MSI GT75 TITAN 8RG-094 Review by Ultra Male

Im on 391.35 and havent had any troubles. I believe @Mr. Fox is running 391.24 (on his desktop).

 

Yes, it seems to be OK so far. But, I haven't tried overclocked benching with it yet. I have obtained my best benchmark scores on 388.13 and 388.31. Some versions of GeFarts drivers act goofy with the CPU and system RAM severely overclocked, like this...

Edit: 391.24 did OK as well.

 

Kernel power error is nothing more than an unexpected system power off. It means basically nothing useful for us.
I suspect the blame is the Nvidia drivers. Didn't the original Nvidia "new" drivers released right after this laptop was available for purchase not even detect the card? (code 43 or something).
However i cannot help since I don't have a 1080.

 

That's just one of the value-added services the Green Goblin is happy to provide at no extra charge.

 

Hello. I have the Gt75 8rg with i7 and gtx1080. When i start to play (Fortnite for example) my core clock speed is about 1850. But during some time (about 1-2 hours). It drops to 1556 and stays as it is. The temperature is about 70 (C). What is happening. How can i fix this and is this an issue? Thank you. Sorry for asking.

 

GPU is throttling on account of temperature, which starts right around the 45c mark. Only way to fix it without hardware modding is to keep it cooler.

Welcome to Pascal Architecture

 

At stock the GPU runs on GPU Boost 3.0 which controls the clocks based on temperature. The cooler the temp the higher it will clock up, the hotter it is the lower the clocks will go.

That being said have you tried maxing the fans to see if theres any difference? Also keep ventilation free on the back and sides as well as the underside. If theres limited air intake it could possibly heat up the laptop faster. You can improve performance by increasing fan speeds, having a cooler room, clearing up anything that can block the intakes.

 

Thank you for the replies! Ill try to put fans to max and check it out. I supposed that 70 C is ok but it seems not. Also nothing blocks the ventilation sides ( even the bottom of the notebook, it stands upon special thing which allows the wind go right there). I'll post the information here after ill check it out.

 

Does the reduced clocks affect you? fortnite is not exactly demanding, and the GPU might be running at lower clocks but still providing the framerate, in case you are using vsync. Are your frames down?

Also, I like changing the GPU from Optimal to Adaptive in the NVidia control Panel, Manage 3D settings, because Optimal is weird and sometimes does not clock up correctly when gaming.

If your temps are around 70, they are fine, and I wouldn't use turbo fan. Instead try overclocking the GPU so that the base clockspeed when gaming is higher. It will always fluctuate due to how GPU boost works but it will maintain a higher average clockspeed.

 

When the clock states changes it cause stutter. That moment from 1850 to 1550 and after some time suddenly back to 1850 and then back to 1550 causes stuttering. It is rare. But in games like fortnite can be critical.

GPU is seted to maximum performance. Ill try the adaptive one.

 

How is your CPU behaving on that same moment? Have you modified anything on the laptop? Like removing the battery or something like that? Is your machine power profile set to high performance?

 

Stuttering issue is known.
https://forums.geforce.com/default/...utter-when-perfcap-reason-gpu-z-hit-pwr-thrm/

One workaround is to set GPU to prefer maximum performance in NVCP then use MSI Afterburner to lock the clocks directly at a certain voltage point with Control F and L.

 

@Phoenix did you Overclock it yet? If you need help throw me some kind of steam/discord add, I'll glady help you out.

 

I am aware you posted this result some time ago but it just isn't making sense... I noticed already that my gpu will pull up to 212W in firestrike (and I receive slightly better graphics score than you too) while yours only pulls up to 185W according to hwinfo... now I supposed there could be some monitoring issues etc but look at my final fantasy xv bench result: It is still clearly superior to yours and you should be the one having the superior system! Am I the one who won the silicon lottery with my 1080 here or does the card just perform better at higher temps lol? I even get slightly better score when testing borderless instead of fullscreen (over 8500)... what is this sorcery? And again your gpu only pulled 173W max while mine over 191W. Sth is off here, sorry for pointing it out at this point. Are you sure the 397.64 drivers are working for you? I am still on 390.94.

 

That's probably why

I'll run the benchmark again with your driver

 

Maybe you do have some issues with the 397.64 and you did not even know? My card hated that driver and downclocked to 139MHz constantly in games with it. On the official msi driver all is smooth, but it does in fact heat up quiet a bit (up to 85 degrees with my 59% max gpu fan speed). I still have to repaste it though :x It just seems wrong that I would score so high with a crappy locked i7... even despite the game being more gpu-dependent than cpu-dependent (after all we have the same gpu... I suppose.)

 

Same vBios?

 

As far as I know there is only one vbios available for this thing? Either way I am on the 86.04.80.00.5b

 

I don't know. @Phoenix Still on 397.64 ?

 

so I tried the 390.94 driver and I got almost a 1000 more points

@Papusan @Mr. Fox

 

Now that seems more like it! ^^ I declare 397.64 complete poo drivers.

 

Never could've imagined who much of a PooPoo it is until you showed me your benchmarks. I thought my taptop was broken at first

 

Hey on the positive side, there are people who reported their gpu's literally being scorched and burnt by this driver... at least you found out before that could happen haha. Saves a nasty warranty claim. ^^ Now the scores are pretty the same which makes sense as it is mainly gpu-dependent.

 

so it sounds like that suggestion here is to revert back to to 390.94?

 

Thanks. downgrading to 388.x. Thank you for showing me the way. Screw Ngreedia and their tissue paper magic smoke drivers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

Yes

 

None of you read my posts?

