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@Le Quan @sush33king
Should i select system stability check in aida 64 extreme and let it run for 20-25 minutes?
Should there be any type of throttling while in stability tests?(i'm having pl1,pl2 and edp other at this system stability check)
In Cinebench full test i did 4 times no throttling and when i did only normal multi threaded test it did go normally for about 3 times back to back and at the 4th time there was pl1,2 and edp other.
I did asus realbench's benchmark 3 times with each individual units, each did go well except the opencl benchmark, at the time of its end of the first run and going into the 2nd loop the computer froze.

Only for Cinebench and asus realbench :The temps were all under or equal 79°C and when it throttled in realbench the cpu clocks were 3.56- 3.7Ghz at all cores
Processor touched 4.08ghz once and 4.05 many times while in Cinebench.

For aida stability test : maximum temperature as of now is 86°C
And throttling pl1(in red) pl2(in yellow) and edp other in red.
In aida stability test the cpu throttles to 3.26ghz at all cores

This was all done using cooler master and bios is still locked,
Pl is still locked

My offsets are
In fivr:

• turbo rate limits all at 41 for 6 cores active too.
• Cpu core: -0.2178
• Igpu: -0.1348
• Cache: -0.2178
• Sys agent: -0.1348
• Analog i/o: - 0.1006

In TPL

• Package power long at 54
• Package power short at 70
• Speed shift min 8 max 41
• Turbo time limit and pp0 time limit at both 28 it can be increased to 32s too i guess

In the main screen
Speed shift epp at 0
C1E and bd prochot are selected


Ambient temps would be 32°C in my university's dorms and about 24-29° in air conditioned buildings.

So after all this what should i do?

Btw




After 18 minutes in aida this happened.it was probably stressing the local disks at that time

 

I have no clue as to what and how to solve all this now.

 

I am not sure, but it looks like its holding up pretty well... just increase the core and cache voltage and check if it happens again. I think maybe you undervolted a little too much.

Just increase it by 10 mv... i think that should do it.... -0.2178 is really low. Thats the reason your temps are good. Hell, just make it -0.2 and redo the test that takes the shortest time and failed, see if the voltage increase sorts that out. If that fixes the problem, you can be certain the offset is too high.

Btw, I think your temps are excellent, you can afford to give the cpu and gpu some voltage to be more stable and not crash.

 

That stress test is unrealistic scenario, you never have such massive load on both CPU and GPU like that during any usage. The test just to make sure later down the line there won't be sudden system crashes with extended load in case temps are pushing high. Hence, systems should throttle during the test, that's fine.

Your system is doing great. Just stress the CPU + GPU about 15-20mins, no need include local disk.

 

I test running 3 games at the same time in the background and run aida in the foreground with a secondary monitor. If it screws up.. i know its a voltage problem... increase the voltage... until its ok

 

That's a little bit too excessive I think. Usually I just leave Aida64 on while watching an movie or sonething.

 

@sush33king @Le Quan
This is live.
I'll run this for about an hour.
Now 44 minutes in.

 

Are you stressing the GPU at the same time? throttleStop aint showing GPU temp

edit: woah, almost an hour in and your temp max at 80s, that's sick

 

You can enable gpu temp in ThrottleStop via Options->NVidiaGPU

 

I ran for 53 minutes now stressing noth gpu and processor.

 

I just turn on Aida64 and it's already 95C for CPU after 5mins

 

same here... its the bios mod...

 

CPU throttles a bit but holds almost full turbo, GPU is at 80C

 

Stressing both gpu , cpu, fpu, cache, system memory now
Cpu max thread temp 86°c
Package 79-82°C
Value now 77-83°C on overall threads
Throttling at 3.3ghz
Gpu max 74°C.
25 minutes into the test
Will test for total 30 minutes.

I'm keeping that kind of thing after the bios mode.

 

Our temps difference may be due to how we place our laptops
I always place them on these styrofoam while gaming/benching.

 

test ran for 42 minutes and the result was the above one.
But here's one thing, there wasn't any problems during the test,
But it froze when i stopped the test.

 

So should i now do the bios mode or not?

 

Go for it... your laptop is running cool..... no worries.

 

@Gursimran82956
What do you plan to mod?

