Asus G51Jx Owners Lounge

@rexrzer727, the website is laptopvideo2go.com

@kslghost, make sure you have really strong front and back lighting. I had this problem once and ended up buying super high wattage light bulbs to get the webcam to work amazing. Image quality is near perfect!

@oneblt, do you think it's safe to try the fan hack on the G51Jx-A1?

 

i think yes this is only software value after restart its gone



indoor temp 26C :-(

 

What software is that you use that can detect the fan speed?

 

you can use everest
http://www.lavalys.com/

 

First of all, I'm sorry if this post turns out to be in the wrong place, I'm kind of lost in these huge forums. But I figured the best people to ask would be the owners of a G51Jx, even though most are about the A1.

I have my eye on a particular laptop, the Asus G51JX-SX310V. Here are some specs:

Display: 15.6" WXGA LED, max 1366x768
CPU: Intel Core i5 450M at 2.4 GHz
Chipset: Intel HM55
Memory: 4 GB PC8500 (Max 4 GB)
GPU: GeForce GTS 360M 1GB DDR5
HDD: 500 GB SATA 7200 rpm
Optical: DVD-/+RW Dual-Layer, BD-ROM

What I'm mainly wondering about is the build quality (since my Acer 6935G died after just 20 months). Secondly I'm wondering if I can really make the most out of that GTS 360 with an i5 450M, along with the unupgradable RAM.

 

you can expect around 9300 points in 3dmark 2006 with default settings which allows you to play anything in 1366x768 with high level of details
difference between core i3 i5 and i7 is small

i3-330M @ 2,66Ghz - 2830

 

If you're buying the laptop for gaming, the i5-450m should serve you fine. It's a very decent processor and should be able to handle any game. Gaming is mostly GPU-dependent, and the processor is rarely the bottleneck.

If you're doing other tasks like video encoding or engineering, you might be better off with a quad core processor.

 

quadcore is better for video editing / encoding / compiling / rendering
for everything else 2core is pretty good choice
PS: if i set 2 on 0x90 fan starts to spin 100% but dunno how to get it back to normal : D

 

I'm using my Asus UL30Vt-X1 right now, so I may not get this 100% but let me give it a try...

LINK to find the Driver @ Asus.com is here:

http://support.asus.com/download/download.aspx?modelname=G51Jx&SLanguage=en-us

(choose OS, hit "Search", and look under "camera" for the Chicony Driver!

First of all, this camera is the Chicony 2.0.2.0 UVC USB WebCam (Sonix260), the drivers of which are on your Asus Drivers & Utility DVD-ROM that came with your machine, and don't tell me you don't have it because everybody gets that disc...just some of us also get the OS Installer DVD ROM also...(early production G51's have the disc, like mine ). So go dig that thing up wherever it is, and your search will be short and quick with respect to the correct driver for your G51's video camera/web cam. :yes:

The driver is listed in my Device Manager as this:

Driver Provider: Sonix
Driver Date: 6/5/2009
Driver Version: 61.5.200.270

Those details should match what you have in your Device Manager after you install the correct driver and patch kit, off the DVD ROM from Asus, and if it's different you have installed the wrong driver! Go back and get it right until Device Manager is exactly like above, then you'll be set 100%!!!

I couldn't figure out which drivers would work at 1st, but then I did the logical thing and attempted to install each and every driver on that disc, and lo and behold when I got to the Chicony 2.0 web cam software/driver package it installed without incident, and all was well! That takes care of your No.1 issue, and that is getting the correct driver package for the camera, and that is IT, period, no others will do, so find it, uninstall everything else that you have attempted to make work on setup first, then install the Chicony 2.0 USB webcam...check in Device Manager as to what is installed presently if you have any doubts, because you need to get rid of the MS driver completely or it won't work correctly! :rolleyes2:

Next, install the Asus Utility called 'Lifeframe' for the camera, for your photo albums, for everything to do with the camera and conferencing, making portfolio shots, etc...install that next and it will sync with the camera instantly when you start it up 1st time, and voila! You now have a camera utility, for both movies and still footage, with multiple resolutions and choices as far as the method you shoot with the camera goes. :wink:

This is invaluable for any uses of the camera, and will work better than any 3rd party application for the video/still camera. TRY IT OUT after you install it (restart 1st of course!), and make certain that the camera is functioning 100%, and there are many choices as far as frame rate, size, VGA or otherwise in that program, and pretty much there you go as to having an application that works with the camera.

I don't know what you were/are using before this, but Lifeframe is an OEM application and you should have it installed already, unless you did a Clean Install, and left it out of the packages you installed with that setup routine.

