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    Ideapad Yoga?

    Discussion in 'Lenovo' started by quickrabbit5, Jan 23, 2012.

  1. nramprabhu1

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    Hi dan76 , What is your model & order date ? I orderd i7/8GB/128 GB on 11/1 , My delivery date is still showing 01/02/2013 .
     
  2. dan76

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    I ordered the i5/8gb/128 on 10/25. Model #59343898. Maybe it's the i7 that's holding your order up?

    I'm glad I cancelled and found one at my local BestBuy... the Yoga is amazing, I really love it! And I just received my 8gb stick and 128gb ssd to add! Haven't had the time or guts to open it up yet though...
     
  3. nramprabhu1

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    After posting the above message , Just checked the lenovo.com status . Holy !@#$% , My order got updated. Ship date is tomorrow . And estimated Delivery Date is 11/21.

    So guys , whoever ordered from lenovo.com , around 11/1 , Please check your order status.
     
  4. Don1

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    Ate you saying it's possible to add a second SSD to this? Maybe I would overlook the lack of a backlit KB if that is true.
     
  5. dan76

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    Yes. I know this is a long thread, but we've covered this extensively here already.

    Wonderful that we have a slot for drive #2. It makes me think the mobo does have some sort of RAID controller and the 256gb models (if they ever get released) will have two 128gb SSDs. I guess we won't know until they eventually ship.
     
  6. Dayton

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    Should be able to pick up a BB unit in a few hours. Checked BB stock this morning and they were available for pickup at my nearest BB, so went for it. Really don't want to lug my SXPS 16 around next week and so couldn't resist even though it isn't my desired config. Thinking about it though it should be more than capable for my intended purpose, will definitely need to redo the partitioning and reclaim disk space however.

    Is the sleeve available yet?
     
  7. dan76

    dan76 Notebook Evangelist

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    I went on a whim and bought a neoprene cover off of eBay... Turns out it fits about perfectly and is pretty cheap too, at under $5 with shipping included...
    Black Sleeve Case Bag Pouch Cover for 13 inch 13 3" MacBook Pro Notebook Laptop | eBay
     
  9. dan76

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    Awesome, thanks for the link just added the sleeve to be picked up along with the Yoga at my local BB.
     
  11. dan76

    dan76 Notebook Evangelist

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    As someone who also wanted the orange one, you'll still be glad you bought this one. The silver/grey is nice and the black inside is really great. Most of all, the machine is just amazing, you'll be glad to have one and not wait any longer! You do have 30 days return from BB though, so if they release other models in that time, just swap it out.
     
  12. djklmnop

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    Argh! The paint is starting to chip off :( Top left corner (left hinge). It's very small, but in reading the lenovo's forum, others are experiencing this too. I'm gonna put some nail polish clear coat over the exposed area to protect it and hopefully stop the chip from spreading.
     
  13. dan76

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    I've heard others say this too, but mine is still 100% perfect. Could you post a pic?
     
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  15. Dayton

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    Reviews have been so positive I just couldn't wait any longer, and really this config should do what I want and in the end will probably save me some money. Though I will probably keep an eye out during the 30 day window.

    You can purchase Lenovo Accidental Damage Protection even though it is a purchase from a brick and mortar?, I would assume yes.
     
  16. Don1

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    Yeah, I bought one the first day BB had them and then returned it the next day because I just couldn't stand not having a backlit keyboard in this day and age. Didn't follow the thread for awhile and then just decided to check it again and noticed your comment about ordering a 128 SSD.
     
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    Any chance of the Yoga getting a discount for Black Friday?
     
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    It's a flap. It is very secure.... Meaning the yoga won't come out and I have carried it in my bag, etc with it on and it works great to keep it looking good. The flap itself isn't super hard to open. The neoprene stretches just a little bit as to allow it to open. Overall I'm super satisfied with it... Especially for the 5 bucks...
    Does anyone have a screen protector on there's? I've been trying to decide if I need one or not... Any suggestions??
     
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    I ordered one from Lenovo and it has shipped already. Couldn't find it in any stores.
     
