Aero 15 X w/ 1070 Max-Q

Can you provide some of those articles?


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You can read through the aero 15 owners thread for a start

 

Read through all of those already. Didn’t get a sense that the screen was garbage. Some had defects or screen bleed. But, wouldn’t use the word garbage to describe what some experienced.


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It was one person complaining about the screen quality. All of the reviews place it in the middle of pack. sRGB is close to 100% and Adobe RGB is around 60%. The Pantone calibration brings the deltas into a narrow range which make it usable, but not ideal, for content creation. The problem with the funky backlight issue is tied to a Windows setting when the screen is at or below 20% brightness, other than the 60hz refresh rate, there isn't anything to complain about. It's a good screen on a great laptop. Could it be better? Sure, a 120hz panel would be awesome or one that's closer to 100% Adobe RGB but for what this laptop does the equipment is more than sufficient at the price point.

 

Do you guys think the backlight bleeding issues are overblown?
I am thinking about getting this but i'll be moving from US after buying this so i'll have no chance of returning. I don't want to be dissapointed in a 2k device.
There really is a lack of choice in 1070 laptops. MSI Stealth looks OK but then you'll have to live with 120hz TN which is meh or a pen-tile 4K which is also very meh.

Maybe the Aero 15X is worth it even with the backlight and keyboard issues.

 

IMO the backlight bleed issue is less of an issue with the 15x compared to the 15 (they might have ironed out some kinks). But it's still a lottery. My Aero 15 has a great screen with minimal to no issues.

 

Same here.

 

The monitors are plugged into my external sound card with balanced RCA cables. The sound card is connected to the Aero via USB.

Yes, the ferrite core is still on the charger.

 

Just put in an order for mine through Gentech, they seemed to have the most promotions, though still fairly basic. Pretty much just opted for the free backpack and mouse, along with the Grizzly thermal. Looks like most retails are out of stock until estimated december 25th!

 

I am noticing an odd shading pattern at the bottom of the screen every time I turn it on. As soon as I change the brightness it disappears:

When screen has just turned on: https://imgur.com/sKycVp7


After I have changed the screen brightness: https://imgur.com/lc6HQi8



It only seems to happen when the screen is on low light, but as soon as I have turned the brightness up, I can turn it back down to low and the pattern is gone.

Any ideas what it could be?

 

That is normal amd caused by the automatic brightness setting. Look in the Aero 15 owners thread.

 

Has anyone heard of overclocking the GPU on the Aero 15x? Had some issues with my original order from Xotic, didn’t pass their QA due to some damage on the external case. They’re offering me a free GPU overclock, but not sure if that’s going to be a good thing on this laptop. Have IC Diamond paste being added to both the CPU and GPU.


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Is the USB cable from the sound card integrated?

 

HIDEvolution is getting new inventory every week. Apparently, there's a significant backorder on them, I'm seventh in line for mine. They are expecting more this week, hopefully enough that I get mine too!

 

I was wondering if all these re-sellers options to clean install would render those utilities extinct. I'm sorry you had to find out the hard way.

 

Bud, thats awful.

 

I'm interested in knowing how this transaction is turning out with XOTIC PC. They are one of the re-sellers I am considering purchasing the AERO from. Please update!! =)

 

Are you talking about GENTECH PC?

 

Whats the total on that bad boy?

 

How long ago did you place your order on that?

 

Placed it on October 19th right before their Website listed the laptop as a backorder. They informed me their first shipment wouldn’t be in stock until mid November or end of November. I believe it was around the 22nd when Xotic got their first shipment in and on the 24th, I found out that my laptop had some scuffs / dents on the case and failed their QA.

To their credit, they threw in IC Diamond and a rush order for free when I originally discovered it was a backorder. They have another shipment coming in later this week that has a unit assigned to me. Due to the second delay, Xotic added some additional items on top of the other items, such as a Xotic Mouse and the GPU overclock. (Granted I called in on cyber Monday and also paid for a 1TB WD for the slot 2 awhile back. I just asked if they would add their cyber Monday special to my order since all the issues).

So nothing negative on Xotic. **** happens, but they have had good customer care that eases the disappointment when a transaction doesn’t go as planned.


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Games wont be affected at all, no matter how fast the drive their load speed doesn't exceed 2 to 250 megs so you'd have a hard time finding a solid state drive that acted as a bottle neck.

 

I'm not sure exactly what you mean. The USB cable came with the sound card, but it's not soldered into it, I could use a different USB cable, but I don't see how that could be the problem when it worked perfectly fine on my MacBook Pro (when on mains or battery), and my Aero (when on battery).

 

The reason ist the grounded Power supply cable. Apple devices are not grounded. Google for ground loop laptop power supply and you will find solutions.

 

Really good review comparing the ASUS Zephyrus against the Aero 15x

http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/foru...attle-asus-zephyrus-vs-gigabyte-aero-15x.html

Main complaint on the Aero 15x is the trackpad. Anyone switch out the ELAN drivers to Windows Precision? How were the results if so? Is the trackpad that horrible?


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The trackpad works excellent with the Precision drivers, best of all it took about 5 minutes to install.

 

Not much more than the list price for an unmodified unit. The SSD kicked the price up the most. Looking at $2500 or so.

 

I'm just spitballing, the cable could have a short unless you've verified that it still works without issue with your Mac. Have you tried going to the 3.5 jack? If you're still getting interference from both the USB and 3.5 out then you could safely assume its onboard the laptop. You could also try and move the brick as far away as the cable allows. Out of curiosity, on the brick itself, is it UL listed?

 

Where and how do I get these drivers?

