Ideapad Y510P

Question about the ultrabay problems. It seems like it only occurs if you buy the single GPU version and then pick up the ultrabay GPU separately?
So there shouldn't be any problems if you pick up the model with the two GPUs already installed?

Also, does the thing that the AW18 do with their GPUs (disabling both cards and then manually selecting the iGPU) work here or do you still need to remove the second card?

 

Sadly you need to remove the card

 

There shouldn't be any problems for the version with the two GPUs already installed, although updating to Windows 8.1 means you've got to reinstall some drivers because it won't recognize the GPU in the ultrabay (at least that was the case for me).

In terms of disabling your GPUs manually, from what I know and have researched, this isn't possible on the y510p unless you physically remove the ultrabay GPU, which sucks because removing your GPU every time you want to use the iGPU seems like dangerous business to me.

 

Hi All, I just received my Lenovo y510 755m SLI a few days ago and after uninstalling some bloat ware and installing new drivers/games I found a few points that may or may not be an issue:

1) Dota 2 gaming session w/o laptop cooler: CPU 85 degrees max, first GPU 75 degrees, Ultrabay GPU 90 degrees. Is it possible to switch out the fan in the ultra bay GPU? I compared the onboard GPU/CPU vs the ultra bay GPU and i feel that the ultrabay GPU has about half as much air being pushed out. And upon inspecting the intake hole for the ultrabay GPU, there's only about the size of 1"x 1.5" opening...
-I am using a laptop cooler now and CPU dropped to 81 degrees, ultrabay drops to 83 degrees. Both still too high IMO.
-I am thinking about using the dust removal program every time I start a game but i don't want to put additional wear on the fans.

2) The wifi downloads games at regular 3mb/s when im beside the router, but when i move to the kitchen which is about 10' away (and across the wall), it drops down to like 200 kb/s... Is this suppose to work that way?

 

Ah that's unfortunate. Can't even disable the GPUs.

And has there been any problems with the ultrabay if you remove it and then replace it later on?

Or say I get the ultrabay DVD dirve (or even just the bezel cover) and then replace it later on (say, if I wanted to go to class, where I don't do anything requiring the dedicated GPU and use the iGPU)?

 

Maybe you had better read this thread::rolleyes2:

http://forum.notebookreview.com/networking-wireless/716325-intel-7260-a-28.html

 

I've removed and replaced the ultrabay drive and turned SLI on and off several times and have had no issues at all. Although, I can't say what adding the dvd drive would do since I use an external one.

Where can you get just the plain bezel cover if I may ask?

 

Thanks for the link. I haven't read the whole discussion but it appeared to be driver related issue.

Anyway, I think my comment stll stands. WIFI performance wise, Y510p with 7260 appeared to be more reliable than Y510p with 2230. If I were to buy a new Y510p, I would definitely avoid 2230 and go for 7260'

 

That's a shame. The boxing week sale direct from Lenovo was 1100 and came with dual 755m's and a 24gb SSD.

 

Ok. This I find strange. Everyone in here is saying that both their tours run hot when loaded. Meanwhile mine barely break 65'C regardless of how far I stress them. Thing is I actually use the stands that the unit came with. (The ones that the packaging turn into). That provides the venting with full 100% clear airflow. Coolers still have grilles and such that inhibit airflow and forced air coolers can just cause chaos with the natural airflow the unit wants to use. Just a thought

 

You're very far from stressing it real.

 

Ultrabay fan has smaller diameter than cpu fan. And it is thinner as well.
Tried to hack in an y500 fan, but serious chassis modding is needed, because the fan is just as thick as the ultrabay itself. Not impossible, but hard to do.

Intake of ultrabay however can be modded easily:
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I keep reading that every where, but I am in Canada so maybe we had a different sale? For us during boxing week the top of the line y510p was 8gb of ram without SLI. I swear I must've checked at least 100 times. Either way, super happy with the laptop, can't be too picky now can we

 

I'm getting really close to pulling the trigger on buying a Y510p (I'm tempted to wait for the Y50 but don't think I can wait until May), but I'm torn over which option I'm going to go with. I do know that I'm not going to buy the SLI model due mainly to price. For $859, I can either get the single GPU with a 755M and 7260 wireless card or with a 750M, 2230 wireless card, and a 24 GB SSD. I know the GPU and wireless card are significantly better on the first one, so that is what I am leaning toward, but I am pretty annoyed that it doesn't come with a SSD.

 

If you buy the one without the SSD then it might not have the connector on the board and you are stuck with the 2.5 drive bay only. Get the one with the SSD if you can so you can upgrade in the future.

