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FYI. ThrottleStop don't contain any bloat running in the background. Hence it will use less clock cycles than XTU.Last edited: May 17, 2018Ashtrix, Donald@Paladin44, raz8020 and 2 others like this. -
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My overall opinion of the GS65 was initially tainted by problems that could have easily been solved by MSI having a better default fan profile within the BIOS. They can learn from Razer (gasp) in that - Razer has been good at releasing new BIOS that have better/more aggressive fan profiles but that are tweaked so they are not "balls out" super fan blowing mode (like the "Cooler Boost" profile).
I imagine we will have a BIOS update soon to address this, because A LOT of people are going to buy a GS65 and start gaming on it with the default "Auto" fan profile and burn their fingers.Last edited: May 17, 2018Donald@Paladin44 and hmscott like this. -
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Btw, can the fans be cleaned without taking the motherboard out?
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XTU worked great setting a Profile of settings at boot, and then Windows 10 came along and keeps messing with system tools, shutdown / boot state, and XTU catches up just like everything else, so you can run into a situation where XTU won't set the Profile settings at boot.
All you need to do is go into XTU at next boot, select the Profile, Apply, and exit XTU and the systray app, and at next boot XTU should apply those settings automatically.
That's why that thread by @ThatOldGuy was created:
How to automatically under-volt in XTU without opening it
http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...-under-volt-in-xtu-without-opening-it.802143/
It sounds like your last saved Profile is being used already at startup in XTU, you can Save different Profiles for different running situations and select them Apply and they will be loaded at next boot.
If you crash, for whatever reason, or power off using the power button, basically stopping the normal shutdown, XTU will notice that and assume it's settings might have caused it and won't apply them at the next boot.
I disable Hibernation:
In a Windows CMD window, Start As Administrator:
powercfg /h off
which stops FastStartup and Hybrid Shutdown, and that takes away some of the problematic variation, but even so Windows 10 might cause XTU to not load at startup, so if you run into that try the boot scripts to load the settings.
With Hibernation off the 1x RAM sized cache file C:\hiberfil.sys is also deleted. I also set pagefile.sys to 0 size in Virtual memory when I have 8GB or more memory, to remove that file from the C drive too.
To disable the background monitoring of XTU I exit the systray app at boot and that stops the CPU usage from XTU monitoring. You could also stop the XTU service, but exiting the systray app is enough for me, not sure about Windows 10.Last edited: May 17, 2018raz8020, Donald@Paladin44 and sk3tch like this. -
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Finally had some time to re-try ARK: Survival Evolved - this is around 15 minutes of online gameplay using this fan profile and -0.155V undervolt via Intel XTU:
Pretty loud, but about what one would expect from a gaming laptop.Last edited: May 17, 2018raz8020, Jzyftw, Donald@Paladin44 and 2 others like this. -
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Can anyone provide same thermal data results for the model with 1060 graphic card ?
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I should have been received the GS 65 today, but they jumped the delivery to the next week... For now, thank you so much for sharing your "Ark Settings"
Now I'm pretty curious to see how my laptop will manage thermal behaviour without the LM threatment (not available at the moment from any of the italian MSI resellers, at least not for this GS 65).sk3tch likes this. -
Hey guys. Just found this helpful thread and signed up for some help. Very happy with my new msi gs65 8rf from hidevolution, my first gaming laptop after only being a console gamer. I have the thermal past upgrade with thermal pads and seems to be great. Due to my circumstances I'm trying to get maximum efficiency while keeping the unit as quiet as I can, seems undervolting the cpu and gpu is the key here. There seems to be a wealth of info online but some of it very contradictory. Can anyone post a couple of helpful links to help me with this. After full step by step beginner guides. Sorry if this has already come up.
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Got my GS65 yesterday from HID (with Thermal Grizzly Conductonaut on CPU + GPU, and Fujipoly pads). Still setting it up and installing software because god knows when I'll have time to really dedicate a good day to it, but as I'm paging through this thread, can anyone point me to a good, complete "baseline" for an XTU undervolt?
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Thanks, guys. Yeah, I had set the core voltage offset and cache voltage offset to -0.1v (same as -100mv), any other settings I should change (core voltage, proc core iccmax, turbo boost power max/short power max, etc)?
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Anyone thinking about putting a skin on their notebook yet? Decalrus.com is the only company I've found so far with them, anyone know of other companies? Check this one out lol.
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I'm laughing as I'm catching up in this thread. "It's too hot and bwurns my fwingers."
Honestly, I have no thermal upgrades from MSI ar all. Fans are set to auto. While it's sitting on my dining room table, I'm able to run some very high demand games at full settings without hiccups. Maybe that I'm getting close to my thirtys that my eyes are getting slower and these youngins can spot the hiccups? Maybe that's why I get owned in online gameplay (I'm getting better). But this is a tiny laptop, it far exceeds my expectations (like deadpool 2). If you wanted better performance, maybe a desktop is for you, or maybe an egpu. But this thing flies and it's my very first gaming PC.BourbonAndIce, hmscott and Assault like this. -
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I'm downloading Vermintide 2 to check those temps next, the games hard af on cooling systems.hmscott likes this. -
LOL 140% speed?
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I see some shop in Germany sell it without OS. This would be the best for me because I want to install italian or english version of Windows 10.
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@Phoenix I'd like your tweaks and I think I did everything needed. Team Viewer installed. Windows updated. Computer name changed. Forum sig changed.
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Running Vermintide 2, here's temps stock paste w/ undervolt and custom fan profile. Is this acceptable? :l
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That’s way hotter than what I got. In firestrike, with a score of 13230 and an underfoot ( core and cache) of -.140 MV, my cpu caps at 83C and gpu caps at 76C, using a combination of the fan profile assault is using and some tips for ThrottleStop a guy in the thread entioned earlier. I’d recommend lowering the 6 Core turbo multiplier from 36 to 34, makes a big difference
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dont run cooler booster, its impractical. instead, have fans ramp up earlier. try 30,50,100,120,130,140. that should ramp up fast. The reason your hitting high temps at the start of the physics test is fan hysteresis. the fan hasn't caught up to the CPU, so you have to be preemptive.
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I was thinking I’d like to get a hard sleeve that I can quickly put it in and pull it out of while transporting everyday for work. I work in clients’ homes so the laptop would get moved constantly, backpack unceremoniously dropped in my passenger seat throughout the day.
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And temp will increase as well if you add in the second M.2 NVMe drive.
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The facts are:
- "Auto" fan profile is not sufficient from out of the box, and people need to tune their fan profile.
- Throttling will occur without undervolting and that custom fan profile
- It is warm to the touch with WASD which is not optimal for long gaming sessions - and it does "burn"
Through the past few pages I've shown my process of solving the above problems. What have you done but just talk up the laptop as-is so the next chump is going to run into issues without realizing it?
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Someone just posted this on reddit, good overview of the problem with GS65 out of the box and ways to fix it (without requiring re-pasting):
https://www.reddit.com/r/MSILaptops/comments/8kinhj/msi_gs65_hot_games_cool_temps_and_you_crosspost/hmscott, clubnp, Wackistan and 1 other person like this.
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