ASUS ROG Strix SCAR G533Q# Owner's Lounge

Can someone please share the G533QR RTX 3070 115W vBIOS?

I want to use it for my Zephyrus G15 (GA503QR) RTX 3070 which only has 80W TGP.

 

Here : http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/vbios-for-rtx-3070.835467/
is my bios dump useing gpu-z from a Asus Rog Strix G15G513QR if youre interested.
It also has 115W

But in asus webpage it is stated : "With ROG Boost up to 1660MHz at 115W"
but in nvidia control panel i see 1560MHz as graphic boost clock.Can any of you scar owners show their nvidia control panel system info for the rtx3070?

 

So I tried these Crucial CL16 memory sticks, BL2K16G32C16S4B, advertised to run at 3200MT/s CL16, Crucial like any American company, screwing you over and not listing the full specifications for these memory modules and it turns out, they only run at 2667MT/s at CL18.
This is their JEDEC rating, they require XMP support to run at full speed, which is the first time I seen in a laptop but it turns out Asus does not add XMP support to their AMD laptops, its only on their Intel ones and even then most of them are locked.

AMD users are basically crippled, we have to find memory that run at lowest JEDEC standard but thats laughable considering how hard its finding good SO-DIMM memory.
I also cannot find any datasheets on the BL2K16G32C16S4B, their specification listing mentions no requirement for XMP which USUALLY is the practise everyone else uses.

I just want to plop this here for anyone in case they think they can upgrade the memory, read carefully and if the memory modules do not have datasheet, avoid.
Follow the JEDEC standard and not XMP unless you got an Intel system with UNLOCKED XMP, yes even if it has XMP it can still be locked LOL.

 

In my search i found only one that has somewhat good specs is : https://www.kingston.com/dataSheets/HX432S20IB_16.pdf
Which i use now.Could you compare timespy cpu score stock ram vs the crucial at 2667 CL18 you have?
With stock 16gb 3200 cl22 i got 9033 and the hyperx 3200 cl20 32gb i got 9883 for the cpu score (5900hx) seems like a decent jump

 

Score I got in just a quick test was around 8351 so its clearly much inferior.

I just returned them soon as I got them and tested them and confirmed they were not working at their rated speed and saw the score they got.

Ironically I was looking at those Kingston memory sticks and was deciding if I should get them but when I saw your score I was having doubts, mine scored 9 852 with stock memory, I suppose the CL20 decrease from CL22 stock memory is not worth it. My stock memory is 3200MT/s CL22 Samsung memory sticks, two 16GB sticks so 32GB in total.
https://www.3dmark.com/spy/18747914

What a shame, was hoping to get the most out of this Ryzen CPU but looks like we either have to wait for someone to make lower than CL20 memory in the JEDEC standard for DDR4 SO-DIMM

 

Which is probably never I kept my cl18 g.skill kit, because even though it is running at cl22, it consistently scores over 10k points on the cpu time spy test, and I have a 5800h! So maybe there is something to gain with dual rank memory after all, but comparing the results of people with the cl20 HyperX kit, it's not going to be more than 3% lol. It's funny that laptops with AMD cpus which are known to love faster memory timings are completely locked but 10th gen MSI laptops had a fully enabled bios.

Asus has been doing this for years and years and they won't change now. It's just much easier to have nothing to do in the bios menu of a laptop; the less the user can change the less bricked devices they'll get. What I find more annoying is that AMD claims that their laptops cpus may be overclocked, but there is just no way for the end user to do it, why is ryzen master only for desktop chips?

 

Will this memory work at stock rated speeds?

Samsung M471A2K43DB1-CWE

Its rated at CL21 3200MHz, I just hope it can default to 3200mhz and no lower. I'm getting terrible performance with the single stick of 16GB CL22 Samsung RAM Asus put in this laptop...

 

Ram overclocking should be an option in all laptops moving forward. Laptop ram sticks can be overclocked a decent amount and they really do provide a tangible benefit since JEDEC specs are so slow.

