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Hey guys, i want to ask which bios version is the latest one for MSI 1762 barebone?
i currently have this
E1762IG6.70U
11/23/2012

But the overclocking seems locked as i can't change clocks even using custom vbios

 

GFX clocks are entirely GPU vbios dependent, the system bios will have no impact on it.

 

but i have tried multiple vbios'es and still no luck, clocks are always locked, although if vbios's stock clocks are changed, they do change but i cant change through any software

 

Ok i managed to unlock my cores, however i have a question
How high on core and memory is it possible to go without overvolting?

Im on 800 core and 2200 memory right now, default voltage of 0.900 (somehow nvidia inspector shows 0.987 while all other softwares show 0.900 )
I want to go a bit higher on core, say 850, is it possible without overvolting?

 

Every chip is different, so yours will go as far as it will go.

Also it's best to share a solution when you find it in case someone else has the same problem.

 

Solution.. well it's not really a solution but i re-flashed the unlocked vBios, did a clean re-install of drivers and this time used nvidia inspector instead of MSI afterburner and it worked like a charm.

What is the default voltage on 680m? Nvidia inspector shows it goes to 0.987v while every other program like HWmonitor or GPU Shark, they all show 0.900v

 

NVIDIA GeForce GTX 770M video card benchmark result - Intel Core i7-3740QM Processor, MS-16F3

16F3 rocking a 770M

Running a sager card and I have not figured out how to make it 100% compatible yet (I get a single driver crash before it works normally for the rest of the boot) but for now I am pretty happy.

1ghz core = 58C maximum core temp during 3dmark 11 lol.

 

That card got some great OC potential, I managed to push it to 1150mhz on the core, resulting in a P7000 GPU score in 3dmark11 / P25000 GPU score in Vantage - RAM clocks can be upped to 2700mhz also.

 

Yeah, I was around 6000 at just under 1ghz so that sounds about right.

NVIDIA GeForce GTX 770M video card benchmark result - Intel Core i7-3740QM Processor, MS-16F3

 

Looks like we are still rocking our old barebones (I still got yours, with a new mobo though haha)

 

I need some help, i'm facing this weird GPU Usage issue, it keeps fluctuating between 50-99% in most of the games ( not all ).
After alot of searching over the internet, i still can't seem to understand what's causing this, however i saw on MSI forum about some beta EC that solved GPU Usage issues, very similar to mine, I'm using this 1762 barebone
with
E1762IG6.70U date: 11/23/2012
and
EC is 1762EG62 Ver 5.02

Can anyone help me, are there any updates to this bios and EC for 1762.
This GPU Usage issue is very irritating since it causes random FPS drops in games and they stutter alot.
Is it safe to Flash that Beta EC for GT70 into this barebone? since forum states barebones are not supported.

I need help please

Edit:
have a look

 

Looking at the screen, it does not appear to be a GPU issue, as you maintain clocks most of the time and the small drops correspond to drops in utilization... How is your CPU doing in those same tasks? Also, what framerate do you have on the same screen shot you show here?

 

actually those small drops in core clock dont usually happen, just in this GTA game, earlier part of the graph is showing high framerate of 200-300 (in menus usually) then later on its 50-60 normally, then there are dips of 15-25 that is when it stutters

i monitored CPU too, there is 1 thread out of 8 that does reach 100% usage sometimes but it does. can 3630qm really bottleneck 680m?

 

Ok here is one for ya guys.

I have all of my panel keys working (turbo fan works, keyboard led works, eject works) Everything works except the airplane button. I hit it, and it shuts down the wireless and blutooth, but then a second later they just come back on...

Anyone else ever see this??? I have the service running for the panel and like I said, all the other buttons works great.

Thanks!

 

This is in sleeping dogs. you see framerate is normally stable at 45-55 fps and then there are huge dips in GPU Usage followed by stuttering and fps drop to half.

 

That sort of pattern indicates CPU throttle to me usually.

 

How can i prevent CPU Throttling like that? i did use HwInfo64 and saw atleast 1 thread hitting 100% in multiple games, not same thread though and maximum 1 thread would hit 100%, other 7 are like 80%

 

Cpu throttle that causes the GPU to slow down that much would be due to temperature, use the monitoring in intel XTU to monitor CPU temps and throttle percentage at the same time as graphing the GPU to see if it lines up.

