Asus W90VP-A1
Specs as configured
Main specs:
Q9000 2.0ghz Quad Core CPU (2.3ghz with Turbo Gear)
6GB DDR2 800Mhz RAM
Bluray Optical Drive
Dual 4870 Graphics Cards (4870X2)
Detailed Specs:
See Gentechs Page Here:
http://1toppc.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=W90Vp-A1
Where Purchased:
I got my unit from Gentech (GentechPC.com) this is my 5th laptop from them, I have been a life long customer since my first business transaction with them since they have the best customer service I have ever seen, friendly & helpfull reps (Ken here on the forums), and great prices.
First Impressions:
I am totally wowed by this machine, it is by far the highest quality laptop I have owned. First impressions are usually based on what you see and there is nothing but awesomeness to be seen in this unit. Its the first gaming laptop that had a design that seemed sensible to me. No neon colors, no strobing lights, no giant alient heads or crazy tribal designs on the lid. Just a sleek brushed aluminum finish both inside & out and a good overall shape & curve instead of looking like a big flat brick like other ultra high end laptops.
Past the looks and getting hands on with it, I noticed that its a bit heavier than I expected, but I already got used to it in a matter of days. its built like a tank. No flex, no points of wear, its just solid so being full of high end equipment, its big size, and its solid build its just kind of a given that its going to be heavy.
It comes in a interesting box, its more tall vertical wise than it is wide, it came with a bag to hold it in, and it even has a Razor Copperhead gaming mouse included. I thought that was really neat. The only thing that really caught me by surprise was the power brick. It was much larger and heavy duty than I expected. Its not really all to heavy on its own but the size is going to make it hard to find a bag space for it.
From a first impressions perspective I was very happy, there is no reason not to be.
Pictures:
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Opening the box
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Looks, Scale, and Screen Tests
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Build & Design:
As I had mentioned the build and design both are just incredible. Going into detail though of what makes it so good. First of all the finish used on the W90 is very scratch & finger print resistant. The worst enemy for many notebook users especially those like myself that insist on having it clean and perfect looking.
All of the ports and buttons are in easy to get too and logical locations. The color scheme is perfect, its black on the inside with chrome accent from the touchpad buttons and the grey aluminum on the outside shell. The lid opens wide enough so you can use this on any kind of stand and has a very firm hing. There is no wobble and it takes a bit of muscle to get it open when the unit is closed.
Being full of high end parts like dual hard drives, a quad core cpu, and dual video cards there is a ton of heat to be generated inside but the cooling solution used is top grade. It keeps everything nice and cool and manages to do it quietly. In a silent room you hear nothing more than the soft air movement noise, nothing annoying like fans spinning.
You have a plethora of quick access buttons right infront of you, the left of the keyboard has the media buttons for play/pause/forward/rewind/volume. They all work fine except the volume slider is hard for me to use. I always go too high up or too low down so I just use the keyboard shortcut I am familar with function+f11 or f12 for volume. These keys are made to work with Asus's media player program, but may work with other programs as well. The Asus media software included is VERY similar to Windows Media Center, so much it scary
Above the keyboard are some quick buttons for mute, disable the touchpad, zoom (an asus tool), webcam, turbo gear, and splendid screen mode (another Asus tool) as well as a led indicator of your current screen brightness setting. The power button is nice and big and easy to press, and on the left is a alternate power button to boot into express gate, a tool that lets you do things like skype, music/movie playing, internet and a few other fuctions quicker without booting into windows. It boots into an alternate OS that is based on linux I think. It may come in very handy one day, if your Windows install blows up from some crazy virus, you can still boot into express gate atleast
Usually no matter how good the build & design is on a model I can find a few quirks that I am not happy with. In the W90 this is not the case. I am actually very pleased with the build & design and cant think of any real improvement that could be made.
Screen/Monitor:
Oh what a sweet thing it is, if there was any really good point to getting a bigger laptop its for a bigger screen. Just think about it, no matter how fast or powerful your computer is or how high you can turn up your game settings. The monitor is the single most important thing interfacing a game or movie to you, its what is responsible for letting you see all that hard work the computer is doing.
The W90 screen is just so nice. It has a 1920x1080 resolution so you have lots of room to work with for browsing folders, working in photoshop, video editing and web surfing. Really almost anything your doing the larger screen and resolution is going to pay off in some way.
Getting into the details of the screen, in my benchmarks it tested to a A+ level, the color gradients were the smoothest I have ever seen in a laptop screen. Definitely on par with high end desktop screens. The gradients are so good that the .jpg images you see in the review can not even accuratly represent what you see in real life as there is loss of color & quality. Response time is also faster than the past monitors I have used.
