Performance to Balanced didn't really make a difference either but then, I decided to go back into the Dragon Centre and changed the performance profile to "ECO" - this automatically down clocked the CPU clock speed down to 1.2Ghz but then also limits it to 1.2Ghz no matter what I tried to do. Investigating and playing around further, I uninstalled Dragon Centre and installed the latest version from the MSI website. This time, I had a new extra option in the performance profile which was something along the lines of "Windows power plan", setting this instantly (bearing in mind that I've still got the Windows power plan set to Balanced) changed the overall clock speed altogether where the CPU would now idle at 0.9Ghz & the then ramp up to 3.1Ghz when under load... I also changed the fan profile in the Dragon Centre to "User" where I could manually set a fan profile myself so therefore I was able to keep all the fans off when both the CPU / GPU were under 50c.

From reading other peoples' experiences with Dragon Centre - am I just better off to get rid of Dragon Centre altogether and rely on Windows' own power management to control the CPU clock / thermals?

MSI's audio / Nahimic - I'm not a fan from past experience with this audio software at all, am I able to remove it and still use the Realtek audio manager?

On another note - even when idle with the fans off, I can still hear what appears to be the 2TB HDD spinning away, is it renown for being a loud drive? Also, is there any way to turn it off when not in use?

Many thanks - Liam.

 

Further update...

Last night I decided to completely do a fresh install of Windows from scratch, as well as backing up all the partitions on the SSD / HDD beforehand. My word, I wish I did this from the very start had I knew the niggly issues I was going to be faced with on MSI's own stock software configuration. Now it's even more lightening fast than before, and the only tools from MSI I have installed is the SSE, SCM & Nahimic. I originally downloaded the latest version of Dragon Center beforehand just in case I needed it as well but Windows' own power management seems to control the fans exactly how I want it to without any adjustments required & also spins up the fans exactly as required too, also it downclocks the CPU exactly how it should when idle and ramps it up when needed (This is when keeping the profile on Balanced) - so need for Dragon Center now thankfully.

I also got around to installing BF1 after installing all the other required drivers and I was absolutely blown away by the performance, especially the added benefit of having the 120hz screen too - straight away so much more noticeable and responsive. I also had HWMonitor running in the background and peak temps on the 6700HQ reached 88c on average, complete with all the fans on the laptop running at full whack as far as I could tell. I couldn't tell what the GPU peak temps were unfortunately as HWMonitor won't display them for some reason?

I've also noted that my model appears to suffer from the notorious micro stutter here and there too, particularly when trying to access the power options from the task bar where it will emit a 2 second delay from clicking on the icon & the mouse will also freeze. Further investigation will be carried out to eliminate this...

Future plans for my GS73VR - I'm planning on definitely replacing the stock HDD for a 500GB ish SSD without a doubt, and quite possibly the factory installed SSD too with a faster model - and finally add another 8GB stick of RAM (mine only came with 8GB originally).

I'm possibly looking into carrying out a repaste of the CPU/GPU to see if this helps with the temps, have many others had success when doing this? Attempting to undervolt the CPU will be on the cards most likely as well - seeing as others owners have reported success with doing this.

Liam.

 

This will be fixed in a Windows update in the next few weeks.

 

Thanks for the confirmation, I also read up about this on the NVidia forum that the fix has already been implemented and will be included. The latest Windows Insider Preview already has it implemented as well so I may give it a go next week on another fresh install.

How do people rate the factory installed 128GB SSD on these? I believe mine is a Toshiba one - some people claim that the 256GB models and above are fastest ones of the lot. I'm currently debating whether it would be worth replacing it for a Samsung SM951...

Liam.

 

You can fix it immediately by running Windows 8.1 or Windows 7.

Besides, Windows 10 "fixes" update will bring far more bugs than it fixes, and the "fixes" for those "fixes" will likely break something else, ad infinitum.

Or, haven't you figured that out yet?

The never completed OS, never completes to stability, it's always going to have a measure of irritating instability.

 

If only it was that simple... If I could downgrade to Windows 7 tomorrow I would, however sadly there is hardly any driver support for the likes of my laptop in particular and I would rather go back even further to XP than having to go back to 8.1 - probably the worst OS since Vista.

I agree, Windows 10 may have it's downsides when it comes to updates and bugs but it's by far the best OS since 7 in terms or performance & reliability. I've ran into hardly any problems at all with using it since first upgrading to 10 back in 2015 when I had my old GS70. I still remember the day I took delivery of my old GS70 back in 2014 and very nearly returned it because of how poor Windows 8 was on it, thankfully I was able to downgrade to 7 near enough immediately with 99% driver support before 10 came out.

Liam.

 

For the majority of people, Windows 10 is a much better OS. Opinions exist, you know.

 

Speaking of Windows, has anybody tried installing Linux yet?

 

I'm happy to report that I'm the proud new father of a GS73VR. I'm still shocked by how light it is. It's totally "one-handable", even from the front with the lid open. When I first set out to buy a larger laptop, I thought I would be carrying around a brick, but this thing is perfect!

