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    ~Asus F9S Chilling Lounge~

    Discussion in 'ASUS Reviews and Owners' Lounges' started by omni, Nov 15, 2007.

  1. arunragavan

    arunragavan Notebook Consultant

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    absolutly i agree with you.. am not bothered about the windows rating since processor scores very high, so does my RAM.. :D i love this laptop!!! small and elegent..
     
  2. eteri

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    is it possible to use the fingerprint reader as a log in password for getting on the comp? if its possible , will it be wise to use it or would a type in password do better?
     
  3. E.B.E.

    E.B.E. NBR Procrastinator

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    Sure it should be possible, that's its main purpose I think. Don't ask me about software though, I never used such a thing. :) ASUS should provide software to do that on the utility disk, or it should be integrated into Vista.

    Personally I'd prefer a typed password, but I'm just old fashioned.
     
  4. arunragavan

    arunragavan Notebook Consultant

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    haha.. one way out..immagine getting you fingers burnt!! i dunt think u can log into windows ever!! so its better to have both enabled..password + Fingerprint reader!!
     
  5. eteri

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    yea would hate it if that happens. so r u saying that its possible to have a back up password if the fingerprint reader fails?
     
  6. arunragavan

    arunragavan Notebook Consultant

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    Yes absolutely.. there are around 5 different way to authenticate and get in, best option is to enable the FPR and also the normal way which is by entering the password.

    Sometimes it would be really annoying when it takes several attempts of swiping the fingers again and again to login..

    Keep the normal password entry as backup option.

    Regards,
     
  7. eteri

    eteri Notebook Enthusiast

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    thnx, i was wondering if its possible for a back password cause the fpr might fail, and i don't want to not be able to access my laptop, that would suck.
    btw how u do it?
     
  8. arunragavan

    arunragavan Notebook Consultant

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    yes, u can backup the passwords in a separate USB.. jes try to run the TPM manager from the system tray, you would be prompted.
     
  9. eteri

    eteri Notebook Enthusiast

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    ...huh? ssry bit of newb, its okay for now till i get the f9s.
     
  10. eteri

    eteri Notebook Enthusiast

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    has anyone added a 1 or 2 gb ram to the f9s? is the performance a huge deference? and by installing it ur self would it valid the warrenty? and how much fo a 1 or 2 gb ram?
     
  11. E.B.E.

    E.B.E. NBR Procrastinator

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    Warranty wouldn't be voided.
    Upgrading 1GB to more will be felt. If it's already 2GB you won't feel much of a difference.
    Prices, just use the Internet I think...
     
  12. eteri

    eteri Notebook Enthusiast

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    a 1 gig ram is 40 bucks cnd, but how bout 2 gigs? can't find it anymore, might try bestbuy...

    -tnx by the way!
     
  13. pr5owner

    pr5owner Notebook Consultant

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    no, bestbuy/futureshop are the worst computers stores known to mankind, they dont offer anything good at anytime, they should just be banned from exsistence.

    1GB of NOT $40, you can in the US get 4GB of ram for $40

    at memoryexpress 2GB of patriot 5300 ram is ~$40, same with memex

    i got my f9s yesterday along with the patriot ram, apparently the laptop will still somehow do dual ch with the nanya 1GB and the patriot 2GB.

    3GB is nice since asus is retarded and used a toshiba bluetooth adapter that requires like 10 processes running in the background. its the only thing acer has on Asus, asus uses dumb software switches where acer uses hardware switches for all the cards.

    EC: touchpad switcher only works in windows, where acer touchpad switcher would work even in any OS or even in the bios.
     
  14. eteri

    eteri Notebook Enthusiast

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    what do u mean by touchpad switcher?
     
  15. E.B.E.

    E.B.E. NBR Procrastinator

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    On/off toggle button.
     
  16. eteri

    eteri Notebook Enthusiast

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    just saw the f9sg-a1 is avalible for pre order but is it better than the f9s-b1

    the f9sg has
    3gs
    250 gb hard drive
    nvidia 9300 g 256 mb
    intel core 2 duo t8100 (2.1 ghz)

    which is better? need help!
    thnx in advance
     
  17. E.B.E.

    E.B.E. NBR Procrastinator

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    Well, supposedly the new one is better because the Penryn and the 9300 are both based on a smaller transistor size -- therefore they should eat less power and put out less heat.

