Dell Inspirion 7577

I am not so sure. I dont know if the patch for the meltdown could be attributed to the freezing/stuttering issue. From what I could gather, it could be the meltdown issue. It could be the Optimus causing the issue. I dont know. What I can gather is that performance and bad freezing/stuttering happened just right after I applied the meltdown patch. So take that with a grain of salt

 

What about switching out the SSD? I got mine with 128 gb of SSD and I find that way too limiting. I went digging around and realized I had a m.2 PCIE 250 gb SSD sitting around with nothing on it(It was meant to be the boot drive for a desktop I was building, but thats a whole different story). Would the warranty be voided if I switched them out, loaded a new windows 10 on the 250 gb SSD(I get a free windows from my university). That way, I get a fresh version of Windows 10 on a bigger SSD and I keep the original SSD and dont touch it.
TLDR: Have bigger SSD, doesnt have anything on it. Could install new copy of windows 10 and than keep the original SSD(The one that came in it) in case the warranty needs it full?

 

Every Gaming Laptop throttles on battery. Otherwise the runtime would be less than 30 min.


@dragon I think you should read some tutorials first. No need for a new key, except you want to use a "Pro" version of Windows. The "Home" version will auto activate. You can use the old SSD as an external drive with a casing. Swapping the ssd should't void the warranty.

 

theoretically. The windows key on the Dell provided SSD could work on the new SSD? I dont want to clone since Im not losing any data anyway. So download the windows 10 and than activate the key on there?

 

Actually: I think I'll just install the new windows 10. I get a free copy from my university which is windows 10 education. The education version is in every way superior to the home edition. That way, if I have to send this thing back. I can just swap the SSD out without ever touching the OEM SSD.

 

The key is not on the ssd. It is stored in the bios chip. But yes, the educatjon version is nice, but look for a tutorial what to install first on a Dell.

 

Uhhhh. Would installing Windows 10 Education on the 7577 interfere with the Dell provided key?

 

No.

 

Oh okay cool Ill still keep the OEM(Dell) provided SSD in case Ill have to swap it around if I ever need to RMA

 

Are you guys turning off all the unnecessary Windows 10 bs using O&O ShutUp10 to help slim down Windows services running in background? Also are you guys disabling all of the built in screen recording and gaming streaming junk from Windows 10 and Nvidia? You might try to start there aside from experimenting with older drivers.

 

I got mine 7577 yesterday and tomorrow courier will take it Did anyone heard they are doing them without backlit keyboard :O agent havent mentioned this one fact and I thought its a standard in a gamin laptop...u can guess my surprise when i was trying to turn on backlit and nothing hahahaha finally I called dell and they told me i bought system without backlit keyboard...oh myy ^^
but had time to test it and it was great: screen perfect only barelly visible bleeding under the camera and colours are not that bad if you do not compare it to OLED . Samsung SSD...withiut load its silet and with med load its quite silent and under full load think there is less db/noise than in my m17x R4 overally it was a pleasant experience but Dell do not want to exchange it to one with backlit(got it with 20% off special discount) bugger

 

okay thanks for the information

so how to disable trackpad via FN+keyboard ? i dont see any trackpad icon on the keyboard LOL

 

Wow. Congratz. Can you share your screen in dark like when you are checking the bleeding? Just so that we all know how IPS panel looked when we get the "jackpot"

 

without reading through 87 pages of fun, what's the general consensus on the i5 vs the i7 on this laptop. I have an alienware 17 with an HK processor for my heavy lifting but ended up getting one of these for when I travel. I went with the i5 as its only going to be gaming and web stuff. I usually like to go i7 for the hyperthreading but figured that most games I play can't take advantage of that anyway so I would be fine with the i5 quad.

