new Gigabyte P35K

I'm sure it's the new supported one, since they had no damaged except one that isn't even damaged it's just not streight on the table so it's all good

And everyone here in the forum! Post pictures of your laptops when you get them!!! Let's see if we can keep troubleshooting and helping each other out for the first few weeks. I personally will go back to windows 7 so everyone keep supporting the forum for any problems you face. And if you try windows 8.1 that I wanna see. All the drivers are posted on the gigabyte website here is the link GIGABYTE - Notebook & Netbook - Notebook & Netbook - P series - P35K just choose your windows and it will show all the drivers. You can even update bios from there every time it needs update. Next week boys..... The moment of truth.......

 

Just an update for you bro, I emailed overclockers uk and this is what they said

"Thanks for the webnote,
It means that it is a new revision/model so they would have fixed a few things tweeked it a little just to make it run a little better or added a little feature.

Regards,"

That's your answer

 

They could have added the feature where it doesn't snap and bend in the middle. Unless that was a previous feature that they removed. We'll know for sure by the end of the week if GentechPC gets the shipment.

 

Overclockers posted today


Hi there

Normally maybe 1-2pc out of 100.

So right now to have only 1x P35k damaged is pretty within the norm, also we've shipped a few over past few days, no complaints.

Also Gigabyte got in touch with me to tell me what I posted here was wrong and that I needed to update you guys. They have told me that the issue I spotted on the one laptop from last delivery was nothing to do with the bowing/bending issue they had and was an actual faulty laptop.

We got a bit ahead of ourselves and made the mistake of assuming, as such I've updated the description to make it clear Gigabyte have change both the manufacturing process and packaging on all future P35k shipments, so the issues they had will no longer be present.

Of course like any other laptop, one could still get smashed in shipping, that can happen to any brand.

 

2 (or 3) words: 3D Printing FTW. (They're like little mini Asian workers on your desktop!)

(This was not meant to be racist btw)

In that picture on the inside it looks like the support is just screwed into the chassis. That's a definite plus (likebutta, I'm talking to you) because you could just fabricate a replacement for that from any metal--heck, you could make it titanium if you wanted. Now I just need to win a $500 lottery so I have an easy reason to get this over any $1k laptop.

 

I can leave a little feedback from my experiences with the P25W.
I finally got it 100% functional, just downloading games now.

Short guide on updating to windows 8.1 / maintaining your laptop

General Tips
1. If you want to go into the bios, disable fast shutdown in windows 8.
2. Remove gigabytes LAN software if you are going to upgrade to 8.1.
3. Move your recovery partition somewhere safe (use gigabytes smart recovery to create a restore point too)
4. Use gigabytes smart update to update the utilities.
5. Windows + F is your new friend.

SSD
1. disable hibernation
2. Move your page files.
3. Delete the recovery partition.
4. Run disk cleanup. (To remove windows.old, be sure to check mark it)
(Windows should be using about 26GB out of the SSD now.)

Use gigabytes smart update / download new drivers. And install.

Things I did wrong during updating.
1. Be sure to use Gigabytes smart update to update the GPU drivers, And Audio drivers.
If you don't...
(The system will act like it does not recognize you gpu, and the audio will not change automatically.)
(From there you can install the newest driver from nvidia)

Finally if you get a watermark saying the SecureBoot is installed incorrectly, go into the BIOS and go to the tab with security in it and replace the keys. (Bios = F2)

And that's pretty much it.

 

What configurations did you get your p25k with? The p35k I ordered should come with two msata drives that I plan to raid and a 750 gig hard drive. I'll probably move the recovery partition to the HDD and just have OS and games installed on the raided msatas. Do you think that would overly difficult? I could also make a usb windows 8 boot drive but I'd have to buy a 32 gig usb stick to do that.

Also is there a reason why the driver problem occurs? I find that the drivers from laptopvideo2go are usually better than the recommended ones since mobile gpu drivers typically aren't supported very long by nvidia.

 

No idea why the drivers got messed up, but once I installed latest driver provided by gigabyte I could update with the nvidia latest driver with no problem.

If you are doing raid, I suggest you don't do it.
The diffrence in performace in the real world ( raid sv no raid) is marginal. It's not worth the risk of losing your entire C drive if one driv fails.

