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    Official Asus G72GX Owners Lounge

    Discussion in 'ASUS Reviews and Owners' Lounges' started by Tim4, Jan 23, 2010.

  1. gvilletitletown

    gvilletitletown Newbie

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    No, still the Asus OEM windows and I don't think I've uninstalled any atk utilities.
     
  2. Naldonnis

    Naldonnis Notebook Enthusiast

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    Intel Core 2 Duo T9600 2.8GHz 6MB L2 Cache Socket P 35W Dual-Core Processor so this one wouldn't be able to into the 05 model of the Best Buy Asus?
     
  3. Tim4

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    Check BIOS, maybe Turbo Gear function is disabled. I wrote about it couple posts ago.
     
  4. Tim4

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    It should work. I know that usres of G51 upgraded their CPU from stock to that one. So, I think that will work fine.
     
  5. panzer06

    panzer06 His Imperial Majesty

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    From what I've seen on this forum and elsewhere the Core 2 Duo versions (Bestbuy etc) of the G72 cannot be upgraded to Quad. Seems like the reason they can be had for so much less than the Quad Core G72.

    Cheers,
     
  6. Cathryes

    Cathryes Notebook Guru

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    Well I guess I belong here since I am a proud new owner of one :) Im in love so far. I was wondering what blotware I should remove. Ive already uninstalled the anti-virus and windows office. What else should I get rid of?
     
  7. gvilletitletown

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    Turbo gear still works, the only thing that isn't working for me is the button at the top right next to the one that disables the touchpad. Anyone else had this problem? If so, how did you resolve it. If you tell me the process that should be running that controls it, I'll double check that it's running. Also Cathy, I'd update your sig to something that's more in line with the thread and not so embrassing :)
     
  8. Tim4

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    Look this thread. It will help. LINK
     
  9. Cathryes

    Cathryes Notebook Guru

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    Thanks that linkedd helped alot! :) I was wondering if you could help me out on one more thing. Ive figuered out what all but one of the buttons do.. Its between the power button mode and video mode(soft, normal etc) it has a circle with a lightning bolt. Also one more then..is there a way to reduce the mouse pad size? my plams keep hittiing it when I type.

    Thanks
     
  10. Tim4

    Tim4 Alchemist

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    Circle with lightning bolt is Turbo Gear button it enables different power plans. Overclocking, Normal and Power saving. Video mode controlled button use Asus Splendid utility you can find it at that guide.
    No, you cant reduce mouse pad size, but if you are using usb mouse you can turn it off. There is such button.It's located near power button.
     
  11. Cathryes

    Cathryes Notebook Guru

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    On mine the one that changes power plans is what looks like a man running. I have 5 buttons starting from left to right:
    1 Video mode(lookes like the asus icon) > 2 ?..when hit or held down nothing happens) (looks like a circle with a lightning) > 3 turbo gear ( looks like a running man with a lightning bolt > 4 turn mouse pad off( looks like the mosue pad > and 5 power
     
  12. gvilletitletown

    gvilletitletown Newbie

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    That's the exact same way that mine is set up but the little running man is now not functioning :( Whenever I get home I'm going to recover it and see if I can just leave everything as is.
     
  13. isoku

    isoku Notebook Enthusiast

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    What are your guys' 3DMark06 scores? I'm getting around 9700 marks with a Q9000 quadcore and gtx 260m overclocked to stock settings (dox 195.62 drivers). Is this normal? Seems kind of low to me.
     
  14. Cathryes

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    From research.. the button seems to be attached to Asus 'ExpressGate' program for this laptop..but it doesnt seem to be installed. From how it reads its really a bios program but not sure. And I am downloading 3dmark6 right noow..will post what my numbers tomrrow
     
  15. Tim4

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    Check your 3D mark running resolution. Default for our laptop is 1280*720.

    To launch Express gate. Turn off your laptop and press express gate button instead power button. It will load express gate.
     
  16. dewdude

    dewdude Notebook Enthusiast

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    I kind of have to agree with another poster. Here's what my buttons do:

    RoG logo = Splendid Video Mode
    Circle with Bolt = ExpressGate when off, nothing when on.
    Running Man = TurboGear setting
    Touchpad = touchpad

    Perhaps these buttons can be reassigned to do something..but this is how they've worked on my laptop from day 1. Did you change anything or are we just getting vastly different behaviors?

