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    Aorus X5 V7, X7 V7, DT X7 all estimated for June release in USA

    Discussion in 'Gigabyte and Aorus' started by laserbullet, May 18, 2017.

  1. Derek712

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    You can only calibrate color accuracy. It doesn't make more colors. If a screen only puts out 72% aRGB(typical IPS), then it only calibrates those colors. Even so, depending on the panel, the colors only calibrate so well. Notebookcheck actually does extensive testing on the screen calibrations for their reviews. Unfortunately, I'm not as thorough in mine, mainly because I use a Spyder4Pro. For what you're doing, it probably won't matter if you're that accurate, but there is a major difference in colors between the 15" 4k panel and the 17" one. You have to see it to know what I mean.

    If you're in the US and want to see something similar, see if Best Buy has a 4k Alienware 17 on display. The x7 will most likely have that exact screen.
     
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    Thanks for that! What I'm not sure to understand is the difference between aRGB accuracy and Pantone calibrated... I thought it was the same... is the Pantone, only the low quantity of colors accurate and adobeRGB the extension?

    I don't live in US but not sure I'll be able to find a place to compare both panels. So you think it's really worth considering get a 17" for that? I'm a bit scared it will be too cumbersome but if the difference is major I may consider...
     
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    When you're given a percentage of aRGB, sRGB and NTSC, that's the total color space a panel is capable of. Think of color space as being the total amount of colors available to view. The attached picture describes what I'm saying. So the higher percentage aRGB they say, the more colors in that triangle there are.

    Color accuracy is how close the colors on the panel are to the TRUE color. Think about the panel covering that triangle, except it was shifted upward a little. The panel would still cover the same amount of colors but they would all be off a little. In general, you need an Xrite i1 pro to measure that and no laptop manufacturer is going to tell you how accurate it is.

    Pantone certified just means that the screen was calibrated to a certain amount of Pantone colors and that icc profile was used. They can do that with any panel on the market, and so can you if you own a calibration tool. Afaik, there's no spec they list, so to me it's pretty much marketing BS. Razer did this too with their THX certified screen on the RBP. I saw that first hand and had to re-calibrate it because all the colors were over-saturated, so I don't know what the heck their specs for THX were...

    Hope this helps. You can always PM me if you want to know more. I don't want to go too far off topic on the Aorus thrrads. :)
     

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    Looks like xoticpc has them up to order
     
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    Thanks ! Will do ;)

    Back to the topic, does anyone knows a reliable seller offering the Aorus x5 x7 V7 in Germany by any chance ?

    Seems they try to get it in stock at the same time in every country ?
     
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    This is a great explanation of gamut and calibration. For the accuracy, you are just making sure that your computer thinks it is showing a color and the screen is creating that same color. You don't want it thinking it is making red, and the screen is really creating some off color, like crimson in reality (or something like that, just as an example). Basically matching the screen's output to what it really should be showing.

    Wow, that was quick. Those just went up on the site like 15 minutes ago. :) The site is getting updated to show they are a pre-order with an ETA of mid-july.
     
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    So no 4k x7 v7 yet?
     
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    Also, it doesn't say preorder anywhere that I can see. Is that for all models?
     
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    Just got those two QHD 2560x1440 models on the site. Didn't see specs for other versions that are coming available to us.
     
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    Should be getting updated to the site, I believe it is for all new Aorus models. Usually would be at least on the customization page at the top of it. I talked to the web manager and she said that is going to be fixed soon.
     
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    I might still get the QHD but I'll be waiting on someone to confirm the screen model. Hopefully they aren't using the one from the v6 and chose the one seen on the AW17 or better If you guys open one, will you be able to look that up with HWinfo and let us know?
     
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    When we get them, Yeah, I could probably check on that.

    I thought at one point we were told they were changing screens, but that was a while ago and I have no way to confirm if that happened until they show up.
     
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    Hi Pat,

    Here you can see the answer to that question by Aorus Rep in OcUK

    https://forums.overclockers.co.uk/threads/aorus-owners-lounge.18676044/page-54

    Hope this helps.
     
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    @Derek712

    Wrote you on MP

    But others may benefit from it...
     
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    Sure, I can answer it here.

    So here are the screen options that I’m predicting based off panel availability and the choices most manufacturers are trending towards.

    X5:

    The 3k screen is most likely the same as last year: Panasonic VVX16T028J00. IPS and will be around 56% aRGB and 86% sRGB.

