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    * Asus N61JQ Owners Lounge *

    Discussion in 'ASUS Reviews and Owners' Lounges' started by GregW, Feb 3, 2010.

  1. Jgoble25

    Jgoble25 Notebook Geek

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    Does anyone else use their N61 for any type of photo editing? I bought the new Paintshop Photo Pro X3 and every time I start to edit a photo I am getting c++ runtime errors and it shuts down. :mad:
     
  2. GregW

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    No one has reported upgrading to blu-ray yet. I don't know if it would be worth it unless you were going to use an external screen.
    We have had reports of wireless card updates. This card seems to work pretty well but it does not support connecting in 5.0 .I plan on upgrading to the 6200 but it only makes sense to me if your router supports 5.0 :D
     
  3. LordDavon

    LordDavon Notebook Evangelist

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    If you want to vent about people who do minimal amounts of research, take very little time out of their day to read other posts and/or just start looking for everyone to do all of their work for them.. I'm all for it. I'm just sayin'. ;-)

    This takes form in demands, unresearched statements, questions that have been answered several times and/or questions that could be answered with very little effort.

    For those people that think this is about you, it isn't. It is not just 1 or 12 posts, a few emails or any one thing that made me feel like venting. It is a combination of andLinux, ASUS forums, Notebook Review forums and several threads contained in each. Mostly andLinux as it can be very frustrating having your own OS. This biggest trigger was an email that I got but, it does happen everywhere.

    I mean, when I came to this thread it was after reading a couple of other large threads -- amazingly I think Allyw123 was in all of them ;-) -- found by doing several searches. I must have read hundreds of posts, multiple reviews and read every document I could find. I did research and tried to find out everything I could. Yes, it took time and effort but, I was more educated for it.

    I feel that this is one of the most hepful threads I have been involved in and most everyone helps other people so you all can understand this frustration.

    For those wondering what straw broke the camels back in this case... I received an email from someone who downloaded andLinux and then emailed me asking how to use Linux. I got another one from someone who flamed me because andLinux doesn't yet work in x64 OSes and DEMANDED that I work on it because they need it.?! I also got one crapping all over the installer and telling me that I need to switch to InnoSetup, which we already use (the code is on our SourceForge page), and that they would help except that THEY don't have time.

    Why do some people look for everyone else to do their work for them? Like their time is so much more important then ours! It is always fine to ask a question about an experience, a specific item someone may have experience with or an opinion but, to ask a repeated question or demand/beg for someone to go too far out of their way?! We do what we do because we like to help. Sometimes it is like we are talen advantage of!

    Ok. I am done venting. Thinking about getting Crysis to the N61. Can't find it in any stores so I am debating doing the download version.
     
  4. GregW

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    Yeah, Maybee I will give Newegg a call tomorrow. I'll let you know what they say.
    I'm just hesitant to return a working laptop. I returned 2 HP DV8T's before ordering this one. Even with ASUS having a good reputation it just seems like Russian roulett waiting to see if you get a good laptop nowadays.
     
  5. GluttonyH

    GluttonyH Newbie

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    Hello, I have a question about the keyboard. I have an older ASUS laptop, G50 series and it has an issue with the keyboard where if I type too quickly it doesn't register all the keys typed. This gets pretty annoying and I was wondering if the N61JQ has a similar or any kind of typing problem. Apparently, ASUS has made quite a few laptops with keyboard problems and there are many "fixes" but it'd be nice if the typing on this model worked perfectly. Thanks much for any and all feedback and sorry if this question was addressed and answered already.
     
  6. Deathwinger

    Deathwinger Notebook Virtuoso

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    Dude, just get a nice steam game, like left 4 dead 2, play, relax and forget about the morons of the world. (in fact, you could probably imagine them being one of the undead as you fill them with bullets :D )
     
  7. GregW

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    Don't bail on us David we need all the expertise we can get in this lounge. :eek:
     
  8. LordDavon

    LordDavon Notebook Evangelist

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    Although it does happen here, it is minimal in this place. This is the one place I feel that people can understand the frustration. :)
     
  9. snwomobilelegend

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    I just wanted to point out that li-pos are different then li-ions. This computer as do many others come with li-ions not li-pos. They need to be charged and discharged differently. If Lipos drop below a certain voltage, they are ruined. They need special chargers to keep them from being ruined. (Unless you know how to charge them.) I use Lipos in my RC Truck. They provide sooooooo much more power than Li-ions.
     
  10. LordDavon

    LordDavon Notebook Evangelist

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    HA! That made me laugh! Good one.

