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    ***Gigabyte P35X owner's lounge***

    Discussion in 'Gigabyte and Aorus' started by Cakefish, Nov 4, 2014.

  1. RMXO

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    The only time I use factory image is when I re-sell the laptop and go back to factory image. Of course, I would of had to make an usb factory image backup

    Yeap, I always do that to all my friends, family, personal & work systems.
     
  2. RMXO

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    +1 in agreeance

    I wished I did testing with the factory image before adding my msata's to find out if it had any issues or not.
     
  3. maxheap

    maxheap caparison horus :)

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    Holy... is there anyone from the initial batch without any problems? Seems like everybody is suffering from something, no? At least I think these should be driver problems though.
     
  4. Cakefish

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    In my case, I still don't know whether it is the phone or the laptop. I've just tested all of my USB devices and only the Nexus 5 is affected. If it were hardware fault, surely all USB devices would play up and not work properly? Now I must work out what is the difference between my Gigabyte and my old Clevo and Samsung notebooks for this to occur...
     
  5. maxheap

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    I had faulty single USB port before (razer, it still doesn't work), I wasn't talking about you Cake, others are suffering from serious issues, RMXO might have a faulty 980m (btw I wouldn't settle down to 1080p to overcome a problem, make sure you fix it, otherwise RMA, it might give up on you during a much more critical time).

     
  6. Cakefish

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    It's not a faulty USB port as other devices work absolutely fine in all of the USB ports and the Nexus 5 will display this disconnecting behaviour in all ports. It's not a faulty phone as it works on my old Samsung laptop.

    Yeah, it seems their problems far outweigh mine, I do agree. RMXO, did you run sfc/scannow in the CMD window like I suggested a while back? (or was I responding to someone else's query? I can't remember)

    I'm going to update all drivers on my Samsung and see how my Nexus 5 responds...
     
  7. bigspin

    bigspin My Kind Of Place

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    The are some issue reported about Nexus 5 and windows 8.1, try to google it.
     
  8. LoneSyndal

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    The format has been amazing... no errors or performance slowdowns even after installing unsigned drivers.
     
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  9. RMXO

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    I got 3DMark to run but only with OEM Intel & NV drivers. Once I upgrade to the latest drivers, 3DMark doesn't work so I'm baffled. I'll wait until the next new version comes out and try again. I'm going to game like crazy this wkend after I repaste and mod my U3 for the final test. If gaming on FFXIV ARR and D3 with no issues, I'll just keep it and worry about it another time. So much waste time so far and I just want to enjoy my expensive purchase for now.

    Stupid KB is a big time oil magnet. I just washed my hands with soap and see oil marks. =(
     
  10. LoneSyndal

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    When I first installed newer nvidia drivers, it crashed pc but it finished. I think something is up with the initial setup by GB. After format, everything installed perfectly.
     
  11. maxheap

    maxheap caparison horus :)

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    Yepp clean install should be a good start.
     
  12. RMXO

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    I've reinstalled about 4 - 5 times now. If the next new NV drivers fails with 3DMark, I'm going to RMA it.

    Sent from my SM-N910T using Tapatalk
     
  13. LoneSyndal

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    You already did a windows format? Dang. Going through OCUK or GB warranty?
     
  14. maxheap

    maxheap caparison horus :)

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    If clean install + whql didn't work, I would RMA it asap. Sorry for you bro :( At least you have a great substitute gaming rig that should serve you well enough!

     
  15. RMXO

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    Probably do that sooner or later. Just gonna give this wkend another shot with a repaste and gaming test. If I game with no issues does 3DMark really matter?

    Sent from my SM-N910T using Tapatalk
     
  16. LoneSyndal

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    No, but problems can pile up and create more severe issues. 3DMark failing is just a sign of how unstable your drivers are.
     
  17. RMXO

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    Gotcha, guess during this time I'll think it over if I want to stick with this laptop or go with the GS70 6gb originally.