If you still want to do it I suggest cloning your OS to the HDD, boot from the HDD format both SSD's, raid both SSDs, and clone the drive once you are done.

 

Only thing software side that has me a bit confused is that Smart Update is showing a new bios (p35.305) but the current version available on Gigabyte's websites directly are the 303s. I normally don't update the BIOS unless it adds something useful or if I'm having an issue... so far no reference or change log for these 305's that I can see.

 

Thanks for the tip. I'm mainly doing raid 0 since it's two 128 gig SSDs, and raid 0 means I'd have effectively 256 gigs worth of space. I plan on using the HDD for actually storing important files. I could care less about actual performance gain from raiding them, I'd be totally fine with one 256 gig SSD as well but gentech was offering the two for a very good price. Having a single drive fail would suck equally, but I guess there's twice as much chance for failure with two drives. But raid 1 would mean I only have 128 gigs which isn't even remotely enough for today's games, OS and apps.

 

Have the issues relating to trim been sorted?

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Then what's the point in RAID'ing them at all? You could just leave them as separate drives and use one until you fill it up, then move to the other one when you need it. I guess you would lose some space and I don't know what kinds of things you'll be doing but then you won't have to worry about both failing at the same time.

Another option is "multivoluming" it. It's basically a RAID format, but built-in to windows and uses normal formatting techniques to span multiple drives.

 

Honestly I just want to see how fast two SSDs in raid 0 are before deciding how to configure my drives. Gentech's site said they used super raid (which is MSI technology so I don't know how correct the description is) which can give write speeds of up to 1500 mb/s. I know that benchmarks don't translate well to real world usage but as a tech nerd I'd love to see numbers. Aside from that, msatas are getting more and more reliable so I'm not to worried about failure. I tend to back up important files every couple of weeks anyway or have them in the cloud. Also I'd only keep the OS and programs on the raid drives, if one fails I could just reformat the other one with OS and limp with only one drive (unless GentechPC requires sending the entire laptop if a drive fails).

There's an equal chance of either drive failing so if my OS drive fails I'd have to reinstall everything anyway. Aside from gaming I also use photoshop and illustrator on a regular basis. Generally though, I could get by with just a browser and microsoft office. Also I do research which sometimes involves very large spreadsheets but that's an issue of RAM, and processor. Data safety I have covered with backups and having the HDD. The only issue would be downtime if a drive fails but that'd be equal I guess no matter which configuration I had them in. Assuming the HDD is reliable I don't see a reason not to raid 0 them for the performance and ease.

 

Does anyone know how to install windows on msata and use the hdd for file installation and storage ? Like automatically have everything install on the hdd

 

Hi,

I was reading about the P35k for about a 2 weeks in this forum, until now I see it is the best option despite the bending issue which I tend to think it will be solved on the next shipment, but I am still looking for a full review showing the Temps., Noise, and Battery Life before my final decision.

Retroceded,
Glad for your P25W, I am thinking of it as a second option.I think you've mentioned earlier that you will wrap your P25W to hide the yellow color, if you did could you please show a picture how it looks like now.

Also if you could mention the temps, noise and battery life on the P25W I would be grateful

 

Noise,
browsing = none (it might ramp up for a second if you are playing a browser game). 45*C
Gaming = you can hear it, but with sound it's not noticeable. 67*C
Benchmarking = tornado pretty annoying. 100% CPU and GPU 85*C
DVD drive = earthquake (it's louder than the fans on full)

So yeah it runs hot under load, but it doesn't get much hotter which is fantastic. (No throttling)
All my temps = CPU (gpu runs cooler)
Here is a video depicting what I said.


The yellow to me is fine, I may cover the chrome however. (It's not plain yellow it has a metallic look and sparkle)
Did I just say i like sparkles lol.

Check out my review for more info about the P25W, I don't want to get too off topic.


I can't imagine how hot the P35K will get, hopefully it doesn't throttle for you guys.

 

It doesn't seem like throttling is built into the bios. I haven't seen any reports of throttling for the p34g either. Honestly I would be totally fine with throttling on battery. Also if the laptop got excessively hot I'd prefer a little throttling to prevent damage. Did you undervolt your CPU at all or overclock your GPU?

