Finally got my P37W.
Huge fan of it so far. Only gripe is no physical mouse buttons but I'll learn to live - it's nice Xotic threw in a Gigabyte mouse so I have that working on my couch, nonetheless, so that's sweet.
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Hi, quick question: I'm deciding between these two models of the P37X:
1. http://www.amazon.com/Gigabyte-Lapt...3?ie=UTF8&qid=1435526384&sr=8-3&keywords=p37x
2. http://www.amazon.com/Gigabyte-P37X...6?ie=UTF8&qid=1435526384&sr=8-6&keywords=p37x
It seems to me as though the only difference between the two is the CPU. Number 1 is equipped with the i7-4720HQ Haswell where as Number 2 is equipped with i7-5700HQ Broadwell. How big of a difference is there between the two? Which one is better and why? Would I save a significant amount of battery and reduce the CPU temperature significantly by going with the Broadwell model?
Now, I know some of you might be saying, "might as well buy the latest version," but I already ordered the Haswell model and it was too late to cancel, so it's shipping. I'm wondering if it's worth shipping back to get the Broadwell model. Thanks!Last edited: Jun 28, 2015 -
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Another question: I've been researching both the P37X V4 or the P35X V4, and I'm having a hard time deciding between the two. I'm leaning more towards the P37X currently (since I already ordered it but willing to return and replace), but in terms of specs and internals, they both look identical. If they both behave exactly the same, I'd certainly go for the P35X because it's basically a more portable P37X. Now, I would hope that P37X's bigger size would provide better temperatures and reduced noise level, and if that's the case, I'd go for P37X. The thing is, I don't know what the differences are between the two in terms of user experience.
Could anyone who has tried both P37X and P35X share their experiences with both, which one they'd recommend, and why? What makes the two different apart from the size? Why choose one over the other? Is there any point to the P37X model? As of now, it just looks like a heavier P35X model. What justifies the fact that the P37X is 1 pound heavier? Better thermals and fan noise perhaps? Please let me know! -
The P35X only has a 15" screen (with a super high res), if you're a gamer or someone who regularly uses a 24"+ screen on your rig (my regular monitor is a 30"), trust me when I say the 15" is TINY!
in fact, my P35X came with the 'normal' 1080p screen, because they accidentally put the wrong screen in my P35X (which is why I was able to RMA it and get the P37X instead), and even in 1080p version, the P35X comes with 125% windows/icon size by default because everything is so small otherwise... which can play havoc with some applications that don't like increased icon size very much.
also bear in mind that the P35X's 4k screen means at native res your games will run a lot slower than the P37X as you'll need double the horsepower to push 4k at a decent fps, you'll have to lower the res on all your games back down to 1080p to get the solid high fps on max graphics... so what's the point in the 4k screen?
and 4k res on a 15" screen is just... idiotic in my opinion.
the P35X does come with a sub-woofer mind you, but I really don't miss it since I use headphones most of the time when gaming anyway.
the P37X has a much larger screen (still 1080p), which really makes the difference when gaming. It also has 5 programmable G keys on the left (which I have never used to be fair, but some people will find them useful)
other than that, the P35X was practically identical to the P37X in every way... even the price wasn't much different I think it was an extra £100 for the P37X for me at the time. -
I did a GPU stress test using furmark and that started reaching 95c after about 10 minutes, but still performed a lot better than before repaste.
I see what you mean about the stock paste being THICK! mine was spilling out all over the edges of the die and everything, took ages to clean it all up.. really bad paste job there.
i'm now idling at 50c, fans are silent. all good stuffBlueneon likes this. -
Also, got my wireless stable with BT enabled. I removed the ProSet utilities entirely, and installed the 17.16.0.4 bare driver only. No more dropouts or slowdowns.Sheg likes this. -
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hi guys , im having a hard time now to decide what is the better laptop !
im stuck now with MSI GE72 and Gigabyte P37X , both laptops has same spec , but what is the better laptop ?
im only concern about the heat and the fans noise , i already do some research on the msi and i saw its good in cooling
the cpu degree was 86 C at maximum , and the gpu was 70 C under the heavy load
but what about the gigabyte ? i thinks its slimmer than msi , so maybe it will get very hot ?
