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    Dell Inspirion 7577

    Discussion in 'Dell' started by Sugil1844, Aug 30, 2017.

  1. spektykles

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    Yes, 7300HQ unit would support all KBL BGA1440 and maybe CFL (spotted some CFL with BGA1440, same as our) too (if our chipset and BIOS microcode support CFL).
    Nothing serious, just took it to some guy i know who can handle the soldered cpu, 30mins and done. But remember to insulate stuffs around the CPU from heat, especially VRM and stuff with modeling clay and alu foils on top of it. I made a special cpu shaped nozzle for the heat gun to keep it from affecting surrounding area. Hope that help.
     
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    Phone Dell, explain it's been a month, it's not acceptable and you want a new one or a refund as it is obvious they can't fix it.

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    They have 45 days by the contract to fix it apparently, if that doesn't happen I guess I'm calling dell.

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  4. Maleko48

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    Mine came with RAID setting on from the factory but you can changenitmto AHCI without having to reinstall or anything.
     
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    Perfect. Just what I needed to know.

    I'm looking at them online. I have a couple of pages open with the Inspiron 15 7577. AFAIK, they are configured identically. One is $10 less than the other. The cheaper one shows white letters on black keys. The higher one shows red letters on black keys... terrible contrast. I definitely want white letters.

    But I fear they either aren't the same machine or one page is incorrect.

    White letters:
    http://www.dell.com/en-us/work/shop...g/spd/inspiron-15-7577-laptop/cai157w10p2c615
    [​IMG]

    Red letters:
    http://www.dell.com/en-us/shop/cty/...kIjo1NzIsIk9wdHMiOlt7IklkIjoiRkcwMDA1In1dfV19
    [​IMG]

    Can anyone advise the difference?
     
  6. Maleko48

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    Some of the Euro/foreign variants come with white keyboards, Linux, and some even GTX1050's in the new chassis I believe I read somewhere a while ago. Also someone recently posted a link confirming the 7567 keyboard is a direct swap into the 7577 with no problems.

    If you want to go through Dell they will sell you an "official" 7577 white keyboard probably.

    I have the red keys myself. I may try white keys eventually but for now it's not really an issue.

    I do wish I could keep the keyboard LEDs from sleeping so quickly but I just retrained myself to bump my CTRL key to activate the keyboard lights first (need this for when I'm in a dark room). Double bonus because I turn the Windows mouse setting on that pings the mouse pointer on the screen to help you find it when you press CTRL.
     
  7. vibhawa

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    Touchpad also triggers those lights.

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  8. Maleko48

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    It probably wouldn't be too hard to just write an AHK script to keep it awake when in battery.
     
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    Thanks a lot guys. My old eyes definitely prefer the white/black contrast. I'm talking to Dell as we type.

    I simply haven't been able to find another laptop that specs out so well for the price:
    i7-7700HQ
    16GB DDR4 ram (easily expandable)
    256GB NVMe/PCIe 4x SSD
    1 TB spinner
    GTX 1060/6GB
    Win 10/pro.
    I hear the 15 inch IPS panel is not the greatest, but I think it will do well for me.

    I've had pretty good luck with Dells back when I worked for the IT dept in a school environment. They seemed pretty simple to upgrade the BIOS and configure, etc. But that's been a while back now and my skills are .... rusty. ;)

    And this is to replace an ancient Asus Z71A I've nursed along for too many years. Win 10/pro x86 runs a bit slow... as you can imagine. Lol.
     
  10. speedlever

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    What do you guys do about the bloat? Wipe and reinstall? Since I'm sure it won't come with the OS media, can I get the OS installation files from Dell?
     
  11. vibhawa

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    You can download latest windows iso from Microsoft website.

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  12. speedlever

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    Ah. OK. I'll just have to remember to grab my key before I wipe it then. Or I guess I could get it from Dell?
     
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    Well that sucks m8

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  14. vibhawa

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    Windows will automatically detect it however you should always backup. There are plenty of tools for that. Wait for some other members to confirm this auto detect thing.