 

Get the i5 than. If you are doing something that requires hyperthreading or extra rams, than i7 is a good one. But thats really more for people that need it for work too like College students. i5 is sufficient for web stuff and gaming. Itll be the GTX 1060 doing the heavy lifting. i5 vs i7 is negligent in terms of differences when it boils down to GPU for most games
Just make sure you get the base model with 256 gbs of SSD. Plug in a 7mm 5400rpm(Ik the RPM sucks, but thats the only thing within the HDD thatll fit) HDD and if you need more ram, buy some SODIMM.
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i have i5 7300HQ + 1060MQ + 12GB DDR4 LOL

and i m having 100% CPU while running PUBG in medium-high setting. -_-

 

My fans are pretty loud during gaming but the temps are very low, like 62 C. Is there a way to slow down the fans a bit?

 

No. Not at the moment. Please complain in the Dell support forums.

 

Ok. Other than the PUBG(Its known to be a insane hog) which has lackluster optimization, 99% of the other games are fine. Really, GPU is what determines the chief of it unless you are playing a game that involves CPU like any Paradox Games.

Sorry, not AFAIK, than again Im deaf so I dont really hear those fans

 

I am kind of sad that this i5-7th gen gtx1060maxq laptop scores about the same as my gtx980m laptop (i7-3rd gen) in firestrike. Debating whether to return this one. Anyone have a feel for gaming performance and VR performance with this laptop?

 

What makes you sad about a mid range card performing near that of the last generation's top end? If you need faster look at a higher end card.

 

I think you are getting the best deal in this price segment(nvidia+intel). If you are not satisfied then go for alienware with upto gtx1080 or wait for ryzen builds(same performance at cheaper price).

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Since my gtx980m isn't VR ready and the gtx1060 is I was hoping for a cheap VR ready laptop. Not sure this one is going to have a noticeable difference from my current laptop though. I guess I will run a few VR games to see.

 

Has anyone plugged in a Windows Mixed Reality headset to this laptop yet? I am trying my Samsung Odyssey and the portal keeps telling me to plug in my headset even though its already plugged into the hdmi port.

 

Use the DP Port. HDMI is routed through the Intel graphic, which is causing errors.

 

I don't see a Display Port? I only see HDMI port.

 

Okay, I had it enough with the 7577. Now the 2nd model Im on it from Costco and some update bricked the settings and lock me outside. At this point, Im trying to figure out how to wipe the OS without using the settings, but thats a bit tad difficult.

 

Hello, I have been using this laptop for 1 week now. I bought an i5, 8GB RAM, 256 GB SSD model for $790. After receiving the package I installed another 8GB RAM + 1 TB HDD. The overall experience felt great. But still, there are still lots of things that are bugging me.

I'm surprised at how well the laptop handled heat. I played a lot of AAA games such as the Witcher 3, GTA V, Nier:Automata and Doom, all at 60 fps high settings constant. The temperature never surpassed 70C, quite odd.

Also, I created a custom plan in power settings which included 25% maximum processor state. When at school I could use it for 6.5 hours straight on battery alone.

Some good selling points of this laptop:
- The thermal management is incredibly good.
- The laptop with 1060 Max-Q handles triple A title with ease. One thing to note that I did the FFXV benchmark and received a score of 3776 standard (1080P High Quality), which I believed that this laptop could handle the game for at least 60 fps at medium settings.
http://benchmark.finalfantasyxv.com/na/
- The fingerprint reader + A thunderbolt 3 support are neat.

But here are some problems:
1. I am a 3rd year college student. So with heavy books and all, the portability of the laptop is not too good. But I still need the power for gaming experience.
2. The fan noise is pretty loud. I used an app called decibel X and recorded an average of 49 db when playing the Witcher 3.
3. The FHD IPS screen is not too great. But this could also because I did not do any tweaks to the screen.

For each of the problems specifically:
1. I noticed that there are an i7 4k screen, 16 GB RAM, 128 GB SSD + 1 TB HDD for $999 at microcenter:
http://www.microcenter.com/product/502352/Inspiron_15_7577_156_Gaming_Laptop_Computer_-_Black
http://www.microcenter.com/product/487758/Inspiron_15_7577_156_Gaming_Laptop_Computer_-_Black

Should I return the laptop to get the i7 4k screen or just the i7 and sold the RAM + HDD? Besides from studying and playing games, I do edit videos and plan on using it for IT stuffs.

