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    P34G v3 news

    Discussion in 'Gigabyte and Aorus' started by olakiril, Oct 5, 2014.

  1. Acnik

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    Great news! So looking forward to this, I think its going to be a GREAT laptop that's going to serve me well for many years! :D
     
  2. vinny3

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    So looks like xotic changed their ETA from late December to Jan 15.

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  3. Curunen

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    So, hopefully within a couple of months now?
     
  4. vinny3

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    At first it was early Dec, then late Dec, now it's Jan 15 so who knows.

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    I have January 8th from Computersuniverse.net
     
  6. vinny3

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    Sweet 2 out of 2 for mid Jan. This is looking promising.

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  7. bkvamme

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    Yup. They do however note " expected to come in stock on approx. 08.01.2015
    (Current non-binding information of our supplier)"

    Strange that Gigabyte has kit released any more information though.
     
  8. dukeforever

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    sorry guys :

    Update: 2014/12/22

    Dear dukeforever,

    Sorry for the late reply. After confirming with related department, we are sorry to inform you that the schedule changed. The P34W v3 will scheduled to be release in February next year.

    Regards,
    GIGABYTE

    =============================================================================================
    Original Reply: 12/16/2014 2:12 PM

    Dear dukeforever,

    About the release time, we have forwarded your request to our related department to confirm the information and we will update this mail as soon as the result comes out.

    For the website page, the details of product will release when the product sell in the retail market. Since the P34W v3 is not release yet, we will update the product information later. We appreciate your understanding that we are not able to command on future / non-existing products. If there is any product update, we will post to our official web page as soon as possible. Thanks.

    If you need to check the current status of this case, you may visit GIGABYTE eSupport.

    Regards,
    GIGABYTE
     
  9. vinny3

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    Awe man. This thing better come with broadwell after all this.

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  10. Jacks0n

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    Intel is preparing to launch its broadwell cpus during CES. So its more than likely to come with broadwell inside...
     
  11. dukeforever

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    Uh ... Don't expect that ! 5th generation cores are expected for a pretty vague " spring 2015 " ( http://www.extremetech.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/Intel-Desktop.jpg )
    By that time the p34W will already be in production !
     
  12. vinny3

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    Judging from that pic, it looks like they're going to skip broadwell, and release skylake in 2h 2015. The 5th gen core released in spring will probably be haswell.

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  14. Amal77

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    So, it's true :

    NVIDIA® GeForce® GTX 970M GDDR5 3GB

    Update :

    Here I've compiled the VRAM usage of some of the latest game from Gamegpu.ru website
    [​IMG]
     
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  15. vinny3

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    Yeah but it's been proven that in real world usage if you have a little lower vram than what the game is able to use, you won't notice any difference in frame rates or visual quality.

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  16. Amal77

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    From what I've seen from the web, you might actually face stuttering issue.
     
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    I assume those are with ultra textures? Using ultra resolution textures on a 1080p display has dubious benefits. High-res textures should be just fine.

    What your charts basically mean is that 3GB VRAM will be a problem if you hook the laptop up to a 3k or 4k external monitor and use ultra textures. Except the P34W doesn't have Displayport output, which is what you normally use to connect to a 3k or 4k monitor. I'm still trying to find out if they upgraded the HDMI port to HDMI 2.0 (which would support 4k), or if it's still 1.3/1.4 (which only goes up to 2560x1600 - a bit short of 3k).

    Stuttering happens when the GPU needs a texture to render a scene, but the texture is not in VRAM. It then needs to read the texture off the drive (and consequently dump an unused texture out of VRAM). Just use high textures and you should be fine.
     
  19. Solandri

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    1st gen = Nehalem (32nm)
    2nd gen = Sandy Bridge (32nm, new core design)
    3rd gen = Ivy Bridge (22nm, same core design as Sandy Bridge)
    4th gen = Haswell (22nm, new core design)
    5th gen = Broadwell (14nm, same core design as Haswell)
    6th gen = Skylake (14nm, new core design)

    Note that Broadwell is Haswell (same core design). It's just been shrunk from 22nm to 14nm, and the iGPU redesigned. Expect little to no performance improvement, only lower power consumption. Depending on your needs, this may or may not matter.

    2H2015 for Skylake is a very aggressive schedule for Intel, considering they haven't even announced regular Broadwell CPUs yet. I suspect 2016 is much more likely before you'll see significant quantities for products for sale using Skylake. (OTOH it's possible their Skylake design team is on schedule, and Broadwell was only delayed because of problems getting 14nm up and running.)
     
  20. Amal77

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    Yup, should be on maximum configuration.
    Actually you can see quite a difference from the updated picture from your link :

    High
    [​IMG]

    Ultra
    [​IMG]

    Although as you said, there are not many games that will get effected on 1080p. But still, there will be some.

    I was hoping to drop the resolution down on heavy games to let say 900p or 768p since 14" will still look good, as long as the frame rate and image quality are ok.

    I don't mind dropping the textures if it doesn't look much difference though.

    It will be a plus if it's HDMI 2.0. But I kinda doubt about that. I hope I'm wrong.

    Whatever it is, this laptop looks awesome, is very thin, very light, and very powerful. I will still gonna buy it. :)
     
  21. vinny3

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    For all us Canadians.

    Me: "Hi. Can you tell me when the p34w V3 will be available in Canada? Thanks! Vince"

    Gigabyte: "Dear Vincent G,

    According to our notebook channel sales, it should be available towards the end of January 2015. Thank you for your interest in our GIGABYTE notebook.

