*** ASUS ROG Zephyrus S GX701GX-XS76 Owner's Lounge ***

Yeah i dont really need a hdd anymore aswell, but a second m.2 slot for a cheap SSD with big capacity is great.
The fact that the gx701 has 2 m.2 slots really make it a valid option for me.
Though this laptop is very thin and light, I would use it as a desktop replacement (sure, some compromises have to be made, but i am okay with that), and thats why just 1 m.2 slot is not an option. So its great that asus managed to get in a second m.2 slot, I would just like to see how the disassembly and upgrading works for the gx701.

 

Having used it for a few more hours now, it's great, but a bit loud. Speakers are actually quite nice quality for a device this thin, but not really useful for immersive gaming as the fans are really loud. If immersive gaming is your thing a headset is required. That, and using it on top of a laptop cooler isnti going to work without a special palmrest.

Other than that the thing has been bliss.

 

have you had a look at the PCH-temps in hwinfo by chance? on the 15inch version, they can get quite high. i noticed after playing resident evil 2 for a while that the pch-temp can get up to 88 degrees at times.

just wondering how this behaves on the 17 inch one

 

Sorry, I don't have many proper temperature benchmarks, as I was eager to just start gaming on it when I was done testing the basics. And I'll not be available for the next two days so I can't properly test it for a little bit either.

All I know right now is that when gaming in Anthem / For Honor / Final Fantasy 15 with -100mV CPU, stock GPU, Balanced Mode, I stayed at roughly 72~74ºC on the GPU in MSI Afterburner. But I could've been throttled without knowing, at the very least I didn't notice any difference in game performance.

I do need to pick up a sleeve for this thing, it's only slightly bigger than the 15.6 inch I've had before but it doesn't fit in the 'pseudo-laptop' pocket in my backpack. Next thing up will probably be an external and internal 2TB SSD. But I'm a bit anxious about unscrewing the chassis of this thing due to that screen hinge opening mechanism.

 

What are your cpu temps and clocks with undervolting?

 

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OK guys, my turn.
I got this laptop all most two weeks. And this is my conclusion.
I upgrade my ssd to 970 pro 1tb and 40 gb ram (samsung 32gb 2666 + 8gb on board)
With no change to CPU and GPU, my score in Time spy Ex is 3597 and port royal 4554.
When run games, it get pretty hot, BF 5/AC Odyssey cpu is at 3.6GHZ 90 degree and gpu at 1.5-1.6GHZ 75-80 degree.
When run less intensive game, like overwatch/apex cpu can stay at 3.8GHZ 80-85 degree and gpu is at 1.5-1.6GHZ at 70-75 degree.
It does get some time really loud, but it's still fine for me consider this laptop is very thin.
In general, I love this laptop.
Oh, and from my knowledge GX701 only has one m.2 slot. no 2.5
And if you guys have any question you can at me. If I know, I will reply ASAP.

 

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1) I personally recommend you upgrade ssd. Just due to there is only m.2 slot, therefore if the ssd died, there is no going back. I just want a ssd that can last longer
2) I have not undervolte. Because I am happy with these numbers.
3) Yes I have repasted, the number I posted early is the number after repasted.

P.S. I ordered this system on HIDevolution, I asked them to do the repaste and upgrade for me. I did not do that personally

 

@ piteris2
Guys, temp correction. I made a mistake earlier. I have fixed it just now

 

what was the mistake earlier? are you talking about the temp for your CPU reaching up to 90C?

 

It was about GPU temp. It was 5 degree higher than actual temp.

 

the gx701 has outstanding cooling if you asked me, i repasted with new thermal pads and conductonaut and i.e. timespy, with an overlock of the gpu of +100 / +50 and an undervolt and cores set to 4ghz on cpu i get 69 degrees on gpu max and 78 degrees on cpu max.
even without the repaste the temps were pretty acceptable, 90 degrees mentioned above are quite high, is this stock with no undervolt?

 

The temps above is stock setting with repaste from Hidevolution. It's only some titles give me 90 on CPU, when i run AIDA64 only stress FPU i got 3.1GHZ and 80 degrees.
If I play overwatch, the highest temp i see is only 85 and it will drop to 80 very very quick once fans start running, and cpu core clock stay at 3.8ghz at all time.

 

i will check aida stresstest later on and let you know what i get.
bit you definately should undervolt man!
will get back to you in a bit


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yeah i do, i'll let you know later on as well, still at work, will be home in a bit


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so if i let aida stesstest run for 15 minutes i get 73 Degrees max, cpu stays at 3.9ghz constantly. fans don't even ramp up a lot, using "Turbo" fan-mode but barely Hearing them.