    However, I have a strong feeling that there will be almost no real-life difference, at least with an ASUS, i.e., the battery life will be as abysmal as it is now.

    So if you need the notebook now, I'd say buy it now and don't look back. Otherwise, if you can wait, you may wait. :) Take into account that there may be a while until the computer actually arrives (resellers will have more detailed info perhaps).
     
  18. eteri

    eteri Notebook Enthusiast

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    the f9sg comes out this month (that's what it said on website), i can wait, i hope.
    by the way, how does the t8100 (2.1 ghz) compared to the t7500(2.2 ghz)?
     
  19. E.B.E.

    E.B.E. NBR Procrastinator

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    If I'm not mistaken the t8XX will have 6MB L2 cache, right? I think that will offset the .1GHz difference in speed, making the T8100 perform better.

    edit: After a google search: actually, no, it seems T8100 has 3MB cache. So it will be slighly slower than the 7500 I expect. Nothing to worry about in real life though, except if you run tasks that top up the CPU on a daily basis.
     
  20. eteri

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    thnx for the reply
     
  21. brendan_toh

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    T8100 and T8300 are based on 45nm technology with 3MB L2 cache. If you are looking for 6MB L2 cache then look for T9300 and T9500. T7500 is based on 65nm technology
     
  22. E.B.E.

    E.B.E. NBR Procrastinator

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    That is all correct.
     
  23. eteri

    eteri Notebook Enthusiast

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    thnx for all the info, but i couldn't find the info on the deference between the 4 mb and 3 mb l2 cache.
     
  24. E.B.E.

    E.B.E. NBR Procrastinator

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    What info are you looking for?
     
  25. eteri

    eteri Notebook Enthusiast

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    like how the size of the cache matters between the two proccessors, if they both are the same speed (like a 7XXX series against a 8XXX series)
     
  26. E.B.E.

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    Aha, performance difference. I don't know but google should help. For instance there may be benchmarks between the exact same two processors. You might find SuperPi benchmarks for computers with those two exact CPUs even in the reviews here (assuming computers with that Penryn have been released), and that will give you an idea.
     
  27. ClearSkies

    ClearSkies Well no, I'm still here..

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    The difference between 7 series and 8/9 series cpus is not helpful: the cache size is only a minor factor, and the Penryn procs are a modified architecture using a smaller manufacturing scale (45nm vs 65nm) so everything is physically closer on the chip and data doesn't have to travel as far.

    For effects of just the cache by itself, you'd need to specifically look for comparisons between the 8/9 series chips. Even then you probably won't find effective direct comparisons because afaik the 9 series are clocked higher than the 8's so you're dealing with the combined effect of higher speed and increased L2 cache.
     
  28. God OF Death

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    now is the f9sg basically a refresh with new mobo and ports? and does it still have 3g capabilities?
     
  29. fenrus110

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    Is the heat for this laptop only a problem under intense usage? Is msging/surfing on my lap feasible?
     
  30. Salsero

    Salsero Newbie

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    since i'm looking for a decent gaming and portable laptop i'm about to buy the F9sg it seems right and good price range what do you guys think ? and also since i read you're talking about the battery life i'm thinking about buying an extra battery juz in case !
     
  31. Salsero

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    wow ur serious no posts for 2 months lol
     
  32. E.B.E.

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    Did you consider filling in the FAQ?
     
  33. ILoveMoogles

    ILoveMoogles Notebook Evangelist

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    Hmm, I have been looking at this little notebook here and there. If anyone actually bought that refresh model with the bigger hard drive and the newer processor, etc. How is it? Does it "feel" like a "budget" model?

    I've been thinking that getting a bigger laptop with a "better" card might be overkill for me over time. I have no problem with any heat that comes from it though, as it's a side vent and not a bottom vent. (Might be able to sacrifice the speakers for portability, and no, I don't want a Dell.) I think the worst things I'm going to play are probably something with WoW graphics (not WoW though, mind you, and I don't have to play things on very high. I have no interest in those shooting games either).