 

I'll try to run some tests later on the P35K. But for now... I just wanted to mention that BIOS update in my earlier post. I contacted Gigabyte and while it doesn't appear on the Gigabyte site (at least not yet) and has no change log, they told me it was a microcode update for compatibility with future BIOS updates. Seems weird but whatever.

 

No its just STOCK settings.

I will be under volting tonight.

Whats the best program to do it with? (Intel one?)

 

Retroceded, how long did Smart Recovery take for you? Mine has been "Processing" for almost 2 hours now... Doesn't seem like it should take that long.

EDIT: To clarify, the green bar moves from 0 to 100, then repeats itself, over and over.

EDIT2: Seems to be working now so to speak but once it creates the USB recovery or whatever (I'm using a 64GB USB3 stick). It seems to become unformatted and has no properties so I'm not even sure it did what it's supposed to do.

 

I recommend using microsofts recovery drive maker, search "recovery" and you should find it.

Gigabytes recovery software is basicly like a restore point for your laptop, you could use acronis if its now working.

 

I'm so anxious about Gentech's report on the new shipment and the possibility of them shipping out next week. Sucks that they're on the opposite coast though. Earliest I can see myself getting this laptop is the second week of November.

 

GentechPC, I have a question for you. The two versions in your site show screen options as IPS Glossy and IPS matte, whereas Gigabyte's own page states them as being just IPS and non-IPS. I was wondering if you could clarify that, as well as asking if all your currently-offered models belong to this allegedly better built 2nd-gen or if it's an in-process rollout. If I end up making the purchase, I'd like to make sure I am getting a 2nd-gen model.

 

Any recommendations from folks on which Wireless card to go with on the P35k? I notice all of the system re-sellers are showing upgrade options, but dont really have much details on what the differences are.

 

The stock will do fine man

 

Hey guys, someone posted this on the Gigabyte NB facebook page.

Hey Gigabyte, why is there a $50-$70 difference between the P35K cf1 and cf2, when I give them the exact same config?

I tested it by going to xoticpc's site and chose the following configurations for each model:

CF1:
12gb of ram
128 gb Solid state msata 3
removed the HDD
I left everything else as it is.

CF1 = 1524

CF2:
removed the HDD
Left everything else as it is.

CF2 = 1574

1574 - 1524=$50 difference

I tried the same thing again with Gentechpc

CF1:
12 gb of ram
128 GB Msata ssd sata 3 (nonbrand name, should be first msata option)
removed the HDD
I left everythign else as it is.

CF1 = $1489

CF2:

Removed the HDD
I left everything else as it is.

CF2 = $1559

1559-1489=$70 difference

Overall both models from each website should have the same configurations.

12 gb of ram
128 gb msata ssd
HDD removed
stock wireless card
windows 8 pre-install (both have the normal 64 bit version)

Based on this, what is the justification for having a $50-$70 difference if the internals should be the only difference?

 

Should only be IPS matte for US versions. If you click configuration and it will take you to the configuration page. There is no option to change the screen. Same thing with Xoticpc.

 

That's because we customize from Gigabyte's MSRP. No matter how you add components the base price of MSRP won't change.

We will be testing the new version and if everything turns out to be fine then we will start shipping it next week.

The screen is LGD03A5 IPS screen. you can watch our review video here at 08:47:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EECsIpWrkTU

the screen is not 100% glossy or matte, it's between matte and glossy.

You do see glares but not like regular glossy screen reflects like a mirror.

We returned all 1st Gen P35K to Gigabyte, therefore, the only P35K we will be getting are the 2nd Gen with re-packaging and rework version.


Update:

P35K-CF1 shipment delayed, the incoming shipment of version 2 P35K are CF2 only.

 

Are they stuck at customs again or was the shipment from Taiwan delayed? This is getting ridiculous. They should just let you take out the SSD and stick of RAM from the CF2 and sell it was a CF1.

 

NOOOOO. Do you have an ETA of when the CF1's are arriving?

 

Either nov 16-19

:/ sorry man

 

It was delayed form Taiwan. Retail version of laptops sell as is sealed from the box with MSRP and SKU, so they don't pull out components and sell it with different prices. Pretty much like cars with window sticker.