FYI my web cams just work super-good! I don't know what everybody's problems are with the web cam but my friends always tell me how well it works...just like it works on this UL30VT also, same program, different camera but same program, and it works a treat! No issues at all, just give the camera some *LIGHT* to work with, and all is well. Not sure of the frame rate or FPS with either of my Asus laptops, but my cameras both work 100% purrrfect! :smile:

Both cameras work with Yahoo Messenger, with MS Messenger, and with Skype also on my laptops, which I am using constantly with both of them, so I don't quite know what all the difficulties are all about...perhaps it's that people don't understand the sequence of the installs to get the camera working corectly, that is all I can figure out because I never had any difficulties at all with my Asus cameras/photos/Lifeframe, or any of the applications for the web...they just work 100%!!

Did you Clean Install the OS and applications? Or are you using the OEM setup? Perhaps you still have the Asus "Virtual Camera" going in there if you have the OEM setup, and that *can* screw things up, AFAIK, in fact I never installed it as I recall when I did my Clean Installs on both SSD's for each laptop.

That is about everything I can recall off the top of my head, but no, I never had any difficulties with my camera, either in movie or still functions, or any of the apps that I use it with...they just work purrrfect! :smile:

Good Luck, and I hope that it helps you some...I really gave you no special tricks or treats for the camera, because the OEM software works 100%, and the driver is for the Chicony 2.0 USB camera, end of discussion, that is the ONLY driver you will need to make it all function 100%...

 

Thanks! I ended up just using PC Decrapify to get most of the stuff off I didn't want and that seemed to work well enough...

another question though, is there a good, compatible docking station to use with the G51JX-A1? This is pretty much a desktop replacement for me but I don't want to have to plug in and out sound, keyboard, mouse, display and internet every time. (eventually I am going to buy a 32" 1080p LCD TV that i was gonna hook it up too if that matters)

One more thing, notebook cooler. I was thinking about getting this one
Newegg.com - ZALMAN Notebook Cooler Model ZM-NC2000 Black

I've only had this laptop for a few days, but I love it!

 

What is the deal about the eternal PowerDVD issue? Is there something really special about that program? I mainly use DVD's, and the PowerDVD was a constant popup, so I deleted it. The PowerDVD had no functionality without paying, and Windows Media Player works just fine for DVD. Is the Cyberlink PowerDVD the best BluRay program out there? Of course, I read this three hours after deleting the program...

Thanks for your opinion of BluRay Players. I will face that decision some day..

Thanks!

 

Good for you! This is a great laptop if you get a good one...Asus is unfortunately capable of building a problem-child G51 too, as you could read about in these fine pages...but for those of us with the "good guys" versions we are all set! They are indeed fantastic machines, and I respect mine a bunch since I have used it for everything from compositing, compiling code and writing software, PS3-4 for photos and graphics, Lightroom for photo storage and sorting, viewing BluRay movies on the HD LCD display, traveled to the SF Bay Area on a plane with it, and it worked fantastic in each and every one of those applications!

Asus is sort of an amazing company, and they are finally getting into making notebooks that are better than their "average consumer" brands of the EEEPC and that whole line, to specialty laptops like the G51 and the UL30-series too (both of which I own), which are tops in their respective classes. You truly to get "the best gang for the $$$" with Asus products, as a good friend of mine says who has about 7 or 8 Asus notebooks and desktops.

"I'll buy Apple for ultimate quality, and Asus for bang for the buck computing," he tells me, and he is right because I am right there with him on both of those choices: Apple for quality and cost-no-object computers, and Asus for everything else.

Here's the notebook cooler that I use and not just with my Asus, but with my wife's MacBook Pro 13.3" 2.53Ghz notebook also:

Amazon.com: Logitech Notebook Cooling Pad (N100): Electronics

You'll find it really suits these notebooks, and fits them perfectly also. Only has one moving part, and that's the low-speed high-volume fan that is in the *top* of the unit, since hot air *rises*, it turns out to work fantasticly! I wouldn't own anything else other than perhaps an Antec for slightly higher heat dissipation (we have a couple of those also), but that isn't appropriate for this unit, as the heat only exhausts out of the *left side* of the unit, and it's the only concern as far as hot air goes with the G51 notebooks.

I don't know anything about any 'docking station' for this notebook, and doubt there is one made for it, but you never know...! Check Amazon.com for something appropriate, if it exists they'll have something for it.

I am glad that you love your G51 because they are very studly machine, and macho too for the high end and hard stuff with graphics! Best g raphiX engine that I've ever seen in a laptop, other than the G73's ATI 5870 of course! Hah-Hah! Nothing compares to that one...!