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    Win10 activates based on your hardware signature so you don't need it at re-installation of Win10. There are tools to grab the number if you want to write it down, but I think it may also be hardcoded in your individual machine's BIOS signature. There are probably even some Windows commands too...idk if it can be viewed from System Information or not.
     
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    OK. It's been a while since I had to deal with individual keys, so I'm a little rusty on the details.
     
  17. speedlever

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    Lol. Dell CSR is telling me I can order the 7577 from the business side and get white on black keys. If I order from the consumer side, I get red on black.

    Dell chat tells me the KB is red on black regardless and that laptops from the business side have backlit KBs.

    How hard can this be?
     
  18. Aivxtla

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    The key is stored in the bios, you shouldn't lose it on a fresh install. Only if you take a drive with preinstalled Windows from another computer or actively clear the key will it be replaced or removed.

    I always do a fresh install on any laptop and never install branded apps like Dell/Asus etc stuff.
    IGP/WiFi/Bluetooth drivers I get directly from Intel and the 1060 driver directly from nVidia. Rest of the drivers you can get from the Dell site, you can get the Realtek Audio drivers from Realtek if you want a newer version.
    Make sure to never install the SmartByte garbage it causes major issues like increased DPC latency and lag ironically.
    Another thing is make sure to install in AHCI mode (bios setting) and don't install the Intel RST storage driver as it has in my experience with various laptops caused DPC latency issues. The built in msahci (AHCI) / nvstore (nVME) drivers are more stable in my experience.

    Reason why system builders use older drivers than the actual component manufacturers is to ensure no new problems and compatibility issues as that would lead to more support calls, so they take a while to update the drivers on their site.

    Also you can do self upgrades as Dell doesn't void warranty for RAM/Drives/WiFi card changes.
    I actually had a refurb $700 7567 with an I7/1TB HDD/GTX1050Ti/8GB RAM that had uneven core temps under load, after sending it in a second time I asked for a 7577 as a replacement and they generously gave me a $1,400 unit with an I7, 4K display, 512 GB nVME SSD, 1TB HDD, GTX 1060 and 16GB RAM so their support is also excellent.
     
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  19. Von Sohn

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    Hey guys, any advice on how to calibrate the screen to look a bit livelier? As many have said before, colors look washed out. I have made colors a bit better adjusting the Intel control panel colors settings, but it's disheartening to notice that the screen still looks crappy when it comes to color reproduction.

    So, any tip besides "replace the panel"?

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  20. Aivxtla

    Aivxtla Notebook Evangelist

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    NotebookCheck did reviews of various versions of the 7577, if you scroll through, they have their calibration file next to the LCD assessment image.
     
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    Thanks, I'll research a bit on how to apply those files.

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    Is your screen FHD or UHD and do you know if it's the LG model or different?

    Here are some calibrations for the 7577 : https://mega.nz/#F!JehA2DxR!oUyqCL4TyY-JzwMiHjZxJg
     
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  23. Von Sohn

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    Hey there, thanks for the link.

    My 1080p panel model is LGD053F. I hope there's something to be done about it!

    Edit: I applied the 4XK13_156WF6_02 color profile, the one provided by NotebookCheck. It's definitely better now. Not a night and day situation, but quite better.
     
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  24. scene_cachet

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    Did you try #1 too? I think the Acer one is a lot more vibrant but not correctly calibrated for whites, the 4XK13-156WF6 #1 profiles are the best calibration your screen can get without replacement.
     
  25. Von Sohn

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    I perceived the #1 profile as a bit cold, but after switching from one profile to another, the Acer one included, I think you're right, #1 is the most vibrant of the bunch. The reds are still very lacking in terms of punch, but that'll have to do.
     
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    Do you have any other settings on in the Intel Graphics Control panel under color settings?
     
  27. Von Sohn

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    Nope, just a bunch of sliders.

    Adjusting the values as seen in the image I uploaded, colors do get livelier, but accuracy goes out of the window. Maybe I'll just leave it at default settings, and then I'll try to get used to the panel.
     

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    I have my contrast on 43 and turned saturation down to 0... I found you lose detail in the red with Saturation too high.
     