 

Reality is more important than opinion. And the reality is, Windows 10 is an unstable buggy work in progress that will take years, if ever, to converge on stability.

If some people want to suffer needlessly with a constantly unstable OS that keeps breaking and getting in the way of productivity, they enjoy the constant change and breakage anew, then of course, let them be miserable on Windows 10.

It's nice to point out that everyone isn't required to run Windows 10, and that it's ok to change to a stable non-changing OS for peace and quiet, allowing time to enjoy the finer things of life.

The OS doesn't own you, you own the OS, you are allowed to take action to make it so.

 

You're right, Windows 10 out of the box can be very tricky and buggy, especially if the hardware is average.
However, here's the thing: If you're experienced enough with how the Windows OS works, many workarounds and tricks can be done to help make the OS more usable and less buggy. I've done exactly that since 2015: I manually update Win10 when new builds are out (Since I've permanently locked Defender and Cortana, Windows will enable them again if I update from their server), and I disable/lock processes that seem to clog the CPU, memory and disk. It's been flawless for me, but only after major tweaks.

 

OH NO!!! My NVMe drive is actually a SATA???



Can anyone confirm that the Kingston rbu-sns8152s3256gg5 256GB that came in the 7RF 232CA is in fact an NVMe drive?

 

It's a SATA3: http://m.ebay.com/itm/Kingston-RBU-...%3A0828b1a115b0a357195898cefff1ce0c%7Ciid%3A1


Some MSi laptop models have SATA3 SSDs as boot drives,while others have NVME SSDs (with 1500Mb/s Read and 500 Write). l


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Those lying rats. I specifically asked the clerk at the store to confirm with the sales rep that this computer came with an NVMe drive. According the the clerk, the MSI rep assured him it was NVMe... At this point, I get the impression MSI is committing false advertising.

 

It's unfortunate... Does the exact same model name you've purchased specify (in other online shops) that it DOES have an NVME drive? I honestly would never trust a rep unless I see it on paper and in the BIOS menu.

EDIT:
https://ca.msi.com/Laptop/GS73VR-7RF-232CA-Stealth-Pro.html#hero-specification&sku_no=3807

According to the official MSi page, the specs of your model (232CA) do not specify an NVME drive, but rather a plain 256GB M.2 SSD, which implies it's a SATA3. If it was NVME, they'd have mentioned it in capitals (marketing power)...


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None of them indicate NVMe. They only explicitly indicate when it's SATA. For example, the only other 1060 version available in Canada, the GS73VR-6RF 005CA:



I hear what you're saying, but I thought it was a safe assumption that they would be consistent and label all the SATA drives as such. That combined with the sales rep confirming that it's NVMe, I think it's only reasonable to believe you're getting an NVMe.

This has been a giant waste of my time...

 

Yes, here's an example:


and another:

and this one:



Considering MSI's vendors (or even their own sales reps for that matter) are confused, how is the average consumer supposed to know the difference.

 

I compiled a list of all the hard drive descriptions for each of the GS model computers:

• GS43VR 7RE-072CA = No Specs
• GS43VR 6RE-011CA = 256GB SSD (M.2 SATA)
• GS63VR 7RF-236CA = 128GB M.2 SSD +1TB (SATA) 5400rpm
• GS63VR 6RF-010CA = 512GB SSD (M.2 SATA) +1TB (SATA) 5400RPM
• GS63VR 7RF-446CA = 512GB M.2 SSD +1TB (SATA) 5400rpm
• GS63 7RE-008CA = 256GB M.2 SSD +1TB (SATA) 5400rpm
• GS63VR 6RF-008CA = 128GB SSD (M.2 SATA)+1TB (SATA) 5400RPM
• GS73VR 7RF-232CA = 256GB M.2 SSD +1TB (SATA) 5400rpm
• GS73VR 6RF-005CA = 128GB SSD (M.2 SATA)+1TB (SATA) 5400RPM
• GS73 7RE-003CA = 256GB M.2 SSD +1TB (SATA) 5400rpm
• GS72 6QE-203CA = 256GB SSD (NVMe M.2 SSD by PCIe Gen3 x4) +1TB (SATA) 7200rpm

So, am I to understand that in fact all of the GS models except for the GS72 6QE-203CA are M.2 SATA drives? If that's the case, why does EVERY overview contain this message:



Oh, I see, they put a little asterisk. It would have been easier for them to state: *This specification only applies to one model

This is HIGHLY deceptive marketing!! MSLie...

 

I have used this great notebook for some time now and I experience coil whine (?) when using wifi. One can hear it when pausing a YouTube video for example. The music stops but this peeps keeps going on. Anyone else noticing this? I wonder if changing the Killer NIC might help. I can also hear a light buzz (if you put your ear very close) pressing and holding any key on the keyboard. Im using the newest drivers.

