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    Ideapad Y510P

    Discussion in 'Lenovo' started by MJG1492, Jun 2, 2013.

  1. utkarshNS

    utkarshNS Notebook Guru

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    The y510p is supposed to support Bluray drive using the ultrabay, any idea if it would be supported on the y500?
    The y510p is a tad thinner but then it also supports the additional ultrabay gpu and it would not be cost effective for lenovo to manufacture gfx ultrabays of varying thickness for the y500 and y510p when bith are 750m.
    any inputs?

    btw, i am hung between the y510p and y500 :/
    my purchase has to be cost effective as I am a college student

    @arcticreaver
    the forum isnt allowing me to send/receive private messages because I probably have too few posts.
     
  2. brushpicks11

    brushpicks11 Notebook Enthusiast

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    Hey I would love to have the guy you spoke to's information is there any way you could PM me please? Thanks
     
  3. arcticreaver

    arcticreaver Notebook Consultant

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    add me as a friend and i can PM you.
     
  4. brushpicks11

    brushpicks11 Notebook Enthusiast

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    Okay I did
     
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    Dragnoak Notebook Evangelist

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    LOL Lenovo site say's today's y510p eCoupon is " I DEAD EAL" :p

    Ok, I should read that as Idea Deal. ;)

    The Lenovo site still claims:
    "Battery Life Up to 5 hours with standard 6-cell battery"

    Bovine!

    Also, why doesn't Lenovo offer an upgrade to a better WiFi card? One 802.11bgn, 2.4 GHz band, don't cut it in today's wireless environment. :mad:

    Given the numerous hardware problems, encountered with their Y500 roll out, I would rather check out one of these Y510p's at some local reseller in person. If I decided to buy, I could unpack the new machine at their service desk, and actually do all the hardware integrity checks, with the techs standing over my shoulder. I'd do some stress tests, to see how it handles the heat. If the new system doesn't "cut the muster *" I could show the tech the failure, and request a new machine right away. After all, I don't buy a car, without giving it a "test drive". :yes:

    * That's right, the expression is "cut the muster", not mustard! English and Grammar Rules: English Grammar Rule - Cut the Muster or Mustard? :laugh:
     
  7. Albake21

    Albake21 Notebook Consultant

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    Thats exactly what I was thinking, It says a lot about the laptop that should be at least a bit different in the pictures, like it being a tad bit thinner, and what you just pointed out was a good find.

    Haha thats a good idea. When I went to go see it in person at my local frys electronics, they still only had the Y500 on stand and had 3 Y510ps in the back. I asked about it and they said it looks exactly the same and thats why they did change the one on the floor.
     
  8. Dragnoak

    Dragnoak Notebook Evangelist

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    AFAIK The S/PDIF is handled by the headphone jack. When you plug in a jack, you can set it to "Headphone" or "Line Out". At least that's what my Y470 does, using my Realtek HD Audio Manager.

    HeadphoneJack.PNG
     
  9. squallmx

    squallmx Notebook Enthusiast

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    Me too please.
     
  10. fergucen

    fergucen Notebook Enthusiast

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    Thank you. That must be it. Didn't know that.
     
  11. Gaate

    Gaate Newbie

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    I've been using the Y510p for a few hours now, If anyone has any questions I can try to answer them.
    I have the SLI 750m version with 12 gb ram from neweg. Interestingly enough even though neweg lists the laptop as 8gb SSD I recieved a 24gb SSD.

    It is thinner than the Y500, but its not a huge difference.
    The screen is Anti-Glare
    I haven't tested the battery life yet.

    Benchmarks
    3DMark11 Score: 5180
    Unigine Heaven FPS: ~51.5 fps
     
  12. jessevl

    jessevl Notebook Enthusiast

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    Does it look like battery life is really improved? If so, is the integrated Intel graphics now enabled? Also, how is it thinner than the Y500?
     
  13. ndodaro

    ndodaro Notebook Enthusiast

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    I ordered the lenovo y500 when it was memorial day and I got:

    16gb of ram
    2.4 processor
    Nividia 750m Sli
    1tb harddrive with 16gb ssd
    3 year warranty with accidental protection and onsite repair

    All of this for $1,333 and it ships on the 18 of this month

    Is it worth it for me to cancel the order and spend $1,540 on the newer on for better battery life and the antiglare screen, or will it not be that big of a difference for $200?
     
  14. arcticreaver

    arcticreaver Notebook Consultant

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    can you take some pics??
     
  15. Gaate

    Gaate Newbie

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    Here are a few pictures. From what I can see the battery life is not going to be 5 hours. But it looks like you should get longer than 3.

    Y510p - Imgur
     
  16. arcticreaver

    arcticreaver Notebook Consultant

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    thanks for the pics!!!!

    can't wait to get mine!
     
  17. Genxi

    Genxi Notebook Enthusiast

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    May I ask what were the applications and/or conditions you ran your machine under?

    Thanks!
     
  18. fergucen

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    Would you mind telling me the model of the chipset? Is it still HM76?
     
