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    Discussion in 'Dell' started by Cin', Jan 14, 2009.

  1. booboo12

    booboo12 Notebook Prophet

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    :eek: I'd be understandably frustrated as you are, esp. after probably having excellent experiences with IBM/Lenovo support. That CSR should have offered to provide provide you with all of those materials, regardless if the previous owner "kept" them. That's how the system should have arrived to you in the first place-with everything intact and in order.

    If you haven't just given up and asked for a RMA/Shipping label, I'd call/online chat again and see what another CSR has to say as this is simply inexcusable. :mad:
     
  2. Tuwa

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    Seems like Dell is "What you pay is what you get lately". I really wonder why are they screwing the outlet machines so much :confused: Not like i complain, at least i feel justice when i paid full retail price but still... that is some terrible customer service and surely not helping their reputation.

    Didn't get one from Outlet, but build quality is great, as i mentioned in my review. No flex anywhere and definitely no flex at the back as Engadget mentioned. I believe they got a pre-production piece as they reviewed Adamo before it was officially shipped to any customer.
     
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    Thanks, TUWA.

    I was just wondering about the outlet systems because these are probably first-run Adamo's.
     
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    in my opinion, this thing is horrible even at the 1k mark.

    this feels too heavy for the slim profile look.

    i also think 13.4 is kinda big.

    light leakage.. omg....

    i do love how sleek it looks especially the black one that i got.

    one more issue is when i got it, the battery charges but once i remove the power cord, it dies. sometimes it works, sometimes it doesnt.

    well i wish i could keep it but at even the 1k mark, i think im gonna go for the new lattitudes they have.
     
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    ^^

    That's unfortunate to hear... I was hoping the Adamo was a truly great ultraportable.

    Guess it's good I didn't end up getting one....
     
  6. mdjohns

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    I have an Adamo on its way to me.
    I'm going to install Windows 7 RTM as soon as I get my hands on it.
    I'm also going to swap the AT&T broadband card for a Verizon EVDO Rev. A (anyone try this?)
     
  7. Vogelbung

    Vogelbung I R Judgemental

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    You bought a reconditioned system and you're disappointed when you don't get the 'new' experience? Entitled much?


    This is a general summary I started writing a few weeks ago in reply to someone while browsing through this thred: I don't think I posted it, so here it is.

    If anything, I need them to go higher-end and be more focused as to what they're going to deliver. I think the Adamo is a reasonable first step for Dell as far as the 'definitive high-end' goes, but it certainly needs more work.

    As much as I am feeling the overtly technological sleekness of the Adamo when sitting on the desk, I now feel a tiny bit of an idiot for buying it - as I was, I must admit, kind of expecting. I like the tactile aspects of the body, although I'm not feeling the keyboard as much. The performance is fine, as pointed out above, for the type of use it'll be put to and it would be pointless to complain that it hasn't got a GPU, etc - such complaints are made by people who don't know what this machine is for.

    Pricewise while it is pegged at the high end, I don't think it's wholly unreasonable as some have said given the entire package - in fact, the price tack-ons are actually 'premium' unlike Apple.

    But you see, when all is said I feel that the Adamo is neither here nor there - and this is what I see as its biggest problem.

    In terms of it's construction, it's not runaway premium in the use of alloys in comparison to the Apples. While the structure is definitely more robust than the Air, the Adamo suffers from the fact that it uses the same process and materials as the Macbooks. The 'unibody' process is overhyped to people who don't understand what it involves and it's not stronger than many of the manufacturing methods already out there.

    It may *feel* better - and that is what Apple is very good at: The triumph of marketing to the ego-packing who believe they're well informed. It's no coincidence that the rise of Web 2.0 - where everyone's opinion, no matter how dumb / manipulated it is, counts - has helped propel the popularity of Apple.

    But coming back to the issue of the process I just think, regardless of how cool (both literally and figuratively) aluminium feels, a rolled slab of it is not something that you should be especially carving laptops out from - there are better materials and processes for the job out there. We aren't talking about a premium home stereo but something that will be carried around a lot. This problem of course manifests itself in the very noticeable extra bulk to provide the (necessary IMO considering the comparatively bend-prone Air) rigidity in a squared-off case.