Also there are 2 other laptops that have the portability I want: the Dell XPS 15 9560 and MSI GE43 VR Phantom Pro. Maybe I would address this in a specific topic, but any advice would be nice.

2. For anyone that feels disturbed with the fan noise when playing game. I did some research and I found the Fan Control Look-up Table in HWinfo64 (HWinfo64 -> Sensors -> Continue -> hit the icon Fan -> Custom Auto).
https://www.hwinfo.com/download.php

My temperature when i'm typing right now is 45C - fan speed at 2500 RPM (10 chrome tabs is open). The laptop is really quiet, cannot hear any fan running at all. But in the Look-up Table I saw that if the laptop hit 60C, the fan would increase right up to 4900 RPM (maximum speed). This is true since I did some temp measuring while playing games and at 60C the fan is really loud.

A little nervous to try and change the fan speed. I plan on adjusting 2500 RPM in 60C, bump it up a little bit at 70C and maximum at 80C.

Should I disable EC control first, then change the fan speed according to the temp and that's it?

3. I saw that you guys recommend page 47-51 for screen changing. But I also heard someone said that a 4k screen playing at medium settings look better than a 1080p screen playing at high settings. Is this true? Is the 4k screen really suitable for this kind of laptop? Or just stick with the FHD screen and do some tweaks would be fine?

I have tried hard to write as clear as possible. A little bit too much questions since I just purchased it 7 days ago and could still return the laptop. I asked the same questions to Dell support but still of no use.

Any detailed advice would be of great help to me and those in need. Thanks in advance!

P/s: Fan control picture:

 

Well, I can see now u having a perfectly working 7577 with nice NVME ssd. Hit the jackpot. Nice
U can return this back and get the i7 version. I have that same i7 except its 8GB RAM and 128GB Sandisk X400 (well, bad luck, no NVME for me). Display and CPU cant be upgrade even if u want so I suggest u max it out and then gradually upgrade the rest of system in the future when u get enough $. Simple.
For the fan speed, thats quite cold. Mine is 47C at 2900rpm. Just let it go full auto, Im not advise to set it manually because this machine doesnt have the greatest temp kill-switch (based on my experiment with BIOS playing)
The screen, just apply the color profile and u will be good. For gaming, only. Not for serious color accuracy.

 

FYI I found this little deal here
https://www.alibaba.com/product-det...ml?spm=a2700.7724838.2017115.1.5cbff55fRjzt2p
An 7920HQ for like 80$. Holy ****. Cheaper than 8GB stick of RAM, seriously....Im sure to get that and call my local BGA reballer. Will update the progress....

 

The Thunderbolt Port offers Displayport, the adapter to HDMI is cheap.

 

i have the same model with you, but i upgrade the ram to 12gb. 4+8.

i m getting temperature around 70-80 after 1.5 hours PUBG this is the HWmonitor screenshoot.

is this normal for i5-7300hq + 1060MQ ?

 

I am in the same boat with you. Downloaded HWinfo but i am a bit scared to tweak the fan speeds. I dont know about the 4k but i am considering to buy a better fhd display in the future. The colors of the current display wont improve much no matter how you tweak it.

 

So while I don't have the 4k screen version of this laptop, I do have experience with the same setup you have and experience with other UHD screens in laptops and desktops. 4k screens look great, no doubt about that. They are sharp and often times the colors pop due to better color coverage. I have heard great things about the 4k panel in the 7577 but would still shy away from that display for a few reasons.
1. The cpu/gpu power to push games at 4k is not quite there in the setup here. Sure the i7 is great and can crank out 4k but the 1060 MQ will have problems. Lower end games and mobas should be ok, but if ultra 1080p (native) will look better than ultra 1080p scaled down from 4k (aka non-native). This means you can't even turn the settings down to get better graphics settings. Now lowering to low or med graphics to play at native 4k at 60fps, nah. It won't look better than ultra. It will look sharper, sure, but the little elements and effects are gone. To me, those little things make the difference.
2. The hit on battery life will be insane. As a student, you seem to bring it to school and don't want to bring the charger. 4k screens usually lower the battery life by about 20%. Tag on the i7 and other things, if you get 6 hours now, you may only get around 4 hours or so. Can you live with that? I rather have 2 hours more unteathered. I will say that the base screen is pretty bad and to me looks very washed out, so the 4k screen is tempting, but maybe just upgrade to a better panel? 1080p screens are pretty cheap and maybe someone offers a better one out there. I haven't looked but who knows.
3. Extra cost. I think that the i7 is probably only worth it if you plan to use it. I don't know what your workload is like, but the i5 seems very well suited for the 1060 MQ and probably doesn't bottle neck it much if at all. $300 more for things you can't upgrade later may be worth it, but the i5 should last for 3 to 4 years and still be plenty fast.

