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    MSI GT73VR 7RF Titan Pro-425 Review By Ultra Male

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    Three m.2 slots along with two 2.5" drives → Clevo P870KM/TM
    You are too slow to react. I saw it on Samsung's own website yesterday :D
     
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    What with Samsung 860 EVO SSD Makes an Appearance ? Replace your old *antique* 850 EVO's:D The M.2 sata offer 2 TB.
     
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    Well phoenix will test the new SSD's endurance and the drive will fail. 2400GB is over-rated and its a very unbelievable number they have skimmed off from Sean SSD test of 850 pro.
     
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    He have lived with 850 Evo a long time. 860 Evo can't be any worse :rolleyes:
     
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    Well I re-install Windows almost every 3 days on my Dual 2TB 960 Pros thank God they're in RAID mode so the writes are split between both SSDs. Make sure you never buy an SSD from Phoenix :eek: although they work 100% and thanks to my 20% Overprovisioning I have 0 performance loss.

    Be smart, be like Phoenix.... [​IMG]
     
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    That's complete madness, I think W10 isn't for you. Your best hope is to use latest Linux Mint version preferably LTS version and forget about re-install for next 3-5 years. I haven't re-installed Linux for nearly 3 years on 16.04LTS and still it is faster than W10 on HDD.
    Give Phoenix OS a try. http://www.phoenixos.com/download
    Downgrade Windows 10 to AE and you should have zero problems.
     
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    Only almost every 3 days? :D At least if I buy your ssd's I know they work :rolleyes:
    Even with a fully working OS... Bro Phoenix would still try to see if he can gain some more performance. It's the nature of an true computer enthusiasts :eek:
     
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    isn't he hitting the limit of DMI3.0 because his RAID'ed SSDs has R/W speeds over 5GB/s, what more can you optimise because that raw IO speeds destroys anything you throw at it.
     
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    So on my new GT75 I’m running a 4.2ghz overclock and -100mv in XTU. Temps are awesome.

    @Phoenix are you running 4.2ghz 24/7?
     
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    Run CINEBENCH R15 and post temp results from HWiNFO64
     
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    Yes 4.2 GHz with a -70mV offset 24/7 with Liquid Ultra or 4.4 GHz with a -44mV offset for benching and beating Poopoosan :eek:
     
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    @Papusan

    Thanks to @Falkentyne new setting that he taught me, I got my temps down by 10C and gained one CPU point in Cinebench and that's with running it without closing all the apps, just like I would normally use my taptop, only NOD32 disabled

    [​IMG]
     
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    I expect You meant “try” to beating Poopoosan :D
    I like this one... The way I normally use my taptop... Run apps and disable Antivirus :vbbiggrin:

    Use that 10c better thermal headroom to raise the clocks :hi: What else should you use it for? :eek:
     
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    I have not the time right now but I will disable my entire taptop and show you another test :eek: :rolleyes:
     
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    What more can be said...
    [​IMG]
     
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    Phoenix's got a Tesseract or Transformer's cube. :eek: :vbthumbsup:
    Bga transforms to LGA with Tigerlake Chips to compete with Papusan.
     
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    Poopoosan [​IMG] >>>> vs [​IMG] <<<< Phoenix
     
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    Loki is the best.
     
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    @Papusan

    After disabling all the tasks and running Cinebench, I got 3 more points for the CPU score but my OpenGL scores went down by 9 FPS, everytime I run the test again, I lose another 3 FPS :rolleyes:

    [​IMG]
     
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    Maybe Start with never ever run that useless openGL bench? Not fun be beaten by old 980M o_O Even some 1080Ti desktop cards being beaten by 1060 mobile in this test :eek:

    upload_2018-1-21_15-55-14.png
     
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    also that Cinebench really needs to be updated man, it's reporting my OS to be Windows 8 :rolleyes:

    Please contact the developer and tell him to update it. I have not the time for this :rolleyes:
     
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    I'm happy I don't neeed to be reminded on WinCrap X :rolleyes: They could risk cripple the bench as M$ do with their new pastel colored Puke Tile OS :eek: Better let it be.
     
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    I miss only 2 wimpy point for clean 1000cb with 44X :eek:
    [​IMG]
     
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    @Papusan

    do you like my rock stable 4400 MHz clock speeds bro? :rolleyes:

    [​IMG]
     
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    Rock stable clocks need to be used.... Hence vi have Cinebench... :eek: Yees. Push it to the bloody bitter end, bruh. And please, No openGL :D May I see +980cb ? :rolleyes: And...
     
