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Repaste is third party mod which shouldn't be a reference point. Stock untouched configs all throttled. Gpu was totally fine though. And it's the same for GP, GE, GS. They should focus more on cpu heat control to be able to fully use its potential rather releasing product that throttles and let the users deal with that by applying liquid metal just to have normal experience right from the box.

 

Oh I agree %10000000000. That’s just never going to happen sadly. Every laptop manufacturer seems its ok to release machines that throttle, that’s the norm. I myself will gladly pay the $95 to get the best results possible.

Imo all manufacturers should be using GOOD paste out of the factory but it seems like $5 is too much overhead on a $2000-$4000 laptop lol.

 

Manufacturers are okay with throttling because the "official" specs for CPUs tend to say "base clock is 2ghz!" so it doesn't matter if you are throttling down to 2.1ghz, its still faster than base clocks!

This makes some manufacturers put very strong CPUs on otherwise insufficiently cooled machines and sell them at a premium. I know my Lenovo P51 can barely cool a regulat i7 7700HQ, but I can customize a new one with probably an i9? I feel it would melt.

 

Hi, I see you ordered MSI GE75 RTX version, I hope you enjoy with your new laptop since you have a bad experience with your old laptop (I saw your post on *s*s brand)

Since everybody in here are still waiting for the laptop to be released, I want to write a review and the problem about the laptop since I already have the GE75 1060 version last month, because the laptop has released in November last year in my country

The size of the laptop is almost the same as GS60 for width and depth, the difference is just 0.7-1 cm. Buf for the thickness and weight, the GS60 still wins at this point. but you could say that GE75 is a 17.3 inch laptop in a 15.6 bezel laptop. but it's still bigger than GE63.
For general build quality i can say it's good. I think there's no flex on the keyboard when i push it. But if you push it hard enough, i think there's a little flex but it's not bad to be worrying about. The chassis is the same as GE63, the body is metal but the bottom cover is still plastic and need to be removed carefully if you want to upgrade something. I can't say what material is used on the lid, it's the same as the last series but it looks sturdy enough.
The display is really good. The brightness, contrast, and view angle is better than the previous series. My friends has GS60 and GP62 so i can see the different that the display is lot better. i don't know how much the percentage of sRGB and NTSC. MSI says that it has 100% sRGB but the reviewers on youtube says 97% to 99%, i can't see the difference though
The temperature is better than last series. Maximum temperature of CPU and GPU reaches 86-88 C on stock paste, never hits 90 C. I undervolt it to -185.5 mV and the temperature drops to 76-78 C. I didn't try further since if I undervolt it too far, turbo boost clock will decrease. I can't check it though since my CPU still boost to 3914 MHz
The touchpad is kinda suck (sorry) . the touchpad driver from MSI is bad, the touchpad really slow and not precise enough but i changed it to my old laptop driver and it became better. I think I got the faulty one for the touchpad. The right size of the touchpad is not sensitive for multi touches, sometimes it click itself when i fast scrolling.

And the last is the keyboard. The keyboard is nice like the old series.
BUT
It has same problem with the previous series. The LED of the keyboard will die one button at a time.
I thought MSI already fix their keyboard since many customers are having the same problem where you can see it on MSI official forum, but they didn't.
My "." button's green led is died several days ago, and yesterday my "5" button's green led is died as well. I believe that this problem will spread to other buttons too. i don't have time for warranty repair because i need the laptop for work and estimated repair time takes 20-30 days since they don't have the spare part and they must order it from Taiwan. And some customer said that after they replaced the keyboard with a new one, the problem still occurs and need to be replaced again.
i put several pictures of my laptop keyboard in this post so you can see the problem is





i don't know if other GE75 will experience this problem too, i really hope they fix it sooner or later since they used the same keyboard on their new GS75

Well that's all my review about the laptop. I think not all laptops are perfect, some of them has its own problem. Overall i think the laptop performance is great even it has the keyboard problem, i'm kinda regret that i bought this laptop last December because I didn't know if the RTX version will be released sooner than I expected. I hope you enjoy your new laptop

P.S.: Sorry if my english is bad

 

I have never used a trackpad on a gaming laptop so that doesn’t bother me at all, as far as the rbg keys go I guess well see! Temps should get good with the liquid metal repaste. Thanks for posting your experience.

EDIT** Just took at look at the MSI forums regarding the issue. I don’t see many posts on it it tbh. I guess I’ll see if I have the issue and deal with it then.

 

thanks for this post. I recently started checking out the GE series and its good to know the possible issues we might face.

Temps seem fine. So it's basically similarly thin as a GS series? What do you think of the general build quality? Aside from the keyboard, what other annoyances have you encountered?

