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    Ideapad Y510P

    Discussion in 'Lenovo' started by MJG1492, Jun 2, 2013.

  1. CMerlin

    CMerlin Notebook Enthusiast

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    Please can somebody tell me about temps mine is getting so hot and i dont know if is normal or not... full performance 85-95c. I need to know if i must change it or not.

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  2. jpowell490

    jpowell490 Notebook Evangelist

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    CMerlin,

    Do you have it sitting on a hard surface when you play?

    What is the temp in your house/apt?

    That is pretty hot, answer those top two and we can get down to business.
     
  3. CMerlin

    CMerlin Notebook Enthusiast

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    I work on cristal table, temp of the house is about 15-20c. Im using coolerpad but doesnt help. I gonna call now to return it.

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  4. Alasjaka

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    Definitely not normal. My temperature while gaming the gpu stays around 65-70 and CPU around 69-72
     
  5. jpowell490

    jpowell490 Notebook Evangelist

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    So your house stays 59F to 68F? You must live in an igloo. I thought I kept mine cold at 70.
     
  6. CMerlin

    CMerlin Notebook Enthusiast

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    I know its cold. Sometimes is about 25c but not to mutch. I just did the label to return it. Maybe i get the same model but whit 8gb ram and 1 gpu.

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  7. d_source

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    I updated the trackpad driver to the Synaptics one (which has more settings than the standard Lenovo driver) and mine works perfectly smooth and I love it!
     
  8. d_source

    d_source Notebook Enthusiast

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    So has no one been able to extract the key from the bios? I purchased Win8.1 with this machine. I should be able to find and keep my key somewhere in case this machine dies or something.
     
  9. Varroa

    Varroa Notebook Consultant

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    You can find the key in the bios.
     
  10. jpowell490

    jpowell490 Notebook Evangelist

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    Main issue I am having right now is the ultrabay temps. I repasted as soon as I got it yesterday. Playing BF4 it is going to 97C and then it crashes the game.

    The CPU and main GPU are running perfectly fine at 80C. I have a very nice cooling pad and used the best paste on the market, the IC Diamond.
     
  11. conscriptvirus

    conscriptvirus Notebook Evangelist

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    That should not be normal. I think in another thread you said it had really high idle temps as well. I'm guessing there is poor contact between the heatsink and GPU so for now, try adding more thermal compound than you would normally. Then contact lenovo and see if they can replace it for you.
     
  12. jpowell490

    jpowell490 Notebook Evangelist

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    Yea, I am thinking of calling them and telling them to send me a new ultrabay gpu.

    I ran BF4, for an hour just a minute ago with single GPU and temps are great on the cpu and gpu. Just the ultrabay is terribly hot. I did add more paste than normal when I did it and it still didn't help. I mean, I could open it back up and add more, but I don't think it would help it any.
     
  13. octiceps

    octiceps Nimrod

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    You still did not let us know how hot your CPU runs with ThrottleStop.
     
  14. jpowell490

    jpowell490 Notebook Evangelist

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    Opti,

    I am not familiar with throttle stop, so explain to me why it would help? Or is it just a stressing tool so you can check the temp?

    Oh, and where is the latest download? All I see is old ones for core 2.
     
  15. octiceps

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    ThrottleStop is a tool to remove the CPU performance throttling that laptop manufacturers often set. In the case of the Y510p, Turbo Boost is disengaged as soon as more than one core is loaded. This drops clock speed from what should be 3.2-3.4 GHz down to 2.4 GHz and lowers voltage, reducing performance and also reducing heat drastically. Without ThrottleStop, your CPU isn't working at its rated speed, and it's also not running as hot as it could be.

    Here are the ThrottleStop settings I use so that Turbo Boost works correctly. Make sure you click "Turn On" in the bottom-right corner.

    image.jpg

    You can read in-depth about ThrottleStop here, this is the thread visited by the author himself: http://forum.notebookreview.com/har...arket-upgrades/531329-throttlestop-guide.html

    Download of latest version is here: Downloads - The Digital HQ
     
  16. jpowell490

    jpowell490 Notebook Evangelist

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    Ok,

    I don't have a turbo option, it is 34T.
     
  17. octiceps

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    Same thing. Just check "Set Multiplier" and raise it as high as it goes.
     
  18. LaptopNoob01

    LaptopNoob01 Newbie

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    Hey,

    I am having really bad issues with my keyboard / track pad. When I type, even when I make sure to hit only the keys I intend to, my cursor will decide to start typing elsewhere on the screen or move the page entirely.

    Any ideas on a fix?
     
  19. cliffB

    cliffB Notebook Consultant

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    anybody running ArmA 3 on their y510p? How is it running?
     
  20. jpowell490

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    Laptopnoob, try updating the drivers off of Lenovo's site. I did that earlier and it helped a ton. It is very easy to hit the trackpad as you are typing, so I know exactly what you mean.

    CliffB, it will run Arma 3 with 0 issues at all. There is a Youtube video of someone running Arma 3 with the 750 single version. I ran BF4 earlier with just one 755, sli disabled and it ran smooth as butter.
     
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  21. cliffB

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    i thought it would.

    Thanks :)
     
  22. jpowell490

    jpowell490 Notebook Evangelist

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    Anytime friend :)
     
  23. rbanisch

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    Ok, I am wondering if anyone has tried swapping in the 3k IPS panel from the t540p into the y510p. I suspect it would be fine. the part number is FRU 04X4064. :/ I don't have alot of extra cash and can't gamble on an attempt. Anyone have any idea? Running at 2880x1620 would be pretty nice and sli'd 755m's should be enough horsepower for basic gaming (can always run a scaled resolution at 1440x810 in more demanding titles).
     