  29. Von Sohn

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    I think it's the other way around, with saturation on 0 you end up in greyscale :p

    When you turn up saturation, I noticed you lose definition, everything looks fuzzier. There's so much you can do with a lackluster panel, sadly.
     
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    Oh weird, I don't go into greyscale till well into the minuses.

    Either way this is a major improvement for me, when I first got it everything had a yellow tint and manually playing around with things I would never get true whites. Luckily this profile is a huge improvement.

    I will look at other screens in the future, but this will do till then
     
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    I was going through this thread and I just cant find a good answer:

    What would be the best IPS panel as replacement? Or at least top3? (best means best colour accuracy)

    Also, is it really the case that after replacement you cannot control the brightness, or is it only with 4k panels?

    Id appreciate feedback,
     
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    I asked the same question on page 95... Apparently it's the Official Samsung panel and only the 120hz screens don't work for brightness.
     
  33. nixliu

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    can we upgrade memory by ourself?
     
  34. Aivxtla

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    Yes, and they don’t void warranty for that. Infact you can change the WiFi card and storage as well without impacting warranty, you don’t even need to have the original drive/WiFi card/memory if you were to send it in for repair.
     
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    Pretty stoked as I just picked up one of these off the Walmart deal, should be here Wednesday. Only thing I wish it had was a 7200rpm drive.

    Replacing an MSI i7-4700 with a 960m.

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  36. vibhawa

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    Someone please crosscheck this:
    If i enter my service tag on dell's website, it eetects for a 7559 instead of 7577. Any issue due to that?

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    That's weird... Are you using the same support page from the country you bought the 7577 from?
     
  38. speedlever

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    You should be able to easily replace the SATA HDD with either a 7200 rpm HDD or a SATA SSD, depending on how deep your pockets are! That WM deal is very nice.
     
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    Are you using the support page in the country you purchased the laptop from? Or maybe you have the 7559 instead of the 7577... 7559 has 6th gen processor and 960M graphics card.
     
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    Mine is 7577 i think the problem is with support page.

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    I had 7567 with broken support page, it showed Optiplex 3040 model. It took months for Dell agents but eventually they fixed it.
     
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    Well this is "great".
    I had a bit of a fiesty call with the service center and they finally told me that they ordered the motherboard the first week when I gave them the laptop but that "they aren't sending it" to them.
    I feel like a complete retard because these people apparenlty don't have a tracking ID for the replacement mobo they ordered and they just told me to wait for up to 45 days (from when I gave them the laptop).
    Now I understand they can't speed up shopping magically but I'm calling BS on no tracking ID for the motherboard shipment.
    Does anyone have experience with their products not being repaired in the timespan a repair service has to do a warranty repair?
    I'm thinking of just writing Dell an email now, since I'm imagining this requires a chain of emails to get trough and since I'm in Europe it will probably take weeks to get shipped if I am to get a new laptop since they probably won't be able to repair this one -_-

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    What steps you took to get it rectified?

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    For me it shows also another laptop. But you can search by for it manually.
     
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    Contacted Dell technical support regarding my problem. I suggest you to contact via twitter or Facebook.
     
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    When I get my 7577 in another week or so, the first thing I plan to do is check the BIOS for updates (have to setup my wifi for that). Once the BIOS is updated, I plan to do a clean install of Win 10/pro as per this guide:
    http://tripsintech.com/perform-clean-install-of-windows-10-on-dell-inspiron-gaming-7000-7577/

    Then install the Dell stuff I'll need afterwards and try to remember to leave off the suggested files someone suggested earlier.

    I used to do this stuff all the time, but it's been years since I've had to do it, so my skills are a bit rusty.

    Do chipset drivers neet to be updated from Intel now? Or is all that on the Dell website once I get my service tag number?

    Is there any particular order to the driver installation I need to follow? I want to get a good clean install of Win 10/pro before I start loading up my programs and data.