    Sent from my SM-N910T using Tapatalk
     
  18. Cakefish

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    Ummm you guys must have cursed me... now I'm getting BSODs due this infernal driver power state failure - ?! Just doing stuff in windows, not gaming.

    Edit: literally happening every few minutes now... seriously what is going on?!!!

    Sent from my Nexus 5
     
  19. LoneSyndal

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    Was bound to happen. Format is good so far. Did a bunch of heavy edits with no issues.
     
  20. Cakefish

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    What do you mean, bound to happen?

    Literally every few minutes. This is ridiculous.

    How could it go wrong so suddenly?

    Sent from my Nexus 5
     
  21. RMXO

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    Just a sign in telling you need to do a fresh install sadly.

    Sent from my SM-N910T using Tapatalk
     
  22. Cakefish

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    By fresh install, do you mean from the recovery partition? Or completely new? Because I don't have a recovery disk.

    Edit: performing a Windows Reset now...

    Sent from my Nexus 5
     
  23. Porter

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    Doing a complete recovery from the recovery partition (F9 on boot up) fixed that issue for me, out of curiosity was it only when on AC power? I suppose you never had a chance or reason to try on battery. I had mine at work only using battery and it was fine, as soon as i got home i figured out it only was an issue on AC power.

    I have issues with my Note 3 phone doing what yours was on my ports too, but sometimes it stops and others it doesn't. It's not really an issue for me as I don't ever charge my phone that way.
     
  24. RMXO

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    I mean new installation of OS but since you don't have that. Maybe a window reset is good.

    If you're still having issues then maybe make a recovery USB. If u need help making one I can help out since I was successful in making an uefi USB recovery flash drive

    Sent from my SM-N910T using Tapatalk
     
  25. Cakefish

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    Yeah I'll make a recovery USB from windows itself. Install from that and see how it goes.

    Edit: it refuses to boot from recovery USB drive? Gives an error that it doesn't have the right files.
     
  26. LoneSyndal

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    I used the built-in Windows 8 format option.Go to "Change PC Settings" using the right side bar, go to Update and Recovery>Recovery>the middle option.

    EDIT: If you dont really want to lose all your files, use the Refresh option.
     
  27. maxheap

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    You had awful amounts of paste above the die that was spread on the chip right? You can ***very carefully*** (I am not taking any responsibilities) try cleaning that (you can easily kill the card by doing this, so choose at your own risk). ALSO make sure there is adequate padding on top of vrams and transistors (if there is any temperature build up on these areas card is going to shut itself down for safety, which might be causing this problem as well).

     
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    If you have a bottle of IPA and static-free wipes, it should be fine. I do it all the time.
     
  29. RMXO

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    Why does my desktop look like this when I just minimized out of a game and when i quit a game? GFX card related?

    OK, so I just installed the last NV xxx.65 from laptop2govideo and 3DMark works.

    Going to repaste tomorrow and give it this one last shot since it's the weekend and can't ship out until Mon.

    when playing FFXIV ARR yesterday I was getting 80+ FPS, today I'm only getting 30 or less FPS. I'm so baffled. Really tempted to email OCUK and ask for a refund. Probably going to order the MSI GS70 6gb. I can live with back light bleed if everything else works perfectly. Shame I used my Amazon account and paid via Amazon Payments. They take forever to send funds to your bank after a certain amount.

    3dmark test with L2GV lastest drivers http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/4721459
     

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    It seems like they've just about hit the holy grail of gaming laptops! Thin, small form factor and powerful! I was just starting to look at a replacement laptop when I heard about this. To those that own one already, what do you guys think of it? What do you recommend new owners doing to it when they get it? What were some lessons learned? I've skimmed through a lot of this thread and read about high temps, and over various issues (most due to tinkering haha). But so far I don't see anything that would hold me back. I'm definitely ready to downsize from my 17 inch behemoth... I'm done lugging that around! I travel way too much for it and I have bring my work laptop on those trips too... thin and light would be nice for a change.
     