 

Try search "led", "ge63", "ge73", and "Keyboard" in Technical Discussions (MSI Notebook Technical Assistance ONLY). i don't know how much you considered many, but for me, finding more than 5 topics excluding users who post their problem on others topic and users in my country who experience this problem, i considered many.
if you're not that perfectionist for expensive laptop, i would say it's not that annoying.
but in my country the price of the laptop is as expensive as motorcycles, it would be shame for expensive laptop breaks down quickly

well, the size almost as same as GS60 which is 15.6 inch bezel laptop for width and depth, the difference is just 0.7-1 cm. For the thickness and weight GS60 still wins at this point. i don't think the GE series can match the GS series for the thickness and weight.
For general build quality i can say it's good. I think there's no flex on the keyboard since I didn't push it hard enough, the chassis is the same as GE63, the body is metal but the bottom cover is still plastic and need to be removed carefully if you want to upgrade something. I can't say what material is used on the lid, it's the same as the last series but it looks sturdy enough.
I don't think there's any problem other than the keyboard, everything is great. for the trackpad I think I just got the faulty one, the others GE75 won't have the same problem like mine, but I can't say for the keyboard.

 

So, don't keep it a secret...What is your country? It is helpful to know for reference.

 

I'm from Indonesia

Since your company can customize any laptops and has served many customers,
may i ask, have you ever gotten a complaint about MSI keyboard especially GE63/73 series since they used the first per key RGB keyboard for GE series?
Did you know the dead led problem exists?

 

I checked with our Tech Support Team, and they do not recall a single complaint about this keyboard issue.

 

It's probably a batch issue where specific shipments show the problem but the overall machines work fine. Then there are users that probably use a single color for their entire lifetime so they won't experience issues until very late.

It sucks that the problem exists, but perhaps it is not widespread.

 

If you don't mind my asking, how's the screen with respect to reflections and glare?

 

That's good to hear. People don't need to be worry about this issue then.
do you sell keyboard part for ge63/ge75? If you don't encounter this issue i guess i can order keyboard part from you

i guess so, if Donald@HIDevolution never recall this problem, i think only some countries experience this problem.
i think it's because some countries have different keyboard layout, so they have different build and different issue. my laptop's keyboard has "\" button instead of "<" button between space and alt gr button.

I'm not quite sure since I installed a screen protector on my screen. And when I took a picture of it on some degrees, I did see a reflection on the screen, but I never seen any when i use it normally (sorry for not putting my pictures in here, camera's quality is bad). I didn't have opportunity for compare it with my friends laptop All i can say it's better than regular TN panel. Maybe it has some reflection and if you using it outdoors. but if you using it indoors, i don't think there's a problem about it

 

I have GE75 8RF and can not new nvidia driver install, only official from msi 399..., but can not play in BF5 because must be driver from 416...
WTF msi?

 

try uninstall it first, then install the new one from nvidia website. MSI won't update their nvidia driver link. you have to get the latest update from nvidia itself. mine is already 417.71

 

Someone should make a 2019 RTX GE75 owners thread

 

I don't think that's necessary, since GE75 is a new series laptop that have been planned to be released globally in 2019, and only a few countries have released 1060 and 1070 version in late 2018.
It doesn't matter if the RTX and GTX versions joined in one forum. After all no one from ge75 gtx owner posted in this forum unitl a while ago

 

We can probably make an owners thread if there is enough new users with said machine. If the community feels the userbase is small, we can keep this thread alive.

It's a refresh with the same name, but sometimes other things change beside GPU. Sometimes is the wifi card, or specific devices that get upgraded as well, and with such changes, you get new kinds of bugs and issues the community will fight together. Some issues will be exclusive to the new versions, some will remain common between versions, some will be exclusive to the previous versions.

Heck, sometimes they change providers for materials like hinges, and some models specifically have hinge issues on a chassis that seems identically to the previous one.

Plus it's become a bit of a tradition for new owners of new models to open their thread for the new models. that doesn't stop these topics or older models from participating as not everyone can migrate to new machines

 

Good to know. I wasn't planning on using my next laptop outdoors, but there's often a mix of overhead and behind-me lighting.

 

I will be ordering the GE75 with a RTX 2080 from GentechPC and I can't wait!!!

 

Hell yea! I’m getting one also, through HID

 

Has anyone found out if the the 2080 variant has optimus?

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Hope not

 

Well it wont have g-sync so I am thinking that it might have it

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Probably does, oh well idc that much.

 

We can only special order the keyboard itself, not parts.

 

yes, i mean the ge63/75 per key rgb keyboard.
how much it cost? i want to replace the keyboard, but i am worried since it can void the warranty because the keyboard isn't from repair service

 

At least during normal tasks the laptop wont be so loud this way because it wont be always running on the RTX 2080 constantly.

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GS75 2080 max q scored 19200 in firestrike according to Dave2d’s video. Looking good boys! The GE75 2080 should score well above that!

