C90S w/8600M GT 256MB GDDR3

Wow that's high temperature!

Even my higher-clocked 8700m GT run only at 53-55C degree when idling....

My CPU idles around 50-52C....

 

Thats not that cool considering yours is a 17 inch with better cool and oveall more room for ventilation. Yours only idles 10-12 less than mine.

 

hey Zoid any idea on what your Gpu is running at temp wise? I'm at 83 just typing this....sorry make that 84......gimme a sec it'll probably be 85, ha didn't even finish that sentence before 85

 

Let me download a program and check....I did get a BSOD at first, but haven't since I applied that Microsoft Reliability Patch which deals with PC's with 2gb or more of ram and NVIDIA with Vista. I'll post back, right now still transferring over data etc from External Drive. BTW, I'm using 163.44 driver as I have no intention of OC'ing my GPU. What is a good temp program btw, I can remember what I used to use...NHC? Speedfan? it's been a while.

 

Also, give me an ATI card that's halfway fast for this puppy and I'll be all over it like a cheap suit I've always preferred ATI.

 

Riva tuner has a temp monitor even if you don't OC with it. I just reapplied some TM to the gpu core, the stock paste seemed a bit over applied oozing out and around the gpu.

Oh for those wondering (Swoley) I ran 3Dmark06 with gaming mode stock settings but turbo gear driver and a fan (bottom cover off) since heat has been an issue the score 3850 not too bad. with a OC and still fan I got just shy of 4400, not too bad and with the fan running on high didn't get over 69 degrees. But what happen when I remove the external fan and slap the cover on again...might be right back in trouble land. However, if I can get this heat issue worked out I'll be wicked happy.

I'm actually thinking about a case mod, perhaps a bit of ventilation grilling under the video area.

 

I just put Riva tuner on my son's A8js and squeaked out 3100 3dmark06 standard resolution with a mild overclock. I'll check my gpu temp here in a little while when I'm finished.

 

thanks. do you remember the clocks you had the gpu at? Also, what driver version and version of windows?

 

486 702 for the 1st run and 594 an 725 for the second. Vista x64, driver on disc think it's the 101.17

 

GPU temp typing this is 82c with no OC 486/702 drivers 163.44

 

Wow hot, bit less than mine though, wonder how it'll fare in a gpu intensive event.

I'm not sure if mines stable yet in stock form with no ext fan. I emailed Ken about my temp lock up concerns.

 

Sgt

What I want to do is compare the gddr2 version of the 8600M GT with the gddr3 version. To compare, I want to test the same setup (OS, Driver, GPU speeds, CPU speeds) but with the different cards. The question im trying to answer is whether the gddr3 version is worth the extra money. I think this will be very helpful to c90s owners and potential owners. The test would consist of 3 or more parts:

First, compare the gddr2 at 530 mem 530 core with gddr3 at stock settings. This would pit a stable achievable gddr2 average overclock against a normal gddr3 clock.

Second, compare the gddr2 at 530 mem 530 core with gddr3 at maximum stable overclock. This would pit a stable achievable average overclock against the best stable overclock of the gddr3.

Third, compare the gddr2 at 550 mem 550 core with gddr3 at maximum stable overclock. This test would pit a stable (for me anyway) gddr2 clock against the best stable overclock of the gddr3.

Last, take the clocks of both cards best 3Dmark06 score and test them in real world game benchmarks. This can be achieved using programs from HardwareOC which provides several benchmarking programs for different games.

By doing the test this way, It will give gddr2 owners a real feel of what to expect from the gddr3 by comparing their most stable overclocks to the stock and overclock settings of a gddr3 card. The bottom line is: If the gddr3 with stock or overclocked speeds scores the same or less than a gddr2 at overclocked speeds (530/530 or 550/550) AND does not perform better in games, then it MAY not be worth it. Granted future games may benefit from the gddr3, it still paints a very good picture for comparison between the two cards.

If you want to do the test (any of them) or can think of a better way please let me know.

NOTE: Ive gotten 4500+ with older drivers at 550/550. Later tonight or tommorrow I will run 3Dmark06 again with the 163.71 drivers.

 

Ummm why do I suddenly feel like I'm being ordered about. Cool your jets Swoley, my system in less than 2 days old, let me take some time to work out the kinks then I'll be a bit more free to tinker, not to mention that old thing called "work" in between.

Oh for reference I'm finding a HUGE increase in cooling after placing the c90 on an elevated/gapped surface, looks like the cooling pad might be a must.
Not to mention I did go and "grill out" my GPU area.
Looks like I'll need to buy a new bottom if I ever need to warranty this baby, hah.

 

no im not ordering you. i said let me know if you want to. you dont have to

 

I can say without any tests that for most people the boost won't justify paying $245. Just save up for the next gpu.

 

OK, 3dMark06 normal mode no OC 1280x1024 with STOCK DRIVER=3657

Same with Nv driver 163.44=2203

Yep, back to stock it is! It must be optimized for that card.

EDIT: I take that back for now....haven't spent enough time looking at things yet, but that seems to be what happened.

 

Hi Sgt !

Any idea how to do this case mod ? I once ran mine without the bottom cover, and it DRASTICALLY lowered temps. ( around 10deg. lower i think... This is a very good idea if there was a way to do it properly and easily....

