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    Ideapad Y510P

    Discussion in 'Lenovo' started by MJG1492, Jun 2, 2013.

  1. JDayAU

    JDayAU Newbie

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    So I got around to downloading skyrim and running the single card on High - Ultra settings everything maxed out. Not 1080

    High - Always sticks around 60 FPS - Best way to play

    Ultra - i'm averaging 40-50 FPS in the outside enviroment using FRAPS - Looks way better/plays better on this PC compared to my XBOX

    Ultra - Now the caves are a different issue, but it isn't too bad - 28-40 FPS - The caves wall sometimes stutter only for a second.
     
  2. octiceps

    octiceps Nimrod

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    That is not "really good" at all, it's dangerous. GPU throttles at 97C and the whole computer will shut down when CPU reaches 100C.
     
  3. JDayAU

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    ...edited for my lack of knowledge
     
  4. Jobine

    Jobine Notebook Prophet

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    Undervolt it a little (try -50mv) then play the game again, see if it cools down. Try to keep your CPU below 90 at all times.
     
  5. Terran1212

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    Would the keyboard get too hot and be uncomfortable if you didnt use a cooling pad?
     
  6. Jobine

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    In my experience, the keys get warm but never hot enough to be too uncomfortable. Like i said, most of the hot air is from the side vents.
     
  7. JDayAU

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    The keyboard doesnt get hot at all.
     
  8. JDayAU

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    I downloaded a new program to monitor my temps as I knew CPUs run at high degrees and 95 degrees C was laughable for gaming. Thats what this program was giving me.

    I'm just idling and my temps are 43 celsius.

    During gaming its with skyrim on high its 76C
     
  9. octiceps

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    Nobody uses Fahrenheit to report system temperatures.
     
  10. JDayAU

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    k well now i know. I edited all my posts to make up for my interpretation of assuming degrees meant Fahrenheit
     
  11. Jobine

    Jobine Notebook Prophet

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    [​IMG]
     
  12. LLStarks

    LLStarks Notebook Evangelist

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    59390951 model now has SLI on the Lenovo site

    $1200 seems pretty competitive considering the similarly priced retail models with SLI don't have the M.2 slot.
     
  13. dtmwerks

    dtmwerks Notebook Consultant

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    What's this about undervolting? I thought repasting and cooling pad were the only things I could do to help with temparture. Is this recommended for the 510p? Is there a store/retailer that I can just give my laptop to to optimize it the way you all know how? I'm in canada btw. I feel learning every little thing is going to take months. Would rather just have a professional do this.
     
  14. Varroa

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    It isn't that hard to do, I just did it with my y510p and not only did it lower temps but it also allows it to turbo longer. Where abouts in Canada are you located? I don't know of any shops that will tune your laptop but there might be members who live near you that could do it.
     
  15. dtmwerks

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    I live in vancouver Canada, but won't be back there til christmas. Working in Regina til mid december. That'd be great, I'd happily pay anyone for their services.

    Yeah I suppose it wouldn't be too hard to follow a guide, but I'm still confused about how theres no consensus of which program to use to monitor temps, and that they aren't that accurate anyway.

    Suppose it can't hurt to ask these questions.

    1) Is CPU temp almost always what we're worried about? GPU temp (graphics card) will usually be ok at stock?

    2) realtemp is only measuring CPU, I did a sensor test using prime95 as a stress test. Does this "calibrate" realtemp?

    3) Using real temp, this happens. Load up SC2 at low settings for another stress test. 1080p. I can't see realtemp unless I alt tab. after 10 minutes, Alt tab, its at 60 degrees celcius, but maximum was 86, and thermal status report "LOG" which apparently means it got too hot and it logged it. I'm not sure whats happening, did it actually get that hot, or did it just accidentally spike. I Idle at 40, I load sc2, before i even play it spikes to 60 then goes down to 40 again. So...sort of confused what happens.

    Another example: I'll play sc2 windowed so I can see both it and real temp. So i'm on sc2...60 degrees, just clicking on real temp lowers it to 54, clicking back goes back up to 60. I know that .1 second isn't enough to change heat 6 degrees.

    4) Overclocking a mobile graphics card isn't worth it too much right?

    5) Overclocking GPU raises CPU temp as well?

    6) You guys are able to play skyrim at 60fps high settings at 70 degrees?! That's amazing and that's stock...my machine will be able to do that too with a laptop cooler?

    7) If I SLI, what's this about a power brick. It won't be as simple as plug and play? Will I need to adjust some things?

    8) Is it worth it to SLI or overclock if I'm already that worried about heat?

    9) what is turbo? is that the same as overclocking?
     
  16. octiceps

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    Nobody here in 'Murica reports PC temperatures in Fahrenheit either.
     
  17. Ohfoohy

    Ohfoohy Notebook Geek

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    Still having problems with certain games. Can't play black ops at all as it's too laggy. Played TF2 last night and it was playable (little lag) but it had some weird visual problems. It's hard to explain so I'll try and get some video footage tonight.
     
