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Nice to know this, I was under the impression the 9th gen wasnt worth it because, while it had increased clock speeds, it had higher temperatures and not much gains to justify.
If it is not to much trouble, would you mind mentioning some of the key benefits of the 9th gen?
Perhaps I'll consider publishing mine on marketplace and picking up the 9SE when it goes on sale in eBay.
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Personally I'd wait for next gen
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Perhaps I'll list mine for sale and try and grab the new one, one can dream!
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one thing im on the lookout is the heatsink design i recon it might be the same exact layout as what we have now with better fans.....if this comes out to be true we might be able to swap in those new fans into ours.....wishful thinkingLast edited: Feb 22, 2020 -
In regards to the later 2019 Gs65, it is quite sturdy in comparison to the 2080mq 8xx version I initially used at the start of 2019. If anything, no creaks under regular use and handling.
I do however want the GS66, but the pricing for 300Hz and more makes the total around 3.1k USD from what I remember reading. Hopefully it becomes way more affordable after a year and with ampere.
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As long as the price dips below 1600USD for a 240Hz/2070 equivalent or better, I am all up for it.
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As per Svet. Looks like the settings on the 9xx series MSI GS65/75 are hardware locked. Decided to hell with it and applied conductonaut (extremely fine mirror layer; no excess) to my system to end this issue once and for all. Temps cap out at 74C after 2 hrs while playing TD2 at 3.6GHz on all cores (I cap TD2 at 75 FPS because RTX 2060 wont be able to do more than that stably on a 240Hz display).
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Ah I see, yeah it doesn't let you go below 26
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Cpu flex ratio cannot go below 26x. Any possible edits can only be minor modifications like switch fcn key swaps. Potentially can brick laptop if attempting to overwrite the locks since it may require flashing hardware too.
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Not sure why, but silentoption from time to time would trigger the GPU to turn on (white LED turning orange) and would drain battery life. Anyone know a way to stop it from doing so besides restarting the app?
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Try to put it to use iGPU (if possible).
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Anyone having flakey USB port issues? Sometimes when my Audeze Mobius are plugged in, audio craps out and performance visibily drops for a second.
Update: isolated issue to the cables. Both cables for my Audeze Mobius were faulty and after swapping to a higher quality cable, no more issues. That faulty cable would cause machine to freeze when my headset bugs out and stops being recognized.
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BIG EDIT: 8SE version, I apologise for the confusion.
@eyek @eurodj101 @Kevin@GenTechPC , I can finally confirm that I have found a 90W VBIOS with the mDP working for the 9SE (RTX 2060).
VBIOS is found here.
Guide used is below - The only thing I did different was uninstall and reinstall latest Nvidia Drivers after restarting post vBIOS Flash.
Notes: I was unable to get my mDP to function when I was flashing different vBIOS, I tried three different VBIOS back to back and then decided to go back to stock and still could not get it to work UNTIL I uninstalled and reinstalled Nvidia drivers (I used DDU).
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The 2nd screenshot was only posted to show the TDP value, it doesnt accept unsigned VBIOS, so while you could tweak and save it will never let it flash. I have not benchmarked yet. I was only interested in getting mDP back. I may download Firestrike later and test (recently reformatted and only have productivity apps installed).
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http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/44905021?loginkey=CAn3HjAQZZ6mPdW65WO5Zg
So around the same performance as the previous ASUS 90W BIOS I listed with the non-working MiniDP.
OCed with the following BIOS Tweaks
TDC:
- CPU Power and Performance: CPU VR Settings
- Cora I/A Domain
- IA AC/DC Loadline = 1
- VR Current Limit: 928
- TDC: Disabled
- Value 0
- Cora I/A Domain
- GPU:
- Frequency: 1050 MHz
- IMON Slope: 50
- IMON Offset: 31999
- IMON Offset Prefix: NEGATIVE (-)
Hackness' Guide
- Power & Performance: CPU
- Power Management Control
- View/Configure CPU Lock Options
- CFG Lock: DISABLED
- View/Configure CPU Lock Options
- Power Management Control
- CPU Information
- CPU Flex Ratio Override: ENABLED
- CPU Flex Ratio Settings: 8
- Software Guard Extension (SGX): DISABLED
- Enable Speedshift
GPU:
- PEGO:
- ASPM: DISABLED
Memory OC:
- 12x 19-20-49-20-28-52782-647 1.25V
Core: 220
Memory: 400
STOCK (80W) -No OCs: 13136 FS Score
NOTE: Not at all scientific, I took the results of one control I had saved from when I first bought the laptop.
The current FS Score is just the top I got off max of 2 tests. Funny how its the 2nd highest I have ever gotten. I have reached 16XXX+ but could never replicate it.
Current ambient temp (Google Search) - 28C, fans on max 150% CPU/GPU, laptop back is elevated with small laptop stand.
My intention with this post is just to communicate that it provides the near the same if not equal performance to the previous 90W VBIOS I listed from ASUS where the mDP did NOT work.
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Temps were around 85°C on GPU for me.
I want to say it's nice to have, free upgrade. But not indispensable.
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Is it possible for Firestrike to report false temperature readings? For instance GPU max temp shows up as 87C in firestrike during the physics test, but neither HWINFO nor MSI AB record temps that high, so unsure who to believe.
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Dang, after two months of intense backpacking and such, I can tell my unit is bowed. Not a returnable condition sadly. Anyone know if I can just flatten it with a few books or something? Not very keen on replacing the entire chassis this early in the cycle.
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Can confirm MDP works with Oculus Rift S, also i cant get new those FS scores, dunno why i know ts workign ok cause in gme i see the core clock hit the power limit warning in AB and i have bout 150mhz more core clock on average than before but cant seem to get to 15kLast edited: Apr 1, 2020 -
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I recall scores could vary if plugged into monitor. A maybe wrong though, might have just been a coincidence.
I did not have external monitor plugged in.
The 9SE BIOS is locked isn't it? I know the GPU ASPM setting gave me another 400ish.
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It is in one of the unlocked section. If you can unlock yours I can try and give it and post exact location.
GPU:
1. PEGO:
a. ASPM: DISABLED
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