    Here's the skinny on the MagicGate stuff. It's stored on 512MB of onboard Flash memory dedicated for this purpose. I believe the BIOS goes through the boot-block procedure then goes in to MagicGate, which seeing as it's customized by Asus for the board, likely has the stuff in it already to set the hardware up (much like the BIOS does), in fact from what I've read...these days the BIOS's role isn't as critical to operation as it used to be since things are able to directly access the hardware. It's still technically an oerating system, just an "instant on" OS.
     
  17. gvilletitletown

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    I ended up just recovering from the factory partition. After reinstalling all of the ATK drivers just to be sure the button still wasn't working and I've only had it a little while so I figured give it a fresh start and I might try the dox drivers because the Nvidia ones gave me 2 BSODs.
     
  18. Cathryes

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    My 3dmark:
    Normal: 10131
    OC 5% :10323
     
  19. Eljoka

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    I suppose that's with a G72Gx, not with your Dell?
     
  20. Cathryes

    Cathryes Notebook Guru

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    Yeah :) sorry forgot to update my sig..fixed now
     
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    I got another BSOD. Here's the info:

    Problem signature:
    Problem Event Name: BlueScreen
    OS Version: 6.1.7600.2.0.0.768.3
    Locale ID: 1033

    Additional information about the problem:
    BCCode: 116
    BCP1: FFFFFA8007A224E0
    BCP2: FFFFF88010153230
    BCP3: 0000000000000000
    BCP4: 0000000000000002
    OS Version: 6_1_7600
    Service Pack: 0_0
    Product: 768_1
     
  22. Denz101

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    Wow that sux man.

    How long have you owned this laptop Are the Heatsinks clear?
    if not blow them out.
    otherwise it Seems like you have a hardware problem somwhere..
    If you are within exchange period Do it ASAP.

    MY G72 has been smooth sailing and have not had more than 4 BSODs due to Extreme overclocking, maybe you have Bad video or Cpu Thermal paste?
    Somthing is wrong there.. :confused:
     
  23. Tim4

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    That code means that you have video driver problem. Just reinsatll your drivers using driver sweeper.That will solve this issue.
     
  24. ren3g7ade

    ren3g7ade Notebook Evangelist

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    That is normal for the Q9000. The score is dependent upon both the CPU and GPU and since the CPU clock is a lower than, say a C2D processor (2.0GHz vs 2.5GHz+), it yields a slightly lower score for C2Q versions.

    I'd say realistically, as long as you are getting over 30-40 fps with high detail @ 720p/1080p/1200p (depending on what resolution you run at), that's what really matters.

    As games progress, I believe multi-core will become more important and hence 3DMark scores for future versions will provide a true indication of the benefits of a quad-core configuration.

    My $0.02 :D
     
  25. Wolfpup

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    Yeah, tons more games than I realized are already running better on 3+ cores. And that's sure not going to go down :D
     
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    Whenever I overclock the CPU using TurboGear, the audio in some of the games I play is out of sync. This results in some character lines being cut off and it's a little annoying in the games that don't have subtitles.

    Is this normal or is there some way to fix it?
     
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    Hi guys, I consider switching my order from a G73 to a G72 (Best buy model) to save me some bucks (and the G73 seems like it has some problems). I already asked this question in the gaming review thread, but since this thread is mode active than the review one, I though i'd get an answer faster here.

    I saw some temps in the mid 80s from the GPU during load. I just want to know if those are the temps with or without the use of a cooler (some argue that cooler gives a advantage of about 10C under load). I just want to make sure the temps would'nt be around 90c without cooler.
     
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    I reinstalled the nVidia drivers, so I'm hoping that'll fix my BSOD problems. I never heard of driver sweeper before. What's that supposed to do? I usually don't trust software that supposedly helps with drivers and registry problems. They often don't do anything, but say they are, or infect your computer with "fun" stuff.

    For example, Auslogic is a defragmentor that's supposed to defrag faster than the one built into Windows. Problem is that it doesn't actually defrag your hard drive. It says it does, of course. Auslogic has even a history of messing up your registry.
     