 

Just one question guys, im considering buying a C90, does it support QX6600? ...

 

No it does not.

 

Can you confirm that it was at 1280X1024 not 1024X768? because I got similar result with 1024X768.

 

E6700 at 2.93ghz Turbo Gear
3GB DDR667
Windows XP 32 Bit
8600M GT GDDR2 at 550/1250/550 (Fully tested stable)
Forceware 163.71




E6700 at 2.93ghz Turbo Gear
3GB DDR667
Windows XP 32 Bit
8600M GT GDDR2 at 575/1250/575(See notes)
Forceware 163.71




NOTES:
Sometime in July when I had my first c90s I was able to get 4700 with the same settings (550/??? shader/550) but I dont know what driver I used. I doubt it was one of my hybrid drivers because I dont think i started with those yet. Also, note that I flashed the gpu with the listed clocks. This means that the shader would be higher if overclocked using software. I will go back in later tonight or tommorrow for the final tests and set the shader where it should be. Previously when I overclocked RivaTuner would clock the shader around 1296 when the gpu was at 550/550. Therefore, I will test at 550/1296/550 but wont bother with anything higher. I did NOT test 575/1250/575 for stability and the score should be considered in that manner!

 

Ten 'hut!! I understand, I'm working out kinks too but happen to busy with work right now. When you get a chance, sure would like to see a pic of that grill.

 

Yes I can confirm that was at 1280x1024 for it was only a couple points above my 595 x 725 benchmark at the same res.

@ Zoid I'll post one once I'm finished and it's looks good. The best thing about it is that I think any cooling pad with a center fan or two close center fans should increase cooling greatly. I've noticed a huge increase if I have the notebook on my legs with room under it, not that I do that normally, but 65 degrees is awesome.

What I really want to do if build a new bottom plate with a ultra slim line fan sitting right below the gpu. Trying to get a replacement lower to tech build one.

 

That sounds like something you might be able to sell online! I've put my Lapcool2 back to use (Vantec)...I'll check temps with and without if I can get some work done.

 

You would be surprised how much giving more room underneath it causes lower temps. I held my c90 up off the desk for a few min and idle gpu temp dropped a few degrees.

 

So that was a DDR2 one? @595/900 you would it at least 5.3k!

 

WHOAH! How much are your gpus downclocking when your idle/ doing browsing. My gpu went down to 150/100 and my gpu was at 64 degrees.

 

mines 175/100

 

No as stated mine are gddr2.

 

I meant on a GDDR3 OC one

 

Here's a brief 594x848 had a bit of junk in the background be oh well.

 

Nice work.

 

E6700 at 2.93ghz Turbo Gear
3GB DDR667
Windows XP 32 Bit
8600M GT GDDR2 at 550/1290/550 (Fully tested stable)
Forceware 163.71



E6700 at 2.93ghz Turbo Gear
3GB DDR667
Windows XP 32 Bit
8600M GT GDDR2 at 575/1290/575 (See notes)
Forceware 163.71




NOTES:
Here are the scores with the CORRECTED shader clock. I have two more things to test. First, I want to find the maximum core and mem clock stable. Stability will be based on whether it can run 3dmark06 with each test looped 8 times. Second, I will take that maximum clock and post the XP and VISTA score together.

After that, the only thing left to do is have someone find the maximum stable clock (mem, core, AND shader) for the gddr3 version in XP and VISTA. Then everyone can compare the two versions of the card.

 

Hot damn. Too bad I don't have large enough cajones to overclock like that.

 

Step one to better cooling, more clean up and grill to apply, might enlarge holes a bit and or open up "windows"

 

Yes french windows would make it more appealing. BUt seriosuly nice work doesn't look bad at all.

 

You did a good job. I don't see how that could do anything but help cooling. I can see the ad on Overclockers now, "Sgt Hollywoods replacement C90s Door"

 

Does c90 support e6850? since it doesnt support quad, ill see if i can get a 6850

 

Thanks, I only wish I had started to do this in the shop and not with the limited tools in the apartment, but It'll do. Plus everything will look better with some "bling" grill. Right above my cooling pad, sweet.

 

Step one to better cooling: A cooling pad Its going to help more than any case mods.


I have a very large amount of modders mesh on hand that I use for computer mods that need ventilation if you lived close I could give you some so that you could cover the holes up.

I used plexi on this mod at first but changed it over to mesh in the end for better ventilation (this was my first pc mod like 4 or 5 years ago ^^

 

What is that an old ecs or biostar mobo? Must have liked the Punisher at some time huh?

 

hey sgt !

With those holes, how many deg did ur temp drop for the GPU ? (approximately) tnx.

 

For those wondering, Ncix and DirectCanada added it on their catalagod.
DC has it for 240 and Ncix is $250

It's same price as the US, but the DDR2 is 185US but $210 in canada

 

Here's some results with the cooler under the GPU.

GPU temps didn't go over 85, which IMO is pretty nice to see, although it is a fairly short duration test.





Would probably be better with XP but oh well...


Just ran at 621 x 848 (very close + to 8700M) Nice results. Temp was approximately 86 Max with cooling pad.