Different games will be coded to be able to use different amounts of threads.

 

I will try that, although my CPU temps never go beyond 70C in gaming, WPrime 1024m only took it to 78C. but i will check just to make sure.

by the way there is this Beta EC update on MSI forums that resolved a very similar problem to this, are these related?

Thank you

 

Ok i installed XTU and meaker is right my CPU is throttling, it goes down to 1.2 ghz and thats when it stutters so much and fps drops.
why is my CPU doing this? according to intel XTU max temps reached were 64C.. how is that not a safe temparature?

Any solutions, what should i do?

 

Yeah, when I saw the graph that's why I mentioned too the CPU. Meaker is right and usually when your GPU is at full performance but there is underutilization, the CPU is throttling, bottlenecking.

Now that you mention it Captmario, I remember there was a throttling issue with earlier GT70 models which then got patched. Maybe your Barebone is experiencing the same thing? Since it's working with intel XTU it is not an issue of the system itself lacking capability, but maybe the BIOS is not helping your system.

 

Yeah the issue is most likely the one and the same. However I am not sure using branded BIOS is a good idea on the barebone, hopefully MSI has the actual BIOS. Try requesting them too, directly to MSI.

 

you were right all along that something else was causing this, i thought its not CPU because my temps are very low on CPU.
How can i patch this now or am i stuck with this issue until the end

are there any solutions to this?

 

At this point I would just start over. Fresh clean windows install and drivers. Then slowly start adding things on. With those temps it shouldnt be doing that at all. Try that first

 

You can try what apachehavok suggest. You once told me you didn't experience this at the very first so maybe something else is causing it. But don't discard the BIOS issue yet. For now Intel XTU is working as a temporary solution which should enable you to play fine? You can try tools like Throttlestop to at least let you game and use your system while a solution is found.

Also contact MSI directly with your laptop model and explain the situation, addind that the GT70 version was patched with beta firmware to help with it. Barebone should also get patched if it's a problem.

 

if its a BIOS/EC related issue, you think reinstalling from scratch might help? i can try that but it takes a while to set everything back up and if this occurred again, ill go crazy lol
for the past 2 weeks im only trying to figure out what's causing this, i blamed my games but its CPU, which i believe was a issue of the past but now that i have it, maybe someone who is an expert on BIos/EC can help me by directing me to right thing

i just hope i get rid of this. any other suggestions before i do a clean install of everything?

 

no.. Intel XTU only told me that my CPU is throttling, its not preventing the throttling?
I will try to contact MSI then hoping they might help. you got a link to ask them? i saw it somewhere but i don't know where

 

I would double check your power brick is behaving itself.

 

Can you explain a bit?
you mean that power adapter is not ok? or is something wrong with my PSU?

 

If your psu was unable to supply enough power your cpu and gpu would throttle and you would switch to battery. Otherwise you could try a different ec version if the cpu/gpu/power all look to be normal.

 

Everything seems normal to me. benchmarks like 3dmark 11 or fire strike do keep usage at 100% unless ofcourse they draw less power then games.
From where can i get EC? my current one is 1762EG62 Ver 5.02 dated at 09/25/2012. i dont get it though, if earlier GT70s had it, this EC doesn't seem old

 

I just ran two stress tests together, one in intel XTU and one Furmark, so that both get 100% usage, however my CPU was constantly stucked at 1.2 ghz (100% throttling)
but my laptop did not switch to battery, is it normal that two stress tests cant be working together or it clearly indicates that there is something wrong

 

Try using Throttlestop to force your CPU at max performance. If it works, then most likely the power management of the laptop is choosing to throttle down the CPU to reduce power, most likely to help the GPU. 680m.

However, 680m stock and 3630qm should be okay with 180w PSU. At least for the grand majority of situations. OC is another deal.

 

Ok i will give that a go and check, can i ask a question, is it possible if its not getting enough power and i force it not to throttle then it may get damaged due to Throttlestop?

