***Gigabyte P35X owner's lounge***

I've been looking round the forums and at reviews on line of various other laptop's and honestly the MSI GS70 in it's current 970M variation appears to have the least number of reported issues and the highest number of positive reviews, also in it's various forms it has been around the longest. Anyway still debating what to do, but am leaning towards just getting the GS70...

 

Far Cry 4 has arrived in the post! After my lectures today I will see if it runs at 3K & 1080p

I'm going to hate going back to the 780M. I sure hope it can handle the game OK at high settings. This 4 week wait is going to kill me now that I've experienced the awesomeness of the 980M.

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I'm in the same boat now. Part of me doesn't want to return the P35X but I know I should. Don't want to take a chance if they can't get the drivers straighten out.

Was thinking about the P35W and curious about it but if it's delayed then gotta cross that off my list.

Only laptop left is the GS70 970m 6GB which I should of stuck with before jumping to the P35X. Hopefully I don't run into any issues if I decided to get one.

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I may be opting for the P751ZM as I had no qualms with the P150EM back then. This one being thinner, but heavier by 0.3kg is nothing. My build however.... roughly 3K if I'm too lazy to get the parts individually.

 

Agreed.

I've given up and changed my order to an MSI GS70, unfortunately can only get it with the 3GB 970M in the UK. Now I just have to hope that The Witcher 3 doesn't end up requiring more than 3GB VRAM to look good (- I'm sure CD Projekt Red will optimise it better than The Evil Within, but still worried).

 

I didn't get very far in since it was the middle of the night when I played, but it ran great at default ultra at 1080. It hung around 60 much of the time but I saw it drop to 50 a few times. It looked great, but I may try dropping any settings I prefer off (like AA assuming it was on) and trying t at 3k.

I didn't see any graphical glitches and it played smooth and looked great, but I was only a little ways in (did the whole beginning twice because I missed an area you couldn't get back to and my OCD made me redo it to see what I missed)

 

Scan just changed due day of P35X CF2 to tomorrow. We'll see.

Regards

 

Oh dear... so I'm going to have to accept 30ish on my 780M then? Sounds pretty much exactly like FC3 performance. 1st world problems. I've been spoilt by the 980M.

It is good news that it is not much more demanding than the previous game - AC Unity this clearly isn't.

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Ouch no GS70 970m 6GB in the UK? Sorry to hear that. GL, yeah I believe Witcher 3 will be optimize and hopefully it won't tax any GPU too much.

My copy of Dragon Age arrives tonight hopefully they do a good job of optimizing the game.

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I have digital deluxe free for DA:I... EA insider friends working on Origin client.

Aside from that... sending the CF1 tonight as well. Well missed this one.

 

Count me in, im too a P35X shifting to GS70. The fact that i'm living in a place with 30c ambient makes me worried, hopefully it can handle the heat.

 

Should get to you on Thursday then, let us know if that works out.

Yeah, I think I saw an MSI rep saying that we won't get them till after Christmas. The only MSI GS[nn] with 6GB I've found is the cyberpower Fangbook Edge, but that isn't available till early Dec.

Let us know what you think of Dragon Age, was thinking I might get that if it's worth while.

 

GS70? Why not the GS60?

 

Most likely for more vRAM.

 

but the gs60 066 and 064 comes with 6Gb vRAM

 

Free, you lucky . :thumbsup: I did get the Deluxe Edition from Amazon but had to pay for it. Sorry to hear, you're returning your P35X. I'm also shipping mine out today via DHL. Hopefully, I won't be charged an arm and leg to ship it back.

Maybe due to no back light bleeding with the TN Panels and cooler than the GS60. Plus, the 3x msata are way more easier to access than the GS60.

 

And cheaper? At least it is here (UK).

 

But did you see this:?
http://forum.notebookreview.com/attachments/gigabyte/117831-gigabyte-p35x-v3-owner-s-lounge-dimension.jpg
3.4 kg
35,7 mm
It's not thin...