 

rcdavis wrote: "Is the Cyberlink PowerDVD the best BluRay program out there? Of course, I read this three hours after deleting the program...

Thanks for your opinion of BluRay Players. I will face that decision some day..

Thanks!"

You're welcome of course, and you must tell me *how* you get 6 REP Points with just 20 posts, that is astonishing! I must have helped every person in this G51 group at least 25X by now, and nobody ever Reps here it turns out, sadly...I don't mind really, but it's just interesting how people expect to get all the answers and never vote for you, Hah-Hah!

Well, CyberLink sort of has the 'lease on life' with BluRay playback and burning for most applications, that is until you get up into higher echelon DVD making and BluRay disc authoring, and at that point I recommend Roxio Creator, or for truly pro stuff the Sony series, I believe it's called "Vegas", which I have on the desktop PC also...believe it or not. It's a touch hard to master, but the controls are sublime once done, and you won't regret it for BluRay composing.

I recommend CyberLink because they are a "best buy" when it comes to the full-featured players. They will play anything that exists also, bar none, on the BluRay side, including the new 3D stuff, with the 'Ultra' Player anyway.

I got the Cyberlink "Power to Go" and PowerDVD with an LG burner that I bought for my desktop PC that I built last year, an OEM Core i7 920-series CPU-based machine with all EVGA high-end running gear, Corsair PSU HX-1000, etc etc, and I've just always assumed that these were the people to get software from for BluRay media, exclusive of the Roxio stuff that is.

So I dunno, the pick is always the customer's, but their stuff does work well, and I include the latest 'Ultra' player in that statement as I have used it extensively with BluRay movies, and it works fantastic...no stuttering or hesitation and the software has a nice GUI, sort of "Mac-Like" if you will!

You cannot have BluRay without some type of player mechanism, I guess you already know that, so Cyberlink seems to fit the bill, that is all I know! I use the free stuff for everything but BluRay, and it has always worked well with my LG desktop burner, and also with the newer burner here in my laptop...the Sony 5730S Optiarc burner/player.

Good luck, and I am glad that I helped you out, Mr. 6-points by 20 posts!

 

What is the deal about the eternal PowerDVD issue? Is there something really special about that program? I mainly use DVD's, and the PowerDVD was a constant popup, so I deleted it. The PowerDVD had no functionality without paying, and Windows Media Player works just fine for DVD. Is the Cyberlink PowerDVD the best BluRay program out there? Of course, I read this three hours after deleting the program...

Thanks for your opinion of BluRay Players. I will face that decision some day..

Thanks!

 

WOOO thanks oneb1t i'm going to try to push some more PPD out of the beast

edit: GPU dropped from 74 to 68

 

do you find some way how to set it back to normal mode?

 

whats normal mode

i'm getting 4500ppd with 620/1660/2100 at 68c

 

Hey guys, I'm about to do a clean install, but I can't find the Intel Chipset driver on Asus' website.

All they have for Intel is the Rapid Storage Driver, MEI, and TurboBoost driver.

By the way, awesome guide, rexrzer.

Edit: I guess I'll just take it from the driver DVD. Not sure if it's up to date, though.

 

Yes, normal mode would be nice...

EDIT: Not that I'm complaining with a 36oC GPU Idle temp!

 

I just hope edit the fan speed don't cause any long-term problem. Otherwise, it helps my comp CPU stay below 50C, GPU below 70C on idle. Temp on playing BFBC2 is 80C max.

 

About the fan speed.

I had to do a system restore, and it was luck that I had made a restore point, the restore point was after adjusting the fan.

After system restore had done it's thing, the fan speed was full. I switched my laptop off, and when booting it up again, the fan speed was normal.

EDIT: SCRAP THAT!

The fan is on full now... but for a little while it was normal

 

Hi Rexrzer727,
Thanks. Can you add a link where to find this driver?

I'll add it to the first page with a link to your above post nr 6456373.

Regards,
Janvandongen

 

Once again I am confused Every 3Dmark test I've ran (extreme turbo mode with throttling disabled) my cpu score is always 17,500ish but as you've stated (and shown) nfshp253 your cpu score is about 23,000-27,000. Although with my gpu oc settings my gpu score is about 8800 compared to your 5093 in the picture. I guess my question here is how would I go about achieving a higher cpu score? Or can anyone shed some light onto my bewildered mind??

Thanks

 

I really don't know. It's just Extreme Turbo enabled and throttling off. No idea why the diff in GPU scores too. Is it just me or are most people getting 5000-ish for GPU scores or is it supposed to be at like 8000? What are your OC settings?