Heck my GS75 still trades blows with new 3080M machines simply because i have overclocked the ram on my machine (2666 CL19 to 3200 CL18)

 

This one is cl22. This kind of ram does not have a xmp profile so the spec shown is jedec. In fact I think these are the modules Asus is installing in their 32gb models, so that one should be fine. Single channel memory makes this laptop useless.

 

Asus overclocks the gpu in turbo mode.

 

This guy managed to find some kind of Chinese branded memory running at a JEDEC speed of CL18 and 3200MT/s, thats impressive but I cannot find the real manufacturer behind it, the reviews seems to suggest its working just fine at its rated speed.
Its not in stock but could be on AliExpress?

 

It's relatively new company - but with overall good feedback from various places in web. Review - https://www.tomshardware.com/features/oloy-ram-should-you-buy
They do not manufacture their own ICs but instead use Samsung, SK Hynix, Micron or SpecTek. I didn't tried them tho, but once I'll find them in stock - will try.

 

Anyone else having issues with USB resets. I installed a Sabrent Rocket pcie4 nvme ssd when i first got it, now thinking maybe im seeing the amd 500 chipset issues? Cant seem to identify the chipset used?

 

AMD 5000 mobile doesn't support pcie4.
https://www.amd.com/en/products/apu/amd-ryzen-9-5900hx

 

OK well that's fine, at least I won't have to worry about heat so much lol. The usb dropouts are still a concern though. Finding that my dual monitors flick off and back on again randomly, and at points my phone disconnects (I use for development alongside vr). Mainly concerned about headset dropouts though in vr.

 

Running through a soho Dock, and I've connected a 100w pd USB c charger to the Dock to try and ensure its not a power draw issue

 

That is a bandwidth problem, I use a Lenovo ThinkPad USB Type-C Dock Gen 2, and if you have too much devices connected to it, a 75Hz monitor and a 144Hz monitor, its just too much. I found that the Ethernet specially if its above 100Mbps speeds, it will consume a ton of bandwidth off your dock.

So what I do is just plug all the high bandwidth stuff to the other USB ports, its pretty annoying.

 

So today I formatted my drive and reinstalled windows but I can't get Armoury crate to work properly again. I have tried flashing the 309 bios and different versions of windows but I can't get Armoury crate to display the tdp and gpu oc sliders that I had before and I no longer have windows power plans analogous to each armoury crate performance setting.

I think it's fair to say that, currently, Asus have made a massive software mess. This MyAsus app installs in your computer automatically and takes over some of the things that armoury crate is supposed to do, and many things that are supposed to be controlled through armoury crate simply are not listed, nor are we made aware of their existance until we happen to install that service. And Myasus is somehow more up to date than their support-downloads section.

For instance, today I found out that in order to have the panel's overdrive working we need to download the ReFlashRateService from the website, because it won't show up on myasus, and once it's installed armoury crate will display the 3ms overdrive option together with win key, igpu etc. Am I missing something here? God I wish I hadn't touched my OS lol.

 

Having the exact same issue and I haven't even formatted my drive, simply uninstalled and reinstalled Armory Crate when the CPU usage bug hit. Now I don't have the sliders either! (as per https://imgur.com/UMoaPgu)

I also noticed I no longer have the 3ms option in system configuration, so will have to try the reflashrateservice.

Doesn't seem to be a unique problem, it seems that it's because the contents of 'Armory Crate Config' folder in the C:/ProgramData folder doesn't have anything, therefore if someone here is able to zip and upload their Armory Crate Config folder that should fix the issue.

 

If it helps here is the 'Armory Crate Config' folder from rog strixg15g513

 

Ah ha!

Found the different ArmouryCrate Config set up files in a backup I had.