  21. Dayton

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    Just picked my Yoga up and wow is this thing sweet, very early of course. A co-worker walked by as I was setting it up and they were blown away, apparently not aware of the Win 8 commercials. I also got the sleeve, it is elegant but the hinges and the back of the Yoga are left exposed. So there is potential for it to knock around and get the chipping that some are experiencing.

    But of course this only makes sense for the sleeve as it is also meant to be used in tablet mode.
     
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    Just received my Yoga last night and am loving the amazing screen. The keyboard is strictly very "meh" in my opinion (coming from a Lenovo V570 and a MacBook Air). It's mushy, soft, springy...yuck. I prefer keyboards that have crisp feedback to them and solid confident action.

    Anyway, one thing that is driving me crazy about the keyboard on mine is that the upper right-hand corner of the keyboard seems to especially soft, and when I press the minus, plus, or the function keys in the top right-hand corner I hear a sound...kind of like a click/clank/clunk/tapping on metal sound. This is in contrast to the silence of the rest of the keyboard. It's basically the plus, minus, and F9--F12 keys.

    Anyone else experiencing this with the keyboards of their Yogas? And if anyone has managed to resolve the issue, how? Does it get better with time? Or worse?
     
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    Interesting. I thought I was the only one unimpressed with the keyboard, coming from a ThinkPad.
     
  25. swenpro

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    Congrats, Dayton. Hope you like it! I'm still holding out to see how the XPS 12 fairs, otherwise it looks like Yoga is the route to go.
     
  26. Dayton

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    Right off the bat you can see why the Yoga has become the poster child for Windows 8 laptops, just has a cool wow factor. Now then it comes down to use which I'm in the very early stages of. Positives, awesome screen and admirable performance as a tablet considering it is really an ultrabook. Negatives, keyboard is just okay as it is definitely of the ultra thin variety and no 5GHz wifi (yikes didn't know that).
     
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    Same thing here. Here is another thread on this issue:
    Yoga 13 Loose Keyboard - Lenovo Community
     
  28. djklmnop

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    Yep! Sounds about right. The keys are a bit smaller than a full size keyboard. I'm used to the X220 Thinkpad keys and they are heaven to use. As well as the Dell Vostro V131.

    I had owned the Lenovo Twist for a few weeks and ended up returning it because of the short battery life, but I'm finding that I am not far from a power jack most of the time. Given that black friday is coming up and Staples is selling it for $699, I might pick it up again as a productivity laptop. The keyboard on it is fantastic and the closest thing to an X230 thinkpad.

    By the way, in a few weeks I'll be upgrading my SSD drive and I ordered some sekisui tape for the keyboard. I'll be sure to document the process and put it into a walkthrough PDF. I create walkthroughs and training materials as a small part of my job, so it shouldn't be too difficult to do.
     
  29. jrhamilt

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    Received my 256GB drive and 8GB ram from Crucial today. Stole the screw needed from another laptop. Here are my thoughts:
    1) Replacing the memory is crazy easy. However, I did think I was still stuck to the tape when I was catching on the hooks, and I bend one of the hooks on the bezel a little. Bent back nicely with a little finesse, and no issues resulted.

    2) Removing the keyboard bezel was more of an adventure. The screws on the bottom are T5 Torq (I think somebody asked what size earlier). The cables are really quite delicate - TAKE YOUR TIME! Funky little design, but I think it's effective.

    3) Reassembly was a snap. Very quick and easy. Hardest part was getting the keyboard ribbon cable back seated correctly. Almost need another set of hands. The hint is to set the keyboad "keys down" on the touchpad area, and connect the ribbon from there.

    4) Software recognized everything on boot, and it was simple to format and add the Hard Drive. From a drive perspective, all I did was take the stock D:\ and combine it with the C:\ resulting in an 88.9GB drive. Adding the 256GB leaves 238GB of available space after formatting and such. No problems at all with the RAM. It just slots right in, no install, no nothing.

    All in all, difficult upgrade from a patience perspective, but not really all that hard. Worst part (I think) is finding the screw. My local computer part store yesterday said they would give me one. Whoever was there today wasn't playing nice. Good thing I don't need the Bluetooth card in my old laptop anymore ;)

    And that's that!
     
  30. Don1

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    You can't possibly expect an ultrabook to have a similar kb to a think pad, it's impossible.
     