You know, I didn't even realize the screenshot is of my own laptop. I've since reformatted and haven't tried a new run of 3DMark Vantage. Should be the same scores though.

 

I went a little crazy on the oc but as you can see it was very stable with the help of oneb1t's fan tricks

EDIT: Can't get the image to work for whatever reason but you can right click it and open in another tab to view. This also shed some light onto me as I noticed your 3Dmark settings are for performance when I had mine set on entry. Still no clue why such a huge difference in cpu scores??

EDIT 2:And now I know why my performance was so horrible... driver 197.16 keeps crashing every time I try to oc it even the slightest bit. nfshp253 can i ask you what driver you are using?

 

I have an update to this post and another question... The chipset folder from the Asus driver disc only contains something called "INF Update".
I checked Intel's website, and they make sound like this is NOT the chipset driver.
So I'm stuck on where to find the chipset driver. I couldn't find it on Intel's website either, all they have is the INF updater thing.
Any help would be very much appreciated, so I can finish my clean install. Thanks!

 

@AndyB17, I'm using 197.59. How hot does it get on those settings? During gaming, I mean.

 

Hi friends .
I have G51JX-A1 with 197.16 GPU driver .
But it is very hot now .
It is 105 Centigrade in Dirt 2 with ultra settings and 1920*1080 resolution .
How I can decrease the temp ?
I have a same temp with the 197.16 and 18X.XX .
I think driver not updated corectly .
How I can update driver ?
Thanks .
Good bye .

 

You are finished! You are looking for something that does not exist!

The INF Update *is* the chipset driver, if you can call it that. I just ran my specialty program Driver Magician on this laptop and it lists each and every driver that exists on the laptop. In that list is the INF Update file, which is a tiny little 2.6MB file and that suffices for the chipset driver, if you care to call it that.

The Mobile N5500 mainboard which is our logic/motherboard/chassis for this notebook, which is specifically called:

Motherboard Chipset Intel Ibex Peak-M HM55, Intel Lynnfield

This system does not have a driver for the Ibex Peak-M H55, as it is incorporated into various drivers for IDE/ATA, SATA, AHCI, BT and other functions which branch off the mainboard, such as all the USB, Firewire, etc etc drivers.

If you are looking for the AHCI driver I use the latest Intel Rapid Storage Driver which is 9.6.0.1014.x.x which is available at the Intel web site. This is the support driver for your HD, and specifically I use this driver because it is the latest RAID/SSD specific driver available, the only one available right now, which supports SSDs natively (obviously I use it because of my SSD!).

Other than the above drivers there are none! You are searching for a ghost and you will not find it here. My Driver Magician utility is a pro utility that we use for finding drivers, en masse, for new builds so that we don't have to go searching all over creation for individual drivers, and it does list everything as above, and there is no "chipset specific" driver to be found!

Relax, you are done, just apply the INF patch driver and that is the end of it!

Hope this helps ease your mind...

 

Thanks a lot! I guess I was just confused, because I didn't equate "INF Update" with "Chipset Driver".

I'm not quite done - having one last issue. The turbo boost driver doesn't install for me, it says my computer "doesn't meet the requirements".

I didn't know what to make of this, so I ran a bunch of tests and used a program called Realtemp to monitor the CPU frequency changes. It looks like the computer has no trouble boosting when using one or two cores, but under full load with all four cores, it doesn't boost to 1.73 GHz like it should be, it stays at 1.6.

 

I tried to get that driver to work (clicked the link on the 1st page) but it would not install properly for some reason?? (deleted all old driver software, physx, control panel, etc. restarted and installed 197.59 but no luck) How did you get yours to work nfsp253? Well I can not oc it with 197.16 but at regular clock settings it runs between 60C-75C at 1080p low-medium settings. (Battlefield BC2, Black&White, Fable, etc)

Any help is much appreciated!

 

Oh My Gosh! This is getting to be a lesson in "what apples make apple juice" at this point...Hah-Hah!

The "turbo boost" driver does *not* install on our laptops...this is true and so you have discovered. The components that constitute the "turbo" function, including 'Extreme Turbo' in our laptops are the P4G Control Panel and this little thing here which is available on the Downloads page for the G51JX at Asus.com, under the category 'Others'--believe it or not...

It is sort of difficult to figure out WHY Asus didn't group all of these things together in some coherent fashion so it wouldn't confuse people, but they did not, and it is their tricky listing of the drivers/CP's that is the source of much confusion when it comes to how this laptop actually functions:

1) Version V6.0.0.1179 - Description Intel(R)_Management_Engine_Interface
File Size 6.16 (MBytes) 2009/12/30 update
(INSTALL THIS!)

