ASUS ROG Zephyrus Duo 15 SE (GX551QR-XS98)

I'll keep that in mind. I've read a lot of complaints on the Y540 as well, hence why I asked.

Always good to know these things in advance. Thanks for all of your assistance.

 

Does anyone get micro freezes or micro pauses while gaming, while connected to an external monitor at times every couple-dozens of minutes? Like hitting some kind of bottleneck. Has happened to me with games such as Genshin Impact, and even older games like Resident Evil 6. It's random and it last like a second at times.

Really wish this Zephyrus Duo had a MUX switch or a way to just have the dGPU do everything.. instead of splitting the work, such as making that the Laptop screens also get handled by the dGPU 3070 just like the External Monitor, because I have a feeling that could be the culprit... some kind of multitasking bottleneck of processing two GPUs, managing two different tasks of some sort at the same time causing some weird desync/hang up.

Also any benefits in performance in regards to HDMI vs. DisplayPort? They both seem to go through dGPU... but just curious if there's a difference in performance depending on which one you use.

EDIT: One other thing? Anyone have a problem installing Armoury Crate? Heard it's very finicky for a lot of Asus users across many different models... mine gets stuck on Installing Live ROG Service... I managed in the meantime to install an older version that allows me to at least control the fans, between Silent, Balanced & Turbo modes with the 'Fan' function key with a proper full featured GUI.

Bought mine from iBuyPower, the AMD 5900HX + RTX3070 configuration, and I'm loving it as an upgrade from my Sager GTX1070 & Intel i7 7700k... but I'm having a few small annoyances.

 

DisplayPort is necessary to use G-Sync on an external monitor. Plus, DisplayPort 1.4, which the Duo can do, is capable of running a 4K display at 120 Hz. The HDMI port is 2.0b, which only goes up to 4K/60 Hz.

The only time Armoury Crate has ever worked properly for me was with the out-of-the-box Windows installation. Trying to install the software separately from a clean Windows setup would result in various errors and/or parts of the program not working correctly. This is just one of many reasons why I will no longer touch an Asus laptop.

 

Anyone attempted, or know if anyone who has tried to flash the Alienware m17 R4 3080(165w) vbios?

 

Since some of you guys are looking at getting the Zephyrus Duo but can't find stock, the Zephyrus S17 is also now available for preorder. I've already preordered the 4k S17. Can't wait to get it in July.

ASUS ROG Zephyrus S17 (2021) Gaming Laptop, 17.3” 120Hz 4K Display, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080, Intel Core i9-11900H, 32GB DDR4, 2TB SSD

Release date: July 19, 2021
Price: $3699.99


ASUS ROG Zephyrus S17 (2021) Gaming Laptop, 17.3” 165Hz QHD Display, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080, Intel Core i9-11900H, 32GB DDR4, 1TB SSD

Release date: June 28, 2021
Price $3299.99


ASUS ROG Zephyrus S17 (2021) Gaming Laptop, 17.3” 165Hz IPS Type QHD, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060, Intel Core i7-11800H, 16GB DDR4, 1TB SSD

Release date: July 12, 2021
Price: $2,199.99

 

I had a similar sounding problem when running a game on an external display in fullscreen borderless while something else like a YouTube stream or OBS displayed on one of the internal displays. The hybrid graphics get borked a bit for some reason when the dwm has too much to think about. I dont have this problem when running in true fullscreen mode.

This machine really should have come with a MUX switch. Such a big oversight imo.

 

Someone on reddit said they got this message from XoticPC.

"I wanted to reach out to you about your order with us - ASUS just contacted us to say that they marked the model that you purchased as end of life and have ceased production, so we unfortunately aren't going to be able to get you the exact model that you have on order right now. We do have other options available for purchase though with similar specs and performance, and we'd be able to transfer the funds you paid for your initial order to another order for another model if you'd be interested in switching. Would you like some recommendations for other models we'd actually be able to get to you?"

This was for the one with the 4k screen, 3080, and 2tb SSD. The GX551QS-XS99.

Definitely crazy. I wonder if it's due to the shortages on everything? I guess if anybody wants to pick one up, they'd better hurry. Who knows what else will run out?

 

hi guys
i have a problem with mine is the GX551QS-XS98. model
my 3080 crashes if i use the turbo profile... i mean out of the box. Is there any fix for this?
i did a DDU and clean driver reinstall, before this i rolled back drivers and also updated everything i could bios windows etc.... is there any actual fix for this or i've got a lemon 3080?
it happens when the rog boost reaches 1910mhz ish i've seen 1920 but thats where it crashes.
if i put manual reducing the boost it doesn't crash but crashing with its own turbo profile doesnt feels right it feels like a faulty card or is there any fix?

 

Turbo profile overclocks your GPU, no? In that case it's probably just an unstable overclock.

 

but it woyld be an unstable factory overclock?
but anyone had this issue before? maybe in other system...
im starting to think that this is normal but another duo owner told me that he doesnt had this problem with the turbo profile in apex, destiny etc...

thx for the quick answer btw

 

I mean the factory overclock is just a default profile they set. They don't individually test and overclock each system. They choose conservative enough values such that it's stable for a high percentage of systems, but there will always be a select few that are unstable with those default overclocks.

