The Ultimate W90VP-A1 Review

how can you overclock your stock 2.0 quad core to 2.3 ghz?sorry im a noob here.and also, are there any dangers if i overclock the quad core to 2.3?will it destroy the laptop?

im planning on buying this on gentech pc so i need advise here

and did anyone finish crysis using that laptop? if so,are there any slowdown using that laptop?

btw,vicious and ken, thanks for adding a review for that laptop.i just need to get a couple of questions down

 

The built in turbo gear program does it with a few presses of the mouse

 

it won't minimize the laptop life if i overclock the cpu to 2.3 ghz,right?

 

Thats so small OC, and that won't take even a day off your notebooks life. New CPU's are very durable, even with big voltages.

 

cpus are durable period. if you keep the fans and heat sinks cleaned

 

yup i cant tell you how many times i crashed ..... o man it was like dropping left and right but it always booted back up

 

oic so i dont have to upgrade the cpu to the qx9300 w/e to play crysis on a smooth framerate,right? i can just buy the stock asus one?

 

Youll be fine GTO with the stock one and you can overclock it always and yes you will be able to play crysis all the way through, without issue, remember theres plenty more games then crysis which are far better, so dont base you buying decision on one game alone .

 

im a crysis fan,thats why ya know.i just have the gateway 7811 fx and can play crysis on high medium on 1280x /w/e resolution with some slowdown on th last level and a lot of enemies level. i just want to get a laptop that can play lets say 1600 x w/e res with high with smooth settings all the way no slowdown. i believe that super asus w90 can do that ,right? ;D

 

and what is the maximum limit to overclock the asus w90 cpu for better crysis performance? 2.3 or 2.7?

 

u know,w/o crashing the laptop of course? ehheehe sorry for triple post.

 

sorry, no laptop is going to do that. not just yet.. the basis for a smooth game play is 60 fps/vsync on/very high... 30 is playable but 60(screen refresh rate) is really considered smooth.(personal opinion)

 

The snow levels will be torture along with the final ship levels as well .The good thing here is you can remain at 1920 and just when things get to crazy and the frames start dropping you can go from DX10 to DX9 if needed, or switch from High shaders to medium shaders, again if needed, so you have many a choice . from what vicious says 2.7 should be stable but every system is different so your mileage may vary .

 

that's what i did on my gateway quad. fighting in the last part of the game. drop it down a bit..lol

 

well my smooth gameplay is 30fps and not dropping below 30 fps. i use dx9 and i just use all high on all options. do you think i wont go below 30fps on the snow and last level if i use those options i just mentioned and my res is 1920 x w/e or 1660 x w/e?

 

yes, it will dip. it did it with desktop cards as well. it's just a seriously graphic intensive level for all.

hummm, haven't played using dx9... but on that last level...it will drop. it did it with desktop cards as well. it's just a seriously graphic level with alot of things going on.

 

but is only the last level only,right?

 

im gonna say...about 80 percent of the time..each computer system is different so no one can know for sure.

 

ok..thanks for the reply..

vicious,johnkiss,quadzilla,ken and the rest..thanks for the replies...

 

Well 2.3 is the max for turbo gear and the q9000 2.75 is what I run with SetFSB. Crysis seems to respond very good to higher clocks showing it is cpu bound with the quad core to some extent. But it takes a lot of mhz to get a few fps.

The higher the better, just use setfsb and test for stability as you go.

You may find a limit at 2.5ghz or you may get past 3ghz every machine is going to be different.

 

setfsb huh... well it wont make my laptop crash or lossen the laptop life,right?

 

it can crash if you go too high,

for life? in theory it could, but in reality no.

if you cut the life from 10years to 8 years what would it matter?

there is no solid proof that overclocking a cpu is good/bad for it. It really should do no harm at all when your not incrasing the voltage, your just telling it to run faster. Intel under rates there stuff on purpose to leave room for refreshes and to charge you more for faster chips.

the only difference from a 2ghz and 3ghz cpu is nothing but the speed they set it at basically. So we just are making that slower cpu run as fast as its cloned brother. Except with a pumped fsb instead of a higher cpu multi.

 

like mine for example it runs stock at 2.53 ghz but with setFSB i can get it up to 3.06 the same speed as the x9100 which is like a 800 dollar upgrade

 

My Opteron 148 was overclocked from 1.4 to 2.8 a 100% overclock and a big upgrade percentage wise thats the best I have done.

Performance wise, my current desktop with a q6600 @ 3.6ghz is a beast. Well I guess not so beastly compared to some new overclocked i7 machines, but it was also only a $180 cpu and a $800 computer build that can get 20,000 in 3dmark06

Overclocking is the money concious mans way of beating the system. Why pay $1000 for a cpu when you can pay $200

 

The main thing when Overclocking is just take it slow. Now myself, i usually just go balls out, wait till something catches fire or starts shooting sparks, then back it off a degree or 2 ,but thats how i roll .