2) Version V1.0.1.1002 - Description
IntelR Turbo Boost Technology Driver
IntelR Turbo Boost Technology Driver for XP VISTA WIN7
File Size 2.92 (MBytes) 2009/12/30 update
(DOES NOT INSTALL!)

Now about the other contention that the turbo function is supposed to make all of the Cores (4) go to 1.73Ghz is another idea, and I don't know where you picked up this idea but I will try and explain some things right now.

The "Extreme Turbo" function in P4G for this laptop is unique to the G51 and the G73-series laptops which have this special software from Asus to enhance performance...the other laptops with the same processor (Core i7 720QM) that Asus makes do NOT have this function available...it is apparently just for the ROG gaming laptops, and they alone. For example the N71JQ-A1 notebook has the same CPU but does not have the ability to go to Extreme Turbo built into it, as Asus has not given that one the software/hardware to do such a thing.

Now that being said I don't want to get into a tech analysis of how the whole deal works with QPI variation and multipliers and the like, but suffice to say this: 1.7Ghz is all you are going to see from Asus Control Panels!...specifically on my computer I get 1.696Ghz (just *less than 1.7Ghz) when you factor in the Real Temp/CPU-Z assessment engines and how they work, the actual Mhz displayed is not exact, close...but not exact. :confused2:

This computer will never go to 1.73Ghz by punching up "Extreme Turbo" function and activating it with the P4G Control Panel on all 4 Cores, key words there "All 4 Cores." The computer could not possibly handle (cooling-wise anyway) a speed of greater than 1.7Ghz sustained on all 4 Cores, and Asus knows this (*they did design the notebook*), so such speeds will not be available from Asus and the software controls that the user is given.

Let's just touch on the FSB terminology and quickly explain how that functions and what could be accomplished with a variable FSB multiplier being in play, because it's an awfully complex bunch of calculations that enters the picture to increase Mhz in a 4-Core CPU equipped computer...I don't really want to go there for this forum, just want to touch on the concepts so you can see why Asus would not want the computer to be steaming along at, say 2Ghz on all 4 Cores because the notebook would literally have a meltdown! The cooling available with the G51 is just not adequate to sustain anything near a 2Ghz speed on all 4 Cores @ 100% Load, that is simply impossible given the system that the notebook is built upon and the controls, fan speed and other factors that would have to be in place to achieve such a lofty speed are simply not in this package.

To get to 1.73 Ghz is easy to do numerically with this CPU and software/hardware controls. I mean all you have to do is punch up the right FSB (Front Side Bus) multiplier and command ratio and voila! You would think that Asus could "allow" us to dial up such a speed vs 1.7Ghz, which is awfully close to 1.73Ghz, but they've set the limit with this particular setup @ 1.7Ghz on Extreme Turbo (all 4 cores) because given the environmental and other user factors, the heat generated by the CPU and its associated parts and pieces (PSU, heatsink, case, fan speed etc) is simply too extreme to have it higher.

Make no mistake about it this CPU has a theoretical ceiling of 4Ghz! But how could a notebook possibly sustain that Mhz? It can't! End of discussion, totally impossible. A notebook doesn't have 120mm x 25mm cooling fans blasting air over the CPU and the heatsink and everything that is suspect and produces heat, it has a tiny little 20mm single fan (approximately) with a 5000 RPM speed limit that can possibly push... let's say... about 10CFM of air over the hot parts and pieces inside of the notebook to cool it all down...and that is it! The rest of a notebook's cooling factors are convection (heat rising off the surfaces of the parts and pieces) and dissipation, and that is all that we've got to cool down a hot CPU.

It all seems so simple to do, ie to have a 4-Core CPU in a notebook putting out 2-3-4Ghz, whatever speed you can imagine to be fast and conveniently better than everybody's competing computer in the marketplace, but reality is quite different when we take into consideration all the potential user scenarios that are possible. Not everybody needs a 4Ghz 4-Core CPU-equipped notebook nor is it even remotely feasible either, because to have such a notebook would be incredibly expensive, it would have to have very exotic and reliable hardware, software and even then it may or may not work 100% of the time-- and people don't buy notebooks to work "part time", we buy them to be reliable and full featured and convenient. :yes:

I am getting waaay off-topic, so back to square No.1. You can manipulate the FSB and multiplier and command ratio, the VDIMM and VCore that the CPU gets to be virtually anything you want, but to have it work, be reliable, safe, and sane and convenient 100% of the time under any and all user conditions are the ingredients that Asus and any other manufacturer has to work with, and that is why the actual Mhz and performance of laptops in general is very conservative.