 

I had a P150EM. It needs replacing for my triple monitor display setup. They are both roughly the same size. For thin gaming laptops, I may have to wait for Skylake after P751ZM.

 

Wow. Temps + XTU plox?

 

Anyone know Japanese and willing to translate?

 

use google translator on the phone to help you translate.

 

FAR CRY 4 TIME!!!

Already feeling pre-emptive 980M withdrawal symptoms.

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HI all, I'm also new here...

Been looking for a replacement for my best laptop ever (Sony Vaio Z VGN-Z21xn). This nice little monster is running out of juice and has been through a lot. I have been looking for quite some time already for a worthy replacement for it, but can't really find something that has everything I wanted like this little beast had back in the day's. My main complain is the absence of full carbon casing ultrabooks with the right specks, all current laptop seems to have either aluminium or plastic. My carbon case has had its share of eating bricks and sharp objects, but still looks like its only half a year old. I'm really amazed by it and hoped to see a lot more carbon laptop frames. To bad...

Anyway.. I'm not here to advertise a 7 year old laptop from a brand that does not exist anymore...
I've been following a few topics on this forum from you guy's and they really helped me A LOT! Thanks everyone!

What I'm looking for in a laptop is:
- screen: Photoshop worthy Matte! FHD 14" or 3K 15,6"
- Good keyboard and mousepad
- Minimal a i7-XXXX HQ processor
- sleek and light weight design
- a reasonable graphics card
- Basically a hump of metal (or Carbon) that can keep a IT administrator/graphics freak bussy for a other 5 years.

I'm currently looking at the:
- MSI GS60
- Gigabyte P35X v3
- Clevo 650 SE, though I find this one a bit to big and heavy... little bit to far from a ultra book... `[({" but I would still do her "})]`

Bhhuuuuut I'm still not sure what to go for! >.< aaaaarrrgh~! ... not that you all care... just wanted to support all the mental, in-stable figures here that wrap there heads around the same subject by adding my own indecisiveness to the pool... more people more joy right?! X3

 

P35 v3 doesn't have the 'premium-built' feel, which have been point out by the soon-to-be-pre-owners in this thread, and the review from notebookcheck also used the word 'sub-premium' to describe the built quality. In short, P35 v3 might not be what you looking for.

Regards

 

Doubts about its long term durability is the 2nd main reason why I'm returning it in favour of the Clevo (other than the misbehaving Intel 7260 of course).

 

Going P751ZM here. Will wait for Skylake before returning to Ultra Portable Gaming scene.

 

Thanks DelFang,

I read about the solid (minimal flex) keyboard and stuff and thought at first that the P35X was a kinda though laptop... I'm kinda wondering if the GS60 and the P650 don't have the same scratch problem since there all hardened aluminium. of courses you have different alloy's... but it makes it really hard to know if they scratch easy or not...

I have read about 80 of the 128 pages of this topic, but I kinda missed the part where CakeFish started to have problems, I read about his scratch made by a USB cable... but was this really a big heavy scrats that shoudn't happen? Are there more people confirming the "silk touche skinn" of the P35X v3?

 

It was a tiny nick to be honest. I was just devastated that I'd managed to damage my shiny new precious so soon after I'd bought it. The troubles that came after involved the Intel AC 7260 wireless card and were the reason for me returning the laptop (we shall sadly part ways this Thursday). Basically, I can't use Bluetooth and WiFi at the same time as it throttles WiFi to ridiculously low speeds - i.e. can barely stream youtube videos when connected to Bluetooth speakers. Additionally, Bluetooth has another issue whereby my new mouse I bought lags all over the place; it's intolerable - but works fine with both of my older laptops. Then we have issues where occasionally the wireless card will be disabled upon boot and I have to manually run the troubleshooter to reset it before it can connect. I tried all driver versions available, nothing worked. Which is why I decided to abandon ship and go with Clevo, which I know to be durable and has the option for the Killer 1202 - which has not given me anywhere near as many issues in my old P170SM.