    Best regards,

    GIGABYTE Tech Support Team"



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    What are the chances of a demo at CES 2015 in a few days? :err:
     
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  24. Acnik

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    Three places on that page they wrote "970 6gb", and they wrote "970 4gb" in the specification table. With this type of inconsistency I would only trust what GIGABYTE wrote on their own web page.
     
  25. vinny3

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    ...and a 15.6 inch screen on the comparison table.

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    Just spoke to Alex at XoticPC, they haven't heard anything different about when they're supposed to receive the P34Wv3 (site still says Jan 15), but they also don't have a firm date from Gigabyte either. Hoping they're still on schedule for a delivery sometime next week or the week after.

    The new "K" line sounds interesting, what are the specs on the 965M's?
     
  28. Pixelproof

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    Gigabyte has now updated the website on the P34w V3 with even more info.
    It also seems like the P34w isn't at CES, I have at least not found any videos about it, but I may be wrong

    Btw, first post :D
     
  29. ChrisCS

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    So there's no broadwell upgrade for the CPUs?
     
  31. rehv

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    IIRC, Intel said they won't be releasing 4 core broadwell until mid 2015? For now, just web browser ones.
     
  32. Nand@

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    Not yet.. Maybe Mid 2015
     
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    why is the p34w comes with 970m 3GB Vram but the their aorus x3 comes with 6GB Vram? Id understand the argument that one is a gaming machine and the other one is like a discrete machine... but they have a 970m. it doesn't matter what shell you give it. its still a gaming laptop if your sticking the 2nd best tier model in a laptop. so just stick 6GBs in both.

    I could do with it. I want to crank up gta 5 as much as and I know rockstar makes there games with settings based on the amount of video memory... but aorus is 40% more than the gigabyte version
     
  35. ChrisCS

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    I don't really think the extra VRAM would impact too much anyways. A desktop GTX 980 comes with 4gb and handles everything fine.

    My guess is that extra ram has to be cooled somehow and the P34's chassis cannot handle that.

    Also, there's no official word about it but an online reseller (can't remember which one now) has a preorder of the P34W with "BOOSTED VRAM" to 6GB, so who knows.
     
  36. sisqo_uk

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    that's cool. Ive seen the prices of the prices of the x3 with 970m and they are £1749. £200 more than the 870m versions for the same everything really :/ and i can get a p35x for £1500 so that makes no sense for me. so although I was interested by p34w with 3gb Vram. it looks a hell of a lot more attractive now. that ill probably price up at £1200. im will to part that much on a machine ive never had experience with and has no trackstick like Lenovo lol. If it did id even pay £500 more
     
  37. Nivaku

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    Question guys,

    Is there going to be a Broadwell version of the i7-4710HQ Processor?
    I only keep hearing the M series which from my understanding makes it a fanless unit.
    How much of an improvement and temp decrease?
     
  38. heavenly_wild

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    From my understanding of the M series, it is aimed more at portable devices like Ultrabooks or ultra thin devices.Its main feature is that it runs cooler, is fanless and helps increase battery life. There is no raw processing power though so don't expect to see it in any gaming laptop..
     
  39. Amal77

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    Another video :

     
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    I thought that notebook was going to hit the deck FOR SURE in that video.
     
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    I spoke to Patrick today at Xoticpc about the discrepancy between their site and Gigabyte's. He said there information directly reflects what Gigabyte gives them, not what Gigabyte lists on their website. He submitted the information to the marketing team to verify.

    I read somewhere that Gigabyte had original intentions to deliver it with 6GB VRAM, however, now that it is about to come to market, it will have 3GB VRAM. I am not sure of their reasoning for the change.
     
  43. vinny3

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    Haha he was flinging it around like a pizza.

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  44. vinny3

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    They said they were having heat issues with the 6 GB card.

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    Another discrepancy is the CPU, i7-4720HQ on Gigabyte's website, i7-4710HQ everywhere else. The two CPU are identical except for the 4720 being clocked at 100MHz more.

    I'd have that rather than not...
     
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    So what are the advantages of the 34w over the g now that's it's only 3gb. Will it be worth the higher price tag? My np8255 took a dump on me and want similar specs in a much smaller frame and trying to decide.
     
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    The 970m is still a much better performer than the 860m, but it's up to you if you want to pony up for a similar performance to a desktop gtx 760/770
     
  48. Pcguy07

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    Delayed another 10 days to January 26th according to Excalibur PC.
     
  49. Solandri

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    Don't be put off all the folks here disappointed that it's "only" 3GB of VRAM. That basically means you'll have to turn textures and maybe filters down from ultra to high. The amount of VRAM has no impact on performance unless you're running out of it. And that's almost entirely a function of textures (uncompressed and stored in VRAM) and filtering (intermediate resolution textures created and stored in VRAM).

    On a 1080p screen, you're going to be hard-pressed to tell the difference between ultra and high textures. 3GB might be disappointing if you planned to hook this up to an external 4k monitor and play games. But I'm not sure the 970m has enough power for that, and the P34W only has HDMI out which typically can't go higher than 2560x1600 @ 60 Hz. (HDMI 2.0 can do 4k, but I haven't heard of any laptop supporting it yet.)
     
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    Apparently now its only delayed until Friday...

    Make up your minds Gigabyte! I haven't had a laptop since my M11x started on fire last year!

    Edit: They'll be in next week!
     
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