 

Agreed, the 755m isn't exactly a "significant" upgrade over the 750m, although the 7260 wireless card is a safer card compared to the 2230. I'd go with the opportunity to have the connector to add an extra SSD in the future, unless you don't think you will ever go that route and only need the 2.5 drive bay. Although, since you aren't going with SLI, you could always put your main drive into the ultra bay and add an SSD to the main bay, just a thought.

 

Holy crap did you hack out the bottom of your laptop? what tool did you use? looks like you made it 2x bigger, did it drop the temps?

 

I bought my y510p on boxing day for 1250 all in (Alberta taxes are 5%).

 

Did you get the 755m sli with 16gb ram and 24gb ssd? I was over seas at the time, but I checked the Canadian Lenovo website and didn't see that model.

 

Remove the bottom metal grid carefully, because the little tabs can break of easily.
Use a dremel, and cut the plastic. Left as many width, as the non-hole side of the metal grid, so it can hold it.
On the top left of the picture you can see, how wide was the original plastic, and it was on the bottom too.
If its not enough, remove dust filter, or/and cut into chassis itself. Compare it with your own, you can spot the differences easily.

Regular load temps dropped nicely, more than 2 times bigger intake hole for ultrabay. ( i cant understand the original design.... )
However, when you load it constantly over 90%, where heatsink and fan is not enough, temps will rise, but slower.

 

Has anyone had their y510p screen black out for a second or two, then come back? Mine (an SLI model, 750m) has had it happen twice over the past few weeks. I'll be using the machine, with a second monitor connected with HDMI, and out of nowhere both screens will black out for a second or two, and then come back online. I only had chrome and spotify open, so nothing intensive. I'm on the current nvidia drivers as well as 8.1. It happened to be once before, I believe with a different driver version.

 

yep all that good stuff
It was advertised for $1189. and then after taxes it was 1250$. Did you click on the right arrow to show more models?

 

No I didn't ahhh!!! I didn't even notice it because I was checking on my phone. I'm already past the two weeks to return a product at tigerdirect.ca too. Ah well, not much I could do now I guess.

Also, wanna put an SSD in this thing. Crucial has their M500 series on sale on amazon and 240gb is for $150. Kinda hard to pass that up, but was curious if I should look around for a Samsung EVO instead?

Thanks

 

I actually found that the 5400rpm + SSD cache to work surprisingly fast. Windows boots up under 30 seconds and programs aren't too bad either.
Games take a little time but I don't mind the load, gives me time to get ready..

Instead of buying a SSD, I went and bought a 4tb external HD, I plan to put movies/music/photos in there.

 

Okay, that a least makes me feel more comfortable.
I thought I saw something for it a while back but it doesn't seem like there is one (which I find a bit odd since a lot of places sell the caddies and stuff but require you to get a faceplate)
Anyway, you can just pick up a cheap HDD caddy like this (hopefully I'm allowed to post links) :
9 5mm SATA 2nd Hard Drive Disk HDD Caddy Adapter for Lenovo IdeaPad Y510P Y510PT | eBay

Cheap enough in my opinion.

Has anyone had any problems with the SLI if they bought an SLI version then put in a DVD or HDD caddy and then put the 2nd GPU again?

 

To be honest, I am considering just leaving the 1 TB plus 8gb cache for now too. I removed some bloatware and things from start up that I didn't need and it boots in around 10 seconds.... which is surprisingly fast. Maybe I'll buy an SSD a year down the road. Just hard to resist a good sale hahaha.

On a side note, I opened mine up today and as suspected am missing the NGFF connector. Its weird because the solder points are tinned and everything, really makes you think how much money they actually saved per unit and if it was worth all the upset customers .

 

Lately during gaming, processor has been turboing to only 2.4GHz even though it's set for much higher (29x). During gaming only 1 core is being used.

GPU temp: 58
CPU temp 65

Is this known as "throttling" or something very similar? I remember undervolting solved this problem, i'm not sure why it's coming back. Maybe because I upped the graphics settings a bit and GPU is working harder...

Either way, can someone explain what are my options? Throttlestop? Frankly, I don't understand why it just doesn't use another core. But then again I have no idea what I'm talking about.

 

My Google Chrome keeps going blank white and i need to restart it. Pretty sure this is caused by the Nvidia 332.21 update.

Im hoping Nvidia fixes this in the next update.

Anybody else having this issue? Were you able to fix it anyway?