    What I'd personally like to see in a truly premium notebook is a re-interpretation of the common magnesium subframe construction but with more design-orientated aspects in the subframe like, well, Apple's approach to the innards of the unibody, bonded/screwed to a carbon - not Sony/Lenovo's moulded variant but thermoset - outer skin with a protective outer layer, with aluminium accents. This will be more expensive, but if done properly it will also look it, unlike some of Sony's latest frankly rather plasticky 'carbon fiber' creations - and it will also be significantly lighter.

    I think it has a certain edge in styling on a macro level, being free of the need of the Apples to follow at times too minimalist styling cues. My overall preference is definitely for the more assertive look of the Adamo. But the Air's general lines are - Dell's stylistic flourishes aside - undoubtedly more striking in real life even almost 18 months after release.

    On a more granular level, the design and the product as a whole isn't as holistically thought-out as the Air. While it's generally a *good* thing that in terms of Product Engineering Dell is taking notes from the Sony "Build it tiny, but still like a brick ****house" School of the early 90's, it seems they're also taking Design notes from the same source / decade. Given Apple's demonstrated mastery in this respect, lots more 'aha' detail touches are now de facto requirements to be considered high-end in terms of being driven by design - which the Adamo clearly pegs itself to be - if you don't have an excuse in the form of truly pushing notebook engineering envelopes in terms of weight or cramming in features like Sony, Toshiba et al are doing now.

    In terms of runtime, like the Air (but to a slightly more usable extent) it's not an all-dayer despite the lack of a removable battery. While it's far better connected than an Air, it's worse connected than many lighter, more powerful machines.

    Frankly speaking, all the merits it does have, it still doesn't change the fact that it's not quite anything. In terms of a more cool-headed feature/benefit ratio the optical-less SSD model of the Toshiba R600 is a particularly notable elephant in the room - or if you like, a giant, helium-filled skeletal mouse. It weighs less than half that of the Adamo while having roughly similar capability - and that is very hard to reconcile even if you place a premium on style.

    Put simply, I have to have a reason to carry the (at least) extra pound over it's similarly priced and specced compadres, and the level of style that the Adamo provides is, as it turns out, not enough reason over the likes of the TT, X30x, R600, etc - and I've finally made my choice as to my daily carry in the form of the DVD'd / SSD'd R600, and as I have to run OS X as well I tolerate the Macbook Air - with an external battery to balance out its low runtime, which with an 8.5-hour real-life total runtime still comes in at pretty much the same weight for the combo as an Adamo.

    All told, it looks fantastic by itself on my office desk - but given the compromises I think there is where it might sit for far more than is warranted for a notebook. I don't really have a problem with thinking about it as functional furniture - but I doubt this will be something I'll be carting around on on a daily basis for the next year or so that I might hang onto it.
     
  8. rainythursday

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    Nice commentary, Vogelbung.

    I don't mind the extra pound of weight, but then, I also place a high value on design. Also, I'm very happy to bypass the fancy packaging for the discount in the outlet.

    Even though Dell still has not shipped my replacement (they said up to 15 business days, though inventory is available at the outlet), I have certain reservations.

    The main concern is that the machine sporadically has very noticeable lag when scrolling or using the trackpad. I've never encountered this on the D830. I adjusted my touchpad setting to match the D830, but its still present. I don't know if its a defect in the machine (this is a refurb) or if its because of the 1.4 CULV. Note that this is while running on battery, but power is set to high performance.

    As I mentioned before, I don't get the fascination with glossy systems, and this onyx machine is notorious for showing fingerprints.

    The audio from the included speakers points backward, so its coming from below and behind the display. As a result, I've had some trouble hearing various programs on cnet tv. (even if I adjust the system and media player volumes to max)

    I agree that's its a fantastic looking machine, and at the outlet prices, a worthwhile purchase for me. (as long as the scroll lag isn't present on the new machine.)
     
  9. mdjohns

    mdjohns Notebook Enthusiast

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    I am experiencing similar issues running Windows 7 64-bit, I went to Synaptics and installed their latest drivers (after uninstalling the Dell driver package). It seems to be working a little better, but still sometimes it is not responsive. I'm guessing it is due to the materials used for the touchpad, its not made of plastic like other Dell touchpads.
     