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    I think I've used that Auslogic thing...I think.

    It's really weird, this review recommended it, but if you actually looked at their performance data, it did WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY worse than Vista's built in defragmentor. They gave it the win because it had visual feeback :roll eyes:
     
  30. Tim4

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    Temps under load are in mid 80C with GPU overclocked and on the cooler. Without cooler you will get 86-89C depending on your ambient temperature and game.

    Driver sweeper is soft that removes driver leftups. I have never heard that it caused problems for anybody. It really works.
     
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    I have been playing CoDMW, CoDWaW, and Assassin's Creed. All of them play great at the highest graphics but I can't figure out one thing. I am using the Dox drivers with gpu overclocked to factory. After playing for a few minutes and the GPU getting to around 90C the game will freeze for like 3secs and then resume. I have my NvMonitor running in the background and when i looked at it it appears that my GPU gets downclocked dramatically and my temps go to around 75C but the games still run fine. Is this normal? I don't know why I am complaining but I am just curoius.
     
  32. ren3g7ade

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    Did you clean out your old drivers and Physx with DriverSweeper before installing Dox drivers? also are you using 195.62 v1.1? If you did not, some old files might be hanging around like the creepy old man in the house on the corner ;)

    Even without the cooler my temps never go over 87C

    I would also recommend investing in a good notebook cooler.
     
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    ren3g7ade Notebook Evangelist

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    Did you try enabling vsync in the game? sometimes without that, the video speed on ahead causing the syncing issues. Give that a whirl and see if it helps.
     
  34. Naldonnis

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    That happened to me as well on Mass Effect 2, I've talked with a few people and the most common thing they are saying is that the over clocking of the cpu is ram instability so your ram is not keeping up with the processor. So don't use the OC settings when you play games that are doing that. 0Just do stock settings and set your GPU to stock settings since it came underclocked. That should fix it because it fixed it for me, runs great now.
     
  35. fdrotary

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    "Did you clean out your old drivers and Physx with DriverSweeper before installing Dox drivers? also are you using 195.62 v1.1? If you did not, some old files might be hanging around like the creepy old man in the house on the corner

    Even without the cooler my temps never go over 87C

    I would also recommend investing in a good notebook cooler."

    I did uninstall my old drivers but i did not run driver sweeper... i will try that. I thought maybe it had something to do with the Powermizer option that i cicked, was wondering if that had some sort of safety on it that downclocks the gpu.

    i do run a cooler, it is a customized cooler with 1.5" blocks screwed into the back so the air can circulate and not just hit directly where the fans are mounted. It drops Idle temps about 5 celsius and game temps around 8 celsius. The cooler cost me $5.00 in Afghanistan and from the reviews i have read works better then any i have seen lol, it's just ugly =p

    now i just have to dl driver sweeper on a incredibly slow connection
     
  36. Tim4

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    Happy that you are running good. About CPU overclocking. You are right when you boost up CPU it can cause ram instability.Desktop MBs have option to change CPU:RAM ratio in BIOS. I don't know if G72 have something like that(I will check it today). GPU overclocking isn't related to problem you described, so you can keep it ,if you want.
     
  37. Naldonnis

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    Well what could the problem be? If I clocked the CPU back down to stock and it doesn't give me the trouble, what is the exact problem? Just rather curious now
     
  38. fdrotary

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    well, after i did driver sweeper it seems to have fixed the issue. i haven't gotten to test extensively but I did get to 93C by what hwmonitor says and it didn't lock up. The only other issue i have is it runs smooth, i don't know my fps or how to find out but it still randomly freezes for about 1/10th of a second every minute or 2...is that normal? I see alot of people talk about Anti Aliasing, what is that? What should I have it set too. Last question is should i be playing at 1920 x 1080 or stick to the setting CoD defaults too?
     
  39. Tim4

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    There is ratio between CPU bus frequency and RAM frequency. For example ratio is 1:2, it means if frequency of FSB is 400MHz(real CPU frequency is equal FSB frequency x multiplier) RAM will be 800MHz. In desktop MB's that ratio can be changed, so when you are overcloking CPU you increase FSB frequency in our case for 15%. It means that RAM frequency will be increased too. That can cause RAM instability and errors. I said that GPU overclocking can't cause this ,because when you are overclocking GPU common problems are artrifacts and overheating(game freezes and stops responding).
     
