ASUS ROG Zephyrus GX501 Owner's Lounge

Yeah, it's odd. My GPU temp hasn't changed, though. My CPU temp is what dropped. Not sure why having an external display plugged in would require more processing power.

 

These are the temps before undervolt and repaste, and after. Using Cinebench.
Current idle are at about 40C-45C (pretty hot here in Fontana, CA).

Stock



Re-Paste (Grizzly Kryonaut) and Undervolt by 0.145

 

Be sure to stress test that undervolt. I got down to -160 mV without crashing immediately, but after stress testing, I had to up it to -125 mV before it stopped crashing during intense games.

 

The last undervolt crashes usually happen at idle, as the CPU downclocks as low as it can it will start to shave off voltage, and can BSOD if the undervolt is too low. I usually add +5mV to the best undervolt at load and that cures it. You might have a bit more range past -125mV, +- 1mV at a time testing is a thing, the final number doesn't need to be a divisible by 5 value.

 

Yup, I was at 0.150 and crashed at ROGRealBench stress test.
So I lowered to 0.145 and seems stable enough.

 

As I wrote earlier I have already repasted. Thanks for the additional replys.

Unfortunately I have disconnected the LED flat cable at the bottom. So my left buttom light isn't working anymore. Don't know when it got disconnected while diasassembling the laptop. Anyone knows where this cable need to be pluged in again? And do I need to remove the HS again?

 

Will IXTU work with ROG Gaming Center?
My temps are great at around 38-40 idle and max around 70s. However, the fans are spinning and loud.

 

MSI's DGC works after a fashion, as long as you don't change CPU values in DGC after increasing multipliers in XTU, they will both co-exist.

So I set 42x cores in DGC (maximum it allowed) and 45x in XTU, and when DGC dropped the maximum to 41x that still worked with 45x in XTU.

You'll have to experiment around with it all to see what works.

In general I recommend uninstalling the fancy control center software and installing XTU, MSI Afterburner + RTSS, and some fan control software if any is updated enough for your newly released laptop.

 

So I guess ROG Gaming Center does not have fan control.
Anyone recommend a fan control software that is compatible with the GX501?
The fans are pretty annoying.

 

You have to be careful, it takes some tweaking and you'll do good to find someone that's already found a working profile in the downloaded set, or set up a profile for the laptop:

HOW CAN I CONTROL FAN SPEED IN ASUS ROG ZEPHYRUS GX501
https://rog.asus.com/forum/showthre...N-speed-in-ASUS-ROG-ZEPHYRUS-GX501#post700947

SpeedFan
http://www.almico.com/speedfan.php



Another one is Notebook FanControl:
https://github.com/hirschmann/nbfc/releases
https://github.com/hirschmann/nbfc

How to Control Laptop Fan Speed w/ NoteBook FanControl

How to Download and use a Notebook FanControl

 

Hi there. No you do not need to do all that. Under the main flat cover (that lifts when you open up your laptop) there should be a small black sticker, you just need to remove that sticky piece and there will be a very small 'connector' for the LED cable. You do not need to remove the heatsink, you don't even need to disassembly your laptop again.
This bit:

 

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I didn't see any fan control when I re-installed it.
Unless I'm missing something.

My fans sound like they are on max settings, even though my temps are between 37c and 41c.
They slow down every once in awhile, but eventually ramps back up.

***Update: Wow, I wondering if I'm missing a driver or something. But this laptop is loud.
Seriously, I am at idle around 37C and the fans sound like they are at max.


*****Can someone send a screenshot of their HWMonitor info at idle (and laptop fans at less than 2400RPM)? I think I may have found the culprit, but I just want to double check. Thank you..

 

Ahhhh, so that's what that cable is for. I accidentally pulled it out when taking the fan off and I wondered what it controlled.

 

Updated stress test.
1 hour of full 16gb memory ROGRealBench.
Final undervolt at -0.135.
Temps seem reasonable.

Also, I updated the current firmware/bios and there is a more up-to-date BIOS than one found in Asus website.
Bios 302.
It kind of fixed the max fan issue. The fan ramps down a bit more frequently, but there are still times when the fan spins basically at max even during little to idle times.




***Man...Unfortunately, the fans are still going off. I don't mind that they do, and I can drown them out with music. However, what I am concerned about is the longevity of the fans if they just continue spinning at max regardless.
Anyone experience this? My fans are constantly at 2400+RPM.