    The 4k screen is also IPS and is probably around 98% sRGB and 74% aRGB

    X7

    Hopefully they improved the 3k to the new TN screen and it’ll be the B173QTN, which is 120Hz, 91% sRGB and 70% aRGB. If they used the same screen as last year, then it’s best to avoid it because if the interlacing issue(horizontal lines across the screen).

    The 4k screen is probably going to be AUO B173ZAN or equivalent. IPS, 100+% sRGB, 100% aRGB

    So if you’re interested in doing some serious photography or videography, you’ll want the 17” 4k screen. That’s not to say the 15” 4k screen is bad. Yes, it has 25% less colors than the 17” 4k screen, but it still has a LOT of colors. I know many photographers who got by with a ~100% sRGB ~74% aRGB screen for years and had little or no issue.

    You’ll for sure want to avoid the 3k screens though. The 17” one is TN and will have brightness shifts based on the viewing angle. Also the contrast ratio is a lot lower on the TN screens. The 15” 3k screen has far less color – I’ve seen those in person. It’s good enough for the casual user but professionals who need colors will want to avoid it.

    As for your other question, there’s nothing the Syder or any calibration tool can do besides calibrate the colors. It cannot add colors to the panel. So the 15” 4k screen will never look as good as the 17” 4k screen – it’s just not possible. Contrast ratio is also something that can’t be changed – it can only be measured.

    Hope this helps.
     
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    Hi Derek,

    Are you advising to avoid 17" even if the striping issue is not present in the v7 models? Currently deciding between waiting for a 3K model V7 or getting a 1080p V6 (17").
     
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    If you're doing color sensitive work, yes. Otherwise, for gaming, the 3k screen is great since it's 120hz. As long as the interlacing issue is fixed, it'll be a great screen for games. I'm torn between the two but leaning towards the 4k since I know I'll already like it.

    I've never seen the FHD screen so I have no opinion.
     
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    Got the v6 FHD. Cant say how accurate it is as i do not have the tools for that but its pretty good. It is calibrated from my reseller though. I do edit some photos in lightroom and they look pretty neat.

    Sent from my D6653 using Tapatalk
     
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    Don't you think 4K for 17" is too much? Will probably need a microscope to tell shortcuts apart....
     
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    Windows 10 scales pretty well these days - I never had any issues. The only programs that don't scale well are the old ones. There are working for those though. If you're using a lot of older programs, it's probably not worth it though, you're right.
     
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    IMO it's too much. The performance you sacrifice for 4k is not worth it on a 17". I have a 27" 1440p gaming monitor at home and I am not ready to do 4K on that thing, let alone a 17" laptop. My next gaming monitor will be a 32"+ 4K monitor, but I don't foresee that happening anytime soon.
     
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    Looks like the X5 v7 is in stock on Newegg
     
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    It will probably be time to replace this thread for an owner's lounge thread, soon. I'm excited to hear user experiences about these machines. I had intended to hold off another year in buying a new machine, but recently the optical drive has stopped working on my Y410p, and the right USB ports are only semi functional. I might end up buying now after all, just due to being nervous about the condition of my current machine.
     
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    Thanks for your answer Derek! Although this makes my decision difficult...
    I think I'll stick to the x5 v7 cf1 and get an external screen later on if needed...

    Actually since yesterday, my laptop is starting to overheat like crazy after it's on for about 10min... this was the final sign I needed to move on as well.
    It's driving me so crazy, I can't work anymore on this machine... I may throw it through the window soon.
    Count me in for that owner's lounge :cool:
     
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    Amazon also has it listed now, though it's showing as temporarily out of stock.
     
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    Do you have a link? Not showing up for me.
     
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    Regarding the 1080 max-q version of the x5 v7, there were various articles and videos that claimed a July release, and others that claimed December. If Kitguru is to be believed ( https://www.kitguru.net/lifestyle/m...hyrus-with-nvidia-max-q-technology-exclusive/) it will be the latter as they claim that ASUS has an exclusive on the 1080 max-q until december..... which is a bummer (and surprising since Acer predator triton is also suppose to have a 1080 and that was showcased ahead of the ASUS zephyrus.......)
     
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    Pretty good stuff. Can't wait for the x7 dt. That orange trackpad is the eyesore on the machine though. I really hope their camera is just taking in a lot of light, because it looks like it's glowing...
     
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    Yeah, if there's a reseller that offered an option to get rid of that eagle on the trackpad, that'd make more people look their way. Sadly, that's probably not feasible.
     