  31. Dayton

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    Yup it is a sleek Ideapad and not a Thinkpad. I'm okay with the keyboard, only struggling with the small key size of the Backspace and especially the Right-Shift but in time I'm sure I will adapt.
     
  32. djklmnop

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    Sure you can. The only reason they're not is because they decided to have a bigass touchpad that they have to work the keyboard around. I rather have a smaller (3/4 the size of the Yoga) touchpad and a more fully expanded keyboard.
     
  33. Dayton

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    I would say that the keyboard being on the back and exposed during tablet mode had a lot more to do with it's design, at least as the need to be shallow and thin. You are probably right when it comes to the small Backspace and R-Shift but I kind of like the over sized touchpad.
     
  34. dennya

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    I have an 8GB memory DIMM and a 256GB SSD coming from Crucial this week to put in my Yoga 13, after reading reports of folks successfully installing both. There's a YouTube video on the RAM -- that part looks super-easy -- but getting to the second SSD slot requires a lot more disassembly. And that's the part that concerns me.

    Specifically, the keyboard ribbon cable. I've upgraded a number of notebooks over the years, and the ONLY time I ever damaged one was breaking the little device that holds the keyboard ribbon cable down. (The part that pops up broke off.) So for future upgrades/repairs, I've always just left the ribbon cable connected, out of paranoia from that bad experience 8-10 years ago.

    Doesn't look like that's an option with this SSD upgrade. So just want to clarify: What is the proper procedure for carefully opening one of those to release the ribbon cable? Any tips would be appreciated. (I don't guess it's workable to leave the ribbon cable connected?)

    I haven't seen a step-by-step guide to doing this upgrade, so I'll take pics as I do mine, unless someone can point me to an article or video that covers it?

    Thanks!
     
  35. rkurata

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    I agree, it would help if someone could post a step by step of how they changed out the SSD. I have read the manual, but it's not very detailed.
     
  36. ryanjn

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    I was going to put together a simple DIY for servicing the components underneath the keyboard, but the Lenovo service guide already does a good job of explaining what you need to do.

    Lenovo's guide: http://download.lenovo.com/consumer/mobiles_pub/ideapad_yoga13_hmm_1st_edition_oct_2012_english.pdf

    For access, remove these FRUs in order:
    • “1010 Keyboard” on page 33
    • “1020 Keyboard bezel” on page 35
    • “1030 Battery pack” on page 37

    For removing the keyboard, do yourself a favor and obtain a guitar pick or something otherwise small (thin) and plastic. Start by the delete key and pry the keyboard forward. Move from right to left and gradually work the keyboard free from the double-sided tape that’s holding it down.

    The trackpad and keyboard ribbon cables are both held down to the mainboard with hinged retaining clips. Using the same thin object used to lift the keyboard up, carefully lift the retaining clips up (vertical) and then slide the ribbons free.

    The power cable is the only cable I can imagine someone tearing. Do not yank the power cable from the mainboard by its cord. "Push" the connector away from its socket. Take that handy-dandy guitar pick or whatever thin object you've been using, identify where the connector meets the socket and push it away.

    For anyone SOL without the extra screw to hold down their second mini-PCIE card (SSD or whatever you've installed), you could temporarily "borrow" one of two the 2.0 × 3 mm screws from the keyboard bezel. It's easier then to just remove the keyboard and replace the screw once once becomes available to you. I did this out of necessity, as I performed the upgrade in a hotel and did not plan ahead. Definitely not a suggested permanent solution.
     
  37. kamiln

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    I am thinking about buying a IdeaPad Yoga 13 but I have a few question.
    1. What about noise? During daily tasks like browsing and typing is the laptop quite ? I like silence, so my room is quite.
    2. I know that yoga has only 1 ram slot, so we can install max 8gb ram right? or 16 gb? is 8gb enough for daily tasks and watching full hd movie on external monitor while browsing ?
    3. Is touch ? I hear a few bad opinions about it.
    4. What about screen ? Touch works good? are gestures easy to use?
    5. Battery - how long it last during browsing(via wifi) and typing with brightness at 25%?
     
  38. rkurata

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    Thanks for the tips! I'll keep them in mind when I change mine out.
     
