Asus G73JH-B1 Owners Lounge

Thank you much. Did you have any of the issues that seem to plague the JH model? I'm leaning towards the 5870 because everywhere I read it just seems to outperform and has better reviews. The main thing I am worried about is having the GSOD and other issues. I know that there are workarounds and solutions to a lot of them, but I just don't want to have to spend more time fixing the thing than doing what I NEED to (Playing video games till my eyes bleed pixels....and CS5 work for college.) The 5870 is a clear choice in my mind. I just really don't want a brick that I paid 1700 for...

 

I just got my new G73JH-B1, right now im playing starcraft 2, and it's really amazing, i love this computer. Seems to have come with the Bios 211, not sure about the vbios though....
highly recommended

 

well u shouldn't have any problems as long as u update vBIOS.. there is a thread in the forum for that.. hmggh i'm thinking of adding important threads to part of my review.. i'll have a think about it... and with 10.8 drivers u shouldn't have any problems.... just buy from an online reseller like gentech and have them test ur unit and i'd say spend $75 and have ur thermal paste replaced as Asus's one is usually crap and will cause problems later on...

 

When it comes to Jw and Jh... what are all the differences?

JW has USB 3.0 x1, USB 2.0 x3, HDMI 1.4, (according to benchmarks, the 460M outperforms the 5870?)

And they are both for the same price.

So wouldn't the upgraded hardware make for a longer lasting laptop for the upcoming new technologies?

 

no the 460M doesn't outperform the 5870M.. it is inferior for sure to the 5870M.. its just that NVIDIA's drivers are better optimised for DX11 but really no laptop can play a DX11 game and anyways ATI has said that their 11.0 drivers will improve DX11 tesellation drastically allowing better performance than NVIDIA.

 

i just updated the vbios and the ATI driver to 10.8... it was pretty easy, i thought it would be harder... anyway everything running smooth
Nice!

 

I just recieved my JH-B1 today and its awesome! I tried registering online, however it wont load? Anyone else had that problem?

 

Good point Sean.

I'm not sure I'm getting it to be a gaming powerhouse though...

USB 3.0 and HDMI 1.4 strike my eye though.

 

How did you install your drivers ramelot, i cant seem to get 10.8 to install, although the system works so darn good the way it is im not sure i want to change anything.

 

You guys have no idea of how much lucky you are.
I live in Brazil, and I'll have to pay R$5,500 to buy an B1, which gives me an expense of approximately $3,100! Yeah, that's right.

But, I still think B1 really is the best choice for any gamer...

Hope I can learn some real interesting stuff around here... My B1 arrives by friday, or monday. I'll let my first impressions here.

 

lol ur paying the chinese price .. ppl in china pay that much... anyways , i'll be adding some crysis pics in a few days.. barely had this laptop for 1.5 weeks... my review will conclude when i have it for 1-2 weeks more... always like to draw a proper conclusion. I'm currently in the process of making a list of all the important threads u need for the B1...

 

What do you need to do with the B1 once you get it?

 

Where are the instructions on updating? Not much information was given with the Owners Manual.

 

Hey Guys, I'm Umar, and I'm totally new to gaming laptops. I'm totally NOT a techhy, and was quite frustrated trying to get my copy of FFXIV working on my G73.

I got the B1, with the 740 i7? It says 'Final Fantasy XIV has stopped working' every time I click on the button. I've been trying to update my ATI, but I can't, I have the December 2009 version on it. Will getting this new vBios allow me to get the 10.8 version? Please someone help me... I've honestly done so much, and I have quite the headache.

I can play Star Craft 2 fine-- I went so far as to completely uninstall my video drivers... my screen got really messed up-- and I tried to download the 10.6 and then the 10.9... but to no avail. Nothing changed. I had to use the CD they gave me with the laptop to finally get my 1080p screen back. I'm sorry I can't explain in more technical terms....

Will getting the vbios update posted by Gary allow me to get 10.8?

 

yes it will.. now follow the below instructions..

for gary's vBIOS , go to this thread and read and do it


How to Fix Your GSOD Blues

http://forum.notebookreview.com/asus-gaming-notebook-forum/515309-how-fix-your-gsod-blues.html

Than to update your drivers follow this guide..