 

@cliffB got the same problem..but couldnt find any other fix than reloading page in another tab

 

I'm on 322.21 and dont have that problem. I also turned off hardware acceleration in chrome which doesnt seem to have any negative side effects, but it does reduce temperatures/GPU usage a little bit.

 

Hi guys and gals,

I am looking forward to buy this notebook and have a few questions.

Just to give some background information: I am an owner of a non unibody 2008 macbook that has been a good machine to me, but it is time for me to replace it.

My budget is around 1000 Euros.

For this money, I can get myself an Acer V3, an Ideapad Y510p, or a Schenker XMG A723.

Out of all three, the ideapad is the most appealing. I like the materials used in this machine, the screen is decent enough, the speakers are a good bonus and, obviously, the 750m sli is the main selling point for me.

The pluses aside, I have some concerns:

1)Does it get awfully hot? My macbook, after I repasted with a prolimatech pk3 and set it on a cooling pad runs like a boss and I can even overclock the old 8600m with temps staying safely under 70C.

I want to know how bad is the cooling on the Y510p. Is the chassis capable of keeping the hardware cool with a repaste and a decent cooling pad or do we have a general consensus that the chassis struggles to keep that i7 and the dual 750m's cool?

2) Theoretically, dual 750m offers up to 46% more speed than a single 765m offered in the Schenker XMG A723. But how much trouble do you have with stuttering, drivers when running the Y510p in sli?

I mainly play League of Legends, but I like playing other very demanding games from time to time - Dead Island, Uncharted, etc. Ideally, I want to keep this laptop for another 4-5 years, and I want to make sure I can keep playing games while gradually reducing the graphics settings.

For example, on my mac with the 8600gt I can still play dead island on minimum. This is a 5 year old notebook with core2duo.

Do you reckon the Y510p will be able to offer the same in 4-5 years from now with the dual 750m? Or will the drivers be such a problem that the single 765m is actually a better option in the long run?

Sorry for the convulated questions. My concern is basically this: is the Y510p a laptop I can keep for 4-5 years while gradually reducing my demand on it with regards to the latest games and it's general performance? Is the chassis efficient enough to withstand such a long period of use?

Thanks for any replies to this.

 

The y510p is a great laptop especially for its price. However, build quality is a hit or miss. I used to have a y500, and temperatures (out of the box) would easily hit 97C for GPU causing it to throttle and CPU would also get pretty hot and hit 99C in BF4. Others with the same laptop would have temps that would stay in the 80s or 70s. With my y510p, my temps are fine and the temps stay in the 70s during gaming, so the chassis is good enough for cooling. The Haswell CPU also allows for undervolting and eventually someone may mod the BIOS to undervolt the video card if temperatures area a big concern. Now the ulrabay video card may also vary on temperatures. A few people on the forums have complained of the ultrabay video card getting very hot, but I've also heard of people with relatively cool ultrabays. At least theres warranty.

In terms of drivers, nvidia handles the drivers for the video cards and they genereally do a good job keeping older cards up to date. And since they are from the same architecture (kepler) there probably any performance fluctuation between the 765 and dual 750m. Also, if anything, SLI may be further developed.

 

Thank you, this is insightful. I am really ready to jump the gun on this and have the order on lenovo.de ready to check out. 1250 Euros with 3 year extended warranty.

BUT! THreads like this one , or this, and this onel all point to a design problem with the ultrabay. Is this normal? We seem to have so many y510p users here, hasn't anybody done a questionnaire on the overheating of the ultrabay?

Don't get me wrong, 3 year warranty is nice. But I want this thing for 4-5 years

 

Don't expect to play anything on high settings in 4-5 years.

I can't comment on Ultrabay overheating.

 

Ok, I know I post here a lot...but this one has me puzzled.

Nothing running except XTU, processor frequency max at 2.89 (puttingsettings to default just makes it hotter and at 3.29. Temps rising from 50-60 now. This has been going on for 30 minutes. I understand background processes but this is ridiculous. 1 active core, maxed frequency, CPU utilization only at 13-15%.

Was advised to check processes in task manager:

CPU 17%: Windows Wireless LAN 802.11 Extensibility Frameowork (17%) Nothing else really taking up more than 1%.... what on earth is going on?!
Memory 42%: firefox and xtu taking up most of this.

Unplugging from power made it drop temporarily, then it came back up to max frequency...

Results confirmed in realtemp as well.

 

Yeah its really annoying.

I'v googled it and found a few ppl mentioning the same issue on the nvidia site. I wonder if the real problem lies with nvidia or google chrome?