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    I usually play it @ 1680x1050 with all the video settings on high without any issues. I would turn Anti-Aliasing down to about 2x and run @ a slightly lower resolution just to test things out. I would also try enabling vsync and patching the game up to the latest version (v1.7). You should have no issues with this game in my opinion.
     
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    Hi, from what device the ACPI is from?
    [​IMG]

    It never went that high until last night it seems, I was downloading some games from steam and let it all night.

    I usually turn off the LCD and let the laptop do its thing, why do you think it could cause that high temperatures?
     
  42. ren3g7ade

    ren3g7ade Notebook Evangelist

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    I don't see anything out of the ordinary and your temps look great in that screenshot. ACPI is usually the temperature of the power supply.

     
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    BSOD strikes again. Same error. I've tried everything you guys suggested and it keeps happening.
     
  44. Teraclips

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    I see, thanks. Is just Ive never seen ACPI getting that high though so I worried a bit.
     
  45. ren3g7ade

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    Well that blows. To recap, when the NVIDIA drivers are installed BSOD, when they are uninstalled and/or running in safe-mode, no BSOD, correct?
     
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    I just purchased the BB version yesterday. I moved my HD from my old G50VT BB version and it worked perfectly in the G72. All my programs (games) worked perfectly. A few asked for a re-verification (downloaded games tend to do this to keep you from duping drives into multiple machines) and of course Windows wanted to be validated (worked w/o requiring a phone call). Installed a SATA Blu-ray drive and watched a long movie (The Postman).

    Been playing games on it all evening and it is wonderful. I like the screen much better than my G50VT. The CPU is a fraction slower coming from my upgraded P9500 in the G50VT to the P8700 (same clock double the cache in the P9500) and a couple of games got fewer frames with the higher 1600x900 resolution. The nvidia 260m doesn't seem any faster than the 9800 in the G50VT. Perhaps benchmarks indicate otherwise here and on the web but playing doesn't feel any faster.

    I really wanted the G73 but @ $750 (used) this was a great deal. I moved the 500GB HD from this system and put it in the old G50VT. It booted up without fail, I finished the setup, loaded a bunch of games and shipped it to my son. Seems these systems are very similar. I'm running the latest nvidia mobile drivers (195.62 I believe) and have no problems with freezing so far. I will buy a cooler (I think I want that Antec with the single enormous fan).

    I am primarily a Mac user. This laptop is exclusively for playing games. It looks like I'll enjoy it for a year or so until the G73 is cheaper and I can pass the G72 to my daughter.

    Great system so far.

    Cheers,
     
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    I'm not really sure about safe mode, but I have uninstalled the drivers with Driver Sweeper. Here was my process:

    1. Uninstalled drivers with Driver Sweeper.
    2. Rebooted. It didn't recognize the GPU at boot, so the drivers were all successfully removed.
    3. Re-installed the drivers.
    4. Rebooted.
     
  48. Tim4

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    You should uninstall drivers through Add/Remove Programs after that you should boot in safe mode and run driver sweeper. Reboot again and install new drivers.
     
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    Ok, after extensive testing *ie playing call of duty 4* if i overclock my GPU i still get the same problem of it overheating and downclocking itself, if i keep it at asus clocks I do not have that problem and it gets to 96C. When overclocked it downclocks at 94C, can't figure that out. Also I updated all the patches for CoD and got 1.7, turned my resolution down to the second from the highest something like 1690 x 1050 and i turned AA to 2x. I am still getting the brief freezes in gameplay.

    I do not run the disc when i play I use Daemon. Could that be a issue, I do that so i don't have to carry alot of discs around since I frequently ride chinooks from base to base.

    one other thing, if i design my own notebook cooler and put it where a fan was flush mounted to the GPU ven on the bottom pulling air instead of pushing you thing that would help keep it cooler or you thing it would just pull hot air from the CPU?
     
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    Well i use steam and I don't use the disk either. I get the sudden freezes as well on that game and as well on world of warcraft, hell even on the new game allods. What is causing it to have that? Is it bottle necking?
     
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