You will find many debates about the change from 16:10 to 16:9 resolution, some will say its bad and some will say its good. For the sake of review we will just take it for what it is. I personally like 16:9 its just more appeasing to the eyes for some reason and its nice when you watch a widescreen movie to make use of the entire screen. The A1 model does have a built in blueray player so it is meant to watch movies on.
I think that this resolution is perfect for this size of screen, if the screen was any smaller I think it would be too much and hard to work with, any less and you would be taking something great away frorm the screen. There is also one more really neat thing about this screen that I have never seen before.
You know when you go to clean your screen with a cloth to get the dust off and while the middle gets clean easy most of the dust just gets pushed to the edge of the screen and caught between the bezel and the screen surface? Well no more! The entire inside lid area of the W90 is 1 solid piece of glass, meaning the screen and bezel are both covered so when you wipe it off there is nowhere for dust to get trapped, its just like cleaning off a window, letting you keep that great screen looking great.
Oh I should mention its a glossy screen or rather the glass over it makes it glossy. I am not the biggest fan of glossy screens but its pretty much the norm these days and I have gotten used to it.
Keyboard & Touchpad:
I expected great things of the W90 for this area because its a big unit Asus had all the space they needed to create a great keyboard & touchpad.
I'll say that for the most part I am happy. The key presses are quick and responsive. Infact I type very fast on this unit and am starting to really like this keyboard but it has a few minor flaws that will only effect a small percentage of people.
That would be excel people (like me) I do a lot of excel at work, its a fun program to mess with and I do a lot of work on it so when I saw in pictures the W90 had a full number keypad that was a major bonus to me, but I did not notice in the pictures that its not a true full keypad. The Zero key is reduced in size. I usually use my thumb for it and now in doing that I hit the embeded right arrow key. Also the keys themselves are a bit smaller than the rest of the keys making it kinda hard to hit them accurately. I suppose over time you can train yourself to use this number pad but I would have gladly sacrificed the gimmicky touch media keys on the left of the keyboard to have a full blown desktop like keyboard on the unit. So this is my first real qualm with the w90.
The touchpad is nice and big and easy to use, the buttons for it are also large and easy to press. No loud click comes out from pressing them just a subtle dim click noise. So good job there, but I seem to have trouble using the scroll bar on the right side of the pad. Maybe because the only time I ever use a touchpad is on my EEE and it has the 2 finger scrolling like Macs have and IMO its far superior to this synaptics type scrolling. So while the touchpad is usable I think you will want a mouse to use on the W90 and would only use the touchpad in a pinch.
So overall the keyboard passes in all the most important points. Its fast and easy to type on, it has no missing key strokes or lag, its not loud and has no flex. I just mention the number pad error as it did effect me and should be pointed out as its hard to notice from pictures that its not perfect.
Speakers:
The W90 is boasting 5 Altec lansing speakers, one of them being a subwoofer. We heard mixed opinions about the quality of them. Now in person I hear them and I say its good! Volume is not a problem this is by far the loudest laptop I have ever heard. My MP3's can be heard across the room at less than half volume. The subwoofer does not create a whole lot of bass but its enough to kill that small speaker syndrome that most laptops suffer from. What is important to know is that it uses emulated surround sound by software, you can greatly change the sound to your tastes by changing some of the settings or even turning it off completely.
So if your a purist for music you may want to just do normal stereo sound and not the emulated surround. For games & movies though in which the unit is primarily targeted the stock speaker setup is really good. I cant say you can expect much more from the unit than what you get especially at this price range. If your an audiophile your going to be using your headphones anyways, and I expect this machine to be a LAN Party gamers dream where you also use headsets in those type of environments.
Heat & Noise:
This is one of the other major areas the W90 sets itself apart from other high end gaming laptops. Often times all these kind of units are plagued with heat issues. Not a single user yet has had anything bad to say about the W90 and its great cooling. It keeps everythign inside nice and cool, it stays cool to the touch so you dont cook your hands while gaming, and it does it quietly. You will not even hear it running unless your not playing some kind of sound on the speakers, and in a silent room all you hear is the soft whoosh noise from air moving, no annoying high speed fan noise.
Idle temps while writing the review and listening to some mp3's put all 4 cores on the cpu at about 40c, and the gpu's were at 55c for the primary and 45c for the 2nd card. Idle temps are not what is most important though. You need to know that when you put a strain on the machine its going to be able to keep things cool.