WhiteBoySHady has the answer.

 

So there's no other difference between the CF1 and CF2 than HDD size, SSD and RAM? Good to know.


By the way, while looking for some extra info on the 2nd-gen, I found out that Amazon is also selling this. The CF1 comes fromExcaliberPC, but the CF2 appears as being sold by Amazon itself.

 

There is no physical difference but you are paying $50+ more for the same configuration if you were to upgrade to 12 gb ram and add a 128 gb msata ssd to the CF1. You'll be paying about $1530 to $1540 depending if you are buying from gentechpc or xoticpc for the upgrades v.s. $1599 for the CF2 stock. The only difference would be the 1 TB 5400 rpm sata 2 HDD in the cf2 v.s. the 750 GB 7200 rpm sata 2 HDD in CF1, if you don't upgrade the stock HDD. Also, the most noticeable difference is CF2 will always arrive before the CF1. Buying the CF2 stock as it is with no upgrades just means getting it to you sooner. Essentially, those who buy the CF2 are paying for time with the $50+ difference. Which is kind of B.S. in my opinion.

 

Actually I looked into it and the 1tb hdd on the cf 2 is a toshiba hdd which is 120$ but the 750gb on the cf1 is 89$, plus the 128 msata ssd that comes with the cf2 is a lite on it corp brand which is pretty expensive, 130$ or so for the msata. So trust me the ram and storage space make a big diff in pricing.

And let's not forget the fact that it is manufactured first, I know what you're thinking when you say they could just take out ram and space but is not just the case .....

Also the most important factor is the marketing plan
Trust me there are so many factors affecting why cf2 is out first,

 

mSata drive sales are pretty rare. On any given day you're really looking to pay $1 per gig for mSata and the ram would be like $30 or less. But if you shop around you could probably get the same configuration for <$100. The HDD "upgrade" isn't really that great considering they upgrade your 7200 rpm drive for a 5400 rpm drive.

While I like a good conspiracy theory, I really wish they would just get their act together. First botching up the release by months, then having QC issues, then only selling the CF2 when everybody wants the CF1. It's almost as if they're trying to force us to buy the CF2 at the higher upgrade cost, while at the same time not releasing the CF1 and telling us that we can't modify the system without breaking warranty.

 

I wouldn't have been as annoyed at the pricing of the CF2 had they used a 1TB 7200 rpm sata 3 HDD.

 

I just want to have this by sometime mid-December so I'm good Someone mentioned selling their stock 750GB HDD. Was that WhiteBoy? I can't remember. How much you want for it?

 

I'm getting cf2 won't need

 

They're trying to market this machine as a high end business/gaming laptop. Which is odd because people who game will probably understand what the computer specs mean, and people who do business probably wouldn't actually buy this laptop. Unless the business people are gamers but then it just loops to my first point.

 

Let's just say it's a very niche product

 

I might shiitt bricks the moment i get an email that my laptop shipped haha
I sold my laptop cause I thought the laptop was suppose to come out but it got delayed way too long, then I been without a computer till now, I been using the library a lot but it's ok the wait won't be Long anymore I hope
Let's stay positive

 

This guy has an unknown whether it's cf1-2-3-4 who knows!! Doesn't even have a backlit

http://youtu.be/An21uEVWdvA

Watch the video and look at the part where he shows the laptop specs

 

Haha. The keyboard is Norwegian (country code: no). And it his backlit.

 

Fail.... On my end haha.....

 

This isn't really related to the video, (although I thought it was weird that it didn't come with an OS) but I was wondering if anyone had any previous experience with Gentech, XoticPC, etc... warranties. I really need a good warranty on my laptop as I need it 24/7. Does anyone know who offers the best extended warranties?

 

If you need that kind of support, best get a dell with their pro support package

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Price per performance it appears that the Lenovo y510p seems like the way to go currently. I'm not sure at this point if it's even worth waiting for the p35k. Also gigabyte keeps taunting us with its facebook posts.

 

The Lenovo y510p is a bit of a different beast at ~3x the thickness of the p35k. So it would depend what your requirements are as to wether the p35k is worth the wait.

 

The P25W seems to be better than the y510p (sli edition) in almost every area besides the looks, the keyboard and obviously the price.