Updating Drivers on Graphics Card:
http://forum.notebookreview.com/gam...e-graphics-cards-drivers-windows-7-vista.html

Anyways , i'm posting the links for the most important threads needed for this laptop.. they won't be very organised but i'll arrange them tomorrow...better something than nothing.

 

We cannot let this lounge die! Come on PPl!

 

So from this Lounge ASUS G73JH-B1 vs G73JH-A1 looks like this?

G73JH-B1
- Intel i7-740QM (1.73-2.93GHz)
- 8GB DDR3-1333MHz
- 1TB HDD-7200 rpm (Dual 500GB)
- BIOS 211
+ $100.00 more then A1 Model

G73JH-A1
- Intel i7-720QM (1.6-2.8GHz)
- 8GB DDR3-1066MHz
- 1TB HDD-5400 rpm (Dual 500GB)
- BIOS 204
- $100.00 less then B1

So is this right? is this what every one is getting? G73JH-B1 vs G73JH-A1

 

no the A1 has dual 7200rpm drives 500GB ones.. difference between A1 and B1 is i7-740qm processor..

 

Sounds like you really want to convince yourself the 460M is inferior to the 5870. I don't agree with your conclusions. Real world noticeable performance difference between the two is minimal and depends on the game.

Overall, on base clocks, I would consider the 5870 to have the slight advantage. But let's not lie-- it isn't much of a win. Then you should consider the several other angles, overclocking.

The JW runs much cooler, and the 460M (in general) lends itself to overclocking better than the 5870. I disagree that it requires overclocking "heavily" to get on par with the 5870. This cards stock speeds seem underclocked to begin with.

Driver support should go to Nvidia. In terms of performance, the 5870 has had much longer for its drivers to improve the card. I have a general belief of diminishing returns in terms of driver performance increase. So I do believe the 460M will be able to get some better increases from future driver releases than the 5870 will, but that's pure speculation on my part. Something I must consider, though.

Nvidia cards tend to be a little more stable in games with the FPS, whereas Ati can be slightly sporadic in frames-- often dipping lower than Nvidia.

Then there's some speculation I have, such as colors. I am running an ATi mobility right now, and I've always felt that colors weren't as vivid on ATi as Nvidia, but I've never bothered to look it up to confirm. I have read a couple posts that agree with me.

In the end, my conclusion is that the two cards are more equal to each other than anything else. A clear victory? Eh, not in my opinion. I'd recommend people look at the other aspects of the notebook difference between the Jh and Jw and use that to decide, there is a price difference in favor of the JH. This is considered a budget high end gaming laptop, so price is important.

I think I'm going for the JW, but I will never know until I order. I feel the cooler temps are one of the most important aspects in my decision, as well as a more friendly user experience out of the box. In terms of graphics cards, I prefer Nvidia support (but give respect to ATi for their $/performance ratio. They definitely rule there).

To be perfectly honest, if I was really concerned with graphic card performance, I wouldn't get the G73. I'd go with a laptop capable of 5870CF, such as the M17x, but that opens up a whole other bag of problems.

Enjoy your B1!

 

Very nice post Morticae. And you made a lot of very valid points.

I am getting the Jw, but not because of the graphics card.

I like it for the HDMI 1.4, USB 3.0, cooler temps, the tad larger screen size (b1 is 17", Jw is 17.3") and because I do have more of a positive experience with Nvidia cards.

 

the JW and JH screen are the same 17.3 inch screen... we say its 17 inch but really 17.3.... and JH can be overclocked heavily easily.. look at ziaddy.. 900/1200 which is better than a Desktop 5770.

 

I FIRST INTALLED DE VBIOS AND THEN UNISTALLED THE CURRENT CATALYST CONTROL CENTER FROM MY LAPTOP. DOWNLOADED THE 10.8 ONE FROM THE WEB AND INSTALLED

 

sean: It was actually posted that JH had only 17" while JW had 17.3". Guess that was just a typo.

Wouldn't overclocking be a better choice when the cooling is more efficient?

 

still theoratically , the GTX460M would need to OC way beyond thermal limits to reach a heavily OCed 5870... ask moo.. he got one to 1000/1200 i think.. that's just insane..