  19. the_profesor

    the_profesor Notebook Consultant

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    For your 3dmark 11 score, are you over clocking the gpu because the y500 750m sli base score is around 4500, if that's the case there is some improvements.
     
  20. Gaate

    Gaate Newbie

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    No that's stock, right out of the box.

    For what I said about the batter, that was just a guesstimate by looking at how fast the battery was draining. Really you should probably ignore it, it could be completely off.

    Here is some more info.
    Info.png
     
  21. arcticreaver

    arcticreaver Notebook Consultant

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    how is the mouse pad. and can you comment on build quality.
     
  22. Gaate

    Gaate Newbie

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    The build quality feels good. I'd say above average. About 70% of the laptop has a metal casing. Its pretty much the same build quality as the Y500 I'd say.

    So far I have loved the touch pad. It took a little to get used to but It seems really accurate and I like using it. Then again I haven't really used a lot of touch pads, and I probably wont use this one to much.
     
  23. Character Zero

    Character Zero Notebook Evangelist

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    Wonder if the ultrabay is the same size as the y500?
     
  24. the_profesor

    the_profesor Notebook Consultant

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    Can you verify that the touch pad is a synaptics one. Also what were your temperatures after your bench mark test. When I get home I will run bench marks to compare but if its true then haswell has improve gpu performance some what. I know one member on here posted some results from 3dmark 11 with scores around 4900-5000 over clocked, but that was pushing the gpu's to the limit.
     
  25. Gaate

    Gaate Newbie

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    Yep, I'm running synaptics touchpad.

    The temperatures were pretty low, without a cooler on a flat table the highest I could get the GPU to go was like 72 degrees ish.
     
  26. dyjodapa

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    I am hoping to compare this to the HP new models tomorrow. So I hope maybe Lenovo will give me a good deal.
     
  27. eriscentro

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    I looked at other machines, the y series is a great deal
     
  28. Quadzilla

    Quadzilla The eye is watching you

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    Can you throw up a screenshot of your 3dmark 11 score if you have a chance. Want to see the GPU/CPU scores.

    Thanks
     
  29. ameybhavsar

    ameybhavsar Notebook Guru

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    Hello,

    I was planning to replace my y500 with the new y510p. I need to ask whether this machine has iGPU i.e hd 5000 enabled along with the gt750m sli Or it is the same dedicated graphics without nvidia optimus as it was on y500.

    Also can you play games only with single graphic card when the ultrabay sli is in the slot. Is their any option to switch to single gpu so that I can conserve the battery.

    What about gaming without power plug in...does it lag...previously on my y500 the game use to lag heavily when I use to play on the batter?. Whats the size and watts of the charger?

    Please confirm me with the above question as it would be really appreciated.

    Thanks a lot... :)
     
  30. FSU Logan

    FSU Logan Notebook Evangelist

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    iGPU is still disabled.

    I am sure the rest is exactly the same
     
  31. Gaate

    Gaate Newbie

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    Ok, I feel like I need to make another post. The unigine heaven benchmarks I posted previously were using the latest UH version. Not the same version used by Notebook Check for their benchmarks.

    To make it easier to compare I ran the same version as they use and got 64 frames per second, which tops the 770m's average score.

    NVIDIA GeForce GTX 770M - NotebookCheck.net Tech

    UH.png
     
  32. octiceps

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    I've read through this entire thread and fail to see where the "new design" is. As for the owner that claims the Y510p gets over P5000 in 3DMark 11 at stock please provide a screenshot of the result as I have a hard time believing that.

    With the release of the new model Lenovo has pretty much destroyed the one thing this machine had going for it, the excellent price. Now that they've jacked it up by $200 across the board there are better quality machines with better GPU's out there. You can get something with the vastly superior 7970M/8970M for around the same as a Y510p costs now.
     
  33. MJG1492

    MJG1492 Notebook Enthusiast

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    I agree with the price point being high but I beleive it will drop to current y500 pricing shortly. Lenovo does price match over the phone to get a sale. So you can get close to the y500 pricing. It is thinner and lighter so it is a refresh. MSI GE60 is a strong competitor with the 765m but sli 750m is still more powerful. Y500 and Y510P are the best looking laptops for this class in my belief. I have to say the only thing clevo has going for it is the 770m. Also the GX70 and GX60 are big and heavy laptops even at 15.6. Design is a cookie cutter of GT series which are very powerful and rather ugly desktop replacements at 17.6.

    Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I337 using Tapatalk 2
     
  34. bats

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    My Y500 is set to arrive in Canada this week... I want the new laptop instead if I can get a discount on it, but I don't see the Y510p anywhere on the Canadian Lenovo site. :confused:
     
  35. octiceps

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    The Y510p may look better but it's build quality isn't exactly great if the Y500 is any indication. If the Y510p does not drop in price I think the MSI GX60 with 7970M/8970M at the same price is a better deal especially for gaming. Obviously CPU performance is the compromise you're making. Plus it's got vastly better battery life courtesy of switchable graphics.
     