  39. netscorer

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    Thanks for the tips. My concern was that Lenovo says that screws holding the bezel down are one time use only with Nylon thread. So did you reuse yours (that's what it sounds like)? And can I use pretty much any SSD or there are physical constraints for the slot inside?

    Also for all those non-guitar players, a credit card or any plastic card works just as well as a guitar pick. And, I might regretfully add, it is easier to obtain for a regular Joe.
     
  40. netscorer

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    1. The noise is there - and it is constant from the moment you boot up and all the time that you are using your laptop. It is more like a white noise - not very intrusive, but if you a not used to it, it may be bothering you. Unfortunately, technology is not there yet to provide fanless ultrabooks with powerful components inside. Some criticize Lenovo for a too aggressive use of fans on Yoga and I would personally prefer fans to only kick in when I am doing something demanding, not simply browse the web. I'll wait and see if Lenovo will update their internal fan driver.
    2. 8gb is the max memory you can install. It is more then enough for what you are asking. In fact, I would state that 4GB would also be more then enough for daily tasks. You really need more memory only if you are an extreme multitasker (having 10+ programs open at the same time), or use very demanding software (batch photo editing, video editing, demanding game).
    3. I don't quite get your third question. Touchpad is fine. You have very decent touchpad - it is big, sensitive and accepts all Windows 8 gestures (yes, even four finger gestures). Some criticize it for being too big but they are really ignorant. Windows 8 gestures require a lot of space and big touchpad also means that you can drag your items from across the screen with single movement. Try to do that on crammy small touchpad.
    4. Screen is excellent. Lenovo really put a quality (and expensive) IPS 10 simultaneous touch panel on this baby and it is certainly number one attraction. And I really like the 1600x900 resolution. It is perfect for this screen size. On a 14'' screens and bigger I would want to go for 1080p, but anything smaller and your 1080p really goes to waste most of the time plus folks with not 20-20 eyesight may struggle seeing small fonts.
    5. I did not measure battery with screen at 25% - you can only use that brightness in a dark room, otherwise it is not workable. I actually prefer to run my display at or close to 100% most of the time, even on battery. Speaking of battery, it is not very impressive. You will be lucky to get 5 hours on Wi-Fi and working on the document, probably even less. This is one aspect that is disappointing. It may be because of multi-touch screeen which is active all the time or, simply because of bad Lenovo power design (like those fans that are on 100% of the time)
     
  41. dennya

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    Successfully upgraded my RAM tonight to 8gb, but when I went to install the SSD, it turned out that none of my enormous assortment of torx screwdriver heads would work -- the one I had that was small enough wasn't the right torx type. Got the keyboard back together and the RAM works, at least!

    So, the question for y'all is: What kind of screwdriver do I need to remove the bottom screws? Hopefully it's something I can get at the hardware store and not have to go all the way to Fry's....

    Thanks!
     
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    Thanks for yours anserws :) I also think that funs running constantly is better than fans which start working from time to time.

    Is battery so bad? I read a few reviews and they achieve something around 5 hours.

    Lenovo IdeaPad Yoga 13 review -- Engadget
    Lenovo IdeaPad Yoga 13 Review - Notebook Reviews by MobileTechReview
    Review Lenovo IdeaPad Yoga 13 Ultrabook - Notebookcheck.net Reviews
     
  44. dennya

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    RE: The battery... I think he's seeing shorter life because he has the screen cranked to 100%. I'm getting about 6.5 hours with it at about 70%.

    The only reference I could find to the screw size on the bottom of the unit was a review that called the Torx T5s, but it didn't sound like he actually opened his unit, so it'd be super-awesome if someone can confirm before I head to the hardware store tomorrow. :)
     
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    What about fan noise? In your opinion is it irritating? And a daily performance is good?

    Wysyane z mojego Nexus 7 za pomoc Tapatalk 2
     
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    New version here :)
     
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    Can we reformat the whole ssd disk without missing any features?
     
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    I think you would have to be really picky for it to be a bother, for me not close to irritating.
     
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    What is the size of the 10 Torx Screws required to be removed from the back of the Yoga 13? Does someone have a link to a recommended Torx Screwdriver?

    Thanks.
     
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