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    Another option is to use AIRDROID. it is awesome for wireless file transfer between your android and laptop.
     
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    Probably a good call, are you going for a refund or a replacement?
     
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    Just a thought for all you guys having BSOD's & other weird issues, and then solving it (possibly yet to be found only to be a short term fix) by doing a clean Windows reinstall, I have a possible theory on this. If you're running an undervolt on your CPU (a lot of you are) and it's not 100% stable then it could be causing operating system corruption as small errors start building up from a borderline stable undervolt. I've found in the past from undervolting CPUs and also with system RAM overclocking that operating systems & games can appear stable even though these errors are building up, often times this instability was only ever highlighted by running Memtest86+ for the RAM and Prime95 for the CPU: a couple of passes for Memtest86+, and a few hours of Prime95. If I was you I'd test out your CPU undervolts thoroughly.
     
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    Hey guys, can anyone give their opinions on the size of the laptops bezel? Does it bother you when you're using the laptop? Pictures would be appreciated :) Thanks.
     
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    So the question is, is anyone having BSOD/odd crashes without an undervolt?
     
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    This probably happened because you gamed at full screen with non-native resolution, then when you return to desktop, Windows got confused with resolution change and changes your Windows Theme (right click - Personalization).

    Regards
     
  37. Robbo99999

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    True, but some people could be having BSOD & crashes for other reasons apart from an unstable CPU undervolt, so it doesn't necessarily preclude my theory for all people out there. It's a good question to ask all the same to gain a sense of the situation though.
     
  38. DelFang

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    Bezel never bothers me that much, my Alienware has 11" display but size of an 13 laptop. However, I'll be able to tell you more next week when I receive my CF2 (touch wood).

    Regards
     
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    In the spate of BSODs, XTU automatically reset the voltage back to default after the first crash. It always does that. The BSODs continued. It was occurring even when restarting the computer. It also refused to recognise external HDDs for that period. Booting into safe mode stopped the crashes, but of course, can't live in safe mode permanently.

    Sent from my Nexus 5
     
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    Sure, but once you have corrupted the OS through an unstable undervolt the only fix is to repair Windows (ie reinstall it, or restore from a stable image that was made prior to your undervolting activities), so the problems would persist once they start occurring even if you've reverted to stock voltage. That's if your problems have been brought about initially from an unstable undervolt. (If this is the case you should also either remove the undervolt once you have restored from a stable image, or do extensive testing to determine if your undervolt is stable - e.g. Prime95 for a number of hours).
     
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    Fairly sure it's not associated with undervolting - although your hypothesis is valid Robbo. I experienced these BSODs prior to any undervolting. Cake's helpful suggestion about scannow repaired one file. A number of other things have changed since then, so I cannot say definitively, but I haven't had a BSOD since. I am assuming it is driver related. I did notice that gigabyte smart update application took the official Intel chipset driver *back* down to 10.0.22.0. I cannot recall what the previous version was but it remember noticing it was a higher number. So I don't know if that was causing problems or not. Anyway, my current driver configuration is in line with the smart update manager "official driver" settings and sourced via that app, with the exception of nvidia graphics driver which is at 9.18.13.4465 courtesy of nvidia experience.

    Naturally, shortly after posting this, I'll get a blue screen :)

    I'll be using the laptop more over this weekend so it will be interesting to see how stable it is. Generally, things only break when you change them, but I'm still installing games and apps so we'll see. Finally, I'm on the original gigabyte OS build - I haven't done a clean windows install (although am thinking I do want to move to pro so that might be on the cards).
     
  42. Cakefish

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    Oh for f***s sake - seriously this is absolutely ridiculous now. ANOTHER PROBLEM. This time WiFi speeds drop to a crawl when bluetooth is enabled and connected to my external speakers. Updated drivers, rolled back to original drivers. Nothing works.