    I actually haven't been playing too many PC games. I have a PS3 (original 60GB unit) that I mostly play on. Now that I have the N61, I have been eyeing PC games. I like WoW and installed Oblivion (always liked that one). I am really interested in a good FPS. I heard that Crysis has some great addons/mods. I have HalfLife 2 on the PS3 (that is a great game). Maybe I will get it for the PC too.
     
  11. doubleatheman

    doubleatheman Notebook Guru

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    You learn something every day! I always thought that li-pos and li-ions were the same thing.... do both LI type batteries behave mostly the same?

    Yeah I used to race rc trucks quite a bit back that was fun (and expensive)
     
  12. GregW

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    Wow, Typing in this search link was an eye opener. http://www.notebookreview.com/searc...NT:666666;GIMP:666666;FORID:11&hl=en&x=9&y=10 I hope they fixed this for the N61, though you think we would of heard something in the Lounge by now.
    It's not going to be a problem for (Hunt & Peck!) me. :eek:
     
  13. Theonee

    Theonee Notebook Enthusiast

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    So I finally got my N61 from newegg. Newegg has nice customer service, except I did not like that it took 3 days to process my order, other than that, they are really pleasure to deal with.
    Anyway my laptop came with Hitachi hard drive and kingston 1333 RAM, very pelased with that.
    I called asus about some confusion regarding warrenty and display. On the e-said LCD but they confirmed it is LED, also newegg website showed two years warrenty and sticker said one, asus said I have to call newegg about that, since it says one year according to serial number.
     
  14. Donald@Paladin44

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    The screen is an LED backlit LCD. LCD and LED are not conflicting technologies.
     
  15. Deathwinger

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    So wait a second, there is keyboard skipping? Now if you were able to type 52 words per minute. Would this be a problem?
     
  16. Theonee

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    Thanks Donald, that is good to know, because it confused the hell out of me.
     
  17. GregW

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    Hey Donald, I bet PowerNotebooks Never advertised a 2 year warranty and then shipped it with a 1 year Like some egghead comanies! :mad:

    And have you heard anything about ASUS keyboard issues like the ones talked about a few posts ago?
     
  18. GregW

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    welcome to the Lounge! :D Good news on the hard drive and RAM. Unfortunatly you are not the first victim here of the bait and switch Flu-egg warranty. :(
     
  19. GluttonyH

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    Hmmm, so yea could someone that can type 90-120 words per minute do a type test to check out the keyboard to see if there are any issues.
     
  20. ryalnos

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    Well, I can type over 100 wpm and I haven't had any problems with key skipping ;).
     
  21. doubleatheman

    doubleatheman Notebook Guru

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    You people are crazy... I'm lucky to hit 40 per min... but that's all the faster my brain seems to go... lol
     
  22. GluttonyH

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    Sweet. Thanks much for letting us all know that the keyboard doesn't skip. It was the last little thing I needed to know before buying.
     
  23. ryalnos

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    Just to make sure, I went to typerA.tk:

    Your score: 538 keys per minute ~ 107 words per minute

    Mistakes: don't(Don't), aCross(Across), know(know,).

    None due to skipped letters!
     
  24. stevedogg

    stevedogg Notebook Evangelist

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    Is that program better than gimp? I am not a serious photo editor, but gimp is really powerful (basically a free Photoshop rival).
     
  25. stevedogg

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    You'll be confused again when OLED displays are mainstream :p. As Donald stated, these "LED" displays only use LEDs for backlighting (white LEDs). The white light is filtered into red, green, and blue, which are then individually and electronically attenuated using liquid crystals. This is why the black on your ASUS doesn't look so black (the crystals are unable to block all of the backlighting). OLED displays found on some phones have pixels composed of individual (organic) LEDs which are each red, green, and blue. There is no filtering involved, and the pixels can be turned off. Such displays have perfect blacks and use less power when darker images are shown on the screen.
     
  26. Jgoble25

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    I don't know about better, but easier for me yeah. I just wish I could use it on here. :(
     
  27. stevedogg

    stevedogg Notebook Evangelist

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    The Visual C++ runtime library is basically an external library (DLL or dynamically linked library) containing code required by your software to run. Since it is external, it's possible that updating the library will fix your problem. It is kind of a long shot but worth a try. It won't do any harm to install the latest versions on your computer. There are basically 4 flavors: 2005 and 2008 versions, each of which can be 32-bit or 64-bit (many programs running on your 64-bit Windows OS are actually 32-bit programs that use 32-bit libraries).