  24. ghoula

    ghoula Notebook Guru

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    Edit: wasn't dupe after all :)

    So, setting 34T in Throttlestop is overclocking, since 4700MQ default is 32@ 4core load.
    And turbo throttling has nothing to do with how many cores loaded. When gpu reaches 65C, EC turns off turbo.
    Since heatsink is common, even with just cpu load, vga will reach 65C eventually.
     
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    Overview:
    Y410p Removable Graphics GT750M4P is a proprietary product for IdeaPad Y410p which the highest GPU performance should be about 1.5 times than a single GPU, which users can much enjoy games.

    Is it for 410 or 510? :)
    Luckily they dont mix up 4 and 5 when it is about gpu, and we dont get accidental gt740m. :)
     
  27. Jobine

    Jobine Notebook Prophet

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    Why would they manufacture a 740M ultrabay?
     
  28. ghoula

    ghoula Notebook Guru

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    Because Lenovo can't write down a product name correctly two times in one page? :)
    They used to say good jokes don't need explanation....i let you figure it out. :p
     
  29. jpowell490

    jpowell490 Notebook Evangelist

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    The FHD screen on my 510 is outstanding. It is as good as my IPS Alienware 18, which I never thought I would see in a sub 3k laptop. It is also, easily as good as my Retina display Macbook Pro.

    I like everything about it, except that horrid ultrabay temperature.
     
  30. octiceps

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    34T is not overclocking. Have you actually used ThrottleStop? It just obeys the normal Turbo Ratio Limits, 3.4/3.3/3.2 GHz on 1/2/3-4 cores loaded. If you set 32T it won't go above 3.2 GHz even on single-core load.

    Where did you get this info about the thermal throttling behavior? Did you look inside the EC?
     
  31. ghoula

    ghoula Notebook Guru

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    As your signature says, you have Y500, have you actually tried Throttlestop with 4700MQ? It has 2 overclock bins, which means you can raise 2 on every ratio limits.
    34 multi@ 4core load IS overclocking, period.

    Yes, if you set 32 on throttlestop, it will disabe 1 and 2 core over 32, but set it on 34, and it will allow 3 and 4 core load at that speed, that is overclock.
    (you can set 36, maybe just with unlocked bios, which will allow 3,6Ghz 1core and 3,5Ghz 2 core load)

    SImple, try and learn. :)

    Load the cpu, monitor cpu and gpu temp, clock speed, when gpu reaches 65C, cpu will throttle down.
     
  32. octiceps

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    Fine, show me. Set multiplier 34T and run the TS Bench on all 8 threads and provide a screenshot of the CPU load and clock speed.
     
  33. Jobine

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    Sadly i've never seen a Y510p. I've only seen the Y500, and while it is a nice screen, it is reflective, i believe the Y510p's are matte.

    My screen is average, not amazing but not terrible. Slightly better colors than my desktop monitors, but somewhat reflective.

    Jpowell, i heard Lenovo likes to toss their parts around, it might be possible you got the W530 FHD panel, which is downright amazing, and has been seen a few Y510p's. Care to share which screen model you have?
     
  34. ghoula

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    Relax man, you dont have to be rude ;)
    Do you want proof of 3,6Ghz single core load too?

    34fullload.jpg

    FYI, 4800MQ has 4 overclock bins, do the math. :thumbsup:
     
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  35. octiceps

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    Thanks. I learned something new today.

    Where was I rude? Just because I don't put smiley faces on every line doesn't make me rude.

    BTW why are your TS Bench scores so low?

    image.jpg

    You should be faster than me considering Haswell IPC improvements and a couple hundred MHz clock speed advantage.
     
  36. ghoula

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    You are very welcome. You sounded a bit offended, english is not my native, i used wrong word, good thing is we are good.
    (Overusing of smileys just make your comments childish, good approach.)

    Dont know. Yes it should faster by a few percent, but memory is crappy 1600Mhz, CL11, probably that's why. Did some runs, this is the best i got:
    tsbench.jpg
     
  37. octiceps

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    Mine is also DDR3 1600 MHz CL11, so that's not it. You got those scores running 4 cores @ 3.4 GHz? Maybe hitting thermal or TDP limits and throttling/downclocking slightly?
     
  38. ghoula

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    Yes it was with [email protected]. Thermal limits not a problem, check those temps. It is modded a bit, temps are fine. Since bios is unlocked, TDP MSR lock is set to be unlocked, TDP is raised to 99W via XTU. Only thing cannot be changed is current limit, but this is far from current throttling.
    However, with linpack current limit is kicking in, then speed is down to 3.0. But that can be seen on every monitoring program. So in this case, TS says 3.4, then it is 3.4
    The missing advantage is a mistery. Will look into it tomorrow.
     
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  44. jpowell490

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    Sure, in just the general PC information or am I looking somewhere special?

    Editing post, I do have a FHD panel, but that was part of the package I bought. It is matte, but man, it is incredible. The id says LGD0416

    That help?
     
  45. CMerlin

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    Where you bought it?

    Sent from my GT-I9300 using Tapatalk
     
  46. jpowell490

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    Lenovo.com. Said FHD screen
     
  47. Jobine

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    Guess you don't have the W530 panel, otherwise it would contain "AUO".
     
  48. Steve_094

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    has anyone had blue screen problems with the Y510p? had to reset to factory settings twice after installing some windows updates, found out later that it could have been due to the pre-installed mcafee on it, but now im scared to update anything on it and having to install all my games on it again
     
  49. panzer06

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    No blue screens ever, however, mcafee was one of the first programs I removed.


    Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HD
     
  50. Steve_094

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    cool so i think i could feel better about it now, and quick question where should i get the driver updates for the gt 750m, windows updates or the nividia website
     
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