  36. luffypirates

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    I just ordered a Y400 a week ago. I got a shipped email yesterday so I went to lenovos website to check on the order. I was greeted by the updated website. I clicked into the Y-series and found out about the new Y410p. 4th gen i7 and it says up to 1600X900 screen resolution but when I click into Y410p none of the models are 1600x900. all still say 1366x768. But if the screen resolution is upgraded then I will return my y400 for the Y410p with updated i7, thinner, 2extra hour battery, hopefully updated screen too. what do you guys think. I think I have free return shipping plus no restocking fee.
     
  37. Albake21

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    Personally I think the GE60 is most the equivalent to the Y510p. Everything the same but with a GTX 765m, which shows just a little bit less performance compared to the SLI GT750m. But the benefit of the GE60 is its completely stable unlike the Y510p. Also its a single card meaning it should have a huge increase in battery life.

    So I've already decided that I am picking up my Y510p either tomorrow or the 6th and if I don't like it or I have a problem I will return it for a GE60. I have time to experiment lol.

    Sent from my Nexus 4 using Tapatalk 2
     
  38. MJG1492

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    I don't believe the build quality of msi is any better. There chic-let keyboards are cool looking but a disaster if you are hard on them. I have seen at least 2 gt 2000 dollars plus models with broken keyboards one owned by my friend. I will say 8970 would be an exellent gaming card to go with though. Lenovo track pad issue are very common for many manufacturers who keys are integrated into the touch pad. Apple mastered this awhile ago every other company is hit or miss with this one.

    Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I337 using Tapatalk 2
     
  39. Genxi

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    I had laid my eyes on the y500 for quite awhile and the recent release of the y510p almost got me to spent my money on it. Unfortunately, is it also this thread from that I learned the y510 doesn't offer optimus, which is a big no-no considering I will need better battery life for college. After doing some specs matching, it is fair to say the MSI ge60 offers the better deal for $200 more because you get 2 years warranty, better battery life, faster graphics card, a fine surrounding sound system, amp headphone jack, sleeker inside design (my opinion, of course), lighter, and thinner. If the rumors is true, Windows Blue + haswell + optimus = more power efficient, which I hope will improve the Msi ge60 even more...
     
  40. the_profesor

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    So like I said I would run 3dmark 11 when I got home. I ran a base test that yielded a score of 4497 NVIDIA GeForce GT 750M video card benchmark result - Intel Core i7-3630QM Processor,LENOVO INVALID score: P4497 3DMarks, and I ran a over clocked test that yielded a score of 4845 NVIDIA GeForce GT 750M video card benchmark result - Intel Core i7-3630QM Processor,LENOVO INVALID score: P4845 3DMarks. I over clocked it to theses settings, Core clock at 120, memory clocked at 310. So I would like the new owner of the y510p to prove their score of 5000+. Screenshot (5).png Screenshot (6).png
     
  41. octiceps

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    I got P4900 with my Y500 GT 650M SLI at 1120/2250, but that was because I used ThrottleStop so my Physics score was much higher, around 7700. Unless the 750M SLI in the Y510p was overclocked there's no way it would break P5000 because the CPU doesn't make as as much of an impact on the overall score as the GPU, assuming the 4700MQ is significantly faster than the 3630QM, which I highly doubt.
     
  42. the_profesor

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    Then again someone could post a 5000+ in 3dmark 11 being oc'ed and say its stock and we wouldn't know, we do know that the sli 750m can push 5000 but only being oc'ed heavily. when you refer to 1120/2250, what are you referring to?
     
  43. octiceps

    octiceps Nimrod

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    Which is why I asked for a screenshots of the result and GPU validation, e.g. GPU-Z.

    1120/2250 is the clock speeds of course. Core/memory.
     
  44. the_profesor

    the_profesor Notebook Consultant

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    That's right your using gpu-z not afterburner or nividia inspector.
     
  45. TheSonu

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    Hey articreaver, is it possible for you to pm me this rep's info? I'm a college student as well, and it'd be great if I could get this deal also. Thanks a ton!
     
  46. octiceps

    octiceps Nimrod

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    ?

    GPU-Z is a diagnostic and monitoring, not overclocking, tool. I use MSI Afterburner to overclock. 1120/2250 are my actual clock speeds. Afterburner only shows offsets. So since GT 650M default clocks are 790/2000 I would use +330MHz/+250MHz offsets to get 1120/2250:

    MSIAfterburner.PNG
     
  47. the_profesor

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    never mind me, I didn't realize you have your bios modded correct? that would exlain why your able to oc past the 135mhz to core speed.
     
  48. octiceps

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    Yeah unlocked BIOS and Ultrabay vBIOS.
     
  49. gnan10

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    i wonder lenovo enabled igpu on new y510p. it states upto 5hrs batterylife with 6 cell battery now...
    if really igpu enabled in this model then really its a big concern.
    but price point is an issue for now anyways
     
  50. Gaate

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    3dMark11.jpg

    That's stock...
     
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