 

Actually I was wondering about it. Does it make any difference if you increase your clocks in setfsb directly to the target or slowly step by step?

 

Once you find the magical sweet spot you can go straight there after you boot, but prior to that, say someone tells you to go to 2.7 ghz, i would start around 2.5 and work my way up if i were the average user and run some stability tests inbtween, just to be sure .Some people may get the exact same machine and there wall for Overlclocking may hit them at 2.5 or less so it really varys from machine to machine.

 

any one knows if the new asus W90vp-A1 will be available in europe and when?

 

Me too but I cant be suggesting that to other people

Generally a high overclock causes a crash at worst so I jump to a known average working speed (in this case for the q9000 2.7ghz) and test it stable, if it works I jump up about 500mhz and try again. When it crashes I back it down about 10%

 

Was just more me making a joke and no one should truly go that route because theres no need to. slow and steady is always the best route for stability .

 

Im not joking

I have always guessed a good start point, not yet have I crashed on my start mark. heck my q6600 on my desktop first overclock I took it right up to 3.6ghz lol, sure enough its been at 3.6ghz since I got it and handled things like h264 encoding for hours on end with all 4 core maxed out.

 

So is the W90vp all problem free now ???

or are there still minor issues ???




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I got some results with QX9300 CPU, still haven't found the sweet spot yet:

 

Well i just ordered my Qx9300 . Was that as stable as you could go mhz wise before it crapped out ?.

 

Ken do me a favor open cpu-z and note the voltage.

Then use turbogear and put it in max overclock mode and see if the voltage goes up.

 

Ya im hoping i have more luck then that because thats not what i would call great by any stretch . I just bought one an hour ago lol so i was hoping for abit more to say the least .

 

Ok I'll do it.

Update:

 

That voltage should hopefully bring you a higher OC and more stability . man i cant wait to get mine ugg. So ken you enabled Setfsb after you enabled Turbo gear and thats the max clocks ? are you just playing it careful atm or is that right before it hardlocks ?.

 

Good so the voltage does go up, if you were cpu limited at 3ghz you can go higher now, I doubt its your FSB or RAM at that overclock level. I am thinking you should get about 3.3ghz easy and up to about 3.5 medium, 3.8 max

So quad you sure that your dual core has no voltage change with turbogear? Thats odd, I guess maybe its for the quad core cpu only.

 

Ya nothing is happening on my end voltage wise be it turbo or not , or its just not showing it in CPU-z which would be strange. His bus speeds remain exact between turbo on and off ?.

 

yes setfsb gets priority so turbogear only increases the voltage, quite handy really

 

So for your Quad and stability you enable turbo gear and to what percent ? then you enable Setfsb ?.

 

Still working on it, haven't found the sweet spot yet.

I enable SetFSB first and then enable TurboGear after.

 

Well in my case I am just as stable with turbo gear off as on because my ram or motherboard have hit the fsb limit.

But I just start setfsb, dial it up to some point and set it.

Open turbogear, and then set it to max overclock mode (15% for the q9000) and let the voltage go up, then from there if I was in a situation where I needed the voltage for a higher overclock I would then go back to setfsb and raise it up higher.

 

Well i would think by knowing that Turbogear increases voltage that it should be turned on first even to the lowest point just to get the volts up and then start crackin away at Setfsb .

 

turbo gear...is yours set at 5 percent as well? (meaning that's as high as it goes)
his voltage is higher....

 

I got a lockup when I tried that the first time, and never tried it again.

 

Theres 2 different bios versions on Asus site under different W90 versions as there is 3 to choose under the driver section . One(0503) has the Q9300 listed as now being enabled for turbo gear options . The other is 0510 and has the Q9000 and a few other processors being enabled for turbo as well . I tried the 0510 one but it said it was bootblocked or some such but have yet to try the 0503, the one that actually says Q9300 . the reason i didnt yet was that machine is the Nvidia card machine and i was not to comfortable of potentially losing all video support(doubtful though).

 

Its possible mr "4ghz" had a cpu with a higher VID value too, turbogear may take that into account.

Also its possibly fake! I mean how exactly did he get 4ghz when setfsb and all other programs I could find did not support the pll yet? and why did he not share any of that information with anybody.

though I just did notice one thing I did not see before, he only has 3gb of ram? so maybe he had to get faster ram to get to that FSB just like I think the ram is my limit currently.

Also Vista Ult was the OS, so he had to install that, it comes with Home Premium, and man he turned off Aero and everything, I dont even bother with that the impact on performance is not very big.

 

we just didn't want to put that out there yet...lmao!
we asked all the same questions you asked. and we tried asking the man himself....after a month..still nothing..no vantage runs either...and he holds the world record for vantage with 3 gtx295's..so why not run vantage.... still waiting on a reply..im sure he may get around to us.....some day.