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    new Gigabyte P35K

    Discussion in 'Gigabyte and Aorus' started by [-Mac-], Jun 2, 2013.

  1. Retroceded

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    I've actually have a friend with the 510p, it's pretty slick, but he runs hot and has no battery life what so ever. Keyboard felt plasticy and flimsy compared to the P25W.
     
  2. WhiteBoySHady

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    Guys do you know how infinity and Nissan are the same company, VW and Audi are the same company, and Hyundai and Kia are the same company. Well msi, gigabyte, segar, and one more I can't remember the name, they are all together but different branding, so just letting you guys know if you get any of those brands, your gonna get the same quality. At the end of the day it's just about preference. I'm sure you guys all see the similarity among those Laptops but each company adds it's own little touch to stand out
     
  3. BlkKnight

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    That doesn't really ring true. Which one of the following would you like to own:

    Fiat or (Alfa Romeo, Chrysler, Dodge, Ferrari, Jeep, Lancia, Maserati)

    Volkswagen or (Bentley, Bugatti, Lamborghini, Porsche)

    It's all about building a product suitable for the specific market. They are all "Quality" (I hate that word as it's is so misused) products.

    Quality means "fit for purpose"

    Are Fiat and a Ferrari designed for the same purpose? No.

    Are they both fit for the purpose they were intended to serve? Yes

    Same with these machines. In my mind the P35K is the Ferrari, and the segar / clevo are the fiats of the laptop world.
     
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  4. zipykido

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    I wouldn't exactly say that the P25W is better in every aspect. In terms of performance I'd imagine they'd be very similar except the y510p produces more heat. Same CPU in both and sli 750m performs close to 770m. That's of course ignoring that you could overclock but doing so might decrease the lifespan of your laptop. Maybe Retroceded can comment on the differences in screens between the two but in the end it would come down to price and looks like you said.

    Looks like your BF4 video is being used by Gigabyte on their facebook page. I hope you're getting some nice kickbacks for it. I think the yellow cover is a little too much for me. Also there are a lot of 15.6" options if I open up the portability constraint. Clevos w350st, Clevo P150SM, MSI ge60, MSI gt60, MSI gs70, alienware 14", P25w/k. Too bad razer doesn't sell barebones or debranded blades.
     
  5. zipykido

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    MSI and gigabyte are both independently traded companies. MSI and gigabyte might contract to the same factories but that's not even close to same as being affiliates of each other. Nissan is the parent company of Infiniti. Do you have an evidence such as financial statements linking the two?
     
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    Sorry for the long delay in response but I have been busy. I have been having a hard time getting Battlefield 4 to work on my P35K. I have briefly tried some other games and they work fine. I'm sure it's a combination between EA/DICE's ty coding and nvidia optimus. I've tried everything else under the sun and nothing seems to help.
     
  8. Plexabit

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    That's too bad...
     
  9. Chyl

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    Ridiculous that the CF1 is held up at customs for so long
     
  10. zipykido

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    GentechPC mentioned shipment delay in Taiwan, resellers won't get them until the 16th-19th of November. Sucks to be us I guess.
     
  11. Plexabit

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    Great job on the video! Like your accent ;) I noticed the mk1 still had those center feet (saw them in your first video) but they may have been slightly smaller--I couldn't tell.
     
  12. JonathonW

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    Cheers. Yes I went back to the photos of the mk1 and saw the same foot placement; I had just remembered it wrongly.

    I have a question for P35K owners: how does the Nvidia Geforce 765m show up? It's not showing not in Windows device manager (and I'm running it plugged in so it should kick in). When I run the Gigabyte Smart update to update the Nvidia drivers I get:

    "Nvidia installer cannot continue
    This graphics driver could not find compatible graphics hardware"

    Clicking on the installed Nvidia utility said that it could not detect a Nvidia card on the system.

    I upgraded to Win 8.1 and have spent about 6 hours installing my software, configuring Windows and getting the latest drivers on. However, I seem to be missing .... one of the main reasons advertised reasons for buying the laptop. I've updated the BIOS to the latest offered and have tied booting with the 'enable 3D graphics' option on and off. No dice; no Nvidia card. Am I missing something? Please, I really don't want to send a 2nd unit back, with another long afternoon lost.
     
  13. zipykido

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    I think there are some driver issues with windows 8.1 where it can't detect a video card. Open up your device manager, see if there are any unknown devices in the system. If there are some with question marks next to them then it's simply a driver issue. If not then you might have other issues.
     
  14. WhiteBoySHady

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    Oh.... SNAP! You are one of the guys that got it with the forgoten gtx 765m :O some production forgot to add the card chip on he computer......

    Contact them right away for a replacment
    I'm sure if you open the laptop you will not see it there
     
  15. BlkKnight

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    Use an earlier version. Its a driver issue. The hardware is on board so can't be removed.