 

I turned off hardware acceleration in chrome and haven't experienced the problem since then..try it yourself

@Ligr my ultrabay runs up to 95 degrees C when running assasins creed 4 and guildwars 2 FHD on ultra. I'm probably going to repaste it as some people suggested but I don't think anyone posted any results before/after so im not sure how much will it help..also someone already tried modding the case for better air intake..which ofc voids the warranty.

 

Thank you for this input, McMik. This is very troublesome. I know hardware is supposed to "be okay" with such high temps, but this really is not acceptable in the long term.

So far, this forum thread explains the issue at it's best: the y510p platform was designed to handle 650m GPUs just fine. The 750m in the ultraday simply does not get enough cooling power and is forced to run at 95C and throttle down.

That thread poster did post very sane ideas:

1) Allow users to turn the fan up to the max speed on the ultrabay. Apparently, lenovo does not allow users to set the fan to maximum - only in dust cleaning mode. This is very regrettable.

2)Get a cooling pad to force more cold air for the fan to work with.

3)Repaste - which apparently just akes the card get warm slower, but doesn't solve the issue by itself.

Has anybody tested any of those here?

 

Played an hour of BF4 last night on the 755m sli, and the ultrabay temps went up to 95ish.
This is with the notepal U3 cooler. the fan on the ultrabay gpu is not fast enough, im thinking of running dust removal program during Bf4 sessions.

 

http://forum.notebookreview.com/ideapad-essential/734442-y500-y510p-spring-mod-spacer-guide.html#post9404277
http://forum.notebookreview.com/ideapad-essential/741396-y510p-ultrabay-gpu-97c-idle-temp.html#post9530773
Check these links, this is what you can do.
After these mods, I'm able to run Borderlands 2 @1200Mhz gpu speed around 75-80C
For example in Serious Sam3, where GPU load is higher, ultrabay goes up to 90, where I set the throttling temp, and it downvolts form 1.1 to 1.06 and to 1150Mhz and stable 90C. When load drops, so are the temps, and gpu speed rises back up.
However fan speed increase would be good, but don't expect too much from Lenovo...

 

Actually, the spacer mod is pretty easy to pull off - one way to bring down the temps to 80C according to at least two forum members. Nice!


However, this surely voids the warranty in the process? I was thinking of getting the y510p with the extended 3 year warranty.

Would you mind trying that out and see if it improves the temps? Might be a nice solution to run as long as the notebook is on warranty.

 

Definitely warranty unfriendly solutions, almost all of them.
You can try to remove bottom door, and put it on a cooler pad. Warranty sticker is under the keyboard, so that can be done without voiding.
And you can carefully disassemble ultrabay, since it has no sticker.

 

Oh, good news! Really itching to order now that I have this info.

 

Can't give any numbers on super intensive games, but playing Assassin's Creed (the original) on ultra settings with a cooling pad, both GPUs are right around 70C after about an hour of play. I play using this pad:

http://www.amazon.ca/Thermaltake-Massive23-Notebook-Oversized-CLN0015/dp/B003ZUXXWO

Did a little research before buying it and it had great reviews, not to mention the fan is massive, sits perfectly under the vent of the Y510P and is super quite. The blue LEDs are nice too hahaha. Also, I play league on ultra settings also (League doesn't support SLI btw) and the main GPU doesn't go past 60 with this setup.

Gonna try to get some numbers running something a little more intensive.

 

Excuse me the very lame picture, but here it is:

Try to blow some air through that little hole marked with red, and of course, the dust filter.
Lines in black represents the original dimension of plastic in bottom door.
No offense, but i think there is no cooling pad, which can aim that precisely.

But there is a thing( always the workarounds... ) Put some window gap foam tape on the pad, shaped and sized your laptop, so air cant escape under it, and all air is pushed into chassis. Just a thought...

 

I am using this at the moment: deep cool bamboo. It's running dual fans, should do the job.

EDIT: on a scond note, this might make it worse, since the wooden "blocks" might end up just exactly covering the small opening of the GPU

 

I would use the packaging foam, which is a stand actually, rather than that.

 

Agreed, my cooling pad doesn't hit the Ultrabay GPU directly on at all, I just meant the overall laptop in general. I'd love to try that mod if it wasn't for voiding my warranty ...

 

According to what was written above, the ultrabay GPU has no stickers/warranty labels. Thus dissasembly does not directly void the warranty. Provided you don't break anything

Though, obviously, if anything would happen to that notebook in the future, I wouldn't send it in with the modded gpu

 

OK, but this is modding of bottom door, and cutting into it, so yeah, this is voiding warranty.