  10. kitir

    kitir Notebook Consultant

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    I experienced similar feelings with touchpad, but after longer observation it occured it is too much responsive. Scrolling was very jerky and too fast. Adjusting number of scrolling lines in the system mouse panel (in wheel tab) from default 3 to 1 did helped. Now srolling is very smooth and precise.

    cheers

    M.

    PS. Yes I have refurb.
     
  11. exi

    exi Notebook Evangelist

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    All,

    Would you advise trying out an Adamo as a notebook, ordered from the Outlet, to use in place of a MacBook Pro?

    I'm on a 15" MBP right now -- a 2.53 GHz C2D one -- and I'm just not the world's biggest OS X fan. Was thinking about going with the Adamo, although I'm aware that the battery life and performance will be less.

    Also -- where in the world are these low-$1000 prices coming from? I'd very much appreciate a PM or anything on that; I've hunted around on several coupon sites, and I'm only finding one or two expired coupons that could be used on the Adamo.
     
  12. kitir

    kitir Notebook Consultant

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    Hi,

    Be sure, battery life and performance will be less. But this is normal with such components inside. Adamo wasn't engineered as road warrior and primary work machine. It is rather supporting laptop for light work or special occasions as important business meetings. And this way I'm using it - as support it is best I could have.
    I'm changing from E4300 2,4Ghz and 5h of battery work to Adamo. 1,2GHz and 3-3,5h of light-to-mid work (this is normal time for my example, but ofc it depends. I can run 4h but with "minimal" settings which I don't like really). Processor is enough fast for office and simple works, but you couldn't expect it will be a speed daemon. I'm working with AutoCAD 2008 quite normally, MS Office (Excel and big Word files) and I never find a slowdowns. Only one thing is making me crazy - charging time is an absurd. After 3h of work you have to charge it 4h ! It should be around half of working time.

    cheers

    K.
     
  13. Vogelbung

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    http://www.laptopbatteryexpress.com/Universal-External-Laptop-Notebook-Battery-p/am-pp66s.htm

    I'm thinking about ordering one of these. It should work with the Adamo. I have a small bunch of very similar units for the Air (60wh Hypermac) and the runtime is about 8.5 hours on super power ekeing (Air itself goes for 3.5 hours in real-life use). You should therefore be able to get 9+ hours on the Adamo using the 66wh cell above in similar ekeing use.

    Unfortunately you'll now be carrying an all-up weight of 5.5lbs, but... well, it's your call.

    Oh yeah - all Onyx users. How bad is the fingerprint magnet / dust issue in real terms over a decent period of ownership? Warts and all opinions please.

    I'm having real second thoughts about the Pearl: As nice as it is, the Onyx calls out to me every time I go visit the Dell site.
     
  14. kitir

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    Me too. I have very positive experience with slice battery in XT and XT2 Latitudes - so naturally I thought about some additional battery.
    I have to be sure this battery will use connector for Adamo (it is different than in Latitues).

    Onyx is dust magnet indeed, especialy with all-metal "electrostatic" case. But it is not so strong, and I'm using special anti-dust (anti-electrostatic) clothes and it helps much.
    Fingerprints - highly polished screen and top cover are catching them. I have to wipe those surfaces once per two days to keep clean look - but it is not so bad after Latitude E4300 experience. Rest of Adamo case, brushed metal, touchpad and keyboard are rather fingerprint resistive and this is great. With E4300 I had to clean constantly all black plastic surfaces - backlit keyboard horrible catched my fingerprints, the same was with touchpad buttons. Adamo is free of that, and I'm really happy.
    I used Pearl for some time (I'm planning it for my girl) and in fact those dust and finger marks are less visible. But I can't imagine to use light aluminium Adamo on the meeting. I love black ;)

    cheers

    M.
     
  15. Mad*Max

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    I adore the design , maybe ill buy it
    Will i be able to play smoothly 1080p, Photoshop smooth work with the integrated graphics?
    i couldnt do it with 128mb dv6000 graphics...
     