    I think that 99% of my issues are being caused by the Intel Wireless AC 7260 card - laggy bluetooth mouse, interference with wifi speeds with bluetooth enabled, DPC latancy issues etc.

    I am seriously on the verge of giving up. I loved this laptop when I got it but now it is only bringing me pain and stress. I am seriously thinking about bailing over to the Clevo P650SG. I know, madness I'd even contemplate that but this is driving me bonkers now. Absolute joke.

    I've done a repaste so I don't even know if I'll be able to return or not from OC UK. I have enough money to buy a completely new laptop right now with spare leftover but then won't have anywhere near enough money for an upgrade next year and it will be £1800 down the drain. Wow, just wow.
     
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    Do you need to replace those thermal pads over the vrm's after repasting?

    Sent from my GT-I9300
     
  44. Robbo99999

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    I would think you could return it after doing a re-paste, there weren't any 'warranty void if removed' stickers were there? If you're concerned maybe you can read the fine print associated with getting a refund within the 'x' number of days of purchase. It does seem like the P35xV3 is very unreliable - it doesn't look like a good choice because of that, but also the temperatures & throttling (whether that last point will be better on other really thin laptops is debatable too though).

    EDIT: although if I remember rightly you did butcher the screw heads a little on your heatsink trying to remove them, or was that the HDD bay, but chances are they won't even open it up to inspect it thoroughly.
     
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    My BSOD did start after running an undervolt all day and playing games with it (seemed fine). Thinking as Robbo is I have chosen not to attempt undervolt again yet. I haven't even updated to the latest nvidia drivers yet. I also have not even touched overclocking yet. I just want to run stable a few days before I start making changes again.

    So far I have only had the USB disconnects and reconnects with my phone, which went away after a few mins of swapping ports. That one may come back since it just went away on its own, but I rarely every connect my phone so it's not something I'm going to spend any time with right now.

    I have had slow internet speeds and disconnects on wireless, but it appears to be my new router since my desktop (also on wireless) disconnects and is slow during the same times. I've been looking for any issues so when one pops up I want to find out if it's the laptop or not.

    When I do my repaste next week I hope I don't cause any issues...
     
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    You can return as long as you didn't damage notebook or do alterations or destroyed original packaging. No need to tell them that you repasted.
     
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    I am so sad because I really did fall in love with it at first but I cannot ignore these ongoing problems. They are driving me insane and actually taking away time from my uni coursework which is really, really not good.

    My return window ends this Tuesday - do you think I should do it? Do you think the P650SG is a better choice? It still fits my criteria of having no gaming branding on the chassis and I know Clevo is a reliable brand as I had no major issues with the P170SM, nothing like the frequency of this laptop at least.

    Can't believe I'm actually contemplating this. This is the first laptop I've ever thought about returning/replacing so soon. The Intel Wireless AC 7260 is what I am blaming. It is a horrendous abomination that should be thrown into the fires of Mount Doom.
     
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    I think you should do it. It's been a major pain for you. It gives you the chance to do your uni work, you still have your Clevo, and then gives you the opportunity to buy a better laptop in the near future.
     
  49. bigspin

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    Don't go with the P65X, wait a little and buy P75xZM with desktop CPU.
     
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    I think you have to decide if the issues are minor for you and you can either live with them, or think you can find a fix for at some point. Also if you think you caused the issues, or if they were inherent to the laptop itself.

    I understand the distraction these issues can cause. I tend to stop doing anything else until I get things how I want them on a new pc which means nothing else gets done around the house.

    So far (knock on wood) I have not seen anything that makes me think there is anything wrong with my laptop. I think I caused all my issues except the USB disconnecting one, which I throw into the "hope to fix later category for myself".

    If I do find any wireless issues, the wireless card can easily and cheaply be replaced so that would not bother me much. System problems that I cannot fix or cause major problems are my concerns that I am looking for.
     
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