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Once I dig up one of my micro to SD adapters, I'll post some thermal images of the P37W idling and under load.
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Hi yazan! Had the same conundrum, but gone for Gigabyte as it lighter.
I checked temps before repaste and after ( I used GC Extreme).
1) GPU - Furmark 20 minutes without paste - 76 degrees after 3 minutes, 77 degrees max.
2) GPU - Furmark 20 minutes with paste - 76 degrees after 8 minutes, 76 degrees max.
3) CPU - LINX 0.6.5 - 20 minutes without paste - 92 degrees
4) Cpu - LINX 0.6.5 - 20 minutes with paste - 77 Degrees max
So, looks like i put paste on GPU incorrectly, as it didn't help much. But for CPU it helped enormously, and i happy with that result.
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but what about the fan noise ? is it that loud ? and what about the laptop ? is it getting hot ?
because someone told that it will get uncomfortably hot and loud while gaming !
Edit : i already check that the msi is a 2.7 KG , while the gigabyte is 2,9 but its thinner
and my question is what is beside the weight that give the advantage for gigabyte .Last edited: Jul 8, 2015 -
Sheg, can you check temps after 3dmark firestrike and 3dmark 11? It's good to know how it is when gpu and cpu are stressed at the same time as it only use same heatpipe.
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Hi guys,
Long time lurker first time poster. I've been looking for a decent laptop for a while and finally landed up with a choice between the P37X v4 and the Aorus X7 Pro, I'm leaning towards the P37X though. Now I'm not technically minded when it comes to laptops, so repasting and Undervolting are new concepts to me. I work in the oil industry so I'm constantly on the move, so good build quality is very important to me. If the laptop breaks down I don't want to wait for weeks to get back to civilization to get it repaired. Is the p37X worth forking out for?
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Prostar Computer Company Representative
Gigabyte's build quality is generally pretty good. Undervolting might not be necessary, although repasting can help substantially (depending on the compound used and the application). Just keep in mind that repasting requires accessing components you put at risk (potential for accidental damage).
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Thanks for the reply dude! I am a bit nervous about repasting so I'll put it through the ringer first to see if it's necessary. So I've decided to take the plunge and go ahead and buy the P37X, I'm happy with the specs and it's dimensions ^^
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Prostar Computer Company Representative
Cool! Repasting helps more with high temps, so as long as you don't find yourself pushing 90 C or more, you should be fine for quite awhile - just keep the laptop clean! Even a top notch paste won't do enough if there's dust, pet hair, etc. in the heat sinks and fans.
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Anyone managed to get this updates to windows 10 yet?
I am on attempt 20ish
Running out of things to uninstall -
So what's about the new bios ? Have you install it?
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Yes.. my reward for that was that the driver for intel management system is no longer compatible with the system
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Just to wind me up further.. the new bios breaks compatibility with the Intel management engine.. so even with a clean reset to factory settings the drivers are already in trouble.. and no surprise it failed to upgrade again.
Just for the record...
if you try to upgrade from USB you will see a BSOS with DRIVER POWER STATE FAILURE
this will eventually roll back to windows 8.1 showing a
Installation failed in the SECOND_BOOT Phase with an error during BOOT operations
0xc1900101-0x40017
if you upgrade via windows upgrade you will only get a
0xc1900101-0x40017 error
has anyone upgraded yet?
GIGABYTE P37X v4-CF1 Intel Core i7-5700HQ, 16GB DDR3L, 256GB mSSD + 1TB 7200rpm HDD, NVIDIA GTX980M 8GB GDDR5 - Windows 8.1 -
I've had the same problem ajbird...
Upon receiving my laptop, i encountered problems. After about 2 hours of the laptop being on, it froze, and was unresponsive. After restarting it, i could not get past the BIOS splash screen. I then reformatted the SSD and installed windows 7 on it, and it worked just fine. But now, i'm trying to update all my drivers. All drivers install just fine, but when i restart the PC i receive a BSOD with the error of igdkmd64.sys, meaning the Intel graphics driver is causing this. I cannot get back into windows unless i boot in safe mode, and uninstall these drivers.
The BSOD file shows 3 errors - dxgkrnl.sys , dxgmms1.sys and this igdkmd64.sys.