  16. Mad*Max

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    Could someone of the owners describe the performance compared to a t9400 for exaple, just to give me an idea
    Also 3G, it means that you can put a Sim card in ANY country and have internet?

    + do i get W7 free upgrade if i purchase from outlet?

    Thanks
     
  17. Tuwa

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    I have no problems getting around 5 hours when using mine, and that's 1.4GHz, but i guess it depends on your regular work. After 6 episodes of Family Guy i was watching on the airplane (each episode has roughly 22 minutes, regular DVD-Rip, non-HD) i had 55% of battery left, and movies are quite demanding as far as i know. Also when i was writing my dissertation, running just MS Word 2007 and 3 opened .pdf's in the background i got to around 5:20 or so before getting critical battery warning at 5%. I'm running Dell's default power profile, keyboard is lit to max brightness, LCD brightness is set to 1 (one notch from off), anything higher is way too bright for me. I'm not sure if there are different batteries in 1.2 and 1.4GHz versions or if 1.2GHz gets lower battery time due to lower speed and CPU has to be stressed more, thus increasing the overall energy consumption, but 5 hours is definitely possible with regular office work. Getting such mileage on regular basis.

    Onyx is more sleek and business-like imho. Pearl is too much "fashionable" for my taste with all the decorative etching, kinda like Apple :) From my experience, dust isn't really an issue, it gets wiped away with regular use when typing and such. And i keep my Adamo in sleeve when not using it, so no dust collecting when it's idle. As for fingerprints, it's bearable. I was quite horrified when i got it first, there were fingerprints everywhere after having it in hands for 5 minutes, but once you learn how and where to touch it (oooh sexual innuendo) you will reduce them to minimum. I started to put my Adamo into sleeve with the glossy LCD lid inside, pushing it inside by holding the matte backside. That way, when i want to take it out of sleeve, i can grab it by the matte side and not glossy, thus eliminating any fingerprints. Same goes for when you are carrying it around without sleeve, just hold it at the back side, problem solved. You will leave some fingerprints when you want to open the display lid, but if you are careful and open it by the sides, only edges of your fingers will touch the glossy finish so fingerprints will be very small and unnoticeable. Also, whenever i give it to my girlfriend, she can open it without ANY fingerprints at all, so perhaps men are messy by nature, who knows. Bottomline, even though Onyx attracts all kinds of dirt, if you are careful and pay attention where you hold your hand, you can eliminate most of it. It all comes down to deciding, whether you have patience and can be bothered with being careful, or if you are the type that just grabs stuff hastily without having time to pay attention.

    1080p plays fine on 1.4GHz version, no clue about lower model, someone else might answer that. No clue about photoshop, never used it, but i recall a friend of mine who was using photoshop on ancient Pentium III 800MHz with some ancient graphic card and it worked, just like everything else worked 10 years ago. But i have no clue what 'smooth performance' means in photoshop terms so yeah... better ask someone who is skilled with that software, he should know what kind of performance you can expect from Adamo hardware. You might even want to ask in other forum sections, there are several laptops with same specs as Adamo, for example Lenovo X301.

    I believe it works that way. I have tried SIM cards of 3 different European carriers so far (UK, Austria, Slovakia) and no issues whatsoever. You should still ask your mobile operator if they use any special hardware/frequency/whatever though, just to be sure. I'm sure they even have some test SIM car in the store which you can perhaps try, before committing to the contract. Also mind that the SIM slot tray is a tad fragile and i would definitely not recommend using it often. Not that i damaged it or anything, but it feels a bit flimsy, and there's even warning in user manual to take extra care when handling it.
     
  18. Mad*Max

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    Thanks
    the 3G function is truly great

    I also have a i7 desktop now, im typing on it, and im selling it
    Instead i wanted to get this work of art, because of its design
    I saw on some charts that it takes 2 times longer than T9400, you can imagine compared to a i7
    So if its a few seconds more from 10 minutes, its unbelievable
    Tuwa are you sure?, id've thought 20 minutes

    about photoshop, im really in need of some info on performance
     
  19. Tuwa

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    I think we had a slight misunderstanding in PM, i sent you another to clarify :) Also i have a feeling from your post that you want to buy a laptop that will be your primary computer after selling your desktop, and in that case i would NOT recommend Adamo. It's a great little machine but it suffers from same illness as Macbook Air, Lenovo X301 and others - it's not meant to be a primary computer. You will miss power for heavy tasks. It's a portable (almost ultraportable) machine, not a work-horse. If you want laptop for everything, get some 15.4"-17" with proper C2D or C2Q and dedicated graphic card.
     