 

Custom Built MSI GE75 8SG Raider-048 - 17.3" Thin Bezel FHD 144Hz - i7-8750H - RTX 2080
Free Game Bundle
Call of Duty: Black Ops 4
Loot Box Level 2 Bundle
Gaming Bag, Dragon Doll, Gaming Headset
LCD Panel
17.3" Thin Bezel FHD (1920X1080), 144Hz 3ms IPS-Level, 100% sRGB, 72% NTSC, 100% sRGB, Anti-Glare
Display Warranty
30 Days Zero Defective Pixel Warranty (perfect panel guarantee) - $35.00
Video Card
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 w/ 8GB GDDR6
Processor
Intel® 8th Generation Coffee Lake Core™ i7-8750H 6 Core - 12 Thread Processor, 2.2 GHz (Max Turbo Frequency 4.1 GHz), 9MB Smart Cache
Thermal Interface Materials
Thermal Grizzly Conductonaut on CPU + GPU, and Fujipoly Extreme Thermal Pads on heat sensitive surfaces – BEST PERFORMANCE – installed by HIDevolution - $95.00
Memory
HIDevolution Approved Standard 16GB Dual Channel DDR4/2666MHz (2 x 8GB) - installed by HIDevolution - $85.00
M.2 PCIe RAID Options
no RAID (1st drive as primary boot drive, 2nd drive as storage drive)
M.2 PCIe Slot 1
Samsung 970 EVO 1TB M.2 PCIe 3.0 x4 NVMe 3D-VNAND SSD - Up to 3,500 MB/s Read-2,500 MB/s Write - Installed by HIDevolution - $300.00
M.2 PCIe / SATA Slot 2
None
2.5" HDD/SSD Bay
1TB 7200 RPM SATA 6Gb/s Hard Drive
Wireless Cards
Intel® Wireless-AC 9560 802.11 ac/a/b/g/n 2x2 NGFF w/ Bluetooth 5.0 - installed by HIDevolution - $35.00
Operating System
Genuine Windows® 10 Home, 64bit, English
Operating System Clean Install
Yes, Clean Install of Windows - $15.00
Office Software
None
Power Adapter
280W AC Power Adapter (supports 100-240V)
Internal Battery
Internal 6 cell (65Wh) battery
Audio
Giant Speakers 3W*2 + Subwoofer 3W *2
Steelseries Keyboard
Steel Series per-Key RGB with Anti-Ghost key+ silver lining
Warranty and Service
1 Year Limited U.S. Warranty w/ 1 Year Accidental Damage "No Oops" Protection + 1 Year Global Warranty on base system w/ MSI in local region, where supported + LIFETIME HIDevolution Technical Support
HIDevolution International Pre-paid Shipping (HIPS) Service
None
MSI Front Lid Logo Color
White (Standard)


Ordered!

 

You will probably be better getting it from your local MSI Service Center.

If you want a quote from me, email me your request to [email protected] including your full name, email address, billing/shipping address and phone number.

 

Remember to compare individual component scores (GPU and CPU) and not overall score It seems the the GE75 RTX 2080 is slightly faster than my very overclocked GTX1080, so that is a big plus.

 

Link to GE75 2080 benchmarks?

 

In GentechPC's video for the GE75 you can see the firestrike score at minute 10:19.

 

Looks throttled to hell in that video. Will get a better idea of true scores with the liquid metal repaste. I should have mine in a few days.

 

The GPU was only 74 celisus though, maybe something else is there. The CPU score is meaningless to me, unless users tweak it themselves they just showed what a new customer without any tweaks could get and those temps are identical to any 8th gen machine that gets no repaste.

Seems like the new RTX are easier to cool down as was predicted due to the larger die area.

 

From what I understand, the benefit in cooling due to a larger die area is associated with part of that die (Tensor and Ray Tracing Cores) not being active during the Firestrike benchmark. Which begs the question: if the whole chip were used, would we still see better temps?

 

No idea, because using the full chip also has the bad news of TDP limits. The desktop parts had higher TDP compared to pascal due to the tensor cores and RT cores. These mobile GPUs might have considerably diminished performance compared to desktop GPUs due to the limited TDP.

We will know more over time.

 

I'm going to be upgrading the thermal paste after I've had it for a couple weeks and was thinking of replacing the pads with fujipoly.

Is there anyway I can find out what sizes and how many of each I would need?

 

I received my unit yesterday with the RTX 2080. This device is really impressive. Ray tracing performance (Based on the port royal benchmark) is similar to a desktop 2070. (my score was 5442)

 

Could you run firestrike? Also any luck overclocking the 2080? My GE75 2080 arrives Saturday, so excited!

 

Firestrike 19868 (graphics 25291, physics 16565, combined 8605)

Firestrike extreme 11265 (G 11990, P 16240, Combined 5891)

I haven't tried OC the GPU. So far I only undervolted the CPU. for 1080P gaming the CPU is a bottleneck, for most games the GPU usage is around 80% with the CPU maxed out

 

just wondering by how much did you undervolt the CPU?

 

-0.120 & stable, I haven't pushed it further yet.

 

Looks good thanks!

 

Whats the best way to set a automatic undervolt on bootup?

 

There is a video from Bob of all trades hes pretty good explaining he shows how to set it up in boot at the end



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Thanks!