Also you may want to check if the turbo profile overclocks the CPU as well. I'm not sure if they do on the Zephyrus Duo. Someone else may want to chime in on that.

 

If it's crashing due to the overclock from the Turbo mode, I'd send it in for warranty work. The overclock on the GPU in turbo mode is just 100 core and 150 memory. You paid a premium price for this laptop. I'd expect a premium experience.

 

My 3080/FHD equipped model also crashes in turbo mode on some games. For example, BF5 will crash very quickly under the turbo profile but works for hours on performance mode or manual mode with a slightly lower OC. I can play other games or run a 3dmark stress test without any problem in turbo mode.

It isn't super uncommon for some games to respond differently to GPU overclocks. I would be a little more concerned if it happened on every game or if switching to performance mode / manual mode didn't solve the problem.

 

Yeah, pretty much my issue. Will have to see how things perform on true fullscreen since I'm so used to playing everything on Windowed mode due to convenience. Really hope for Asus or Nvidia to implement some sort of solution through software or bios update... but if this was an issue as well for RTX 20 series models of the previous year, then I doubt it'll get solved... at least not officially. Hoping for some kind of Advanced Optimus patch from either of them, but doubt it.

 

From my recollection, this was only a problem on the original duo when used in Optimus mode. It had a MUX and could be switched into discrete GPU mode.

I wish this was possible but the hardware required for AO is not present.

 

Yeah I can see the better performance in true Fullscreen mode in some game examples... the stutter/micro pause every couple of mins is pretty much gone even while having over 30 tabs open in chrome while a Youtube video is playing on my External monitor. Haven't tried while streaming/recording with OBS, but I can see that the problems are mostly gone. Kinda inconvenient not being able to play in Windowed mode, but will have to do for now... as long as I have to deal with Optimus and some parts of the hardware being bottlenecked by using both the iGPU & dGPU at the same time.

Hope Asus or Nvidia does as much as they can through Software/Patches/Drivers to improve the experience when limited to this level through hardware, or Windows 10/11 does some magical things whether through their GPU Hardware Scheduling, Game Mode or many other things that deal with DWM, and maybe among other things.

 

Hi again. I've been looking at the Lenovo Legion 5 and I must say it sounds more appealing to me. Great price, good reviews, nice keyboard, and great battery. I'll take a chance on the screen but I've read nothing bad about it. Suitable for me as I don't game much anymore.

How are the fans on this? Does it turn on just from things like web browsing?

Also can you upgrade the ram and SSD? I've read it has a 2.5 SSD and an M2 so I was just trying to clarify.

Thanks.

 

What are your temps on destiny or apex. I saw many reviews that they usually sit under 80 C° and if i dont underclock the cpu i hit 94ish in 1 minute of gameplay idk if also this is normal dont get me wrong i love this laptop i really love it but im with sou yang this doesnt feel premium. Failing with turbo profile out of the box feels like a brandless gaming laptop issue more than a flagship model issue well i'll try to ask for warranty. Thanks for the help. Also i want to know the temps im sitting at 95 cpu and 76 gpu in apex everything maxed lowering the cpu tdp to 45 it lowers the temps to uper 80ish and gpu 72

 

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Thanks for the link. I'm good to go now. I found something that suited me better spec and price wise. Fingers crossed on the screen.

On the Asus Duo topic, has anybody had issues with the sleep function? I've heard that some have had it happen on its own while gaming and others have been unable to put it to sleep. It was something I was looking at when considering it. Some said it caused theirs to overheat and not work properly.

It seemed like it was a pretty recurring complaint.

 

Does anyone have the eSupport file for the 3070 version? Asus won't get back to me about it and the guy from xoticpc told me they never heard of it before. Some real winners here. I updated windows and when it restarted my computer it wiped my entire hard drive clean of anything. I had to reinstall the raid drivers again along with windows, but it left me without the esupport file. I wasn't smart enough to make any sort of backups thinking it wouldn't be a problem to do that later. Procrastination at it's best.

 

Hit me up with a PM if you want an image of the entire recovery partition.

 

I cannot private message on here. Can I get it from google or anything? My gmail is [email protected]

 

I sent you an email with links to the downloads.

 

So I finally got a response from Asus about my PC being buggy and wiping its own harddrive with windows backup, oh yeah, and about my GPU not working with my version of windows for a while. Well, this is the kind of service my $3000 computer bought me, and don't forget that I paid extra for 3 years of service.



Hello David Chio,


Thank you for contacting ASUS Product Support. My name is Cassandra C., and I understand that you would like to reinstall WIndows 10 and you are having issues with your GPU. While I am sorry to hear you are experiencing this issue, I assure you it will be my pleasure to help you resolve it!



Based on the error you described, we recommend that you reinstall Windows 10 using a recovery media that can be purchased from Bizcom. This media is specifically designed for your model and has all drivers/software preinstalled.





Ensure the unit is plugged in and please be advised that this may result in the loss of any current settings and data. Please back up all valuable data before proceeding as ASUS will not be liable for any loss of data.