  20. Mad*Max

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    Yes i considered m6400 before this
    But i wont use its full potential

    Im obsessed with build quality and the adamo has it

    As i said Basic+Watch HD + little Music+video encode + little photoshop
    im confident it will be good enough

    So the Fan Noise wont be a problem?
    +
    REALLY is the charge time 4 HOURS ?
    it should be fixed by bios?
     
  21. Tuwa

    Tuwa Notebook Consultant

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    Charge time is long indeed, and it won't be fixed by bios. It has something to do with ultraslim batteries, Macbook Air also takes eternity to charge, takes considerably longer to fully charge than for example Macbook Pro, which uses regular size battery. Either fast charging produces more heat which would damage the slim battery or some other hardware inside, or it's some sort of technology bottleneck and it would be too costly if they wanted to maintain both high battery life, ultraslim size, low heat and fast charging. But seeing both Dell and Apple suffering from slow charging of their slim batteries, the solution probably isn't that easy to find, otherwise they would already come up with it.
     
  22. Mad*Max

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    Thanks Tuwa youve helped me alot +rep
    2 last things:
    Fans Loudness- Ive heard you barely hear it, from others that it sounds like a turbine
    Tempteratures- are they ok, or you feel the hotness on the palm rests?

    As soon as i sell the desktop, im ordering one

    Onyx
    1.4Ghz
    4Gb ram
    128GB SSD
     
  23. Tuwa

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    As i said in one of my very early posts about fan noise, it really depends... when idle or under light load, you barely hear them. On full blow, they do sound like a turbine. I also mentioned that i haven't seen it blowing fully many times, it spins at minimum RPMs most of the time - browsing internet, text editing, watching movies, playing mp3, antivirus scan.

    When playing CS:Source, it goes to full-out mode in regular intervals (maybe every 5 minutes?) for a while and then slows down again. CULV C2D is pretty cool and doesn't get as hot as regular C2Ds, so you don't need that much cooling either. Palm rests are fine, they are anywhere between slightly cold to slightly warm, but far far away from typical meaning of hot you may know from more powerful laptops. The bottom of the laptop is a bit warmer, but still only luke warm, and you can keep it on your lap even for few hours without feeling discomfort. Only part of the laptop that can be considered "hot" is the area just below display, but this seems to be the hottest part on all laptops i ever owned, and it was still much cooler than on others. I have owned two 15.4" Acers, one 17" Dell XPS, one 14" Toshiba and 15.4" Macbook Pro, and Adamo is by far the coldest (or rather least warm) laptop i had.
     
  24. Mad*Max

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    +rep+rep+rep
     
  25. Mad*Max

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    PCmag, ubergizmo, Gizmodo ,Engadget
    all say that the fans are constanly spinning

    you said its silent most of the time
    or is it silent because they are spinning slowly?
    or not spinning
    please someone clarify
     
  26. Tuwa

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    Don't know if they are not spinning or spinning very slowly when under light load, i tried to put my hand at the back of the laptop but didn't feel any air flow. But maybe they are spinning so slowly when idle that they don't blow much air, who knows... but i don't think it's important. Bottom line is that they are very quiet, almost silent. Until "turbine" kicks in, but that's not very often :) Or at least unless you use it as a heavy workstation for constant encoding and gaming.

    One thing to keep in mind when reading a review is that the person testing it runs the laptop through a bunch of synthetic benchmarks, and some of them are very heavy and stressful for the computer as it pushes it to the performance limits. This produces excessive heat, so the fans have to blow more and it feels like laptop is noisy. However, such situation is very unrealistic during normal use. Sure it's great when i know that my laptop can score X points in some useless test, but in real life i don't care about that, because i'm not running the benchmark but actual internet browser and text editor, and in that case, load will be much lower and so will be the overall noise and heat. I might be interested in synthetic benchmarks if i was interested in buying a server station, not an ultraslim laptop. I would definitely not be worried about noise too much.
     