05/02/2021 10:26 56,758 ACConfig_G513QH_1.0.2.zip
05/02/2021 09:14 56,977 ACConfig_G513QM_1.0.2.zip
05/02/2021 09:14 56,977 ACConfig_G513QR_1.0.4.zip
05/02/2021 09:14 56,982 ACConfig_G533QM_1.0.2.zip
05/02/2021 09:15 56,977 ACConfig_G533QR_1.0.4.zip
05/02/2021 09:15 56,976 ACConfig_G533QS_1.0.5.zip
05/02/2021 09:14 56,764 ACConfig_G713QH_1.0.2.zip
05/02/2021 09:15 56,984 ACConfig_G713QM_1.0.2.zip
05/02/2021 09:15 56,981 ACConfig_G713QR_1.0.5.zip
05/02/2021 09:15 56,981 ACConfig_G733QM_1.0.2.zip
05/02/2021 09:15 56,986 ACConfig_G733QR_1.0.5.zip
05/02/2021 09:15 56,994 ACConfig_G733QSA_1.0.6.zip
05/02/2021 09:15 56,984 ACConfig_G733QS_1.0.7.zip


I've uploaded them and they can be found below:

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1jHPL9sV9qpvJ7t2RPHj5iTI4M2FUtbG9?usp=sharing

Download and unzip the respective version and then run the ConfigInstaller file and it should then be all set.

 

Updating you about RAM availability.
Convo with oloy support:

Dear Zi:
Thank you for contacting us; we are honored to serve you.
MD4S1632180IZ0DC has been discontinued. Now, it can be re-manufactured only when our customers buy in large quantities.
Our MD4S1632180IZ0DH has the same specifications as MD4S1632180IZ0DC, for your reference.
On March 29th, we shipped 20 sets to the Amazon warehouse, so you can order them after the warehouse completes the replenishment.

I've ordered mine - https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08M3TSWMQ/ Only 1 left, hurry up!

 

Thank you for this. No way I would have figured this out myself. I just blamed it on a new version of this thing or something lol. Everything is working now after running the configinstaller.exe

 

Just got my new G533QR a few days ago, with Ryzen 7 5800H and RTX 3070, but the one with FHD 300 Hz screen. This notebook is a beast and I'm really satisfied with it so far. Performance, battery, screen, speakers, keyboard, everything is great on it. And I can live without webcam and thunderbolt.

I have a few questions though:

1) Is it possible to configure the AURA key? It doesn't have all the profiles there, just a few of those and, what I find ridiculous, there's no "off" on the button itself so each time I want to turn off RGB I have to open the Armoury Crate. I would like to be able to turn off the RGB with the AURA key.

2) Is there a mode in Armoury Crate which works pure automatically to always give the best possible performance when needed, while keeping power consumption and fan speed at minimum when not needed? Even though I haven't noticed any performance drops between Turbo and Performance modes, the thing is much louder in Turbo mode so I'm wondering whether it's getting enough cooling in Performance and if prolonged gaming in that mode can cause any harm to the components due to higher temperatures. I don't like the fact that I have to switch between modes and take care about its cooling. I would like it to do everything automatically.

3) I tested USB Type C charging with a 65W charger and although it works, when I tried to open a game to see what will happen, a rather loud buzzing noise started coming from the notebook and I'm not sure if it's coming from the speakers (it didn't disappear when I muted the sound). The pitch was varying depending on the load, and it would stop as soon as I paused the game. Is this some component inside "crying" due to too much current being drawn from a weak charger? Later I heard that same noise once more but much more quieter, when it was connected on its 240W charger.

 

>1

Turning down brightness with f2 all the way does this.

>2
performance maybe? I know Turbo is disregard speed limit acquire frames, never used performance, if not, custom always exists!

>3
These new ryzen laptops are all a bit buggy w/ USB charging, have seen it behave oddly on three different models ... 2 g503s and my current g533. I just bought a spare 240w original asus charger i carry around, w/ one at home. no idea what the buzzing could be, never saw that problem, but i have seen it bug out armory crate, and do a couple of other funky weird things, so im staying away from it.

 

To be honest, I didn't even notice the keys for keyboard brightness on F2/F3 thank you!