 

it really seems undervolt help a lot lol.

 

for 3.8ghz i have it set at:
core: -160.2
Cache: -65.4
System Agent: -20.5
Intel gpu & igpu unslice: -49.8

for 3.9 i use:
Core: -155.3
Cache: -50.8
rest same

i just started playing around with it, so those Settings aren't really smoothened out yet, but they work stable for me to start maxing them out

 

no wonder you have such good temp. -155 on core man!

 

Hi,

According to the asus website
https://www.asus.com/us/Laptops/ROG-ZEPHYRUS-S-GX701/Tech-Specs/

There are 3 models available with :
-RTX 2080 Max-Q
-RTX 2070
-RTX 2060

Can someone confirm that the RTX 2070 and 2060 are non Max-Q versions or is this a website error ?
None of the websites I visited say the 2070 is a max-q one btw.


Thanks

 

yeah 2070 and 2060 are NON max-q's =)

 

Thanks !

Being very interested by this laptop, the performance difference between the 2070 and the 2080 max-q versions is not worth the significant extra money, right ?

 

out of my own experience, it's almost a draw, but someone correct me if needed

 

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i used optimus mode so far. i had good results back in the days on my xmg when undervolting the system agent. since then i do it this way gpu intel gpu and igpu unslice i took from the first zephyrus model, where it seemed that everyone undervolted that as well

oh and yeah, i limit my cores to whatever i need. i.e. when playing black ops i limit it to 3.8 since i don't notice any difference to 3.9 except more heat etc.

 

No sorry if I wasn't clear, i really meant to compare the 2070 max-P to the 2080 max-Q as these are the cards options in this model .

I contacted Asus and they confirmed me that the 2070 is a max-P version with a 100w TDP.
That's why I try to compare the performance/price of the two, for an around 5% game performance difference you have to pay 500$ more where I live. (2500$ for 2070 vs 3000+ for the 2080maxQ)

From what I see the 2070 is a better option, but maybe I missed something.

 

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You still use the same settings? Just got this laptop thats why im asking. Thinking of undervolting mine.

 

I also just got this laptop and would be quite interested to find out the same, it arrives tomorrow. Thanks

 

"sadly" yeah, i still use the same settings. "sadly" because, since temps are so good i stopped optimizing and just played games xD will pick up optimizing soon again though ^^


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That is brilliant. Can't wait to get mine.

 

jusst make sure to repaste it and get rid of that thermalpaste-desaster on the vram etc. with high quality thermal pads. 0.5mm thickness is used for every component that was covered with paste before (just take a pic prior to cleaning the mess off)


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Truer words have not been spoken!

Go to the amazon page for the Asus GM501GS-XS74 and see what I mean. Asus's quality control is virtually nonexistent.

 

So, I took it to my uncle to show it to him, and took it back home. Turned the laptop on and heard this weird buzzing noise.
Turns out the CPU fan (The one on the right side, closest to the power button) has come loose or something, it's creating a buzzing noise non stop. Rotating the laptop while it's on creates weird friction noises or rattling (like it's colliding with something), and increasing the RPM / lowering it just changes the pitch of the buzzing noise. It's quite loud and irritating, and it's a massive flaw of the device so far that was otherwise perfect.

https://vocaroo.com/i/s0bzlqyrKbPK
First 6-7 seconds is at idle, then a crossfade to max RPM.
I've noticed that in the recording at max RPM the noise is not as audible, but trust me, it is.

I'll have to open it up but I don't have the right screwdriver here at the moment, so I'll have to order a set online and open it up tomorrow to see what's wrong.

EDIT: I did some pressure tests and tapped the chassis at the fan position and the sound and grinding became tremendously worse, at this point I'm 100% sure it's a loose fan. I'm always paranoid about damage in these kinds of cases but I'm sure it'll be fine. Will check within 24 hours why it's doing it and why it loosened up.

 

Here's what you'll need:

(a). Torx bits T4.
(b). Standard screw driver bit size 2.0.

This is the set I used when opening up the GM501GS XS74 for the fan replacement: https://www.amazon.com/ORIA-Screwdriver-Professional-Precision-Smartphone/dp/B01E16J6RQ

 

Thanks for the advice, I'd already ordered two sets just for general usage. (I usually borrowed someone else's set whenever I happened to need some). I did notice the Torx and saw someone else's tutorial claiming that there were Torx T5 instead of T4. But the set covers everything so I shouldn't have any trouble opening it anyway.

