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Thanks for the reply. That's a good point about the PSU. I have to decide how much weight I'm willing to carry around. The performance numbers you are getting make the extra weight pretty tempting, but I may lean towards something with more battery life.

 

Has anyone here run a DPC latency test on this laptop using LatencyMon? Considering this laptop for music production with gaming as an added bonus. I recently picked up the HP Omen 15-dc0051nr instead because of the 1060 vs 1050ti of the MSI (comparing the models that Micro Center carries), but it has issues with DPC latency which is causing audio streaming to suffer.

I managed to fix one of the issues related to the touchpad driver, but there is still something related to ACPI that is causing latency spikes which makes audio drop out when the CPU isn't even being taxed. I still have a week to return it, but I'm afraid I might just run into the same thing with this laptop.

If anyone has run a test on the GP63 or would be willing to do so and post up a screenshot of the results it would be super helpful. Thanks in advance!

 

Every laptop has its sweet spot and i found mine.... no throttling....

not too low and not too high..... its like a lottery....

 

Ran it a few times... not sure what it means.....

 

Jackpot for you buddy! That's freaking impressive.

 

I almost gave up... took me so many tries... i lost count of the no of days i tried.... it was like an itch... i couldnt stop.... hahaha... it was worth it... woot woot

 

That looks pretty good! Thanks for doing it! Basically that tool gives a quick overview of any drivers and processes that have the potential to interrupt the audio stream causing clicks/pops/dropouts. Anything that takes longer than 1ms to execute is likely to cause a problem. Pretty annoying when you're trying to work on real-time audio. In your test it looks like a network driver causing some latency, but it's low enough to not be a problem.

Think I'm going to head down to Micro Center tomorrow and pick one up to compare with the Omen. Thanks again!

 

No Worries!

 

That's 15800 firestrike not 18600.. I was like no way until I clicked the link. (Images are showing broken image placeholder in tapatalk)

EDIT: nevermind, I stand corrected I see you were referencing the Graphics score not the overall score.

 

@Le Quan
Can your settings work for a 15.6 inch gp63 chassis with a bit of tinkering on my part after I've copied your settings?
If yes then can you please send the images of every screen of throttlestop and is there anything else you used except throttlestop?
Is your system stable(it doesn't crashes at battery less than 50% while gaming,etc ?)

 

As i was getting more than 90° at all cores at max and 70-82° on average while playing final fantasy xv using maximum performance mode in nvidia control centre(power management mode) and msi's dragon centre's cpu at turbo, fans at cooler master and at the battery icon in windows set to max performance.

 

Final fantasy xv's settings

 

The system only crashes when I tricked the BIOS to allow more power to the CPU and battery is <50% and charging and heavy gaming. If one of those condition isnt met, things will be fine.

Here the screenshots but all systems are different. If you want a base line to start with then -150 on both CPU and Cache is a good place to start.

p/s: As you can see I just reduce both CPU and cache until I got unstable, you can check you Sush33king's setting, he got 1260+CB, and probably more optimal setting than mine.

 

Anybody knows if GP63 can run on 2666mhz ram, clocking it accordingly and not downclocking it to 2400mhz?

Mine is currently running at 2400mhz, I was just wondering if I can do something to run it at 2666mhz...

 

How to check the actual ram speed @sush33king I only do this

 

I think on the dos prompt it states the ram ratings, which is the same as mine (2667mhz).

However, in CPUZ and HWInfo it shows the actual running clock speed, which is 2400mhz.

HWInfo


CPU-z

 

This pic explains it better. Am i seeing it wrong? My RAM rated speed is 2666mhz but its runs at 2400mhz. The MSI GP63 8RE spec sheet says that the ram is DDR-2400... I am confused.

 

This is a screenshot of another laptop whose ram is rated at 2666mhz and also running at 2666mhz.

I wonder if theres anything to configure in GP63 to enable its memory to run similar to this.

 

I'm not sure where to look at but here the HWinfo

 

Yours is running at 2666mhz...

 

@Le Quan

Do you happen to have the means to access the hidden settings in AptioV (BIOS)?

The unit I have only exposes the basic BIOS configuration settings.

 

left Alt + right Ctrl+ right Shift + F2, that's how I got to access to advanced settings in BIOS. Try it to see if it works for you.

 

sigh... it doesn't work....

 

Try to press them in order

 

Yaay... it works! Thanks buddy...

I clocked my ram to 2666.... the placebo effect is strong in this one....

 

Good job.
Just changing the DDR multiplier from 9 to 10 will set your RAM to run at the speed it's supposed to run at.

In Overclocking Performance Menu, there should be a DDR Voltage setting. Try setting this to 1.25v if you need extra stability. Maybe only the Titan 6 core series have this setting

 

Found it... Thanks!

 

@Falkentyne

I did the Core I/A changes you mentioned and overclocked my ram and this is where it got me... Thanks!!!

 

What were you at before? Good work.

 

It was around 1240 - 1260ish when it did not throttle. I could go three loops, then it would start throttling. When i was in dual monitor mode, it would throttle for sure.