All in all, if you have a good one and it suits your needs, I think you are good with it. Then again, if you will always think... "I should have just upgraded" and suffer from extreme buyers remorse, then get what makes you happy. Think of it this way, if you save money now, you can go with something more powerful when that comes out in a few years. Best of Luck!

 

That's completely normal. The thermal management in this laptop is really good.
You might consider undervolt your laptop to get the temperature down a little more. I used XTU and lower the volatage by -0.100V.


I saw a decrease of ~3 degree celsius, not too much but still pretty good.

I haven't done enough research for screen tweak and fan control, might as well do it this weekend.
However, I think changing the screen is a good idea and a must for better experience. One of the reason is that I managed to overclock my screen from 60HZ to 65HZ (artifacts occured when I set 66HZ).

Your detailed advice is much appreciated. It is hard to decide cause my experience with this laptop was good. I want to utilize the 30-day return to finally decide to stick with this laptop, return and buy the i7 + 4k screen or buy another laptop that has more portability and battery life.

Yes the 4k screen for me is optional, but the i7 is really tempting. My main reason is that a lot of software I use such as Premiere Pro and Photoshop are CPU intensive. Right now I am leaning towards return the laptop and buy an i7, but I need to test more on the battery life and stuffs.

 

Overclocking Dell 7577 internal monitor:

Just want to share my experience right here. Because this is one good reason to change the screen of the laptop. The screen of my Dell 7577 is LGD053F. You can find the screen ID at Device Manager -> Monitors -> Generic PnP Monitor -> Right click & Click Properties -> Details tab -> Hardware IDs.

I followed the instructions in the link below.
http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...tor-intel-intel-optimus.802167/#post-10482324

The driver I used was the Intel Graphics 630 Graphic Driver, my version is 22.20.16.4836.
http://www.dell.com/support/home/us/en/19/product-support/servicetag/jgxj3m2/drivers

I managed to get the screen up to 65 HZ.


But other FHD IPS screen in the thread resulted in much higher HZ (average about 75-100HZ) so I believed that the LGD didn't have enough power to overclock to higher refresh rate. Another screen that could overclock to 100HZ would be neat.

I have been using the laptop for 2 days now and everything looks and works fine. Not much difference, but I think it worths a try. I would love to know if you guys have other screen or achieve better results.

 

Few, in the thread, swapped their panels from that of 7559 or other replacements.

Stock was not overclocked AFAIK.

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Anyone else having problems with their keyboard on their 7577? My L key barely registers a hit unless I hit it really hard. It provides a little feedback when clicking which makes me think it registered but doesn't always. I convinced Dell Support to replace it but I am worried that I am going to send it back and 10 days later get back the fixed one with the same issue. Common problem?

 

Here's a strange one, I asked over on Reddit but no one really had an answer:

My display will become unresponsive at random. When this happens, a simple tap of the power button puts the machine to sleep, tap the button again and the machine wakes up and everything works again.

While the machine appears frozen, if I press the Windows key or say Windows +M to minimize everything, or just click the mouse on the screen, then put the machine to sleep and wake it again, the start menu will be open or the Windows will all be minimized, text will be highlighted, etc. It's as if there is just a static image over on the screen and it's not being updated, but the machine itself is still functioning in the background.

What i've tried: I did a fresh installation of Windows 10 Home, I tried with the drivers from Windows Update, I tried the drivers from Dell's website, and I grabbed the latest GeForce driver from NVIDIA'a website, same issue. I have also updated to the most recent BIOS.