    Install these 4 and try the software again:

    Microsoft Visual C++ 2005 SP1 Redistributable Package (x86)

    Microsoft Visual C++ 2005 SP1 Redistributable Package (x64)

    Microsoft Visual C++ 2008 SP1 Redistributable Package (x86)

    Microsoft Visual C++ 2008 SP1 Redistributable Package (x64)

    Like I said, it is a long shot. Hope it works for you.

    Edit: Even if you install the above libraries, there is still a chance that they may not get used by your application. This can happen in poorly-built apps that copy the runtime libraries to the local application directory. Outdated or incompatible versions may be used instead of the newer ones installed in your Windows winsxs directory. If you suspect this, you can browse through your Paint Shop application directory and delete the files. They have names like msvcr80.dll.
     
  28. LordDavon

    LordDavon Notebook Evangelist

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    Oh, but I do love the OLED screen of my Samsung Moment!
     
  29. Sm0k3d 0uT

    Sm0k3d 0uT Notebook Guru

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    David I have downloaded andLinux and eagerly awiting installing it. I think the idea behind it is great. Not having to have a second partition to run Linux or worrying over a LiveCD is the answer I was looking for.

    And for all those haters you encounter complaining about no 64bit edition, just tell them to load up a Virtual Machine with a 32 bit OS. That's what I will do till a 64bit version is available.
     
  30. LordDavon

    LordDavon Notebook Evangelist

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    Thanks. I can't believe that andLinux just turned 5 years old. It is wild how much work I have done for free. HA!

    I actually sold one of my slower 64bit machines to get the N61 so I can work on porting andlinux to x64. I am going to do this in phases.

    There are 5 major parts of andLinux. The linux.sys driver, WinTap (network communication), the Linux Kernel, the OS (and all of the modules) and the communication portals between Linux and Windows.

    The linux.sys driver allows Linux and Windows to co-exists in Windows. Also, the WinTap driver allows for the Linux system to use networking. I HOPE these can safely be recompiled (as I think they are already 64bit safe) to allow for the 32bit version of andLinux to run on a 64bit OS.

    The trick comes in porting the a 64bit Linux kernel to a 64bit Windows application. Here is about the highest level explaination I can come up with: Linux handles long integers (really big whole numbers) as 8bit where Windows handles them as 4bit. Because of this, when you cast (think of it as converting) a pointer (think of this as something specifying an exact memory location), they can't be cast properly between Linux (8bit) and Windows (4bit) and is unsafe (think of this as CRASH|BSOD|BIG!NO!NO). :) So, CoLinux (a port of the Linux kernel to Windows that andLinux uses) needs a complete rewrite of how it handles memory. As well, x64 Windows is more protected then 32bit Windows so, there is no telling what else we are going to encounter when porting things over.

    This is a pretty big job but, I am not alone. Henry Nestler (the main CoLinux developer) has already made great strides in this work. As well, I have a few very talented C coders at my disposal. My C skills are pretty limited since I have been living in C# and Java for the past few years.

    Anyway, I am installing a 64bit version of Ubuntu on the N61 this weekend so I can start porting things over. I just hope I don't screw up the N61 in the process. I may use the HP TX2 for testing since I am a bit nervous about screwing up the N61. :)
     
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    Hi, I think this might be the best area for this.

    I just purchased this laptop and got it Thursday. I am having Bluetooth Connection issues.

    I have a Microsoft Intellipoint Explorer For Bluetooth and the matching keyboard. I was initially able to pair both devices without use of the provided Bluetooth Dongle. However, while I was playing Crysis this morning, my computer suddenly shut down.

    Now, when I cannot use the Mouse/Keyboard. I tried re-syncing them but once I connect and install them, the connection suddenly disappears. I went back to my old computer and synced both devices to the dongle and reattached it to the computer and it seems to be working ok, but why can't I get the devices to attach to the actual onboard bluetooth?

    Thanks
     
  32. 2MNY

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    It's not the best card out there in terms of sound quality and it will never match a desktop card, but the usb X-fi is probably your best bet at expanding the sound ports for your laptop on the cheap. Quick and easy 5.1 for your laptop with a minimal amount of fiddling. I also have to say I'm really impressed with how well this card works under Win 7. Just plug-and-go, no need to install extra drivers, and all sorts of mix and match options for input and output. I've hooked it up to my xbox so I can play games and listen to music on my pc at the same time through external speakers while using the laptop mic and internal speakers for a skype chat. I'm used to fiddling with electronics for hours to get everything working right so it's nice when everything just works as it should as soon as you plug it in.
     