Then again no laptop that has yet been made can perform to all these crazy expectations on battery either. No, at best laptops perform with limited capabilities on battery power and it's only on AC power that they are capable of feats like pushing all 4 Cores of a Core i7 720QM CPU under 100% load to higher than 1.7Ghz, and do it reliably without damage to any components. :GEEK:

Back to the post at hand here, there are no extra or other Control Panels or drivers to install that will make the notebook perform to 1.73Ghz on all 4 Cores, sustained, at 100% or any other load for that matter, it's just simply all done by the P4G Control Panel and a couple drivers as above, and that is it! There are no additional items that could make it different save for a program like Set Front Side Bus by Abo-San, something like that could potentially intervene with the OEM and Asus controls and software and hardware to achieve a higher-than-stock output, but at what cost? Burn it up? Maybe so! Anything can happen, and happen quickly, once you start manipulating all of the controls of something beyond its design limits or capabilities.

With my G51JX-A1 I have found that there is very little difference between 1.7Ghz and 1.8Ghz or any other conceivable speed, and the design limits of this notebook are remarkably high even though they seem conservative when you look at the Mhz and the speed it achieves. Heat kills notebooks, plain and simple, and that is what we have to watch out for with the G51 because that 4-Core i7 720QM CPU is quite a small wonder when you get right down to it, but it *does* put out some significant heat at full Load, when all 4 Cores are lit up and Hyper-threading is at work to give us 8 Cores instead of 4 Cores. :wink:

If your notebook isn't putting out 1.7Ghz @ Extreme Turbo setting something is wrong somewhere, but there are only so many things to look for when it comes to figuring out such an issue. It is not designed to put out 1.73Ghz in any case, the top speed from Asus is 1.7Ghz, no more, no less, that is the limit from the maker of this notebook. A program like SetFSB OTOH can be used, to what ends (?) though is the question, to manipulate all of the variables in the performance equations for the CPU, of course it goes without saying, but YMMV doing such things and the results can be quite bad if you make a serious mistake using such a program.

The Real Temp/CPU-Z/Hardware Monitor, any of these utilities will yield a top speed using Extreme Turbo with P4G Control Panel of 1696Mhz (1.7Ghz), no more, no less, that is all she wrote for top speed using all 4 Cores (8 Hyper-threading Cores) of the Core i7 720QM CPU.

 

Thanks for the great information rexrzer! It really cleared things up for me. My computer is running like a dream.

 

Please help .
My notebook is very hot in games .
I update gpu driver but it is hot too about 95 - 100 .
How i can reduce my notebook temp ?
How i can control fan speed ?

 

For the owners with this mouse: Asus Mobkul
Asus ARES: Is This The One Graphics Card To Rule Them All? : ARES, The Greek God Of War
The article is from Tom's Hardware: Hardware News, Tests and Reviews
Did you see the software that allow you customize the mouse's buttons?
That software can be found here
Download Asus G73JH Notebook USB Gaming Mouse Utility 1.00.0000 Driver for Windows 7 / Windows 7 x64 - Softpedia

It is for G73 but it also work with the G51Jx with that mouse.

 

95-100-Celsius? That is indeed too hot for normal uses, games included.

Have you tried using a notebook cooler (under the notebook?)?

As for the fan controller, I don't know if it will help, but some of the guys are using an advanced technique to control the fan speed...read back a couple of pages here and be my guest, see if that helps.

Do you have an unusually hot room you are playing these games in? Turn on the AC? I really don't know where to start, but maybe some of the other guys (Mr. 253...help!) will chime in here.

You haven't given us much to go on though...just saying "its too hot" and saying it gets up to 100-degrees Celsius(?) isn't really saying a lot.

1) What games?
2) Overclocking the CPU?
3) Overclocking the GPU?
4) Room temperature? (ambient)

Etc etc...

A notebook cooler is a really great thing to use however, and will decrease your temps significantly if they are up there in outer space like you say. Have you seen one of these?

Amazon.com: Logitech Notebook Cooling Pad (N100): Electronics

I'm a believer in that particular product, and I mean it WORKS! I wouldn't consider using my Core i7-CPU equipped laptop at max load without the N100 underneath it...try it, you'll like it!

 

Surprised !

This model is available for $1091 USD at JS Electro against $1415 at Xotic PC

I'm seeing anything wrong there ?