 

I propped up my laptop using a power bank during the test LOL

 

@Gursimran82956 My system sometimes freeze after a sudden stop of Aida64 benchmark too, @sush33king do you know why?

 

Like I said before, give it a shot, see what happens, you can revert back to default if you want.

Also, you can tinker with GPU voltage curve after done with CPU.

 

What are the things that can be done?
Well i wish to do something about pl1,2 and edp other.

 

Check event viewer for more info

 

Try changing the IMON Slope etc settings

 

Page 5 from the prophet Flankentyne

 

Did you both do anything other than what flankentyne said?

 

What's this?

 

Goto page 5 of this forum topic... thats the soln to the PL and EDP throttling issue.

"
What is IMON Scaling Support?

It changes the power draw the CPU reports it's using. The CPU can't measure how much power it's getting directly, that's done by a calculation sent from the VR. Useful for bypassing TDP limits."

 

I have used flankentyne's values
But now in my throttlestop the pkg power, max power draw is at max 39.5W
And the cb score is 1220-1230.
When i haven't touched bios it's max power draw was 65W.

 

Is it even working?
There's no throttling for the time being but there's still edp other in yellow coming up in limits.
Cpu clocks as shown is about 3.80-4.05ghz constantly

 

39.5W means 39.5+31=70.5W, since you set the offset to be 31W.

My score went from 1220s to peak 1272, cuz no more power throttle. Not sure about your case though.

 

EDP in red means current limit, I get the yellow EDP too, not sure what that means.

 

Wow... max power draw at 65 was pretty good, mine was 68, your power curve was good even before the bios changes, resulting in low temps and no throttle when cinebenching.

I guess you will see the real benefits of the bios change when doing bench loops. You should't see freq drops.

The main objective is your frequency should not drop.. meaning sustained performance with high load.

Example when Le Quan was stress testing with AIDA, his freq was sustained at max freq, even when temps were high. This is not possible without the BIOS change.

Not sure about the yellow edp, i used used to have them too, but its not there after the BIOS config change. It didn't drop my freqs btw.

"And the cb score is 1220-1230" - make sure theres no background apps messing with your optimus.

 

@Gursimran82956

Any updates?

 

Hey guys, Warframe keeps crashing, but windows still running fine... any insights?

 

Fixed it with offset increase.... dammit!

 

Some games might crash cuz of overclocked GPU, even though the GPU itself is fine during 1-hour conbined stress test.

 

my gpu is at dragon centers comfort level... maxing out at 15xxmhz... in my case raising the cpu and cache volts sorted out the issue.... b4 this.. not 5 mins into the game and it crashes..., stubborn me tried like 5 to 6 times and cant get past 5 mins... haiz... can run all the crazy conditions and it was stable... then one game is all it takes... not multiple games and and some crazy benching etc.... in a nutshell... experience teaches us better...

 

Speaking of dragon center, i hate how the keyboard backlight is red at start up and only gets proper setting after the software is loaded. And It's the same when using Steelseries Engine software.

 

@sush33king Also I did the Aida64 again yesterday. The system crashes everytime when I stop the stability test. It was stable during the whole 30mins, but if I exit even after 10 mins in of the test, system crashes. I think it might be because of the sudden drop in power to the CPU, will test again at weekend.

Any idea about this?

 

I just couldn't do anything yesterday(slept too little ≈ 2 hrs in total of 24 hrs).
I'll do it today.
Btw is there any way to force the processor to run at it's max ≈4.1 ghz ?
Rather than some random spikes in cinebench which forces it to go upwards of 4ghz?

 

it cant run all cores at 4.1, theres some design limitations... you gotta read it up...

 

Have you tried running AIDA without any undervolting? My AIDA has expired.

 

you can see the turbo limits in this pic. 1-2 cores = 4.1, 3-4 cores = 4.0 and 5-6 = 3.9

 

I have changed them to 41 in throttlestop as well as bios.

 

I had a lucky run at cb and got 1254 but forgot at which offsets.

 

Does it stay at 41?

 

Nope it's just that we have just changed
its maximum limit, which can be reached.
Somethimes all the cores work at above of 4ghz in Cinebench.
But it is still somewhat rare.