 

The fans will start to respond to more factors than just Cpu / Gpu temp. For example, the VRM's, PCH, skin temperature etc.

 

Where did you find BIOS version 302? It is not on their official drivers webpage.

 

Yeah, it's not on their website which is weird.
It's an old habit, but I update most things under Device Manager.
I right-clicked Firmware and then choose Update, and to my surprise there it was, downloading and installing Firmware 302. Rebooted to bios and installed it.

 

Oh my - I just did it. I am now running BiOS version 302. How unexpected...(for it to work through Device Manager). It did however ask me to restart and upon restarting it went into BIOS itself and it prompted me to say that BIOS is being upgraded.

Thank you.

 

The fan on nvidia gpu laptop will spin nonetheless. Even if the temp is as cold as 45c or below.

It is a requirement by Nvidia maybe. I'm not so sure.



The fan will outlast your realistic usage of this laptop, and by the time that you need a replacement it will be cheap on ebay (this is many years later!)

 

After a couple of days and some tweaking, I just couldn't bare it.
My older Gigabyte P35Wv4 is quiet on the same types of tasks, and only ramps up the fan when gaming or doing heavy tasks.
Also, the lifting mechanism of the bottom plate is amazing in theory. A lot of air going in and out and cools the laptop effortlessly. However, practical it is not. I use the laptop on my lap sometimes, and by doing so the bottom part gets pushed back.
In addition, closing the laptop (if someone were to use a 2nd screen) is also not ideal due to closing of the air intakes from the front.

I'm hoping the fan issue is just my specific laptop, and that a thermal sensor is off or not calibrated or something. But I will be returning it due to the other issues.
Very nice laptop though.

 

Does that laptop have optimus?

No laptop nowdays with nvidia gpu allows itself to run passively afaik

 

No it doesn't. But it's for sure a lot more quiet than the GX501 (and it's a couple of generations older, 5700HQ and 970m).

 

maybe asus is being careful on this machine since the heatsink is much thinner compared to other gaming laptops, so that's why the fan is set to always on

 

Speedfan is total greek to me.

 

Any idea if we can get optimus to work on this laptop given that the new GM501 is getting that option? I bought a new XPS 13 (9370) for battery life, but it would be nice to have some battery life in this thing as well.

 

Yesterday I was wondering what the „ECO“ Mode in ROG Center ist all about. I was kinda suprised when testing PUBG with „ECO Off“ and „ECO On“.

ECO off: CPU all 4 Cores at 3400 - 3500mhz at 78-81C, GPU at 1500 - 1700 mhz at 75C. Fans quite loud.

ECO on: CPU all 4 Cores at 3400 - 3500mhz at 82-85C, GPU at 1500 - 1700 mhz at 81C. Fans half as loud as before. Really quite for a Gaming Notebook.

Repasted with LM and changed the Thermal glue.

So is ECO Mode only for the fans? Could‘t see any change in performance.

 

If verified, this would be an amazing find.
Would buy one of these in a heartbeat if they weren't so loud.

 

I will test it a bit a further and will give a Update.

Running BIOS 302 (Updated via Device Manager) and undervolted via throttlestop (-125mv).

Got the 1080MQ.

 

One of the usb port on my zephyrus is powered even when the laptop is shut down and it drains my battery. Is there a way to disable it?

 

I have one and I love it. Unfortunately, life just reared its ugly head and I am looking to part with it, if you're interested, PM me.

 

Can verify. For me its only the fan speed. Firstly i was supriesed how silent the laptop was, until I saw the stock temps under heavy gaming load. Undervolted above 94°C. When I turned off Eco mode, it wasnt as silent any more but reached only 89°C. Took my quite a while to find the Eco mode and its "meaning". Still I think even with Eco mode off, the noise is totally acceptable, no anoying air noises or high pitched noises.
Guess I have to do a repaste.

May I ask about the thermal glue? Thought that thermal pads and paste would be fine for a repaste?

 

Thanks for clarification. I have used Liquid Metal for the DIEs and replaced thr glue with pads (0,5mm). Everything from Thermal Grizzly. To be honest I would use a better glue and not pads. Core differentials are a bit higher now (2-4C). With glue they were even.

 

Ok, but I'm a bit confused about the glue. Is it real glue, meaning that you can't disassemble it later on, since it is glued? Or is it just a sticky thermal paste? If it is the later one, whats the official name for it, thermal glue?

And if thermal glue is already used, is it safe to disassemble it?