    Are the things somewhat durable enough? Does it feel like it's going to break at any moment or something? (Any chance Asus might release a Montevina version? xD I doubt it though.)
     
  34. Cretu

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    Hi,

    I have been searching hard on the internet, and, obviously, I found the G86 (8400M) is affeced by NVIDIA fault, but, is the 9300M G (G86 M) (which is the one that uses my Asus F9Sg) affected by the fiasco?

    I ask this because I found nothing clear about the 9300M G. I know this thing its based on the 8400M, but as far as I know, they are not complete identical, so thats suggest they were manufactured at other time.


    Thanks in advance.
     
  35. E.B.E.

    E.B.E. NBR Procrastinator

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    I'd also like to know that. I never found clear information about this.
     
  36. Cretu

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    Attached screenshot of GPU-Z.

    BTW, why is that thing at PCI-E 8x? I can't find any option to enable 16x.
     

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  37. theZoid

    theZoid Notebook Savant

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    What's the diff between the U6V and F9 besides 350.00? LED Backlighting?
     
  38. E.B.E.

    E.B.E. NBR Procrastinator

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    Supposedly better build quality on the U6, because it's more of a business machine than the F9, which is budget. But this is all in the "supposedly" territory, at least for me. :)

    The looks are also different, I think.
     
  39. omni

    omni Notebook Evangelist NBR Reviewer

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    Just expanded my Laptop, since it's my primary PC/desktop replacer.

    [​IMG]


    Also, I want to build a cooling pad for my laptop, as with the new set up, the CPU idels at 60+ and GPU idles at 70+.

    Can anyone please tell me the best area to place the fans? Where are the best vents to the laptop?
     
  40. E.B.E.

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    In ASUS, air is pulled from under the notebook and pushed out through one side. So you need a cooler that blows upwards. Besides that, I think you can identify the vent locations yourself. :)
     
  41. omni

    omni Notebook Evangelist NBR Reviewer

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    the reason why I was asking was because some of the vents look "fake"

    Also, since the cooling pad won't cover ALL the vents, which vents would be the most effective?
     
  42. pr5owner

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    i updated the bios to 305 but now the fan doesnt spin fast enough an the cpu idles at 70C is there anyway to control the fan speed on this laptop?
     
  43. E.B.E.

    E.B.E. NBR Procrastinator

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    I am not sure you will be able to control the fan, most people fail to do this on ASUS notebooks. I suggest reverting to older BIOS, since having bad fan behavior and an overheating notebook is NOT a good idea.

    To find out how to revert to the old BIOS, have a look at my BIOS guide, linked from the signature.
     
  44. pr5owner

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    thanks EBE, went back to 302 and the fan runs normally now, before with 305 the exhaust from the vent was so hot it would burn me
     
  45. omni

    omni Notebook Evangelist NBR Reviewer

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    I underclocked the GPU on this baby to the lowest settings and now it produces a lot less heat. A LOT LESS! The cores, rather than being at 63 degrees (celcius) are now running happily at ~53-55 celcius.
    And here's the icing on the cake: Before underclocking it, I only got about a despicable 1.5 hours of battery, but now I'm getting something around 2.00-2.5 hours.
    WHOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!

    Can't wait to see what undervolting the CPU does.

    Edit:

    Oh my God! The keyboard is actually comfortable to use now. I can't believe I didn't do this earlier.
    Tomorrow or the day after, I definitely will have to try the undervolting. Hoping to get at least 30 more minutes out of battery.
     
  46. 13sundin

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    hey guys... for some reason when i plug in the laptop the orange light only blinks and doesnt charge... its suck at 1% any ideasÉ

    thx
     
  47. David

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    See if this helps:

    Turn off your notebook, unplug the power cord, remove the battery, wait a few seconds, replace battery, plug in power cord, restart notebook.
     
  48. 13sundin

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    nope it still doesnt work :(
     
  49. E.B.E.

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    Your battery is possibly dead...

    Did you perhaps leave it uncharged and sitting for a long time? If the charge goes down past a critical limit, a LiIon battery will die...

    You could try the battery calibration option in the BIOS, but if the battery doesn't charge at all, I don't know how this could work.
     
  50. 13sundin

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    this might be it
     
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