That said: If the fan is really borked and I need to replace it, do you know where I can get a GX701GX replacement fan? (Europe) I haven't seen one specifically for the GX701GX online. It might be the same as one of the other laptops, but given that they labeled it the 'thinnest and most powerful' laptop, I wouldn't be surprised if dimensions are slightly off compared to some other models. Some of the part sellers only have power adapters and a power switch or something in stock at the moment.

I guess I'll try to get one through support first, but their website was a bit wonky.

 

I was able to grab my replacements from an ebay listing.
Might want to wait a while until these parts show up.
I'll also follow up with the reseller I got mine from on the same issue.

 

when you open up the thing send me a pic of the fan. i don't remember anymore how they look like since it's a while since i opened it up. i have two fans from the 15 inch model of the new zephyrus series laying around which i don't need (the fans are from a new device where the motherboard had a defect from factory). if they are the same fans you can have it, just pay the shipping

but i'm not sure if the 17 inch has the same left fan with that heatsink attached, i really don't remember anymore..

 

It looks similar but slightly different? Heres a few pics. https://imgur.com/a/oaQzUuc

I'm half certain that i have a faulty bearing but the fan itself also seems wonky. When I bend the frame towards the fan (making it more likely to touch the blades) it actually reduces the buzzing noise.

IllI see if I can bend it into shape and put it back in, if it acts up again IllI send it to the shop I ordered it from for maintenance.

EDIT: I used some Ballistol on the inside of the fan and pushed and bent some of the frame. It's a lot quieter than it was at first, but it's not completely fixed yet.

In addition, in my impatience I ****ed up and got the powered board to fry the ribbon cable connecting the touchpad to the motherboard, so now I have to send it in either way unless I get a new ribbon cable too.

 

ah yeah, they aren't the same -.- thanks for the pics!

ah ****... **** like this happened to me before as well, i know the pain... -.-

the buzzing fan noise is a thing on those i guess, a friend of mine had the same issue yesterday. strangely it suddenly went away again after like 10 min..

this is how to touchpad ribboncable looks like on the 15inch, i can't see how it's bent on the 17 inch (the photo is cut), check it, if it looks the same - i don't need it ;-)

 

Haha, thanks for the offer. I think it's the same one, but I'm gonna send in my laptop for RMA anyway so ASUS'll replace it for me too. No need to send it.

Did your friend have that issue with the CPU fan or GPU fan? As mine was purely the CPU fan. (GPU was perfect) When I first heard any noise I could stop it by moving my laptop around a bit. (I used it on a laptop cooler that has 4 raised corners for the laptop to rest on) My first guess was that this caused too much localized pressure on that "flap" on the bottom that opens up and messed something up. (But after seeing internals, I think that's highly unlikely)

When it randomly got really bad the noise didn't go away at all and I ran it for over a day, unless I put the fan upside down. Rotating it also made it significantly worse. I'm gonna guess there's some mechanical imperfection in the motor that allowed the fan to create this grinding / buzzing noise, as lubricating softened but didnt fix it completely.

Here's to hoping on a swift and successful RMA.

 

I’m perplexed about the single RAM slot. Pardon if that has already been discussed (I skimmed the thread but might have overlooked it). What sort of memory configuration is that? Seems like it would make dual channel behavior difficult with anything other than 16GB.

I’m also curious if there is any hope or benefit of RAID 0 with the m.2 setup they have.

 

It's asynchronous dual channel if you put a bigger stick in there. (So 8 + 16 is still dual channel) The main problem is finding bigger sticks, 24gb single stick is kind of rare over here.

In terms of performance, think of it as dual channel 'lite'

 

For ram. there is on-board 8GB 2666MHZ build in, and only one ram slot is available, you can have 8GB 16GB or 32GB(if you can buy one) plug in that dimm slot to run dual channel.
I am running with 32GB Samsung 2666MHZ ram + 8GB on board and no problem with my config.
There is only one M.2 slot and no 2.5 slot. so there will be no raid support.
Hope that address your confusion.

 

Thanks, both of you — that helps!

They both seem like eccentricities that this 17” laptop inherited from its smaller brother(s). I love the form factor and build quality, though, and my observed GPU clock on the one I tested recently was much higher than published boost clocks. Strong performance for a Max Q design.

 

For 2080mq in GX701 is 100W TDP, but in MSI is only 80W Alienware is 90W.

 

Ah - that makes sense; the specs I read only covered 80W or 90W versions. I’m happy to learn that there was a third tier (I wonder if there will be more). Can’t wait for a TDP-edited BIOS