 

From my observations, the majority of users of the JH in furmark reach a fairly high temperature quickly. Granted, it's within the upper parameters of the card, but certainly not something you can overclock 'heavily' without some cooling modifications. And I wouldn't call such modifications an 'easy' user friendly experience. Unless you don't mind a short lifespan on your components, I guess. A heavily overclocked 5870 in the JH is the exception, not the rule. Again, we can only go off of observations here, but I'd say the majority can only achieve a modest overclock on the 5870 with the JH and feel safe.

The 5870 is a good card and the JH is a good notebook, but I think you are a bit overzealous in your defense of it compared to the 460. My original point was that the two cards are very similar with marginal real world differences and I'm stickin' by it! So an owner of either should not feel they have an inferior product comapred to the other.

 

I doubt that when I get the JW, I'll feel like I made a mistake. Both the JH and JW are amazing notebooks, no matter how you look at it.

 

Really? Because if I OC my g73jh, I don't see a huge difference in temperatures. It gets to the max temp much faster, but it doesn't make a huge difference.

 

Ok, so the jh-b1 and the jw-a1 are the same damn price over at xoticpc.com, and now I'm back to the drawing board as to which one I am going to buy. I am looking at the jw because it comes stock with the 1333 memory vs the 1066 in the jh, the usb 3.0 and stuff doesnt really mean much to me now, but it is nice to have if I NEED it. True, I have always went with Nvidia in the past, but the 5870 seems like a downright beast. On the other side of the coin, lower temps and great overclocking ability on the jw draw me in too. The games I am going to be playing are all the ones like Crysis, Bioshock 1&2, all the best RPG's, and I just dont have much to compare the two cards. Youtube only has a sprinkling of videos for gameplay on the jw, while it has loads for the jh....
I also am wondering if the 76 bucks for the bluray drive is really worth it....I admit i have NEVER seen a bluray movie, and don't think that software developers are in a hurry to put pc games on bluray discs anytime soon. (Could be wrong). So if I nix the bluray, and add the 1333 memory, the price is pretty much the same (10 dollar difference.)
I need help on this one. I really like the Physx support of the Nvidia, as well as the cuda options for development software. (I run all of adobes Master Collection CS5 apps for college).
Could someone post some videos of the jw in action? I'm about to pull the hair out of my head...this is madness!

 

Sorry for the double post, but does anyone know of a cheaper place to get either the jh-b1 or the jw than xotic? Their price right now is about 1691 with free shipping. Plus a college student discount would be AWESOME, but I doubt it's going to happen.
Thanx everyone.

 

i get 25fps on VSync on in crysis with 1920X1080 , All details on high , AAX4... it is a beast... really, the JW get's that only with 2XAA..

 

Nocturnalis, I just got mine through CDW.com for $1674, and I got a "dropship" from the manufacturer for $24.42... throw on the sales tax at $101.90 and the total was $1800.32

The dropship option was especially cool because regular ground shipping would have been more expensive, and would have taken longer! The sales rep told me to expect the delivery in 4-5 business days, but I ordered it Friday and it got here today (Tuesday). Sooo basically I'm impressed as all get out... four days total including Sat/Sun. Hope this info helps.

 

Ei, how's your G73? Is it still running smoothly: no GSODs, bass booster problems, lockups, etc? Crap... after reading through the problems of the G73JH here in the discussions, I am getting paranoid! I don't want to buy a $2000+ notebook with lots of bugs. I hope the same problems will not appear on the latest G73JH. BTW, the model I am planning to purchase is Asus G73JH-TZ185Z from PC-Corner.

 

just update your drivers and you won't have a problem.. however , if i were you , i'd buy from a reseller and not a retailer as the reseller can test your laptop before shipping it to you just in case you have problems.

 

I haven't had any problems with my laptop G73JH-B1 its really great... the only thing i had to do was update vBios and Catalyst Control Center 10.8... never had any problems with bass booster at all or lockups or GSODs or anything else... it runs pretty smoothly and quietly... I highly recommend it

 

Hi. I see. I know a reseller here in my country. Thanks for the advice.

 

I think I'll do exactly what you've done (updating the vBIOS and the ATI driver) when I have mine. Let's hope all goes well with the latest G73s.

 

but make your reseller update ur vBIOS.. they should have it... also make them test it for GSOD at stock drivers+ Keyboard Lagg... just basically ask them to test it.