 

Hi .
Thanks a lot for your help .
I find something new .
When I use the notebook in high performance with battery it it does not go
up to 80 Celsius .
But when plug it to the power it temp with out anything goes up to 80 Celsius .
My room temp is about 35 Celsius without cooler and it is about 25 Celsius when cooler turned on .
I did not over clock anything and only update my gpu driver to 197.16 .
I play dirt 2 and bad company 2 .
I think if I update it to 257 it can reduce the temp ?
Is the 257 driver good for this notebook ?
I am try to find a good colermaster or logitec coolpad but I am live in Iran and because of Usa and other countries boycott iran I can not buy it from amazon .
But I try to find it in Iran .
Thanks a lot again .
Have a nice day .
Good luck .
And please help me too .

 

Hi friends .
I have another problem with my notebook .
I can not detect my notebook fan speed with HWmonitor or Speed Fan or ... .
How I can detect my notebook fan speed ?
Please help .
Thanks a lot .

 

Everest has an xlnt sensor overview, including fan speed. In fact there isn't anything that Everest won't monitor...it's the one utility you really need to get like right now, as it will help you see what the computer is all about from hardware, software, sensors, speeds, temps, battery condition, etc. It is ACCURATE, most of all, as it uses the computer's built-in sensors not an interpretation of data, as many other utilities do.

The notebook cooler will help you out a LOT, so get something, even if it's not a name brand like Logitech or Cooler Master, as we cannot do anything about you living in Iran, and the trade boycotts etc., that is most unfortunate of course, regrettable, but a fact of life. You can even make your own cooler of sorts, using anything to separate the computer from a hard surface or worse, if you are operating the computer on cloth, a blanket, pillow, etc, that will really mess up the cooling because the G51 draws air IN from underneath on those vents there, and through the keyboard of course.

If you block those vents under the notebook it is like suffocating the cooling mechanisms the notebook has, which are few...thus anything that will place the notebook above/between/higher than things that block the airflow will help cool the thing off a bunch!

I have seen people make coolers out of egg crates, cardboard with holes punched in it, wood or sheet metal, all kinds of things you can use in a pinch when there is nothing else to use. ANYTHING will work if it keeps the notebook off the surface and provides any air circulation at all, virtually anything is better than nothing at all.

Since you live in a hot climate (35-degree room temp is HOT!) the notebook will run a bit warmer than it does here in the USA for example, but there is no reason that you can't use it 100% with the right helpers, especially a notebook cooler of some sort. Mr. 253 lives in Singapore, and you know how hot it is there... He gets by with his notebook playing all of the difficult (on the computer) games, even GTA IV for example, he plays that a lot but this is a tough notebook and it won't kill it to operate at higher temps...it's best at low temps, but the thing is made to be used in ALL climates so don't worry so much about it burning up or anything like that because it won't, it has built-in safeguards to prevent damage, will throttle itself down if it gets too hot, ie above 100-degrees or so.

I hope the above helps you out some, and gives you some insight into the things you need to do as an owner of the G51 to enjoy it more. Those utilities will give you all the data you could possibly need about the notebook, and the rest is up to how you use it.

 

I've been using the 257.21 driver since it was first release, haven't bump into any random crash yet. I play BC2, CS, TF2, and GTA4, it isn't a bad driver if you ask me.

 

What is your GPU clocked at??

 

630 1600 2100

 

That is good to hear--after all this group/forum is a body of experiences rather than just having one, single experience to set the standards for the performance of the G51 laptop...yours is the first post up to now that reports the the 257.21 driver for nVidia mobile GPU's is working just fine with specific games, so thanks for the evidence to the contrary about this particular driver.

I have not changed since 197.16 so I don't have any comments about that driver myself. I was simply going by what Mr. 253 and others had to say about the 257 driver when it 1st came out. I recall Mr. 253 had terrible trouble playing GTA IV and other games with it installed, then went to the 197.59 driver and things were quickly normalized...and working great...he blamed the 257 driver for the problems directly as nothing else was changed in his G51 but the driver when the problems occurred.

Maybe others have had the same experience as you have, maybe not?

Perhaps this is a good time to take a poll with the owners of the G51 discussing the 257 driver, and see what the bottom line is with it...I am indeed curious now that your post has come up with a positive vote for the driver, and it's of course of interest to note that you have a nice overclocking with it in place also, a very good thing to note!

So what do others have to say about the 257 driver, if anyone out there does have positive or negative votes for it?

 

@rexrzer727- After reading about Hino's successful 257.21 driver run through I decided to give it a go. For me it runs fine at the 360m's stock clocked settings (received same 3Dmark test scores as the 197.16 driver at stock settings) but once again (for what ever reason) after trying to oc it with EVGA precision, it won't allow me to oc. (using 600/1600/2100 or less on every failed attempt) Maybe it's something with my laptop as I do not understand why it always crashes.

