New: Aorus X7 DT

http://www.engadget.com/2015/09/22/nvidia-geforce-gtx-980-laptops/

In the pictures section, a "aorus X7 DT" is mentioned. Wonder if they got rid of the SLi in the chassis and left a single GTX "Desktop" 980 in there? Who's buying?

 

I'd be interested in this . I like the Aorus styling but don't particularly want to deal with SLI...


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Video comparing the new X7 with desktop 980 vs Clevo P870DM and desktop performance:

 

I was just thinking how great an X7 would be with a single card but same size. I do like SLi, but I want the top of the line.
Aorus has done well with creating unique things so far, so let's see what they can do!

 

lol by the time alienware sorts out the drivers for amplifier with 980 in it to stop bsod, aorus will be selling half as thick unit with the 980 in it... just keep on punishing those early adopters alienware lol

 

It sounds to me like it will be sli.

 

Nm it does seem like a single 980

 

Yea, it would be very hard to push even a single 980 in a laptop chassis. putting dual 980s would most likely create heating problems unless you have a 18-20" laptop.

 

Yea, it would be very hard to push even a single 980 in a laptop chassis. putting dual 980s would most likely create heating problems unless you have a 18-20" laptop.

 

I've been living under a rock, but I guess this is how the 990M project turned out? The X7 DT seems badass, especially since it could come equipped with a higher-res display now that 4K 17.3-inchers exist. 4-8 phase... that's a lot of power. I wonder how they'll limit the GPU when running on battery. Actually, I wonder about battery life in general. If it carries the same capacity as the current X7 and Optimus works well with these huge chips, then it could outdo the SLI version, which frankly left the bar low.

 

But then maybe there is a 970 sli project?

 

I would think the 980 would run cooler and more stable than the 970 sli the DT might be a perfect compromise between size and performance... It already weighs about the same as most 15" laptops.

 

the aorus x7 pro runs stable and cool with the 2 mobile chips.

I guarantee without any doubt that 2 970m sli gpus run much cooler than a single 980m much less a desktop 980 gtx.

back in the orignal x7 the 2 gpus had different temperatures because there was something screwy about how they did it then. not now at all.

So no without a doubt that is incorrect. A single 980 desktop is going to be so hot its ludicrous. lets see how they deal with it.

Sli is what aorus does to reduce heat

 

Interesting id love to see some numbers from the model and how they compare. Haven't seen any specs on the DT or what it has under the hood so to speak. Also wondering if it's 980 is the same TDP as the other models. As far as the performance goes those cited in the YouTube preview were very close to those of the much larger chassis clevo and msi

 

id love a single desktop 980 over 970m sli

 

Me as well that's why this intrigues me... I'd rather have a 15" chassis but the x7 is the next best thing I suppose.

 

yeah im in the same boat, the x5 is really big for a 15inch, so I assume this might be a bigger than a regular 17inch as well. But for a 980 in the 'thin' form factor it would be worth it.

 

actually it doesn't run that cool. a desktop 980 (without overclocking) actually has a base tdp of 165 watts. 970m's are 100 watts each, so you're dealing with a total of 200 watts. Without overclocking, the aorus dt would run cooler than one with a 970m sli. The fact that it will (hopefully) have a skylake processor will let it run even cooler.

Also links for proof:
Aorus: http://www.notebookcheck.net/Aorus-X7-Pro-Notebook-Review.129568.0.html
970m SLI: http://www.notebookcheck.net/NVIDIA-GeForce-GTX-970M-SLI.129392.0.html
980: http://www.notebookcheck.net/NVIDIA-GeForce-GTX-980-Notebook.150599.0.html

 

That is totally ridiculous.

Watts is a measurement of power usage
Temperature is a measurement of heat
The temperature of two gpus both of them in sli is much lower than a single 980 gpu.

That is why they do it in sli

The x7 is much cooler than thr p37x. By like 15 to 20 c. Which is sonething like 50 degrees f.
The desktop gpu could be even more. It will need a different way to cool it.