So I did a torture test on both the cpu & gpu and put them under 100% load to show a worst case situation. In gaming and things your hardly ever going to have the equipment under 100% load, it may spike there once in a while but not stay there for prolonged periods of time.
So the CPU will have all 4 cores pushed to 100% in wprime and held there until I see the temp climb no higher. I first put the cpu into the highest 15% overclock mode and started the really big wprime tests. It slowly climbed from idel to up the 50's and then very slowly managed to get up to 56c on the first 2 cores. I would see it it 57c for a second or two and then drop back to 56c. So 57c was the max.
On these cpu 60c is considered a good temp for overclocking them so it did not even get to a normal temp of 60c meaning it did very well. It took 192 seconds of full load to get to this point.
For the GPU I will use the ATI Tools Artifact tester tool it is an incredibly stressful tool on the gpu placing it at 100% load and a good way to test for stability as it tells you if it finds rendering errors.
I'll first unlock the ATI overdrive and overclock the cards to the highest allowed limit of 600/900 and then run artifact tester until I see the card temps get no higher.
At 2:30 (two minutes thirty seconds) it finally managed to hit 75c for a moment and then drop back down to 74c. So with a 100% load the card only hit 75c on a overclocked state. This is very good when these cards are known to be able to run into the 90c area without problem. Note though that I know from experience that artifact tester only puts 1 card under load in a dual card setup, there is another program I need to find that can load both cards, but I need to find a program to monitor the temps of both cards while I run it, these cards are so new gpu-z does not even have temp data for them. I would guess that adding the 2nd card into the mix at 100% load could bring temps up 10c max so around 85c load in a worst case scenario which is very very good.
The final word for the heat & noise on the W90 is outstanding marks across the board. It handles the heat generated with great precision and keeps it nice and quiet while doing it.
Ports & Features:
Too many to list, so again go look on this page near the bottom if you want the details:
http://1toppc.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=W90Vp-A1
Highlights for you though.
You have both HDMI & VGA video output, it has E-SATA for use of external hard drives, and it has FireWire something I have not seen on too many laptops these days. Looks like a place for an antenna is built in and even an IR port on the top of the lid for use with a remote. Id say it has everything there. Oh not sure what the "standard" is for multi card readers these days but this one is SD/MMC/Ms-Pro so it only takes the smaller kinds of cards not the big ones. So for me with a camera like the D70 that uses CF cards I need a usb adapter, only express card slots were big enough to take a CF card adapter though so I consider this normal.
Going into the features. Well one of the most obvious ones is the blueray player, you have 5 speakers, a big screen, and a blueray player so your all set when it comes to watching HD movies on here.
Another big feature for me is the built in RAID. Since this unit has two hard drives in it, it also has a hardware raid controller. You can use raid 1 or raid 0. Both offering some kind of advantage for certian people. In short raid 1 is going to "mirror" data from one drive to the other. So you "lose" half your storage space but if one hard drive ever fails you do not lose your data, and when you put a new drive in to replace the broken one, all the data is automatically mirrored to the new drive to maintain the data redundancy. This basically means its near impossible to lose your data so important things can stay with you for life instead of randomly one day disappearing when a drive breaks. 320gb drives are in here so 320gb of space is more than most people need, so this option is not so bad.
Raid 0 is the polar opposite of raid 1, intead of mirroring the data on both drives it "splits" the data between drives. So if you were opening a big file (or writing a big file) instead of being limited to the speed of just one drive you can in theory do it twice as fast as both drives will be reading or writing that file. The disadvantage is just the opposite of raid 1 again. If one drive fails you lose all the data on both drives as the remaining good drive will have data that is useless since it is only half pieces of data.
These are only optional, you can keep the standard independent drive configuration as I have done this time around. It comes setup stock as stand alone drives partitioned into 2 partitions of about 150gb each. I used Vistas built in drive management to delete one partition and expand the remaining one so currently I have both drives as just one big partition. I use the C: for the OS & Games/Programs and the D: for all my media and files.
My reasons behind this are simple. If my OS gets corrupted and has to be formatted and re-installed I would have to install all the games again anyways even if they were installed on the D: so I use the space on the C: for them, but all my movies/music/files and things can be tucked away safe on the D: so that my OS has no bearing on them. I am still capable of suffering from drive failure though so I may think about raid 1 at one point down the road, but I atleast have my media on the less used drive so it should in theory protect me a bit better.