  27. Mad*Max

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    I trust you Tuwa
    But all of this 4 reviews say under basic tasks
    Maybe your computer is unique?
    Any other adamo owner? Satisfied with the noise?

    Thanks again
     
  28. Tuwa

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    Maybe, who knows... i'm sure there are some other users who can share their experience. My laptop is very quiet though.

    Also not sure about other 3 sites, but Engadget is very Apple biased, and that Adamo they tested was a pre-production piece, it had few more issues like flimsy build quality and such. If you want a trustworthy review, i would look for something that was written at least 2-4 weeks after official launch. Those pre-production laptops tend to have untweaked bios and some other incompatibilities, so they might be noisier.
     
  29. Mad*Max

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    Are you the only owner?
    Nobody writes here nowadays
    lol
     
  30. exi

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    I'm having one delivered this week and will try to do a review if I can.
     
  31. Mad*Max

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    OK hopefully ill order mine end of this week
     
  32. kitir

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    Definitely yes. Tuwa has 1,4GHz processor and is able to get 5h of work (I don't know how measured - I'm using Battery Bar and it is showing real working (and charging) time - I checked that with clock).
    I have 1,2GHz and never riched that period. My maximum working time is about 4h, usually 3,5 (I'm using lovest screen backlighting, all over that is too bright for me too - as Tuwa said). It depends on load, when I'm working hard it takes "only" 3h (but this is enough for me).
    BTW after 3,5h battery work, my charging takes 4,5.

    I agree with Tuwa according noise - my laptop is silent almost all time, fan is starting for a moment every 1 hour and stops after few minutes, sometimes it stays on the lowest rpm and it is still silent.
    Overall this laptop stays cold all time with normal work.

    Me ? Few days ago ?

    cheers

    K.
     
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    As i said, lower processor speed might have something to do with battery life. When the computer is idle, slower CPU has lower consumption. However, i don't think laptops are idle very often, people either work on them or put them to sleep. Once you start working, 1.4GHz CPU gets under medium load and maintains average, but stable power consumption. 1.2GHz on the other hand might be a bit slow and some tasks force it to go into 100% cpu load, which drastically increases power consumption and also heat production, so fans have to blow more often and this results in even more battery drain. It's only 200MHz difference but it can make difference between maintaining 60% load and 100% load over certain period of time, and it's the consumption under load that mostly affects overall battery life.

    Speaking of measuring method, as i said earlier, 6 episodes of Family Guy (6x 22minutes = 2h 12m) drained slightly less than half battery. Which means there was still juice left for additional ~2 hours of playback. 5 hours of text editing was rather simple as i started to type at 9am after waking up and finished at around half past 2pm when i went for lunch. Mind you there wasn't any real activity on the computer, just opened MS Word and 3 pdf documents... no browsing, opening, nothing, just reading and typing.
     
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    One more thing
    I looked at a cpu benchmark list @ notebookcheck
    i7 920(mine) has 14-28-780 on superpi 1m/2m/32m
    and su9400 30 66 1567

    this is a 100% stress test, so the su9400 is exactly 2 times slower than a desktop i7 920
    something is not right
     
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    Well, it has double the amount of cores and almost twice as high frequency, why couldn't it be twice as fast? :)
     
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    Because it took twice the time
    Overclocking gods, (none are adamo owners probably lol) is my math true?
     
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    Of course superpi calculation was done twice faster on desktop, because Core i7 is twice faster. What exactly is the problem? I don't see anything suspicious there?
     
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    The Core i7 should be 10 times faster
     
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    You know, looking at the exchange of posts it seems to me that you're probably not the right guy to be buying an Adamo. You're into it becuase of the way it looks, but from what it seems to me you look for in a machine you might be better served with a mainstream higher-end machine from the likes of Asus, etc.

    Just my 2c.

    I have got my quote for an Onyx. I can't believe I'll be buying two of what I'm not actually using a heck of a lot in any case... but I have a feeling I'll be Onyx-bound fairly soon. Having too many incidents of 'buyer's remorse' buying the Pearl.
     