  33. Xion15

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    Actually they do advertised a 2 year global warranty and 1 year accidental really clear when you first look at the notebook. Way to downgrade a company like Powernotebooks to NewEgg.
     
  34. stevedogg

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    He was ranting about how Newegg initially mislabeled the X1 as having a 2 year warranty and was praising Powernotebooks for having the correct information (1 year warranty for X1, 2 years for A1) :p.
     
  35. Xion15

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    I was wondering anyone else having problems of dust getting literally inside the screen? I only had this notebook for a couple of weeks now and only noticed that when I first cleaned it yesterday. I can tell where they are going into. The dust is getting in from those side things to separate your monitor and keyboard. Also, do you guys think it's covered by the warranty?
     
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    I apologize and misreading that.
     
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    That is very strange. Are you talking about the little rubber bumpers along the perimeter of the screen that keep it from closing completely? Can you take pictures? I can't see any dust inside my screen :confused:
     
  38. Xion15

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    Yeah those little bumpers. Unfortunately i don't a high enough resolution of a camera to take a picture of it. I'm guessing you wouldn't be able to see it. If you look at those bumpers there are little openings, but they are smaller than a pinhole. The dust isn't noticable at all except for dust on the screen not inside of it.
     
  39. stevedogg

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    Searching on notebookreview, dust (and hair, bugs, etc.) can definitely get in there. It looks like you have to disassemble the screen to get at it. This is a different model, but it gives you an idea of how complex it is (near the bottom):

    http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=318551
     
  40. Xion15

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    Yeah i'm just worried about the accumulation overtime. I'm just trying to clean my screen less frequently and not towards those places.
     
  41. stevedogg

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    This has obvious warranty ramifications, but you might try sealing those spots with quick-set epoxy or something (if you're really sure that is where the dust is coming in). Epoxy tends to peel off if you heat it sufficiently (blow dryer or heat gun), so it is only semi-permanent, but obviously it is probably not something you would want to do.
     
  42. Xion15

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    Hopefully it's covered by the warranty. It's not bugging me at all right now, but further down the road hopefully it is. I'm not gonna the epoxy that's a little too much.
     
  43. 2MNY

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    Question: what size is the ODD drive in the N61JQ and is it flush with the case?

    I'm thinking about buying a N61JQ and replacing the DVD drive with a hard drive bay from and need to know what size/connector to buy. As well as anticipate any potential modding in case the drive bay doesn't quite fit the case. http://newmodeus.com/shop/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=2_27&sort=20a&page=1.

    That way I can move the 500gb drive to the optical bay caddy and throw a cheap SSD(I'm thinking OCZ Solid 2. 120gb Indilinx for less than $300 after rebate :) in its spot.
    I know I could buy the n71 which has 2 HDD bays built-in, but I don't like 17in notebooks and the price is a bit high after factoring in the cost of the SSD. I also hardly ever use the disk drive in my notebook now(it's dead in fact) and already have an external dvd burner.
     
  44. fesarod

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    ohh man thanks, i think ive got my X1 by wednesday, i think youtube would be a better way to show the gaming potential, this it´s a great thread and has helped me a lot, but i think its more difficult to read his 140 pages than to see some videos, i know they are hard to compare cause here you got a lot more information than you could show in one video, but at least youtube seems to me like a better way to get more entusiast, and gaming is some or the n61jq's stregths
     
  45. Jgoble25

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    Hey thanks I will try that, and thanks for putting up all the links for me.
     
  46. GregW

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    I'm confused, I can't find any holes on the 3 rubber bumpers. Are they on the bottom or side of the bumpers? Something tells me your leak is coming from another spot. I can't see the dust entering the screen from holes smaller than a pin hole in these bumpers. I'm also confused by your last statement about where the dust is, can you describe it some more.
     
  47. Xion15

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    The bumpers to the side have enough of an opening for something microscopic to get into. If look at the bumpers really closely you will see what i'm talking about. The dust itself is accumulating on the north west/east corners of the laptop.
     
  48. GregW

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    Thank's I will check it out tomorrow in some better lighting. Lets get some other reports from N61 owners! Does anyone else observe this ?
     
  49. Xion15

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    Yeah, im just surprised to be having this small problem this early into it's lifespan only had this laptop for 3 weeks now so yeah. It's no big deal right now, im just worried down the line.
     
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    I have a blu-ray player on mine. The movies definitely look amazing on the laptop itself, but I output it most of the time on the 1080p tv to take advantage of everything blu ray movies have to offer.
     
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