I've tried disabling the intel graphics with no joy, I've tried updating all the drivers, with every known driver i could find with no joy. I've tried updating the drivers with 3 different operating systems, 7, 8 and 10 with nothing changing.
If you guys recieve this laptop, be careful with updating the BIOS. I'm yet to find a fix for this. I cant install nvidia drivers until i can install these intel drivers. No gaming for me.
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Has anyone managed to disable secure boot? The option is greyed out in the bios (FD04).
I wanted to boot a linux distro off of a USB stick but secure boot won't allow it..
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P37W here, no problems with Windows 10 other than two games that needed some compatibility settings applied.
Installed upgrade on the first day of official release using through Windows Update. No crashes or other odd behavior. Also running the most recent BIOS and had no issues with Intel MEI. -
Hi,
I am choosing between P37X and P37W (v4 and older ones).
Top configuration of P37Xv4 would be easy choice, but the price tag is a little higher than I'd want to pay.
I do not see any serious disadvantages in P37X (v3?). Differences in tech specs are very small. On xoticpc.com they have P37Xv4 and just P37X. I assume P37X is the same as v3.
Do you guys know about any mechanical differences between P37 v3 and v4? Maybe one has better touchpad or keyboard or cooling or something else?
P37X (v3?) CF1 and CF2 supposedly come with Win 7 and Win 8 for no additional charge while it looks like for all other models of P37X and P37W I would need to buy Win 7 separately.
Also, for some reason P37X(v3)-CF1 is listed with IPS panel and almost identical (bigger SSD) P37X(v3)-CF2 without IPS (must be TN then). It might be a mistake in description, but I am not sure how I can confirm that.
Another option is P37W (gtx 970m is fine with me), but description says that v3 does not have IPS panel.
Can you guys confirm that your P37W or X (v3) has or does not have IPS panel?
Can you confirm that most models do not come with both Win 7 and Win 8 without extra $130 charge? I mean some free upgrade/downgrade option between 7 and 8. I am not interested in Win 10 at this time.
I also wrote to Gigabyte support, but they have not responded to my questions yet. xoticpc answered a bunch of other questions, but they are not sure about IPS panels in different models.
Thanks,
Mike -
Gigabyte tech support replied confirming that all P37X, P37Xv4, P37W, P37Wv4 models have FHD IPS displays.
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Anyone had any luck with Windows 10 yet? I'm debating updating the bios but it looks like people were having issues with the latest... Any advice?
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I did not update BIOS but I'm on 10 with zero issues.
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The misses will not let me near hers again to try.
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Well then sounds like I will not be trying that!
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Hello Guys!
I've got a few questions, i hope you get to me the right answers
My P37x is extremly hot - after a few minutes playing (no matter which game (World of Tanks, Battlefield 3 & 4, C&C RA3,...)) my cpu is at ~80-85°c and gpu is over 90°C (often 93-95°C). For my mind this is to much.
When i use the manually fan controll at 50% the fps ingame falling down to 30-40 fps - cause of the overheat/throttle from cpu and gpu?
The fan is unbelievable loud - like a vacuum cleaner - i can't do a noise level test, but it must be over 60 db. - i will try it next time with my smartphone with a db-level test app.
I dont read the 19 pages above, cause i don't have so much time and my english is not very well, yet .
Greets from Austria,
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But these machines do get loud and hot. It comes with the territory of running such high end components in thin machines. -
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I'm new here and it looks like it will be my new home for a while. I am pretty much a desktop guy. I was a government contractor for a while and that led me to getting into the gaming notebook world. I haven't purchased a console since the 360 came out and I started gaming on PC's. I'm heading back across the pond with a new job and ended up with a p37w since I sadly melted my G74. Just so no one thinks it melted from the inside out, I was tuning my car and left it in the engine bay a bit too long. It is what it is lol. I started with a G72 that was second hand, then went to a g74 and now have a p37w. I was a bit worried that the 970m would not perform but Newegg had a great sale and I saved about 600 bucks on the W so that's the route I took. Ended up getting it about 1100 bucks cheaper than the X and needless to say was sold at that point. I am only a casual gamer anyways. On that note, the 970m is plenty for me and more. I'm not one that has to max stuff out 24/7 but it does not seem to flinch in most of my games even if I do max them. I don't game on the go and as I said before, don't do consoles. The thought of going back to a controller is not a good one. Most of the guys that contract buy TV's, Xbox's and tons of other sh*t that they have to ship home eventually that leads to having way too much invested into stuff that is not worth it. So that's why I got the p37. It does all of that for me and fits in my carry on bag, well sort of. So now that I rambled on and gave you a bunch of info you could care less about, here are my thoughts on this machine:
It's big, as most gaming laptops are. It is quite thin for what it is though
The 5700hq seems pretty good. I don't find myself yelling at it to hurry up as I did with previous gaming laptops.