    Edit: However, reading a post on the site linked below has me rethinking my plan. This may not be as simple as I thought and have experienced in the past (prior to the advent of m.2 drives)

    https://www.dell.com/community/Gene...Storage-Drivers-M-2-Lanes/td-p/5072571/page/2
    **********************************************
    ‎10-06-2017 10:43 AM

    RE: Dell M.2 FAQ regarding AHCI vs RAID ON, Storage Drivers, M.2 Lanes, Performance and more
    Hey Justin...running into an issue here. We bought a couple of XPS 8920's with Win 10 Pro and NVMe Hynix PC300 drive that came with it (it also came with a 2TB SATA drive but I unplugged it) , the OS had a bunch of software on it (McAfee, other stuff) so I reinstalled Win10 from scratch, now to do this I had to change it from RAID to AHCI to get the Win 10 install to recognize the NVMe drive and it seemed to work fine (I never changed it back to RAID)

    Today I updated the BIOS to 1.0.9 and now Windows won't load, I tried AHCI and RAID settings, neither work...UEFI and Secure boot are ON

    It get's past the Dell logo and gets to a "Media Present State, Media found" but then just errors out saying No disk found or something...

    What should I do?

    Note the BIOS (even the updated one) looks super old with no mouse control



    I tried restoring BIOS to the old version using the instructions below but Alt+F and Alt+B doesn't do anything

    http://www.dell.com/support/article...stem-setup--defaults-on-a-dell-system?lang=en

    UPDATE: I just reinstalled the OS (Still on AHCI), and then started to updated the Intel chipset and rebooted, that went fine and I got into Windows....I then tried to update the SSD driver and Intel Storage Adapter (through Dell's website) and it rebooted and now I am stuck again



    UPDATE2: I think I figured out the issue....if you are reinstalling Win10 you HAVE to leave the settings to UEFI and RAID ON (I don't think it matters if SecureBoot is on or not), AHCI/Legacy will not work.

    When you get to the Win10 install screen it won't find the NVMe disk but you can load the NVMe drivers through the link Justin mentioned above. Once that is done it will finish the Win10 installation and you can safely update all the drivers (including BIOS to 1.0.9) and everything should work properly!
    ********************************************

    Any thoughts about the Win 10 clean install after reading that post?
     
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    Lo and behold!!! Dell 7577, now with Overclock capability!!!
    I fried the last one with modded 7920HQ while doing this, so be careful (tech guys at Dell scratching their head on how my arrived with 7920HQ tho....)
    Received a replacement, same specs as my old one. Cant keep the 7920HQ from the fried one, too bad, lost 60$...
    I learned how to modify the BIOS to allow XTU to change more settings, and its working!!! (Some unlocked but not working, like CPU multipliers....yeah, but hey now I can confirm that it should working fine with unlocked CPU and can overclock it)
    Managed to get my crappy OEM Micron DDR4 to 2800 @ CL17, pretty good....3000 MHz @CL17 failed, maybe I need to squeeze the timing more on 2800...
    Also iGPU after lifted the clock to 1200MHz and OC RAM, now run PUBG smooth at low setting, yeah its low and crap but before that, lol a slideshow...
    Proof
     
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    Reading through this thread, I'm now wondering if I've made a mistake ordering my 7577 system with the 256GB NVMe drive.

    https://www.dell.com/community/Gene...Storage-Drivers-M-2-Lanes/td-p/5072571/page/5

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    ‎01-19-2018 09:40 AM
    RE: Dell M.2 FAQ regarding AHCI vs RAID ON, Storage Drivers, M.2 Lanes, Performance and more


    @community,

    Regarding the: 256GB Nvme Toshiba KXG50ZNV256G

    Dell's engineering team has advised me that the drive's performance behavior is 'working as designed'. The behavior is due to a drive feature called the "SLC buffer". More on that in this wiki. In the case of Toshiba XG5 256GB, the SLC buffer size is maximized at 1/3 the full capacity of the SSD.

    Justin C
     
  49. Maleko48

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    Fwiw I run the Samsung SSD drivers on my Win7 install. BIOS mode set to AHCI.
     
  50. Vasudev

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    Yeah Toshiba XG5 should be much better than XG3. It is somewhat worse than 960 EVO though but similar to PM961. You could order with a HDD only and buy your drive and set everything up. It just takes 10 mins to setup everything on 960 EVO/PRO.
     
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