    Sent from my HTC One X using Tapatalk
     
  16. WhiteBoySHady

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    I read on the overclockers forum that someone got it without it
     
  17. JonathonW

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    Use an earlier version of....what? I have tried installing the Nvidia drivers but it won't let me, as it says that there is no Nvidia graphics chip on-board. I have installed all the 8.1 drivers from Gigabyte's website, no dice. I'll be phoning Overlockers tomorrow to chat to their tech support, but I wanted to check if anyone else with a P35K is seeing the same issue.
     
  18. JonathonW

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    Yup, saw that too. Don't know how it was resolved or if it's still ongoing.
     
  19. BlkKnight

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    Check on the p34 thread. Someone got it working in there

    Sent from my HTC One X using Tapatalk
     
  20. Ethelwolf

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    Hi - I had the same issue when I upgraded my P35K mk1 to Win 8.1 before it was sent back. Check Device Manager - has the PCIe controller got a little error icon on it? That was what was stopping my GTX 765M controller from being detected. Uninstall the PCIe controller in Device Manager then scan for hardware changes. The 765M should then show up as a generic VGA controller. Install the NVIDIA drivers, using the 'perform a clean installation' option in the advanced options. That worked for me, though I only had a few days to play with it before it went back.

    Good luck!
     
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  21. WhiteBoySHady

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    for your cf2 what were the specs you got ?? can you post a pic of the box specs and post it please ?
     
  22. JonathonW

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    Aaaaaaand we have a winner. :) Yes, did as you said and sure enough there was a "Intel(R) Xeon(R) Processor E3-1200 v3/4th GenCore Processor PCI Ecpress x16 Controllder -0C01" with yellow exclamation mark in Device manager. Uninstalled it and sure enough - '3D graphics' which quickly turned into NVIDIA Geforece GTX 765M. Installing drivers now. Thank you very much. I had read from page 95-118 of the P34 thread but hadn't seen that tip.

    I was playing with the Intel Extreme tuning utility and have clocked the laptop up to 3.4 instead of 3.2 max turbo and have notched up all the multipliers of hte active cores by 2 notches. The system runs at 90C when running the Intel CPU stress test and drops down to 48C pretty quickly when idle. Happy with that.
     
  23. JonathonW

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    Question; how much extra real word performance can I expect if I add another 8Gb RAM module? I had forgotten about the single/double channel performance issue when I chose the 8Gb version. I use Adobe Lightroom and RAM usage doesn't usually top 6Gb, but I could use any extra speed that the dual channel RAM brings. Is it worth spending £61 on going to 16Gb or it it a synthetic speed increase that isn't much real world usage? CT102464BF160B - 8GB, 204-pin SODIMM , DDR3 PC3-12800 from Crucial.com Thoughts?
     
  24. zipykido

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    Single memory vs dual channel - Dual Channel - Memory

    You'll see only a bonus of 10-15% at most. You might see a boost going form 8 gigs to 16 gigs though depending on what applications you're running. The more RAM you have the merrier even if you don't use it all. That memory should be fine, I think the stock RAM runs at 1.5v but the crucial ram should be compatible.
     
  25. WhiteBoySHady

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    Dual is always better but im saying if you increase the ram beyond 8gb this is what you will see

    gaming wise 1-2 fraps

    video editing 7-10 seconds faster encoding

    as in normal usage not a single diff
     
  26. kaborchers

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    Good to see someone has gotten one of these in good condition after the repackaging debacle. I've been holding off until I saw how that sorted itself out.

    One other thing that has been giving me pause is the battery life. From the sounds of it the p34g is pretty terrible battery-wise. What kind of performance are you getting on the p35k with moderate use (50% brightness, browsing, etc. etc.)? I understand this is still new to you so I can wait a while for an answer.

    Or if anyone else can weigh in . . . ? Thanks!
     
  27. Plexabit

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    +1 I think this would be really handy to know as well. Even just telling us what the estimated battery life is on the little clock when you click the battery in the status bar.
     
  28. WhiteBoySHady

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    ok here is the interior of the cf2 rev 2.0 i got from excaliber pc website
    who can spot the difference ? huge.jpg
     
  29. freakjim

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    A metal bracket in front of the battery? Does it extend across the ODD opening?
     
  30. kaborchers

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    Huh, comparing this to the one on page 79... Looks like the bit under the battery (front of palm rest area) was some sort of black plastic before. Now looks to be aluminum?





    Sent from my SCH-I545 using Tapatalk
     
  31. IWTT

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    Is that metal or just the reflection from the light?
     
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    [​IMG]

    Definitely looks different. Just below the battery at front.

    [​IMG]

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  33. zipykido

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    Agreed, it just looks like the plastic is reflecting light weird. Nothing to see here.
     
  34. WhiteBoySHady

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    look at this perfect cut over in the new pic here i labeled. its a perfect square that looks like metal or aluminum
    the old one didnt have it. its does not look like a reflection at all

    u5eju7ah.jpg
     
  35. volati1e

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    MSI and Gigabyte definitely are not the same company. Maybe you are thinking of Sager, which uses Clevo to manufacture their machines. These same machines are also sold to various other companies like Maingear, Eurocom, and AVA Direct. They are all the same internally, but with different branding on the outside.
     