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    Strange... the eagle is shown in blue everywhere else on x5 v7... (it's surely less visible in blue)
     
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    The blue was bad enough, but the orange is crossing the line. I had the blue on the x7 v6 and it was perfectly fine as long as you weren't in a very bright room. The light reflecting off it amplifies the color somehow. At least I like the color blue so I tolerated it.

    From all the press images, it looks like the x5 v7 is still blue but the x5 MD, x7 v7 and x7 v7 DT all have orange. First thing I plan on doing is sourcing the x7 v6 trackpad somehow.
     
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    My thinking is to use something like dbrand since they make covers for trackpads for macbooks and dell laptops (might need to be cut to size a bit, but worth it).
     
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    I wouldn't have thought trackpad skins would be workable, but it looks like they're a thing. As long as they work well, they should probably be a suggestion with every checkout when someone is buying an Aorus machine. Just a before/after picture would be enough to immediately get people to throw down the little bit of extra cash without a second thought. Same with the logo on the back of the screen. Seriously, that Aorus logo is ugly enough in the first place, but in bright orange it's just hideous.
     
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    Hahahaha.... it didn't really affect my choice but I see your point.

    Personally I find the logo on the trackpad original but then I never saw it in real life... I may get fed up by it who knows... anyway I prefer that logo as having a big GIGABYTE written on the laptop :D (that I surely would have use some skin to hide it)
     
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    Anyone know when the x5 v7 4K will be available ?
     
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    Since the NDA on max-q has been lifted, kitguru has the full review now availabe ( https://www.kitguru.net/lifestyle/m...-120hz-ips-gtx-1080-nvidia-max-q-full-review/) in which they state at the top " There are two points we need to clarify in the video. The first is that Asus told us they have a temporary exclusive on the Max-Q version of GTX 1080 and Nvidia told us the opposite – which led to confusion. It is safe to say the Asus ROG GX501VI is the only GTX 1080 Max-Q laptop on sale today."
     
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    I'm going to give the Zephyrus a whirl since it's clear the Aorus I want is not coming anytime soon. Mine arrives Thursday.
     
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    Aorus rep responded on their forum with "They are wrong! Jokes aside, do expect the AORUS MD anytime now "quote from AORUS MKT"." so it looks like there will be a choice between the 1070 and 1080 for the v7.
     
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    hidevolution

    Pre-Orders

    Aorus X7 DT v7
    Aorus X7 v7

    Gentechpc

    Pre-Orders

    Aorus X7 DT v7
    Aorus X7 v7

    Excaliberpc

    Pre-Orders

    Aorus X7 DT v7
    Aorus X7 v7


    And Aorus X5 MD will be available mid-july at Newegg.

    Will according to Ms.Lady from Gigabyte
    The MSRP will be $2,899. Also will only be available at Newegg. July 28 is the release date.

    Sent from my LG-H918 using Tapatalk
     
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    Preorders are up on Newegg. Looks like 7/11 for most models.
     
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    x5 MD unboxing video. This time there's really a box. They're listening lol. Not much of a demo though...

     
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    Not just 'a' box, but 3! I'm guessing no need for 'demo' since it would be exactly the same as the v7 from the previous video, however, I wish they showed this 'improved cooling' over the v7... I would have thought that both MD and v7 had the same cooling (which was improved over the v6). I have a feeling the MD will outperform the Zephyrus, since that laptop was unable to hit the max boost allowed by max-q, and I'm guessing the MD won't have trouble with that. I think I'm most curious whether the max-q 1080 will allow for OCing since thermals shouldn't be an issue unless nvidia added some extra limits on thermals and noise. There's also a question about the 200W power adapter since the zephyrus is already able to use 198W under load, and that's with a 7700HQ instead of 7820HK.... though Aorus is known for drawing more from the adapter than it's rated for (I think up to 230W from 200W adapter). Hopefully notebookcheck does a review of the v7 and MD.
     
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    I can't find a seller with the 4K version of the X7 v7 for preorder in the US. That's disappointing as I was planning on purchasing it...
     
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    The 1070 version you mean? There might not be a version for that model.
     
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    Any reseller for the X5 MD?
     
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    Yes. I found a few resellers in the UK offering it for pre-order.
     
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    KitGuru mentioned in their review of the X3 v7 that their unit was using more power than the power supply was rated for. I've read many other instances of Aorus units doing this, and I'd love for someone with a higher level understanding than me explain to me whether this is okay. Because this is something that Aorus has consistently done, and owing to the lack of problems with it throughout their history, it makes me think my kneejerk reaction to them pushing their PSUs to the limit might not be justified. Otherwise, for anyone pushing their machine to the limit, I'd recommend buying a more capable PSU.
     
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