The power draw used to surge to 68 watts when it was on turbo, and then slowly recede to 50 watts before finishing when it does not throttle.

Now its just rock solid, not going above 42 watts, with or without the dual monitor and Cinebench is consistently above 1260.

I am going to have a good sleep tonight... I have no regrets getting this laptop... I am a happy man.

Thanks!

8750h
16G ram
1060

 

@sush33king could you also tell all the mods you've done as i will tinker with my gp63 in this week so i've been gathering information about it.
My cinebench score, out of the box on factory laptop was 980 had 2-3 runs at that time.

Please send the screenshots of all the settings, mods you've applied.
It would be of great help to me and the future users.

 

Yeah, I ditto that.You should share your secret of 1270cb to the world man xD

 

@sush33king How's your temps while gaming/benching? If I stay in aircon room (ambient ~22C) then I can leave fan at auto but if I'm outside (~30C) then I need Cooler Boost to keep things under 80C. It's actually impressive to me how stock thermal paste in this laptop performs.

Btw I got consistent 1260+ running cb in loop now. Benching is like an itch you can't stop scratching.

 

Congrats!!! The leopard is out and running!

Regarding my temps,

Ambient temp = approx 27C:

My temps without cooler boost goes high 80Cs when benching. It maxes out at 93. When on cooler boost, it maxes out at 85C.

When gaming without cooler boost, it stays below 80. It is dependent on the games I play. Some games heats the processor more than others.

Boderlands Pre-Seq can run my temps (w/o cooler boost) up quite high on dual monitor mode, up to 85C at times - the fans are still on low gear at this stage.

I address this by configuring my fan curve using Dragon Center, and it works like a charm, staying below 80 without the fans taking off.

In a nutshell, i am happy with the thermal solution of this laptop, it requires less fan power to stay cool compared to Hero II and Scar II. I bought this laptop because of its cooling solution btw. It really sealed the deal.

 

I'll do that soon... just a few quick pointers.

1. Make sure you pay attention to the led on the power button when benching. On single monitor mode, it should turn blue midway and you should notice your power draw reducing as a result. If its not, you have a problem and your laptop is not working as it should.

2. Throttlestop undervolting (Its diff for every processor - just focus on core and cache offsets, ignore the rest)

3. Configuring firmware hidden settings (left Alt + right Ctrl+ right Shift + F2 in firmware - Thx Le Quan!)
-Core I/A (Explained by Prophet Falkentyne in page 5 of the current forum topic)
-Clocking RAM from 2400mhz to 2666mhz.

4. Never give up!

You should be able to gather all the required info through my conversations with the others within this forum topic.

 

@ Gursimran82956

I think there may be a glitch!

1. Note: When benchmarking, i'd set SST = 0
2. Windows and Drivers are up to date.
3. Sry, its not a CPUZ screenshot attached, its HWInfo

 

@Gursimran82956 Another point is that in case MSI Dragon Center is messing with your performance, use SteelSeries software for keyboard backlight settings and MSI Silent Option for fan control.

 

Its 1284 now . However, it runs hotter when benching... i am not sure whats happening. It could be the ambient temp.

 

Whatare the temps?

 

@Gursimran82956
This is the temp after a bench with cooler boost on. Take note of the max temps.
Ambient temp is about 27C.

 

Those temps seems about right with unlocked power limit, extended load and ~30C ambient. But If staying in air-con room things should be alright. @Gursimran82956 If your ambient is close to 30C you might opt not to unlock the PL, just to keep temps not to high.

 

@Gursimran82956

If you are addicted to speed and will do anything it takes to get that bench result, including selling your soul , you may use the Speed Shift parameters to manage the temps.

It really works wonders, bringing the temps down with no adverse effects on gaming quality. You can still game perfectly with a little drop in fps which you can definitively afford with a 1060.

These are some of the parameters that I know of:
0 : Max Performance (I don't normally use this, only for benchmarking)
80: This is the best for me. CPU freq is not locked at max ratings.
128: Max freq is capped at abt 3ghz (I use this for extended gaming sessions)
255: I use this when downloading stuff overnight, min power utilization and low ghz

 

Are you all on win 10 home single language?

 

btw how to reset the CMOS in gp63?
I'm preparing to do undervolt

 

I don't think there's a physical button to do such thing on laptop, just go to BIOS setting and load optimized default.
Yeah, I'm on Win10 Home.

 

Just did as told in unclewebb's guide and got 1163 at max score.
Ambient temperature may be of 31-33°C
Limit reasons are pl1, pl2, edp other
And thermal(when fans in auto. It doesn't throttle in thermals in cooler master setting)

 

Great. That's improvement right there. Now, you can try to lower the voltage a little more to avoid thermal throttling, stop if the system unstable during benchmarks. Or at least thermal throttling should not occur at a first few runs.

 

@Le Quan in both package and cache offsets or change something in the TPL
Is it okay to change turbo limits to 41 on all cores in fivr control?