 

You can disassamble the thermal glue easily. Its more like „gum“ which doesn‘t stick to hard. Don‘t know the right word for this kind of paste.

 

There are some good durable thermal paste that have a very good thermal conductivity. It's not one or the other...

All the pastes that shipped with my previous MSI, Clevos and Alienware were drying more than other more powerful pastes.

 

It's true that experiences vary based on the hardware used, I know my many years of Asus laptops haven't needed re-pasting and the ones I am in contact with are still running the same stock paste years later.

Same goes for MSI, but I only started with the MSI GT80 and a couple of years later the GT73, so IDK about previous generations.

As far as long lasting and high conductivity - heat transfer - noone has merged those 2 qualities that I've experienced.

There are some enthusiast pastes that in the right hands will do much better than the inexperienced - weeks and months instead of years before failure.

Still the thick stuff makes for a good air / moisture seal and lasts a lot longer, and cools fine after fixing the out of the box CPU voltage, but still won't provide the lowest temps.

I'm running systems 7-10 years later with AS5 and NT-H1 with no re-paste required, so it is possible.

I've also seen plenty of newbies repasting many times and still getting increasing thermals after days and weeks, so YMMV.

 

The thick paste (glue) works better for allowing an even pressure on the CPU of the heatplate, where the pads will often tilt the mating due to applying up lift pressure against their compression.

KS5 Pro is the user replacement for the "glue" that comes on laptops:

Amazon's K5 Pro Listings

Computer Systems GR (maker) Youtube Channel
https://www.youtube.com/user/ComputerSystemsGR

!!! K5 PRO !!! Thermal paste for use insead of thermal pads. NEW PRODUCT (2014)

 

Is there any way to change the fan modus except using eco mode? I read everywhere overboost and silent mode, but I can't find it in the ROG gaming center.

@ pitha1337 thanks for clarification

 

You are welcome. No these modes are not available in ROG center only the ECO button. For the new Zephyrus there is also a new ROG center with new modes. Don't know if we could also install it. Couldn't find the binaries yet.

Edit: Just checked the support page...a new BIOS 306 is out now (1080 version)!

 

I am debating, new GX501 w/8750H or previous gen w/7700HQ. Used previous gen w/120hz refresh or new gen w/144hz? I can't find any differences other than cpu and monitor....Used old stock or shiny new? What would you recommend?

 

I would go for the new one. Sadly a 1070 (-10% performance), but a CPU with higher boost, optimus for travel, SSD and HDD and both sides have air in and outtakes.
CPU can boost higher, but I'm not sure if the cooling is enough. Could be that repaste is needed.

Oh, and the ugly "republic of gamers" font isn't below the display anymore, thats a big plus.

 

@teiger I think you are thinking of the GX501 vs GM501. I'm considering the original GX501 w/7700HQ & 120hz display vs the new release of the GX501 w/8750H & 144hz display. I can't find any more differences other than the obvious (cpu & display) between the original & new version.

 

@bahnzii If I read right, the new GX501 has a new fan system to get ride of the dust in the fan.

 

Yes you are right, only the CPU, Display and pirce is different. Also they integrated the new cooling system.
https://www.anandtech.com/show/12613/asus-rog-zephyrus-m-gm501

 

Can we use the new ROG Centre? Is it possible to change the color scheme of the keyboard of the old GX501 to the new one with the new lightnings?

 

Would be nice of someone from the new GX501-GI could share the new ROG Center binaries with us. Should be in "C:\eSupport" folder.

I would try it if I had the binaries.

Edit: which thermal paste/glue should I take for the chips beside CPU and GPU. I have replaced the Original thermal glue with thermal pads. I‘m not happy with the core differentials. So I want to change it back...

 

Anyone else experiencing battery issues?

I'm on a second unit and the battery in it also seems to be failing...

 

Hey guys, I want to get an idea of what temperatures you are getting while gaming.

I've been playing BF1 and COD WW2 on highest graphics settings. My CPU gets pretty hot (between high 80's and mid 90's C), but my graphics chip doesnt seem to go above 75 C.

 

@ mason2smart no problems for me here.

@ GreggoG same here. But it heavily depends on the room temperature.If it is about ~20°C my CPU hits with undervolt around 91°C on demanding titels, GPU stays at around 75°C. Will do a repaste soon and hope that the CPU will drop to 80°C (since the hottest core now is 91°C and the lowest one around 83°C).