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    Why should it be 10 times faster (1000%)? Core i7 is roughly 5-20% faster than equivalent C2Q, and up to 90% faster than equivalent C2D if we are being optimistic and application is tweaked to take advantage of 4 cores and i7 architecture, in most cases it's somewhere between 10-50% improvement according to benchmarks.

    The difference in frequency between 1.4GHz C2D and 2.66GHz C2D might yield 80-90% improvement in performance at best if we are optimistic, but that's probably pushing it. Even if you take the best possible scenario from some utopic cyberspace, you can't come even close to conclusion that 2.67GHz Core i7 is 10 times faster than 1.4GHz C2D. More like 2-4 times faster, depending on software used. I'm no CPU expert so i will gladly learn something new, but i can't understand how did you come to conclusion that it should be 10 times faster. Comparing Core i7 to some lowly Atom might bring such high differences, but not C2D, at least i doubt it.


    I was thinking the same and already suggested some mainstream 15.4 inch. The excessive focus on performance, benchmarks and Core i7 comparisons are not really things which Adamo buyers consider. It often ends in disappointment, but it's buyers money so it's his call that counts.
     
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    Hmmm. Probably 11 I guess. I hope it's not an Atom - it would garner my complete disinterest in that case.

    And anyway, what is up with the Adamo XPS? Isn't this, in terms of branding, like a Maserati Abarth?
     
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    It'll have the QX9300 for a base proc and an upgrade to the 55w TDP i7920XM..... :rolleyes:

    What do you want this thing to have in it besides a slow ULV or slower Atom?
     
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    Very very interesting...My interest is def. peaked..I would love to have a further *looksy* at this. Especially if it's gonna have something similar of a take off of *look* of the XPS line. :D

    And, hopefully it will refrain from anything of the Atom inside.

    [​IMG]


    Cin...
     
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    Please don't confuse me for those who're unable to reconcile the inadequacy of their wallet with their misguided, relatively uninformed aspirations, then complain that it's crap. Since the critical mass of Web 2.0 we do really seem to have a lot of that, and I'm tired of it too.

    In this case, my complete disinterest with anything featuring an Atom is simply indicative of the fact that I am not interested in revisiting the more or less equivalent performance of ultraportables I had >5 years ago.

    I would like a C2D ULV still in there. Failing that (but under protest), a CULV/Core Solo equivalent. Anything less - not interested.
     
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    Considering that Adamo 13 is running very cool even with 1.4GHz C2D, i'm rather sure that this 9.99mm Adamo can handle it as well, there seem to be plenty of reserve. If they put Atom in it, i would say they are losing it :) Atom is ok for what it's meant, but it really shouldn't be in premium model line.

    Would be perfect if they opted for single core CULV for basic model and 1.2GHz C2D CULV for higher model, and update Adamo 13 with 1.4 CULV as basic model, and 1.6 CULV for higher model. Leave Atom for cheap netbooks.
     
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    Adamo XPS... I'm not sure what I think about these name interchanges. Why can't it just be Adamo 9?
    First we have Studio XPS. Nowthe Adamo XPS.
    Is there going to me a Mini XPS, Studio Inspiron, Inspiron XPS, Studio Adamo :confused:
    Ooh I forgot, the Mini series is actually Inspiron Mini.

    Meh...
     
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    I will be very disappointed if it has only an Atom even the new N470 one.
    If it is an Atom in there, I hope it is, at least, an ION.

    Some thoughts:
    - The total height is 9,99mm included the display.
    I have never seen a LED display thinner than 4-5mm. That means that the main body containing the components should be only 5-6mm in height. This is almost unbelievable! But if that is true there is simply no sufficient height for the ports. Even USB ports are 8-9mm in height. The only solution would be a proprietary port with an extension dock for the usual ports!

    - Is this a hint that it will be the first OLED screen notebook? With today technology, only OLED displays can be thinner than the thinnest LED LCD's.

    P.S. Sorry about the double post. I have already wrote this on another thread about the new Adamo I opened first. I did this to differentiate from the old Adamo. But maybe it is better to continue here. :eek:
     
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