 

my G51Jx and many G60Jx have 2core procesor with INTEL HD graphic card on it
also have HM55 chipset which support graphic switching

so my question is how to enable second graphic card in bios?
is it possible when i try to cross bios with N61Jv?

 

The best is to test them out yourself, if you like it, keep it, if you don't rollback to the older driver, nothing to lose really, just maybe an hour or two of your time testing out the driver.

some example in game screen shot.

BC2 everything setting medium except for texture at high
Imageshack - bfbc2game20100709162338.jpg

TF2 everything at high
Imageshack - hl220100709213244901.jpg

 

Your post mirrors Mr. 253's posts about the v.257 nVidia driver, so I doubt that it's something "unique" about your laptop that causes the issue...he said just about the same things you said about it. So far, with any overclocking, the only user with a successful experience is Hino's laptop setup, but there may be others lurking out there who are also overclocking with that driver...who knows?

I don't write driver code, per se, but I do some software scripting with a friend on the Mac side of the PC world, and when testing for bugs on our program it is interesting to note that some people with identical computers have unique experiences with the same application, so none of this surprises me. My partner calls this phenomenon "the same, different experience" (tongue in cheek), so I've seen this before with applications, and it follows that driver use is unique with different, but model-wise similar computers also.

Mr. oneb1t, always the experimenter! I honestly wouldn't try such a thing if I were you, as the BIOS for one computer is never compatible with another's. You will brick the computer for sure if you attempt to cross-flash BIOS from one model to another... :cry:

I have the Asus UL30VT-X1 also, which has "switchable graphiX" engines, and in that computer there are both hardware and software enabling devices which allow this switching to take place. There is a switch (physical) on my keyboard that allows manual switching, and there is software which can accomplish the same thing in the Energy Saver preferences with the P4G CP in UL30VT's, so the user can opt to passively or actively switch engines from the nVidia discrete card to the Intel integrated graphiX. :GEEK:

When Asus designed the G51JX computers there is no provision for graphiX switching, and there's no physical integrated graphiX on the motherboard either. So I don't believe there's any hope of such a thing being reality with this computer, sorry to report, BIOS changing or no BIOS switching, itself an impossibility.

MacBook Pro's also have both types of graphic switching, at least the higher up models do (the 13.3" MBPro does not), and Apple uses strictly software to do this switching, no physical switches on the computers themselves. First came the horse, then the cart though, you know? There has to be a mechanism there to BE switched, and our G51's do *not* have dual graphiX engines...just the nVidia GTS-360M, that is all she wrote. :yes:

These are remarkable, powerful computers, with all kinds of nice things that makes them tick and work well, but Asus had no intentions or pretensions about "energy conservation" or "battery miser" capabilities when they designed the ROG machines, either this one or the G73 models. I think I am stating the obvious when I write those words.

The G51 is designed with one thing, and one thing only in mind, and that is to make the best gaming/multimedia laptop computer, with these key components for the job, namely the Intel Core i7 720QM CPU, the nVidia GTS-360M 16-lane PCI-Express video card, and the beautiful full HD 1920x1080 pixels LED/LCD display, and sell it at a reasonable price that virtually anybody can afford.

That's what we've got, not a machine that can skimp on battery and give us 8 hours run time or switch graphiX engines to conserve power and run time, no sir none of that! At best the computer barely functions on battery, you know? I mean who here actually *uses* their G51JX on battery at all save for an emergency situation? Even my 9-cell battery only adds about 40 minutes @ 100% Load vs the run time with the 6-Cell battery, so the whole idea about this computer running on battery (at all) or being a battery miser is ludicrous! It's just not in the cards for this baby, whose mission is quite different than my UL30VT-X1's or an EEEPC of some sort. :wink:

Enjoy the G51JX for what it is is my recommendation, and don't bother trying to make it into something it's not.

 

Ty for that explanation! It's really bothersome tho knowing there can be more oomph pushed out of my 360m. I would still like to try to install the 197.59 driver but I was incapable of doing so last time. (Used the link on the 1st page to download) Could you possibly point me in the right direction with a little help?

Any help is very much appreciated as this is the only thing that's been bothering me!

Thanks

 

So I purchased a 9-cell battery for my G51, but I think it may be a fake. Is there anyone out there who has the 9-cell battery and knows it's genuine? On the lower-right side of the label, it says "ASUSTak Cpomputer" compared to the battery that shipped with my G51, which says "ASUSTek Computer." Is it an honest typo or sloppy counterfeit? I've attached a picture of my 9-cell battery so hopefully someone can compare theirs with mine.

Also, I noticed that ASUS's own estore (estore.asus.com) doesn't even have the 9-cell battery listed anymore.