The keyboard is lacking in my opinion. For some reason my eyes prefer a blue or red backlight on a keyboard. Needless to say its white and my choices are basically on or off. The macros are useless for me but that's not to say they are for everyone. I really only play shooters but I could see them being good for other genres. Overall the keyboards not terrible but there is something I don't like about it that I can't seem to put my finger on yet. Might just need a bit more time to adjust as we always do with new keyboards. One thing is for sure, The LED's for the keyboard bleed through the edge of every key like a mofo. Not a huge con, but annoying when I really need it.
It runs much hotter than my g74 but it's expected to since the g74 was almost twice as thick. Some complain the fans get loud, and they undoubtedly do get loud, but that doesn't bother me at all. With the heat gaming rigs make, I'd be a bit worried if it was silent.
The screen is beautiful for a 1080p display. I almost went with a 4k rig but have no regrets there.
Although I only use it on the go, I f*****g HATE the track pad. Give me physical buttons to click so I can feel where one starts and the other ends. Sensitivity is fine though.
When comparing it to previous gaming laptops I have owned, the speakers are surprisingly good. Still sound like laptop speakers, but all in all they seem to have good range.
All in all I like it. It's like buying a car. You pick the one you want based on what you like and it will usually come with a few things that drive you nuts as well. But even being the W model, it packs a damn good punch and for the price I got it, was damn near a steal. It is my first product from Gigabyte and I like it. Hopefully they go with better build quality in the future as far as the chassis goes but I'm sure as new composites get cheaper that will happen. Last but not least, and not directly related to the machine itself, I must admit Windows 10 is not so bad. I still love my 7 more, but at least it does not feel like a tablet like 8 did. Gotta give them credit for that. -
Can someone suggest a good hdd upgrade for this, I have one that came with a 1 TB non ssd, starts up a bit slow, I can feel the slower loading.
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@Rusmurf
Might not be what you want to hear, but if you want quicker booting and loading times an ssd is what you are looking for. If you are looking for a traditional hdd than do a quick google search on WD's color coding system to double check, but if I am not mistaking I think the black drives are the higher performers on a consumer level. I've always gone with blue myself though and never had any complaints. They already come with 7200 rpm drives though so your not going to get much of an improvement from anything but an SSD. Not sure if you can boot from the swappable bay but if not you could always try short stroking your hdd and add another hdd in the swappable bay for storage but again, performance will not be affected as much as your looking for. I already threw an ssd in mine and it is surely the way to go if your impatient but even with the oem drive mine was up and running in less than 20 sec consistently even after transferring over 500 gigs from my old laptop to it. I only got an ssd because of a newegg sale. Catch one on sale somewhere, you won't regret it. They are not painfully expensive anymore. -
Ok, I think I will go the SSD route then, any internal 2.5 ssd is ok? 500 gigs is plenty for my laptop, I try to keep it fairly lean.
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So I just put in a pre-order at HIDEvolution for the P37x v5 4K model and hopefully I'll be getting it within 2 wks or less.
I currently have the GS70-099 2QE and it's been great but I really want a 980m with 4K and MSI doesn't offer that in their slim line so I decided to take another chance with Gigabyte. Hopefully, the P37x v5 4k will be as good but I'm a little weary because of my bad experience with the P35x when it first came out. I had driver and heat issues early on and returned it after 2 wks with it. I paid good money for it and felt that i shouldn't have to put in so much effort to make it functional.
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http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820147373
Also here is a chart from TomsHardware that may give you a little info to help. Just don't purchase from the links at this site, they can be found much cheaper at place like newegg and TD.