PS - 680m is still at stock voltage. ( i dont know if overclocking alone draws more power or it is result of overvolting )

 

Guys, i'm experiencing a problem with graphic performance and maybe some of you could figure out what's causing that.
Config: Ms1763 4700MQ, 8Gig Ram, 1Tb 5400 RPM with stock values. I am getting pretty much the same bench scores than most of you (except Physics which is around 7400)
When testing games such as Need for speed most wanted, i get massive lags at 10-15 seconds intervals (the rest goes with about 55-60FPS/CPU max 70 degrees C).
Checked temps: without turbo fans GPU won't exceed 79 Degrees C
Tried all nvidia Drivers available without any difference (also tried different setting: -Prefer max performance...), Gaming mode and performance (power settings) but still same problem.
The in game settings are not too high i believe, everything maxed except tesselation=off (unplayable if activated).
A similar problem is occured with Crysis 3 (most settings to ultra) but the lag doesn't happen too often.
Did any of you experience the same thing ? Any solutions ?

 

I tried throttlestop, i guess if i was doing it right ( clock modulation, chip modulation and multiplier was set to turbo ) ticked all 3, but CPU is still downclocking.
is this an EC related issue?
i dont know what to do

 

Hmmmm, the creator of throttlestop is around these forums if I remember correctly. I forgot which settings you have to put but if it's not working for you.... hmmm which version are you using? I remember using it with my 1762 barebone and it worked, I think it was version 5?

Any previous GT70 or barebone users remember the settings of throttlestop to fix the CPU throttling?

 

5.00, i tried all 3 options but it still downclocked to 1.2 ghz

 

Dude. Kill it. Start from scratch. And I mean scratch. Just a clean windows install and drivers. THATS IT. Dont even connect to the internet. Have everything ready beforehand on disk or external HDD. You need to eliminate if its software FIRST. It would be a shame if you lost another few days on this when all it was was a software hiccup.

 

Im ready to give it a go as you said
Just wanted to ask if i dual boot and install another windows 7, will that be considered 'from scratch'?
im just asking because if that doesn't solve my problem, i can always return to my current windows 7 and not waste everything i put into it ?
should i flash default vbios before doing that if you believe that's affecting anything in any way

 

Try turning on V-Sync and triple buffer. Might stop the micro stutters. Its worth a shot!

 

At this point if that doesnt fix the issue then its time to RMA it! A fresh install of window with all the proper drivers should not exhibit these symptoms. By kill i mean format it. Re-install windows and drivers. No online, no anitivirus, nothing. Just fresh install and start benching away. See if the same thing happens. I would say a steam install is ok to test a problem game. but thats it!

 

That is the problem i can't RMA it because im not in USA, i had someone brought it here for me to pakistan, now if i even try to ship it back and then pay both way shipping, it alone may cost 500$. if i had that much i would do it to save 1500$ but i can't..
I have to solve this myself or live with this stuttering. more like a waste of 1500 but i will try whatever i can before giving up on this totally. i wish i bought this from gentech considering Ken really is helpful in such situations.

my EC/BIOS is kind of latest, so it probably cant be that problem which early GT70 users faced, although its exactly like that but there is no fix for us barebone users.
ill perform a clean install then though im not expecting it to solve my problem since its more like a EC/BIOS related issue and there are literally no pages over the internet providing them.

Im annoyed because im new to such advanced things like EC/BIOS or vBios or all this. If you guys weren't already i would be stuck at overheating i faced when i received this. Thanks to ryzeki for telling me how to paste and be confident about it, and to meaker and him that i know its my CPU throttling. and to you for atleast telling me to perform clean installation, means alot. im kind of giving up on this since there is no support for barebones and XoticPC takes years to reply and they dont even care that they promised IC diamond while ordering and what my notebook came with was a thermal pad on GPU and when i email about it, they don't even reply or totally ignore to discuss it.

Anyways i will give this a go and if anyone knows how to contact MSI ( i got to that form but i can't find barebone in product list ) please tell

 

Looks like the 770M will go into the 16F2 and 16F4 (obviously) but not the 16F3.

 

Dont worry mate we are all here to help. Even at worst case we can try finding you a solution that works and lets you play your games at full performance.

I will help you check with msi too.

 

Captmario send me your email via PM to send you the win7 and win 8 EC and BIOS, make sure you try a full fresh install of windows too to ensure everything working.

 

All these extra controls with haswell are a lot of fun

 

Someone knows if its possible to install a 120HZ TN panel on the MS-1763 barebone?

 

I just installed windows 8 and SCM software is not working properly, i mean CD eject button is not working, and SCM says my display is off while its on, and if i turn it on, it goes off ( so the button is not working either )

Any suggestions?

 

Did you download the scm for machines with a windows 7 bios (bios matters, not os).