You may visit https://www.bizcom-us.com/asus/rmrequest.htm to proceed with this purchase. Please note: there may be a shipping fee and handling fee. The actual fee amount depends on the model and shipping address.





FAQ on How to Boot from USB Drive:

 

Hi,
Do you still have the entire recovery partition? I have the version R9 5900, RTX3080 but I guess it is compatible with version 3070 you have .
Is it possible to share, please?
Thank you

 

Sorry for my late answer but thanks Sou Yang for your reply and advice.
I actually went for warranty and when they tried the duo immediately they saw those crashes even on benchmarks so i had a replacement... it took. A bit because the 3080 has shortage

Now...

My gx551qs is amazingly fast and is way cooler than before, my first one didnt throttled BUT... It was sitting aeround 85 to 90ish usually 87 now im at low 70s in most task and games.
And now for the gpu i can manually overclock way more than 150 core having a buttery smooth experience and turbo doesn't makes the laptop to crash. 10/10 pleaseant experience with the guys of HiDevolution definetly going to buy a g15 for my bro from them later this year. Now this duo totally worths its price.

 

Hi everyone,

Anyone knows how to enable SVM (cpu virtualization) for QS model?!
There is nothing about CPU in BIOS!

 

mmm... no? no one? really?!

 

Hy bro can u plz send me also with the image?
My mail: [email protected]

 

I have just joined the zephyrus duo club, and wow this laptop is quite an interesting experience

It is surprisingly a lot denser and heavier than you would think

 

Welcome to the club

Yup its kinda heavy, but it packs some serious hardware so the weight worths its power.
Im also really happy to be an owner i never thought that i could get something like this. I move from little jobs everywhere and this machine is like a dream came true for me

 

Thanks for the warm welcome!
yeah its amazing how much hardware they can pack in this thing, surprisingly it is the only laptop i see in the market that uses a 90watt tdp on the cpu, which i believe makes it faster than even most desktops
the 130watt 3080 seems to be performing pretty good too

 

Hi everyone! As i am now an owner of a ASUS ROG ZEPHYRUS DUO SE i came across the information that it's possible to flash a 155W / 165W vBIOS. As a gamer i have quite some knowledge in overclocking and modding so i know the risks, but still i would like to try it out. However before i do, i would like to hear whether someone with a 155W / 165W bios is already running his system for some time without problems? What's your experience, what are your temps, did you notice any problems?

Glad to hear your reports, i am sure these would help a lot interested people deciding whether to try it out or not

 

before doing this procedure you should replace the thermal paste of the gpu and the VRMs and VRAMs. Cooling pad (klim mistral or iets gt500 as an example).

 

According to Asus they already used Thermal Grizzly Conductonaut liquid metal on CPU and GPU, so i suppose they used some high quality stuff on other elements as well (VRAM, VRM's, ...)? I am less concerned about the temperatures in this machine as it has some quite capable cooling - i am more concerned about the high current drawn by the GPU at 155W / 165W. If we very roughly count that it's an increase in power of 30W, at very roughly 0.7Vcc we have an increase in supply current of the chip of (again very, very roughly) 42A. This is a very significant increase for the voltage regulators used, and as i do not know the model and configuration of the voltage regulators on the mainboard, i am really not sure how they will withstand such an increase in current drawn. Thus i really would like to hear if someone with such a vBIOS is driving this laptop for a longer time now (stable)

 

only CPU

 

Didn't know that, thank you. Absolutely unclear to me why they did the CPU and left out the GPU...

 

it is a discourse related to the guarantee and minimizing damage. Intel and AMD CPUs have a small and easier to handle die (especially protect the sensitive part to short circuits), nvidia gpu has a larger die but its surface makes it difficult to operate without long-term risks.

 

Indeed sounds reasonable. My older notebook with a 2080 works fine now for over a year with liquid metal, however i wanted to avoid messing around with liquid metal in the new one. How about graphene pads like the carbonaut, a viable alternative? Or won't it be an improvement over the stuff they use on the GPU now?

 

could be an improvement the speech is that the graphene pads in manage to saturate the micro-gaps present both on the cpu die and on the heatsink. you should see some videos and understand if it suits your situation.

 

Got it, thanks for the hints! Besides that looking forward to hearing some reviews about the 155w / 165w vbios, anyone using this for a longer period stable?

 

Does anyone have an issue with their browsers crashing all the time with this machine. It started with chrome so I switched to Brave and the same thing happened. I switched to Edge which ran fine for a while but then it started crashing as of late randomly as well. I tried multiple browser specific solutions but to avail. Has anyone dealt with the same issue on this laptop?

 

For me everything runs absolutely stable, i use Chrome, Firefox Dev and Edge for work - no problems so far. Are you running stock settings (Silent, Turbo, ...) or overclocked?

 

Ya I am running on stock settings. It is currently running on performance mode which was the stock setting. I am not sure why this is happening

 

You'll want you heatsink to be as even as possible to allow it to perform as good as liquid metal.

I used to use carbonaut on my GS75 and with a heatsink lapped to a mirror finish carbonaut performed as well as liquid metal.