 

The number tdp has only a vague relation to tenperature so you can use notebookcheck to find the temperature also because they test the laptops. Go to reviews of thr x7 and a clevo but find apples to apples. The 980 m is much hotter like dangerous heat

 

According to this the 970m sli beats it in all scores.
http://www.notebookcheck.net/Nvidia-announces-GeForce-GTX-980-for-notebooks.150756.0.html

Also most of the models usr the broadwell chip. Except the clevo that uses desktop chips

 

I think I would still prefer the 980 over 970m sli. Not every game scales with sli and those that don't you are back to one 970m. My current laptop has a 980m. I'm considering moving from Alienware to Aorus when the 980 is available.. Depending on heat and throttling.

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It's all speculation at this point. Going to have to wait and see an independent review and benchmarks from someone other than nvidia. The review I saw was that the x7 dt was running at 82c while running the triple screen demo at nvidia, which is not by any standard unreasonable or "dangerous".

http://www.gamersnexus.net/news-pc/2103-full-gtx-980-gpu-now-in-laptops-and-overclocking

But I'm with you there's just too many issues with sli a single 980 will probably be preferable to myself and a large portion of the enthusiast market. To each his own though.

 

980 desktop grade should always beat out 970m sli right?

 

The thing is my 980m runs in the low 70s while overclocked 135 core. My 4980hq although almost never boosts runs at a steady 75c at 2.8hgz. Some of these temps I'm seeing for the 970m sli setup on the Aorus are way too hot for my liking. 80s for gpu and 90s for cpu? Nooooo way!

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Interesting comparison, however the aorus does have a much better cooling solution than the p37x. Of course it's going to run cooler. I'll just agree to disagree with you until it's actually released, and the reviews are out for it.

 

Theres no game out i have seen thst doesnt work with sli in 2015 except batman arkhm
Who knows what you think scales means. But whateve you think it means sli has no effect on scaling anything.

 

No. The 980m is much hotter than thr 970m
Thats it.its hotter i clevos alienwares whatever
The 970m is cooler. It is cooler inaorus alienwares clevos whatever.msi.
It will always be that way. That is because of the laws of physics.
If you would like to disagree with the facts that is fine.

It wont change the facts though.

You don t havr to wait for anything. Thd 980m is out now. The 980 gtx will br hotter.
It will be the same temp it is in a desktop except more.
Which is still way hotter than 970m sli.
Temperature is measured in celcius or farenheit.

 

i don't think this thread is titled "justify my purchase of 970m sli." We are all eager to see how the first gen desktop gpu in a thin laptop chassis performs. Can't wait to see some actual benchmarks and independent review.

Cheers.

 

yeah, i think we're all just excited to see 980 desktop gpu in an aorus x7. Lots of people like myself aren't huge sli fans, when it works it works but it doesnt always.

 

This exactly! Haha... Just having one beefy card has always been preferred than 2+ cards. I never wanted to deal with sli or crossfire even for desktops. I also am a big mmo gamer and I have a friend that runs sli and seems a lot of MMOs do not scale well with sli. That's basically what brought me here... A thin laptop solution with one beastly card sounds awesome. I just hope they can keep temps down with the 980. That's my main concern.

Is this refresh happening this October? Just speculation right now?

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Exactly my mind set! And the Aorus is really good looking... A better choice than the underpowered Razer Blade Pro which I have also looked into.

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the aorus model uses the same broadwell and I believe all the others do to except for the one that uses desktop skylake. but there may be a skylake version too obviously not initially.

when it comes out.... it will be a really hard sell vs the aorus x7 gsync which for most things is way better. I think the big thing is going to be the 4k screen

 

I have an x5,
and during a stress test my gpus are at 61c and my cpu is at 86. thats what sli does is it gets the gpus frosty cold.

actually when its not doing a firestrike physics my gpus are at 44c during gaming ( I only play fallout 3 at the moment)

thats what sli does is it makes the gpus much cooler. The aorus set up has 2 fans for the gpus, but none for the cpu it sends heat pipes to the gpus from the cpu.

older cpus were hotter for the x7 than the newest one which runs really cold.

the very first x7, what would have been called v1 has a heating kind of bad design that has just one cooler for the cpu and one gpu, and the other is seperate and it makes the two gpus a different temperature
but stay away from reviews of different gpus cpus etc from different models. And your cpu, is way overheated avoid a set up like you have right now. My laptops way more modern I guess building on bad haswells and it throttles never no matter what. I did repaste it.

