Thanks for the reply. That's a good point about the PSU. I have to decide how much weight I'm willing to carry around. The performance numbers you are getting make the extra weight pretty tempting, but I may lean towards something with more battery life.
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Has anyone here run a DPC latency test on this laptop using LatencyMon? Considering this laptop for music production with gaming as an added bonus. I recently picked up the HP Omen 15-dc0051nr instead because of the 1060 vs 1050ti of the MSI (comparing the models that Micro Center carries), but it has issues with DPC latency which is causing audio streaming to suffer.
I managed to fix one of the issues related to the touchpad driver, but there is still something related to ACPI that is causing latency spikes which makes audio drop out when the CPU isn't even being taxed. I still have a week to return it, but I'm afraid I might just run into the same thing with this laptop.
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Every laptop has its sweet spot and i found mine.... no throttling....
not too low and not too high..... its like a lottery....
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Can your settings work for a 15.6 inch gp63 chassis with a bit of tinkering on my part after I've copied your settings?
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As i was getting more than 90° at all cores at max and 70-82° on average while playing final fantasy xv using maximum performance mode in nvidia control centre(power management mode) and msi's dragon centre's cpu at turbo, fans at cooler master and at the battery icon in windows set to max performance.
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Final fantasy xv's settings
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Here the screenshots but all systems are different. If you want a base line to start with then -150 on both CPU and Cache is a good place to start.
p/s: As you can see I just reduce both CPU and cache until I got unstable, you can check you Sush33king's setting, he got 1260+CB, and probably more optimal setting than mine.
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Anybody knows if GP63 can run on 2666mhz ram, clocking it accordingly and not downclocking it to 2400mhz?
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However, in CPUZ and HWInfo it shows the actual running clock speed, which is 2400mhz.
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This pic explains it better. Am i seeing it wrong? My RAM rated speed is 2666mhz but its runs at 2400mhz. The MSI GP63 8RE spec sheet says that the ram is DDR-2400... I am confused.
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This is a screenshot of another laptop whose ram is rated at 2666mhz and also running at 2666mhz.
I wonder if theres anything to configure in GP63 to enable its memory to run similar to this.
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Good job.
Just changing the DDR multiplier from 9 to 10 will set your RAM to run at the speed it's supposed to run at.
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I did the Core I/A changes you mentioned and overclocked my ram and this is where it got me... Thanks!!!
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The power draw used to surge to 68 watts when it was on turbo, and then slowly recede to 50 watts before finishing when it does not throttle.
Now its just rock solid, not going above 42 watts, with or without the dual monitor and Cinebench is consistently above 1260.
I am going to have a good sleep tonight... I have no regrets getting this laptop... I am a happy man.
Thanks!
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16G ram
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@sush33king could you also tell all the mods you've done as i will tinker with my gp63 in this week so i've been gathering information about it.
My cinebench score, out of the box on factory laptop was 980 had 2-3 runs at that time.
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@sush33king How's your temps while gaming/benching? If I stay in aircon room (ambient ~22C) then I can leave fan at auto but if I'm outside (~30C) then I need Cooler Boost to keep things under 80C. It's actually impressive to me how stock thermal paste in this laptop performs.
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Regarding my temps,
Ambient temp = approx 27C:
My temps without cooler boost goes high 80Cs when benching. It maxes out at 93. When on cooler boost, it maxes out at 85C.
When gaming without cooler boost, it stays below 80. It is dependent on the games I play. Some games heats the processor more than others.
Boderlands Pre-Seq can run my temps (w/o cooler boost) up quite high on dual monitor mode, up to 85C at times - the fans are still on low gear at this stage.
I address this by configuring my fan curve using Dragon Center, and it works like a charm, staying below 80 without the fans taking off.
In a nutshell, i am happy with the thermal solution of this laptop, it requires less fan power to stay cool compared to Hero II and Scar II. I bought this laptop because of its cooling solution btw. It really sealed the deal.Last edited: Jul 23, 2018raz8020 likes this. -
1. Make sure you pay attention to the led on the power button when benching. On single monitor mode, it should turn blue midway and you should notice your power draw reducing as a result. If its not, you have a problem and your laptop is not working as it should.
2. Throttlestop undervolting (Its diff for every processor - just focus on core and cache offsets, ignore the rest)
3. Configuring firmware hidden settings (left Alt + right Ctrl+ right Shift + F2 in firmware - Thx Le Quan!)
-Core I/A (Explained by Prophet Falkentyne in page 5 of the current forum topic)
-Clocking RAM from 2400mhz to 2666mhz.
4. Never give up!
You should be able to gather all the required info through my conversations with the others within this forum topic.Last edited: Jul 23, 2018raz8020, Gursimran82956 and Falkentyne like this. -
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I think there may be a glitch!
1. Note: When benchmarking, i'd set SST = 0
2. Windows and Drivers are up to date.
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@Gursimran82956 Another point is that in case MSI Dragon Center is messing with your performance, use SteelSeries software for keyboard backlight settings and MSI Silent Option for fan control.
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. However, it runs hotter when benching... i am not sure whats happening. It could be the ambient temp.
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If you are addicted to speed and will do anything it takes to get that bench result, including selling your soul, you may use the Speed Shift parameters to manage the temps.
It really works wonders, bringing the temps down with no adverse effects on gaming quality. You can still game perfectly with a little drop in fps which you can definitively afford with a 1060.
These are some of the parameters that I know of:
0 : Max Performance (I don't normally use this, only for benchmarking)
80: This is the best for me. CPU freq is not locked at max ratings.
128: Max freq is capped at abt 3ghz (I use this for extended gaming sessions)
255: I use this when downloading stuff overnight, min power utilization and low ghzAttached Files:
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Are you all on win 10 home single language?
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Just did as told in unclewebb's guide and got 1163 at max score.
Ambient temperature may be of 31-33°C
Limit reasons are pl1, pl2, edp other
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@Le Quan in both package and cache offsets or change something in the TPL
Is it okay to change turbo limits to 41 on all cores in fivr control?
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