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    1 extra Cinebench cookie for you with my new BIOS and my OpenGL scores went back to normal:

    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]
     
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    I hoped to see +980cb :D You still run that openGL junk? :eek:
     
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    Just so I don't want to see a blank score and I run it AFTER the CPU test :eek: :rolleyes:
     
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    Oh' well. Better run Cpu test more than one time. Then put your openGL (if needed :eek:)
    This ↓↓↓ is 44X
    upload_2018-1-23_2-45-18.png
     
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    I destroyed my Intel management engine. It says "ME Temporarily Disabled" because I chose Management Engine: Disabled in PCH FW section because i wanted to see what would happen.

    So I re-enabled it and it's still disabled.
    No negative effects except CPU speed isn't being shown in the Bios. Shows as 0 mhz.
    I wonder if it's because I flashed the win-raid binary instead of waiting for the MSI official binary?
    But now the Intel ME diagnostic software says it can't communicate with the ME or the ME access is blocked or some strange stuff.

    Not important anyway. Doesn't change how the taptop works.
    But I really wonder if I should update this bios now. Especially if current Ucode causes random reboots...
     
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    stop comparing apples to avocados :rolleyes:
     
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    They come from same.... And with exactly same IPC!! :rolleyes: Even *old* Skyflake :eek: And I even lower the goal to +980cb :oops:
    [​IMG]
     
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    time for you to have this buddy:

    [​IMG]
     
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    upload_2018-1-23_3-21-17.png I'll leave it :(
     
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    I didn't update yet. I'm afraid of 2 things right now:
    1) My Intel management engine is "temporarily disabled", so disabled in fact that I can't even flash the 3426 firmware over the 3425 firwmare with the Intel flash update utility. It says "ME is in an error state preventing communcation.

    2) I already did a full CMOS clear, and the ME is still "temporarily disabled."
    My BCLK was also stuck at 99.750. Had to do a bunch of reboots and loading a profile which had "Intel ICC" actually available, even though no option worked, and finally got it back to 100.0 BCLK.

    Regardless if I update the new bios, I'm afraid it will fail because it won't be able to flash the Intel ME for some reason. I mean I DO have my hardware programmer :eek: But I would have to take out the videocard and repaste LM on that just to access it. Maybe the ME firmware would work then. Or maybe it would brick. I don't know.
     
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    and why exactly did you disable the Intel ME Firmware? :rolleyes:
     
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    Because "if it's there, I need to touch it" :( :(


    (Ok if you want the TRUTH I was trying to get that "Hybrid Power" Enabled/Disabled option to appear in the Bios somehow, so I was going through every option that made more than 1% of sense, trying to disable stuff...

    The only way Papusan would stop vomiting is if I disable Battery Boost completely...and the only way I was able to do that was to remove the battery and change three EC Registers...I want to do it with the battery INSERTED...
     
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    Isn't the Energy Performance Gain which is set to disabled in our unlocked BIOS doing exactly that?
     
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    No, that's for low power DDR RAM or something with sleep mode or low power DIMM voltage or something. Something that doesn't make any sense.
     
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    hmm, I always that was it. My battery never seems to discharge so I am assuming I don't have that problem. It's always at 94% not charging
     
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    Do you ever pull more than 260W to the system directly? (might show up as 290W from the wall, with PSU inefficiency).

    What happens if you run Valley benchmark, with "batteryinfoview" open?
    (might have to overclock the 1080 a little bit).
    If the battery voltage drops, then it's drawing power from the battery.
    In RWEverything, Register Offsets 46 and 47 show when the battery is being drained (or charged), and at what rate. 00,00 means unused. The values to the right of that are the battery voltage (in several registers).
     
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    oh I don't know, I don't have the time to do these kinda tests. As long as my taptop is working fine and benchmarks are fine, that's all I care about. to heck with the battery
     
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    Papusan's BGA mode CB benching really is correct. He showed me cb score on 31x was 700 and I was 20 points behind him. Took a little more time to reach 696 and Papusan is ahead of me by 4 points. If my ambients were lower than 25C I think I can get near it.
     
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    42x
    [​IMG]

    Best scores ever with [email protected] on Notebookcheck.net
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    Sad Truth: BGA always sucks. That is its destiny. By design, it is impossible for it to be good, even at its best.
     
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