  18. Jobine

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    Don't game on the battery. Also, if you upgraded to Windows 8.1, your SLI might not be working.
     
  19. Varroa

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    Intel and AMD CPUs will turbo up the speed of their processors depends on the thermal load (so yes, it is basically a built in overclocking function). The CPU in these laptops will turbo 1 core up to 3.4Ghz or all 4 up to 3.0Ghz (with a combo of cores/speed in between). This can last a short time or a long time depending on the heat load. I under volted my CPU and as a result mine can turbo much longer than it would at stock voltages. I also lowered the turbo to 3.3 Ghz for 1 core and 2.9 Ghz for all 4 cores to reduce heat and increase the duration of turbo.
     
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  20. Ohfoohy

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    I game with it plugged in and I have not upgraded to 8.1
     
  21. cliffB

    cliffB Notebook Consultant

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    I just upgraded to 8.1 today. How can I check to make sure my SLI is working ?

    *edit*

    I think this link answered my question Y410p, Y510p: SLI is not working in Win 8.1 - Lenovo Community

    I'll download the right one for my laptop when i get home.
     
  22. Jobine

    Jobine Notebook Prophet

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    What's the word on the screen type shipping on the newer units? Is it still glossy or have they returned to a matte finish screen again? The one I had was matte but it was from late July and rumor was they switched to glossy screens only around that time. Anyone purchase a Y510p in the last couple weeks that can fill me in on the type of screen they got?

    Thanks,

    Rob
     
  24. Ohfoohy

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    I recorded some gameplay,
    but it doesn't seem to appear in the video, which is weird. I'll just have to record it from my phone or something.
     
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  25. Ohfoohy

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    Okay, here's some recorded with my phone

    It's been seen in the last clip which starts at about a minute in . You can pause it at almost any time and see what I'm talking about. There's basically two of everything. (Especially if you pause when the demo man, guy with giant ax, runs across the screen) and it's like an onion skin (if you know what that is). I tried turning motion blur off and everything but that didn't do anything. It makes it very difficult to play, any ideas?
     
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  26. octiceps

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    You have SLI? Easy fix: Install latest GeForce driver. 331.58 and 331.65 both fix this.
     
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  27. ksimm

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    I really hope the Y510P comes to the UK soon. I see the Lenovo site has the Single 755m shipping in 1-2 days and the SLI version in 1-2 weeks, but I don't know if I should wait to see if any retailers pick up the SLI model for £899 as they seem to be the same price on Lenovo's site, just with less RAM.

    Oh the dilemma...
     
  28. Lizarrdo

    Lizarrdo Notebook Enthusiast

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    Does anyone know where I can buy the lenovo y510p GT 755m SLI version?

    I can only find the ones for the gt 750m sli. They may be the same card but one is clocked higher. I just don't want to risk overclocking it.
     
  29. Jobine

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    The overall difference in performance is like 5-10%. And turning a knob will not kill your system.
     
  30. BubbaRob

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    In case anyone else wants the info, I picked up another Y510p today and can confirm it has the matte finish screen. Date of manufacture on the box is 09/29/13.
     
  31. Jobine

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    Just wondering, why did you pick up another one? Did your old one fail?
     
  32. BubbaRob

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    Well........I had one, took it back for an Asus N550JV for the better IPS screen/heat control but then sold that because of the slower DDR3 GT750M and I liked the keyboard better on the Y510p. Although the Y510p blasts heat like a furnace when gaming, I feel I'm getting more bang for the buck with the SLI 750's in it. I should mention I bought the new one from a Microcenter here in Michigan today. So yeah...I have a severe addiction to buying, trying and then selling tech stuff. But..there are worse addictions to have I suppose....
     
  33. Jobine

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    Pfft. I'm addicted to online forums. Look at my join date and postcount. I'm probably NBR's most active user.

    One day I shall break my cell phone and stop posting this frequently.
     
  34. Lizarrdo

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    i've never overclocked before ;(. oh and which would u say is better for gaming - gtx 765m or a gt 750m sli
     
  35. octiceps

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    750M SLI for sure. With good SLI scaling it's even faster than GTX 770M.
     
  36. Ohfoohy

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    This worked, thanks.
     
  37. Jobine

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    750M SLI, but don't let that be your only factor when choosing a laptop.
     
  38. lao3hero

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    I think 331.58 is better than. 65. Cuz. 65 gave me less fps in FXIV on max settings..

    Sent from my HTC One using Tapatalk
     
  39. Varroa

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    A little update on my undervolting experiment. Looks like I am stable at -120mV on the CPU core and -75mV on both the cache and the iGPU. I just ran the intel stress test and it has been running for 50 min so far and temps are at 78c max. Also, my turbo is still running! I am using 32x/31x/30x/29x so all 4 cores have been running at 2.9Ghz for the entire length of the test so far, woot! I tried -125mV on the core but that caused a reboot after almost 20 mins into the test. There might be more room on the cache and iGPU but I didn't notice as much of a temp savings when undervolting those.
     