 

K. thanks Cakefish, I really loved reading your whole "adventure". Felt almost like reading a book ^.^

@LoneSyndal, Gonna look into yar P751ZM since I saw itsa a 15,6", maybe interesting to add to my list :3

 

Desktop CPU, Mobile MXM GPU, 4K Screen, Good rubberized keyboard, better cooling, no optimus. What negative besides battery?

 

Cakefish This problem regarding bluetooth and wifi, it's a problem of this model GIGABYTE? or just the laptop that you receive?
Do not think to ask for replacement of the unit?

 

Since you only need a 'reasonable' graphics card, I think the the GS60 3k with 970m ticks the most boxes for you. Thinnest, lightest, sleek hunk of metal, SteelSeries keyboard. Downsides include less than impressive track-pad and fan noise.

The only reason everyone was so interested in the P35X was becasue it had an absolute titan of a 980m inside its very slim 21mm chassis - it had the potential to be that elusive holy grail everyone (myself included) is after - desktop class graphics performance inside an ultrabook-ish body. Unfortunately, physics happens.

Thus, in my opinion, if you only need a 'reasonable' graphics card, then you shouldn't be looking at the P35X at all - the GS60 and P650SE with 970m would be better options.

 

Here's what I posted in the Far Cry 4 thread:

It more than likely is a faulty unit. No one else has been affected by these WiFi/Bluetooth problems in this thread. I did contemplate it, but I decided in the end to shoot for the Clevo as my hands on experience with the laptop has lead me to believe the Clevo in all likelihoods will be a bit more durable and robust. Not that this laptop is shoddily built, far from it - it's gorgeous, but being so thin and light it does feel 'delicate'. I'd rather something I feel a bit safer transporting around

 

I know this is kinda off-topic, but reading this thread and looking at the heat problems from CPU and GPU im wondering if you think a P35w v3 with 970m 6gb VRAM and a 4710-HQ CPU will have the same problems? Im about to pull the trigger on one, but im really nervous about the temperatures being as high as the P35X V3. Really want that 6gb VRAM though Sorry for hijacking the thread btw.

 

It should be roughly the same IMO. The difference of 100MHz isnt much and they have same TDP. If you tune down settings per game, should be more managable.

 

I just did a SECOND repaste of my CPU (yes I took the whole darn thing apart again, cost me over 2 hours to do it properly) and guess what, the same results. Mine is 50 degrees celcius at idle, not just 40 degrees celcius.
What are your ambient temps mate? This can't be happening!

 

That is idle without AC adapter. When plugged, it shoots up to 48-52C.

 

Alright, that explains. What power plan do you use unplugged? Power Saver?
When I ramp up the fans to full speed, I get 39 degrees on Balanced Plan plugged in. Else it's about 50C on Balanced Plan plugged in

 

Thank you sir!
Depressing answer, but an honest one. I guess I shall have to look elsewhere for a laptop that suits my needs.

 

Try P650SE/P651SG from Clevo.

 

Unplugged: Balance no turbo (maximum processing power at 99%). Modified further with undervolt between 50-70mV.

 

Thanks, appreciate your answers!

Ran a 3DMark Firestrike Benchmark with my current setup.
Results: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 980M video card benchmark result - Intel Core i7-4860HQ Processor,GIGABYTE P35V3
Temperature Graphs:



TMPIN0 = GTX980M

Fan speed is set to Auto (Low) in Smart Manager V3, 77mV undervolt, AS5 repaste and speed throtteled at 2.6Ghz.

 

Another review:
http://yooip.com/gigabyte-p35x-v3-notebook-review/

Regards

 

That must be the worst review I've ever read.

 

It's interesting no many big tech sites review this laptop, e.g. Anandtech, Tom's Hardware, etc. Anandtech btw, wrote 3 reviews for GT72.

Regards

 

That's some good temperature control there. Try with a GPU overclock. Use Nvidia inspector to max out the Core Clock by +135MHz. For memory clock, set it to +500 and slowly go by increments of 20 until it crashes. Keep the last value as your best without voltage tweaking.

Mine was +135/+580.