 

Anybody know if the B1 was a limited run? Seems like some retailers are already sold out...

 

From what I understand the B1 is replacing the A1? So I'm pretty sure they'll have more in stock.

*Off topic*

Not sure if this is even possible to answer, but has anyone noticed if the B1 has newer revision hardware in it compared to the A-series?

 

I just bought one last weekend and received it today. So they are out there... somewhere. I bought mine through jr.com, but must have got the last one in stock since they updated that status shortly after my purchase.

Unfortunately, it did not come with a Windows disc. Instead they created a partition specifically for Windows backup . It doesn't exactly make it easy for me to do a clean install this way. I am considering just buying a new windows cd and starting from scratch. :confused2:

Nevertheless, the laptop itself so far is nice. Once I get rid of the bloatware and unnecessary partitions, I will report back.

 

I've yet to figure out exactly "how" to update my vbios. I can't seem to get a USB Boot disk to work nor does the WinBios program work but so far...so good.

Only had one GSoD and a few freezes.

 

My B1 worked perfectly out of the box and better with updates.

EDIT: I should mention specs are in my profile. I've had this for a couple of weeks now.

 

Follow these instructions precisely:
http://forum.notebookreview.com/asus-gaming-notebook-forum/515309-how-fix-your-gsod-blues.html

 

Hi everyone and thanks for this forum-great place to channel out thoughts bought this great notebook! i am quite new here in the scene. I just heard bout this monster 3 days ago...and here i found this new community which is great, helping out each other and all. actually after going thru ur post, i actually thought of getting 1 for myself actually.

considering im new n sought of a nob in tis notebook. Just wanna post some question to clear my thought before deciding to get tis monster!

1. I went thru a laptop reseller website called Gentech,went thru the price listing, a bit expensive compared to the retailers but considered worth it as they do custom mod and all. I was wondering is thr any retailers which is as similar as Gentech with sort of d same creditability?

2. i saw d upgrade on d gentech website of 8gb1066 to 8gb 1333. is it necessary to updgrade(+175)? if were to upgrade, could u see any notably diff?

3. do u need a thermal paste add-on? Why?

4. Do i need to clean install my laptop? does d bloatware slows down d laptop, in term of windows booting time and application boot? Does gentech do clean install for us?

5.how long does d battery last for this model? the longest running time?

6.What is d windows booting time for tis model wit clean install and wit bloatware?

Is it possible to put a raid 0 or raid 1 config considering is has a dual bay drive? anyone tried? Does it increase d models performance? Or rather more cons than pros?

Hope to hear from u guys...thanks! =)

 

sorry for d 2nd post,

Also there was a ad on xotic saying for tis model tat 'G Series comes alive with cool side bar, speakers and logo LED lights'....is tat true for tis model? or is it just a marketting gimmick?

 

@ Crucifix

Welcome to the forum

Please take the time to read up on the G73 before you ask questions

The information you seek is posted here in the various threads



Alex

 

Hey guys, Ive had my G73jh-B1 for a couple weeks now and I am having problems with my Catalyst Drivers. First I installed the latest drivers on top of my old drivers. then I uninstalled the all drivers using the ATI Catalyst Install Manager. and then proceeded to update. Im still having problems and I know that what must be done, the ATI Catalyst Install Manager cannot do. I want to do a complete, and total uninstall of all ATI programs before I update to the latest drivers. I cannot find a definitive method on how to do this anywhere on the web. Maybe someone can toss me a URL that explains how to do this. Your help is greatly appreciated.

 

Here's what i did man, follow the instructions in this link to update your vBios LINK
After you update your vBios, simply unistall your Catalyst Control Center, and download the new one from the web, the 10.8 version, then install

Thats it, good luck

 

Use the Catalyst uninstaller in the express mode for total uninstall. Restart and when you do start pressing F8 repeatedly and quickly until prompted for boot mode. Boot into safe mode then use this program: Guru3D - Driver Sweeper to clear out any remnants. Now plug in the USB drive, restart when prompted, and proceed with the steps in the GSOD Blues link as normal. When installing Catalyst again, use the client for express total install. That is what finally worked for me.

 

Anyone any idea if there is a 10.10 beta driver or something which fixes the 5870M's PCI Express speed issue?