 

I did this on my other laptop and it improved it. Sounds like the 15x will have the same response. It was really easy. Here’s the link I used.

https://m.windowscentral.com/how-enable-precision-touchpad-drivers


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Dave 2D did a great video tut on it:

 

Is anyone getting Intel PROset errors every reboot?
https://imgur.com/a/YxKv5

 

Looking to pick up a 15x for myself, and have a question.

As someone who doesn't really care for flashiness but still requires practicality, does the keyboard backlighting still work if smart manager is uninstalled?

I just want to keep the keyboard at a solid white led backlighting if it is ever lit, so would it still require smart manager to do that?

 

No, colour is controlled through Gigabyte Fusion.

 

Ugh, HIDEvolution just informed me that the laptop is backordered until December 18th...

 

Yeah - just got confirm that Xotic is expecting the laptop “Early December”. Which probably means December 18. . .


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Is aanyone getting issues with double taping keys, I will typee a keey and it will double the letter. you can see in what i am typing that its doing it.

 

At first I said no but I get the double letter typing thing too sometimes.

 

I wasn't getting them at first but now its getting worse.

 

Quite often, see post #316.
As a mitigation I use a tool called "Keyboard Chattering Fix" suggested by @YuuY, see #336. It filters double keys to some extend, but not all off them.

I already was in contact with the official GB support and its German sub, see #339.

 

Yeah I'm also getting this issue. I got in touch with GB support and they asked me to reinstall Windows... I don't see how this is a software issue, it has happened since day 1 and it doesn't happen with an external keyboard.

 

Yea that’s not right, lol this is my third clean install of windows and they all did it.

 

Buying from gentechpc, what's the best option for thermal compounds? Should I take the liquid metal? They are all the same price
- IC Diamond
-Thermal Grizzly Conductonaut
- Coollaboratory Liquid Ultra

I can choose either any of the three for both the CPU/GPU or any liquid metal for CPU/IC Diamond for GPU

 

I’ve heard/read that liquid metal is best used on a desktop but, would be curious what others know. I went with IC Diamond - hopefully they apply it well.


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Kaby Lake processors, in particular, the 7700HQ is a hot chip. From what I've read anything to help cool that thing down goes a long way towards longevity and performance. I've opted for the LM solution on the CPU with a more traditional, nonconductive paste for the GPU. I've seen the full spectrum of results too; some folks get massive benefit from LM, like upwards of 10 to 15 degrees difference. Others report no change over stock. Because a laptop has a more constrained cooling system, I would imagine proper application is critical, with adequate time given to testing following that application to ensure it was correctly and optimally applied. I don't know if Xotic, HID, or Genetech take the time to do that but I would imagine it is in their interest to do so. Otherwise, they'd have customers pissed that they spent $35 to $80 on something that didn't do anything.

More on Xotic, which I find sort of troubling. My ASUS G75VX, which is being replaced with the Aero 15X, was ordered through Xotic and I had no complaints during that purchase. When I started searching for a vendor to buy the 15X through, I immediately went to Xotic first and noticed they are offering LM on both the CPU and GPU. I've heard nothing but trouble about using a conductive paste on the GPU and saw that Genetech and HID both offer the split solution of LM on the CPU and a nonconductive paste on the GPU. I asked if Xotic could do the same and their repeated reply was they don't recommend LM on a laptop, period. So, what I find odd is that they offer LM on the CPU and GPU, won't offer or individually price the split solution, and firmly recommend that you don't buy what they've offered.

Well, that did it for me. As much as we're willing and actually spending on a device like this, I'd like to only open it up when DDR4 comes down in price and a 2 TB M.2 SSD doesn't cost a kidney. The pasting and even trading down to two 8 GB SODIMMS for the dual channel benefit should be open for discussion, which Xotic didn't want to entertain. HID has my business now.

 

I am curious how LM on one die is good but another is bad? I've had LM on my XPS GPU and CPU for months without any issue. I've had it on my 1080TI, 1080 before that, 1060, 980TI, etc. I would love to see some information on how putting it on a GPU is any different than a CPU.

 

When you pull the heat sink off the GPU v. the CPU you'll notice that the GPU is surrounded by all sorts of transistors (in a laptop). The CPU is basically by itself. Now, the other GPUs you're mentioning are desktop components, which isn't the same thing at all. Nowhere have I found that LM is a bad choice for a desktop rig. I've read that preparing the area surrounding the GPU die requires patience and, if not managed correctly, can result in situations where even a slight overapplication of LM ends with the GPU shorting out.

 

The 1050 in my laptop is exactly that, a laptop GPU (the XPS that's been repasted with LM for months). So your issue is not the LM itself but the application in specific instances. You should just mention that in packages with transistors or traces nearby. My desktop CPUs have transistors nearby so your over simplification doesn't apply to CPUs in general either. A careful application and using something like Nitrocellulose based nail polish or even electrical tape in most instances works wonders (just be sure your heatsink still makes good contact).

 

Since LM is conductive there is always a risk, especially on a laptop that is moved around a lot more than a desktop and some heatsinks on laptops don't offer much pressure and/or don't have a perfect fit. This risk is mitigated when done properly and the tape around the die offers some insurance against spillage.
That being said, LM on the CPU shows the greatest benefit (temp reduction) while on the GPU sometimes the temp reduction is not that great over a non conductive paste, so the benefits vs risk can be questionable. Personally, if I would use LM on the CPU might as well use it on the GPU, even if it only reduces temps a few degrees.

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Agreed, I did oversimplify and yes, the issue isn't with LM but its application; though an argument exists regarding the quality of the heatsink, the laptop itself and its use (how mobile will it be) and ultimately is the net benefit worth the possible risk (a few degrees v. a fried GPU).