If the temperatures stay below 87C, your P35x is the superior one in terms of temperature control (with a Firestrike score of at least 8400 of course, just so I dont feel so down with my score of 8700 at Balance with Turbo)

 

Probably because there's not many American sellers with it released yet. Only time will tell.

 

"Gigabyte P35X v3 Notebook installs a high-quality WQHD+ screen with a resolution of 1920 x 1080 pixels "

LOL

@Freekers - set it to auto high at the least if you want to measure cooling performance, c'mon you're not giving it a fair chance!

 

Hi,

I've been following this thread pretty much since the beginning. For humor's sake, I'll inform you that I'm currently gaming on a Dell XPS M1730 with Intel Core 2 Duo T9500 and dual NVIDIA 8800M GTX SLI that I purchased in 2007. As an airline pilot, I decided that a desktop replacement was practical for me since I'm away about half the time. Anyway after lugging this thing around for 7 years (I've also measured the time as "3 kids" and "4 moves") I'm finally able to replace it. It weights 14.2 pounds, and while I've managed to carry it around that long, it's very heavy and inconvenient, but has always been a welcome sight on the hotel room desk. Anyway, the prospect of now being able to own something much thinner and lighter, but with excellent gaming capabilities, has me looking at the P35X with 980M and the MSI GS60 with 970M. Tl;dr is below btw.

I have a couple questions for P35X owners, but first let me quickly enlighten you on some of my purchasing concerns. Either way I'll be purchasing the FHD version of the GS60 or P35X so nothing will be run above 1080p (I know every one says 3k looks so great, but at only 15.6" I'd rather spend the money on extra solid state storage.) I play a variety of games, though no competitive online shooters. I do plan on playing Star Citizen a lot if it's any good, which runs on Cry Engine. The way I have them spec'ed, the P35X would cost $246 more than the GS60. I would have the P35X repasted with IC Diamond by the reseller and can prop up the back for cooling, but would rather not mess with voltage/clock speeds.

Things I like about the GS60
-Nicer keyboard (quality/custom backlighting)
-Hardly any hardware/driver issues in the owner's thread

Things that concern me about the GS60
-Fan noise complained of
-complaints of backlight issues (and one of bad ghosting) on the FHD panel
-Will always wonder if I should have spend the extra $246 on the 980M

Things I like about the P35X
-980M (about 30% higher frame on Crysis 3 according to notebookcheck, for less than 15% more than the cost of the GS60)
-somewhat controllable fan noise (at least has a quiet profile for non-gaming)
-better keyboard layout (windows key on correct side, plus no weird fonts)
-Internal optical drive that can be removed to save weight (I'll need to buy an external one if I go with the GS60)
-no complaints about fan noise or screen issues (though I'm not sure I've seen any comments on the FHD)

Things that concern me about the P35X
-CPU throttling due to heat (but will it still be faster than a 970M overall?)
-complaints of driver/hardware issues to the point that people are sending them back

Overall I'm heavily leaning towards the P35X. It is more powerful than the GS60 and it's issues seem more solvable than the GS60 (hard to solve a bad IPS panel), yet I don't see many in the owner's lounge returning the MSI. On the other hand, already 2-3 out of maybe twice as many owners here are returning their P35X's.

Tl;dr

Ok so finally my main questions:
To those with the driver power state BSODs, it seems it is not happening to everyone, and have those who had them figured out a workaround that, while inconvenient, still allows you full use of the machine? Is it not extremely likely these driver issues will be resolved?
Is there anyone not having strange glitches with the P35X?
Regarding the faulty wifi card, would it not be better to just put a different card in there rather than return the whole thing?
To those unhappy with the P35X, would you rather you had a GS60?
Is it better to have a 980M with a CPU that can't turbo in a game, or a 970M with a CPU that can? Will CPU throttling cause stuttering that will be more irritating than a generally lower frame rate?
Does anyone have the 4710HQ who can comment on any throttling or the FHD version who can comment on the panel?

Are there any solid reasons to avoid the P35X to the point of getting a machine with a slower GPU?

Thank you so much.