whereas a p37x, it has 2 fans also, one for cpu one for gpu.

everything about it is hotter but especially gpu. because the aorus has 2 coolers for its gpus where as a standard laptop has just one.

this aorus rt will have a cooling set up like a p37. it might have 2 fans on the gpu like the sager 8652 does.... except....its too thin


sli makes gpus cooler, i mean think about it for two seconds.... the gpu is much cooler to start with.... because its a cooler gpu made for a smaller laptop.... how does it get hotter? I mean it could but its purpose is to be cooler.
where as a desktop gpu is going to be hotter.... because its for a desktop.... right? Its just the people who dont have a clue who are talking here right everyone else gets that....

 

Whether or not people understand that desktop cards run hotter doesn't matter unfortunately. What we have is nvidia now making these desktop cards for laptops... Which means they need better/new ways of cooling so everyone's laptops don't fry in the first month



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Yeah I don't think anyone here is interested in the merits of 970m sli x7 or we would be in the owners lounge

 

i hear you. one of the other laptops had some weird cooling thing that no one will use.

some of the laptops are ones that use mxm cards. like the titan, it doesnt have gsynch even and probably never will as a 18.4 inch gsynch panel will probably never be made...

on paper the aorus 980 could be a really bad idea. I hope there is something good about it.

huge adapter. And actually lower performance.
Its like upgrading a ferrari with a chevy 350...

the first design is laptop then put something hot in it that uses tons of power

 

everyone here is interested in the facts. Which means.... nothing you posted.

youre not interested in 970 sli which is why you dont know anything about it. But you have opinions on it.

 

Lol erroneous

 

Now as for the topic on hand, I spoke with a vendor who informed me that there are no system specs or release dates available as of now... So I guess we just wait till more information becomes available!

 

i actually confused you with the other person. so i apologize.
but I had to spend time explaining some basics for people interested in the facts because some people spent some time posting bs.
just as a help for people shopping.

the aorus x7 comes with a model that has the same broadwell chip.

the asus x700 has the skylake overclocking chip.

the titan has 2 980s. possibly you can upgrade your titan with them
just more facts I got from the aorus board.

there are system specs available right now for all of them actually.

 

So essentially we want the new model with this 980 to be rocking a skylake... Since they will run cooler than the current line of crap we have... Sorry I'm bitter over my Alienware. Not really because of heat but stupid power limited throttle drives me up a wall. Anyways not to get off topic....

I absolutely love the design of the Aorus. Thin and powerful. I was reading these 980 laptops are supposed to be this year. So its gotta be oct-nov. Can't imagine a December release.

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october yes

the first ones seem to be exactly the same models we have now with the broadwell chips.

Except for the asus gx700 that seems to an entirely new skylake model. with skylake overclocking cpu also.
if the other models have one like that one upcoming also ( likely) they are not advertised yet.

from what i have seen but mostly from the clevo models it needs a 500 watt power supply?

i feel certain there will be alienware models too but they are conspicuously missing.

 

The aorus rep had a vague clue that they would be introducing something new dealing with cooling soon.

 

also fireball, when my machine was new it would cpu throttle during tests so I repasted it.

So thats a project to go through. But honestly I dont think anything can fix throttling on what are high end haswell cpus, either in alienware, aorus clevo whatever.

it doesnt really have to do with thinness or the manufacturer at all you are starting with a really hot thing.

but its a hobby you will have to take on, laptop cooling expansion. And believe me its all been done before. Laptops used to be way hotter and there are tutorials on making new heat pipes etc.

 

Oh my Alienware is repasted with gelid extreme... And had the MB replaced. My temps are perfect now and not thermal throttling but power limit throttling. You are correct though... That happens to all these HQ chips across the board. Sad

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by coincidence i repasted mine with the same brand.

 

Oh man would I have felt sheepish after that! Did it help at all? Maybe your paste job was still better than stock! I'm practically biting my nails waiting for the new models. My current laptop runs fine for the most part but I love my toys...

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if its <2499 I'm in.

 

Well... It would have to bea. Lot cheaper than the one they have already which is 2599...
So probably is.