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Regarding the keyboard backlighting, I'm very disappointed, they should allow you to decide what colors you want like how the MSI GS60/70 series is. When I had the P35x vX, I was very disappointed with the keyboard since mine sank in the middle and it felt cramped in putting a full size KB in a 15" laptop, hopefully, the P37x won't feel this way.
Regarding heat, hopefully the paste I order will help a lot. I know it did for my GS70 and from others who said to repaste.
Coollaboratory Liquid Ultra 100% Metal Thermal Interface - BEST PERFORMANCE - installed by HIDevolution+$50.00
4K, I'm not sure if I'll play in 4k but I'll try it out to see how much of a performance hit I get when using 4k compared to 1080p. Worst case scenario would be to always scale down to 1080p during gaming. I do wear glasses and have bad eyes, hopefully 4k won't be too bad on the eyes and scaling does a decent job. I hear Windows 10 does but you never know until you see it for yourself. Originally, I was going to just get the 1080p version, if i did, I probably would've received the laptop by now since I would've ordered it sooner since it took a few days for me to decide on 1080p or 4k IPS. I tell myself I can take advantage of the 4k but honestly i have only watched a few 4k movies / tv shows on my Samsung 4K and I'm preparing for the future. But honestly, I think I'm just buying it to have it and probably won't take advantage of it much. I should've just stuck with the 1080p version and waited until a more powerful GFX to be released to power a 4k screen. -
Hi,
I'm currently in search of a replacement for my sony laptop used for java development.
I've found the gigabyte P37W/X v5 well designed and to be a good replacement for my sony with 32gb and SSD 1 tb.
For me this laptop seems beautiful vs all others laptops in particular to the MSI GT72s (very fat !) which i'm regarding also...
My questions for owners of it :
1. In France, there is no P37w v5 available for the moment Does somebody know the availability ?
2. I need a secondary charger, where can i find one ? Compatibility with other standards ?
3. For my project, i will not used the GTX at all so i will stick with the intel GPU at work. (Maybe for Home gaming but not so often)
Can someone provide me temperature in idle CPU / GPU ?
Can someone provide me temperature after running 20 mins of only CPU intensive benchmark CPU / GPU ?
With CPU Intensive benchmark, it will be a good mean to know how the laptop will deal with Java/ Eclipse and thousands of classes.
4. Is the computer ready for Linux ?
5. Can i bought a warranty extension for it ?
Thanks for Your answers,
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This is an easy question. I just ordered a P37X v4 and some aftermarket RAM.
Can you adjust the RAM timings in the BIOS? Does Memset work with the laptop?
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Quick question - I have a P37X that is stuck on the Gigabyte BIOS start screen. The one with Press F2/F9 etc. Just wont move from there. Tried a USB keyboard, removing the existing one. Tried booting from a USB stick. Nothing. Have tested the SSD boot drive and its fine. Have disconnected the battery and BIOS battery for at least 5+ minutes and held the power button down too while in that state but we still are stuck on the initial boot screen.
Any suggestions?
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You could also remove the RAM (I'm hoping you have two modules), one at a time, and see if that makes a difference. Perhaps one of them are faulty.
If it is under warranty, I'd take it back though.
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Following on from people thinking about Re-Pasting their laptops I have made a quick high level guide on how to do this with the P37x-v5. I didn't capture my full min/max temps but they are definitely down to the point I recommend it to everyone with the P37. Once you guys see the paste job you will easily see how I have dropped my temps as much as 10 degrees in places.
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I am quite interested in seeing what your temps are under some serious load after the re-pasting. I considered doing it a while ago, but I'm not sure if it's worth it. The GPU hovering around 80 degrees, and the CPU around 90 when gaming is a bit of a shocker to me!HiHoeMan likes this. -
Before I re-pasted my GPU was hovering at high 70's - low 80's. My GPU has never caused me concern and it has always been at an acceptable temp.
The CPU however is what scared me the most. Usually high 80's and sometimes spiking in mid 90's which was not good!
Now I have put new paste on, I have never seen my CPU near 90 degrees and in places I have seen it drop 10 degrees.
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I have V5, and I got it at an amazing price, which is why I'm really considering keeping it, even if Gigabyte don't manage to sort out the sound It's even higher spec'd than my desktop!
I only have Just Cause 3, Dota 2, Mass Effect 2 (old but gold), and Battlefield 4 installed.
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