  36. JonathonW

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    When fully charged, on bootup with balanced battery power scheme it's showing 4 hours 5 mins. When running prime 95 with all cores it's showing 1 hour 15 mins. I'm going to have a go undervolting to get a profile for longer trips on the train.

    Edit - I've had the laptop sitting beside me switched on with just battery power and when I checked just now it said there was 6 hours 7 mins left and 75% power remaining. Go figure.
     
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    well guys, i don't know what to say and i don't want to discourage anyone since i hat the P35K as my 1st option to buy but it seems like the only think changed was the packaging and nothing else..i know that our mind want to think that was also some reinforcement in the chassis of the notebook but it seems i wasn't. I just post this on the Gigabyte website: ""Hey Gigabyte! Can you made a statement in which to clarify the things changed about the P35K? Are there any improvement made at the chassis of the notebook or just the packaging changed?..I guess people are really interested about this thing and you answer will be much appreciated and will help them making a decision..and please give a complete answer for once..not use evasive answers.. thanks!"" and this was the answer: ""Our apologies if you feel we have been evasive. We have always maintained the packaging issue. We are quite confused about the evasive nature that you mention. To re-state - We have changed the packaging of the notebook ensuring that it will not be damaged during shipment. We are confident that as users purchase the P35K, they will notice the new and improved packaging which keeps their notebooks well protected."" so, as i stated at the beginning..nothing but packaging changed..i'm disappointed.. :/
     
  38. JonathonW

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    ? That's not what I was expecting. Overclockers UK said "Gigabyte have change both the manufacturing process and packaging on all future P35k shipments, so the issues they had will no longer be present."
     
  39. Psyl4nce

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    well, maybe they say but since Gigabyte is the manufacturer and not they i think the word of Gigabyte has more weight in this statement..you can look to follow the lines stated above on their facebook posts. And to be honest i think that if they would really changed the manufacturing process they will praise with that not infirm it since there are many users (in fact all i guess) who would hope and wish for that to happen...
     
  40. WhiteBoySHady

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    We will find out when gentech reviews the video of the rev 2.0 model and they will probably open it from the housing to see what they changed. Either way I'm getting it so I can't complain cause I need a computer ASAP
     
  41. Psyl4nce

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    so..i wrote on their facebook again JonathonW what u wrote above ((Overclockers UK said "Gigabyte have change both the manufacturing process and packaging on all future P35k shipments, so the issues they had will no longer be present." )) and this was their answer: ""Unfortunately, we cannot comment on that information. We would like to reiterate our statement, this is a packaging issue that has been addressed and we are confident that the hairline phenomenon should be solved with the help of new packaging.
    Thank you.""
    So even if it sounds bad for us i think this is the truth sadly. Again, i looked for this not because i wanted to discourage anyone from buying the P35K since i was a potential buyer too, just wanted to find & offer an accurate information about the real facts..
     
  42. Plexabit

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    Whoa--if those are accurate figures this thing has some niiice battery life for what it is :D We all know that last one just can't be accurate (it was probably idling) so we'll just have to wait for someone to do a test. *cough*you*cough* :p
     
  43. WhiteBoySHady

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    Haha why do you insist on breaking my heart haha idk from what I been hearing is the usa version got the chasis support so we would have to wait, gentech will have a video up soon.


    @plexabit I will be getting mine next week and I will probably post everything about this laptop even battery life and performance :)
     
  44. WhiteBoySHady

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    Hey man, how do you post pictures big like that ?
     
  45. kaborchers

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    Just got lucky. When I did the photos via tapatalk that's how they turned out. Wish I had done it on purpose! :)

    Sent from my SCH-I545 using Tapatalk
     
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    if you bothered to read some of the new posts and the new internal pictures, you'd see that there clearly is something that has changed. Also, the guys that work the facebook posts are more marketing and haven't really ever been reliable with posting accurate information.
     
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    Gigabyte NB finally made a statement regarding their solution to the bending problem, two words, improved packaging.

    Gigabyte's response.jpg
     
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    Wish someone had the two actual models to compare. Those previous pictures are one thing but being able to physically inspect this supposed new metal support is what's needed.

    Sent from my Nexus 4 using Tapatalk
     
  49. Psyl4nce

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    Gberg if u would bother to read what i told with proved facts and answers from Gigabyte then maybe u would understood more.."those guys" that u talk about are from Gigabyte, and i suppose they know better than the resellers..whatever, it's strange how some people can find offensive a simple act meant to help..and make nonsense comments..

    WhiteBoySHady - that also broke my heart so.. gimme 5 bro :))
     
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    I think GentechPC has both versions now. But they're both the CF2's, I wonder if they'll upload a comparison sometime soon.

    EDIT: I got a reply from gigabyte: "We hope it reaches US resellers - third week of Nov." Which means that if it reaches late that week we won't see these laptops until early December due to the Thanksgiving holiday. Also since I won't be around my shipping address on the holiday there's a good chance that the package will be just sitting at my doorstep for a couple of days. Maybe it's time to look at ultraportables with a 750m.
     
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