  40. Varroa

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    D'oh! It just rebooted after almost 55mins into the test. I guess I need to back of just a touch more.
     
  41. Ohfoohy

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    How much less?
     
  42. dtmwerks

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    Ok guys, based on what I read I think I know what I want to do to help my laptop

    Overclock is around 5-10% performance increase and probably around 5-10% heat increase? SLI would probably be way more than that so I don't think I want to go that option just yet. Is that correct?

    What kind of risk is there for these lenovo cards when I overclock them. Reduced life? I think I'll just be playing oblivion, sc2, dota2, bf4 so nothing too intensive. Don't think I need SLI just yet.

    Then I guess after I overclock, I would undervolt? So if I want to do these two things, overclock the card, undervolt...something, whatever it is...to help reduce the heat, how do I go about this. And guides/programs I can download? I have NEVER done anything like this or remotely close to this before... so any help is appreciated.
     
  43. Varroa

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    I don't think you can overclock AND undervolt, it is one or the other.
     
  44. dtmwerks

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    "I don't think you can overclock AND undervolt, it is one or the other. "

    Haha...well don't I feel silly. Hmm..do you know if I SLI AND undervolt...would the temp be lower than a stock single card without undervolt?
     
  45. Varroa

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    It won't be lower then a single card stock voltage combo but it will be not as high as a dual card stock voltage. Adding SLI adds anotheer 30 - 40 watts of power to your system when in use and undervolting only drops about 10 watts or so.
     
  46. Jobine

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    TDP controls are locked on this system (due to HM86). Thus, the only advantages of undervolting CPU are lowering temps and reducing throttling.
     
  47. terragady

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    Hi I am on my way to buy new laptop, I was almost convinced to clevo p150sm but I don't like noise there and sound quality, and also y510p is much cheaper. But there are few things which i will want to know, if you will be so kind to answer of course :)
    I would like to buy with SLI option.

    1. i5 or i7 processor? I heard that the difference in perfmorance is very small or nothing, and i5 will be colder?
    2. There is simply way to switch to integrated graphic card without pulling out second graphic card? Or even if I will pull second graphic card it is easy to switch to integrated? This will cause any disadvantages?
    3. Enhancing cooling system is easy to do? I mean repasting or anything else?
    3. Temperatures are high, but this only can cause uncomfortable usage or also parts will get old much faster? What temperature is for HDD? As I dont want to loose any data...
    4. What is the HDD installed? (this hybrid HDD/SDD) My old 1tb WD scorpio blue will be better? again in terms to not loose any data :)
    5. There is a way to increase fan speed? Or install different fan? How about cooling pad, it will took some temperature? (i hope not only 1-3C?)
    6. What is the size of power supply? It is that big as Clevo supplies?
    7. I am worried also about WiFi card as its crap... but with unlocked bios there is a chance to replace it with something better? Unlocking bios is recommended?
     
  48. Jobine

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    1. Depends on what you do on your laptop. For future-proofing i would go for i7.
    2. Use linux :) Dual-Boot FTW :)
    3. Repasting the main system voids your warranty. Repasting the ultrabay does not.
    3. (2) HDD stays decently cool
    4. It's a 5400RPM + 8GB drive by SeaGate.
    5. I'm no expert in cooling pads, but they do help.
    6. 170W. Smaller than Clevo but still quite large.
    7. Stock WiFi is decent, just use the right drivers. If you need to upgrade, use the modded bios and the Intel 7620. But only use the modded bios if you need it, because if you poke around with the wrong settings on the modded bios it could brick your device.
     
  49. dtmwerks

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    Ok. Undervolting only lowers power by 10 watts? For scale, how many watts does it use usually? And how much temp drops have you guys recorded?

    Any guides of how to do this specifically for y510p?
     
  50. terragady

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    thanks :) you are the most active user here haha.

    2. I do not like linux that much... but maybe liveboot from pendrive will be fine. But why do you suggesting linux? I do not get? It will increase battery life or there is possibility to change graphics? When I am using laptop on battery I am browsing web, using microsoft office or watching clips or series. There is no office for linux.. i know that there is openoffice but its not the same and openoffice do not support comments which I am using a lot writing articles.
    3. There are warranty stickers?
    4. hate seagate, I will stay with WD
    5. Now I see that there are no many vents under so cooling pad will not be so efficient..
    6. How smaller? I couldnt find any info on web.. maybe someone who has it can say something? I heard that there are two different power supplies for SLI and smaller for single card? Can't i just use this smaller?
    7. I would rather go for BigFoot killer as I already have it :)


    + any info what temperature will do with components? It is still fine for them or it may cause a problems?
    + maybe something about sound quality? It is good? There is realtek ALC XXX similar to Clevo p150sm where sound is terrible, even through jack. How is sound with external speakers?
    + what kind of ram memory is inside? (8gb version) Its CL8 ? CL9?
     
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