 

Hello everyone,
I was hoping to hear your thoughts on the speaker performances of the gs73vr please. I currently own the gs70 and the audio quality is really good with decent bass. The display of the gs70 is a bit of let down though. But with the release of the Gs73vr with its brilliant screen I was hoping to upgrade but have read online that the audio quality is quite poor. Strange it may seem that the performance of the speakers is inferior to the older models. But since it was an online review I really didn't want to believe them so thought of posting in the owners forum! Your thoughts?
Cheers

 

Coil whine sometimes is treated normal and this means the GPU was in use. However, if the coil whine is an annoyance to you, then try reducing GPU clock speed using Afterburner and see if it improves.

Speaker quality is better than GS70 and it even includes Hi-Fi output jacks.
http://www.guru3d.com/news-story/msi-adds-ess-sabre-hifi-audio-dac-for-gaming-notebooks.html

 

Hey Guys, this is my first post in this thread. I bought the GT73VR last week and I am in love. My question is in regards to overclocking in the dragon center, is it important to raise the fan speed if i raise the CPU from 40 to 41 on all four cores?

Im basing my question off this video tutorial



i'd like to avoid raising the fan speeds because they get super loud by using his recommendations even when in sport mode

 

You will have to undervolt the CPU.

 

Hi. I just bought this laptop. I like everything about it except the speakers. Is there a way to make them sound better? I read about uninstalling the nahimic software, but can I do anything else?

 

1. New Proud Owner of the 4K variant of this kick ass machine! Of course it's not perfect, but no machine ever will be. I looked and looked and for my graphic, video, and photo needs on the go, this one tops them all!

2. Did you guys read this ******** review by this dumbass: http://www.pcmag.com/review/352425/msi-gs73vr-7rf-stealth-pro#disqus_thread

Be sure to write him a comment if you disagree.

 

I'm thinking of getting a gs73vr but have a few questions. There's a deal for it on newegg for 1449 plus you get the backpack bundle and a 200 newegg gift card. Then I was looking at other venues and saw the custom builders xiticpc and hidevolution offering good options like repasting and ssd upgrades which I don't want to do myself. Some also over a 250 mail in rebate which I don't know the details of too much. What would you recommend, with what options (ic diamond? Liquid Ultra?), and from which seller or builder? I don't mind paying more if I can get a significantly cooler and quieter laptop compared to stock.

 

I just got mine and was installing the Creators update... It's definitely the Killer card. While downloading the update and a few steam games, the whine started, stopped when no network traffic was happening.
I'm tempted to switch it out for an Intel card, but I think I can live with it.

My keyboard keys make no noise, but occasionally I'll hear whine when scrolling with the touchpad. It's much softer than the wifi whine though.

 

I read in a different Forum that getting this installed highly improves read and write speeds if you have the Samsung NVME SSD.

http://www.samsung.com/semiconductor/minisite/ssd/download/tools.html

These are my stats on the SSD with the drivers that was installed from start.

http://imgur.com/a/izo9N

My computer is 7RF-215NE

 

There is a $250 rebate for one of the gs73vr models at xoticpc. They need the upc and serial barcode. There is a sticker with it on the outer brown shipping box that is partially torn. There is also a sticker with it on the underside of the black msi laptop box itself. Can I just peel off the sticker instead? I don't want to deface the box and the cardboard is pretty thick.

 

You better ask Xotic about that.

 

anyone use their GT73vr in a clamshell mode? I have a nice screen it would be nice to stow the laptop where it can't cook my hands

 

Can anyone share their calibrated icm profile for the 120hz TN panel? I am currently using the icm file from notebookcheck's review.

 

I can't force 60hz on the laptop display. No matter what I put in the custom resolution settings in the intel hd graphics settings menu, it keeps on saying the custom resolution exceeds the bandwidth. I need 60hz because some games are wonky and will only play in a window and the 120hz seems to be the issue.

 

You can't set custom resolutions easily on the iGPU.
Please
1) Set it to the dGPU
2) use ToastyX Custom Resolution Utility to add a 60hz resolution

This will fix your 60hz games.
I know about this problem. Dark Souls 1 will crash. Dark Souls 2 and Marvel vs Capcom will play in a window.
Adding 60hz manually will fix this.

Do NOT use the NVCP to add 60hz. This may cause issues.

 

New Firmware for Samsung 960 PRO/EVO

 

Hey,
I know I may sound dumb and I am new to this. I do plan on getting the MSI GS73VR 225 from Microsoft store. They gave me the description that it was a 120 hz and I went to check online, but I cant seem to find the 120 hz screen description. It says "17.3 in Full HD IPS LED (1920 x 1080)". Please correct me if I am wrong, but it appears to be the same as the description on MSI website. Im pretty sure it is the same screen, same as every MSI models. It just that the wording is extremely confusing. Is it the same as what MSI is marketing as this
17.3" FHD, Anti-Glare Wide View Angle 120Hz 5ms 94%NTSC

 

It's tn, not ips. It's a wide viewing angle tn panel though.

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