The only solution I have found that seems to work is forcing everything to use the GTX 1060, while not ideal, at least the machine is usable.

Another odd thing is that now that the machine isn't hanging on me and being weird, I notice some odd frame drops and hiccups when minimizing Chrome or trying to scroll on a web page. Sometimes there is the slightest delay, it's really weird.

For context, my three year old Inspiron 7352 doesn't have these strange hangups and frame drops and it's nowhere near as powerful as the 7577.

If i do a fresh installation of WIndows 10 on the 7577, everything is quick and smooth, but i run in to the screen freezing issue. Once i change a few things to make everything use the 1060, it gets weird again, but the screen doesn't freeze on me.

Games work fine, I can play Fortnite for hours and the machine just works, it maintains a solid 60fps and there's no issues.

I have run the built in diagnostics a few times now with no errors and I tried chatting with Dell support but they weren't able to find anything unusual.

Specs:

i7-7700HQ

16GB DDR4

512PCIe NVMe

1TB 5400RPM

GTX 1060

4K display

 

Just done some benchmark of Zelda: BOTW using Cemu 1.11.3, the avg fps is really good!

1080P, Vsync off.

60% percent of the time in shrine (~60fps), 40% in broad area.
"2018-01-30 20:19:11 - Cemu
Avg: 54.505 - Min: 27 - Max: 61"

100% in broad area, lots of things to render.
2018-02-05 00:41:59 - Cemu
Avg: 50.456 - Min: 35 - Max: 61"




My model is a i5 so I expect i7 to have a better result since Cemu relies a lot on CPU. My core clock does not hit the maximum capacity (3.5 GHZ), I wonder why.
But the temp is really good. Just get into the game so gonna spend some more time to see if I can tweak up to 60 fps constant.

 

Hello all,
I was wondering has anyone tried instaling windows 8.1 on the computer? I've recently read that Windows 8.1 and 7 don't "support" Kaby Lake processors like the i5-7300HQ that is in my machine so I was curious as to what would happen if I were to go Windows 8.1 as I want to avoid all the annoying windows 10 updates.
The only research I could find about this was a video by JazzyTwoCents where he tried to install Windows 8.1 on a system with a kaby lake desktop CPU and I'm looking for a bit more info than just 1 video.

 

Sorry for the double psot but I think this might be worth it. I found a great, commentary video of the teardown by a user named "Bob of All Trades" on youtube. @Maleko48 you might wanna add it to your info post.

 

Well, that's acceptable max spec 4k 7577? manufactured jan 8, 2018 ml

 

You mean the backlight bleed? Is that a statement? Question? Sarcasm?

 

Well, just my comment, because 2 days of fighting with Dell support got me approval of whole system replacement. On first they offered refund, but that was no option in this case. And I think backlight bleed was really bad on my piece of "art".

 

I hope the new system is better for you.

 

That's where I am worried, because it's problem with model design. There will be bleed always. Dell support can't offer different model and their answer about this design flaw was ridiculous:

The bleeding on the screen is not a design flaw and is working as designed. As already discussed earlier, that even if the part is replaced you will notice the bleeding in dark environment as it is working as designed. It is a normal feature of the screen which is not an issue/flaw. This update has been shared by our Product Engineering Team. ^VS

Here another:

As per the update from our product engineering team the system replacement will be of the same model. Before you proceed with the replacement, we would like to set an expectation that the LCD is going to be the same on the dark background and it's not a design flaw rather it is working as designed. Please confirm if you would like to proceed further replacement so that we can go ahead and replace the system as an exception.

 

To be fair, I've never seen a "perfect" IPS screen and I've been in this game a long time.

 

What drivers are all of you using? Nvidia recently pushed 390 updated but inspiron supoprt page is still on 388 and since the trouble I had with the drivers stuttering last time, I am weary of instaling nVidias latest drivers.

 

i try undervolt my 7300HQ with XTU, -125mV and the result was 5c degree each core. but when i shutdown my 7577 the volume is back to default at 0.mV -_-