There are many other features in the unique software Asus has included the camera screen saver that uses the webcam to create this moving screen saver, the data protection software that lets you lock files and use your finger print or password to open them (encrypted too not just locked) and it even as a logon program that uses your face to log onto the computer so you can just look at the webcam and it knows its you and will log you on. However for some reason I never really make use of most of this stuff so I dont focus on it in my reviews.
Battery:
Battery? There is a battery in here? Oh yeah I remember installing it when I got it out of the box.
Lets see, quad core cpu, giant screen, 5 speakers, dual video cards and a power brick that you have to register as a concield weapon to legally have in your possession. Im thinking that there is no point in worrying about battery life. If you want the W90 you should know ahead of time your going to be at the mercy of an electrical umbilical cord. It draws a lot of power and that little battery is not going to keep this beast alive for a very long time.
Ok maybe I am too harsh, this unit actually did get 1 hour 30 minutes of battery time in Kevins NBR review of the X1 model and thats pretty darn good all considering, but I consider the battery more of a UPS than any real means to power the notebook. Outside of logging on to check e-mail or print a document I would be on mains power. Id imagine if you try to play a game on battery that it would be dead in 20 minutes or less, and probably not play that well due tot power save features holding the system back.
Performance:
So you skipped my whole review just for this section didnt you? I guess thats ok, most people interested in this notebook are interested in its gaming performance so I have a lot of benchmarks done to show what it can do.
Everything here is out of the box stock performance. The only thing to note is if I had the cpu in 2.0ghz standard mode or 2.3ghz overdrive mode and that is noted in each benchmark. Its good to pay attention to the results of 2.0ghz vs 2.3ghz if you see big gains that means the cpu was holding the game back and this is a situation where a dual core cpu with a higher clock speed may have done better.
Games:
Call of Duty 4 - Everything maxed out 1920x1080 resolution with 2x AA setting, played the first real stage in the game, the cargo ship.
Crysis - This was done with the benchmark tool letting it run very high (maxed out) everything with no AA for 3 loops
Dead Space - Maxed out everything 1920x1080 playing most of the first level
Devil May Cry 4 - This was done with the games built in test, All settings maxed out with AA off on one test and 8x AA for the 2nd test. The results are what that tests results with. Know that this test is AI controlled so no two test are exactly the same and so the results can vary to some degree.
Unreal Tournament 3 - All settings completely maxed out 1920x1080, used a quick match on the Deck stage with about 5 bots and played the stage through.
Warcraft 3 The Frozen Throne - All settings maxed out 1440x1050 (there is no 16:9 aspect for this game) did a custom game with maxed computer opponents and played most of a match.
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Understand what all the above numbers mean, minimum is the lowest number in the test max is the highest, and average is where you will normally be. Warcraft 3 shows greatly how numbers can be deciving. The game stays at 60fps the entire time, but due to something loading or some odd even the game may drop to 40fps for a split second so it shows low marks for min fps. While other games may run like 120fps because they have no internal sync engine and this gives it a higher average than a game like UT3 that has a built in 60fps cap. So read into the results and see what they mean.
Without a doubt the quad core is playing every game fine, I think Crysis is the only game that is showing better results in game with the dual core the X1 model has but I still need more verification on that.
Note: This section has more to come, I just posted up what I have now so keep everybody from waiting on the review for little reason, as you can see its maxing out every game easy so more game benchmarks do not have much point but I will have cpu benchmarks, 3dmark, cinebench, ect and should have it done tomorrow night.
Conclusion:
In final words, the W90 is great. I usually upgrade one time a year to a new notebook but the W90 just feels so right that I think this one is going to be staying with me for a while. It looks good, it feels good, it performs good, its sounds good. The price was good too.
I really do not have any bad things to say. I have some hopes for the unit though. I hope that we find a way to upgrade the video card drives to newer ones, game performance should really go up when we do that (esp crysis, the new drivers offer up to a 30% boost in crysis DX10) and I hope that we can break the turbo gear overclock limits too so I can overclock this quad past 2.3ghz. I am very confident we will be able to do both shortly, but for the sake of review I reviewed it as is, so that the normal user knows what to expect from this machine when they open the box with no aditional tweaks or modifications.
The only real question to ask yourself about the W90 is are you ok with carrying it around due to its weight & size. If your ok with that then the rest just falls into place. You could very realisticly buy this laptop instead of a desktop, the performance of this unit is almost on par with my high end desktop and thats just kinda scary when I think about it.
So hope to see a few more of you readers in our W90 owners lounge soon and hope my review was of great use to you even if it was just to pass time as a good read.
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