 

I had not the time bro

 

Next time you may smell something strange

Spoiler: WHOAAAAA...

 

I was using .55, not .64. I read your posts. But I wasn't using that POS driver. Still reverted anyway. Because .55 is too close to .64.

 

thanks! will revert back to the older drivers. wasn't seeing really crazy temps or anything but better safe than sorry!

 

Play games and not benchmarks

Been playing Rise of Tombraider, Ni no Kuni II, and Overwatch, all working nice and smoot! with .64, .55 was trash tho.

 

All this talk about the newest drivers I will definitely revert to 390.94 just to be on the safe side.

 

I will need to re-run all the graphics benchmarks with the 390.94 drivers as the ones with the newer drivers gave me worse results

 

Guys just keep in mind that with 390.94 for my laptop there is a bug with power states. This means if you have the display set to go black after some time of inactivity you might at that point encounter black screen impossible to wake up, funny artefacts over the screen or bsods with driver power state failure. The bugs where drivers could not wake the gpu and corruptions in one of the components are reported as fixed in newer drivers but impossible to install on the gt75. So if you do encounter this go to advanced power settings and set the display to never turn off. Since then I had 0 issues with idling.

 

Got a question. How sure are you that we actually do have the ESS Sabre HiFi DAC hardware in our GT75 8RG? I don't see any signs that we do.
In my old GT80, when I removed the bottom lid, I could actually see a box with ESS Sabre sticker on it and when I plugged in earphones, there was ESS Sabre icon displayed in Nahimic. In this new Nahimic 3, there is only Hi-Fi Headphones displayed (which can mean anything), you cannot install the old Nahimic (can't find compatible hardware), and there is NOTHING on the motherboard indicating that there is any Hi-Fi DAC present.
Device manager or HWiNFO64 doesn't show any indications of ESS Sabre HiFi DAC. All I can see is Realtek.
The only place I can see ESS Sabre HiFi DAC mentioned are MSI marketing materials.
When I try to install C-Media Xtrenme audio from GT75 8RG drivers page, I get this:

Your thoughts?

 

Can't help at all with that. The hi-fi board is an addon DAC. You can see it physically removed in that old low quality retro music GT73VR 6RF disassembly video.
What CPU does your exact model have? 8950HK ?

 

Yes, 8950HK.

 

Is there any change in snr quality? I'm not an audiophile. But there should be a LARGE Gain in boost. You should also be able to use 650 Ohm headphones and get good quality sound.
If you were trying to use onboard without the DAC, you would barely get anything.

 

Unfortunately, I'm out of town so I can't try to plug in my high ohm Grados. Got only the POS that came with my Note 8. Can't really tell any difference with these.
Although... now when I think about it, When I plugged these low impedance earphones to the dedicated ESS Sabre port in my old GT80, they sounded absolutely horrible. The only earphones that worked great plugged in that port were these high ohm Grados.
With this laptop though, the POS AKGs play about the same no matter which hole I use.

 

I honestly just assumed it was really there since the audio quality is a lot higher over headphones (no matter which) than the old gt72vr. Also external speakers sound really great especially if nahimic is off

 

For an illustration, here is a picture of GT80 guts:


In the GT75 8RG... no such a thing.

 

Sigh. I can't help with this.

The hifi board is shown somewhere by the end of this video on the GT73VR.
I can only suggest...disassembly and checking if you know how to not break stuff, or contact the reseller and complain.

 

Thanks for that video. No, I'm not gonna take it apart. Its not THAT detrimental to me. I was just wondering why it doesn't show up in any hardware reporting/monitoring programs and what does it mean that I can't install the Xtreme audio DAC driver and "downgrade" to Nahimic 2+
IMO Nahimic 3 looks better, but it's a step back in functionality and I hate the fact that the only place where you can download it from is a Microsoft Store.

 

Bruh, I have created new Hwinfo profile for Coffee-Flake. If you need it, I can put it into the old PM.

http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...r5-owners-lounge.815492/page-62#post-10734141

 

PM me bro,m I have not the time to create HWiNFO profiles

 

Have you tested?
Stock clocks but with a small undervolt (-55mv). Coffee is known for a lot more. 20.5C ambient and Cpu temp maxed out around 51C directly after my trip on NBR. The old lady work as day one Worse with the awful results below from Alienware and Asus High end gamingbooks


Btw. If you are interestead what the other BIG OEM's offer from their High class gamingbooks with i9-8950Hk
Alienware 17 R5 review (i9-8950hk - 1080)-Techradar.com Cinebench R15 - 987cb
Asus ROG G703GI review (i9-8950hk - 1080)Techradar.com Cinebench R15 - 1070cb

 

Impressive. I can't get over 1400 cine (@46x) without going into high 90s (and throttling of course). And that's with -0.160 offset undervolt.
But I can do nice 1333 cine (@43x) without fans spooling into high speed. (max temp 84C)
And that's how I run her DD.

 

Increased the undervolt for stock clocks to see if I could lower the max load temp down to Alienwares cpu idle temp. + the scores increased as well. 1457cb for stock clocks is ok and temp maxed out 43C. Around 18C ambient temp. Max 2C degrees between hottest vs. coldest core.


Edit. Still under 50C aka Alienware idle temp 46x@1545cb


47x on all 6 cores - Cinebench R15 - 1579cb and temp maxed out 51C.


BGABook,TurdBook,JokeBook,... A dear UGLY child is known by many names!!

 

So you are trying to say that the i9 in the asus and alienware are.... garbage? Even my i7-8750H got 1247 points in cinebench just now (with 72 degrees max during the test on factory goo). And I get well over 18k in firestrike... how is the asus below 16k is beyond me. >.<