I heard some noise from it today as well, it was more whining than buzzing this time, and while connected to it's original charger.

 

could you please post the update once you installed them?
thanks!

 

Scores with stock RAM:
1. Cinebench

2. 3DMark - https://www.3dmark.com/spy/19666309
3. UserBench - https://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/42103919
New RAM works OK. Specs are as advertised.


But scores are almost the same:
1. Cinebench

2. 3DMark - https://www.3dmark.com/spy/19744558
3. UserBench - https://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/42106930

In UserBench my RAM score was a little better than with stock Samsung RAM (actually almost the same, taking into consideration calculation error margin), but RAM itself didn't performed as good as they could. I've found other systems that uses same RAM and top result is 17% higher than mine and this result is achieved on AMD CPU.
https://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/41758936
https://ram.userbenchmark.com/SpeedTest/1059042/Unknown-CL18-20-20-D4-3200-2x16GB

This leads to a conclusion that Asus struggles developing proper BIOS where CPU could utilize full RAM potential.

I'm gonna write to Asus with my findings, maybe they will look into this problem.
Luckily that stock Samsung RAM stick costs ~90 eur in second hand market - so this "upgrade" will cost me nothing. And hopefully Asus will release improved BIOS in future, as now it's a big disappointment.

 

hm weird

wonder if stats are reporting wrong

my CPU score went up by a ton by moving from 3200/cl22 to 3200/cl20

 

Do you have any test result for comparison? Or could you run them? Also, what BIOS version you have? Mine tests were done on BIOS 315.

 

How are you satisfied with speakers on your Scars? I was amazed at first because the sound is so full, rich, clean and the bass is amazing. But as soon as I managed to turn it up a little bit more, seems like the bass is overpowering the speakers.

The sound is not distorted, but it has a very unpleasant kick. It sounds like the speaker membranes are in over-excursion or hitting something and I'm wondering if they exaggerated with the bass or if mine has a factory defect. Also I'm wondering if this can damage the speakers.

It depends on the song and on the chosen equalizer. But as I mostly listen to bass-heavy music (house, techno etc.), if it's on Normal it starts happening somewhere around 60% volume and above. If I use "Warm" EQ, it starts even earlier.

 

I have 313 now but i am sure the tests were ran on 308 or 309 or some earlier revision, i have owned this laptop since they day they launched

so prior to upgrading the ram my CPU score in 3DMark Timespy was 8600, post it was 9500. Didn't do any other testing then that i'm afraid, because I didn't even take note of the jump till some one else pointed it out lol.

 

I think they're the best laptop speakers I've ever heard outside of like maybe a macbook pro 15" - certainly better than any other PC laptop I've ever used.

I listen to a lot of bassy stuff, though almost never at full volume. I never notice the bass overtaking the rest of the sound though - so yeah yours might have a snag.


Still trips me out when I'm listening to something particularly bassy and it vibrates my hand near the system on the table lol. Just love it!

 

I've heard that Kingston Impact 3200MHz 32GB (2x16GB Dual Rank, Dual Channel) with JEDEC 3200 MHz CL20 bumps stock CPU result for about 600 pts

 

I have a request, since you own it from bios 308. Please check this location (it's hidden, you need to un-hide it) - C:\ProgramData\ASUS\ASUS System Control Interface\AsusSoftwareManager\AsusLiveUpdate\Temp
And let me know if you have BIOS 311 in there? I have 308, 309, 313, 315 and it's 311 that I'm missing. Will try to do RAM testing on all BIOS version to see if there's any improvement.

 

Hi Ziga, I actually purchased the same ram as you did but the x2 32gb ones which I will use for machine learning. Although I don't even have the laptop yet, I plan to get the best specs on it for both gaming and work. My point is, I appreciate you and other people posting their findings to help us noobies set up our Scars to become beasts. Thanks! Oh I also ordered the 280v charger too, the only thing I am scared of is adding liquid metal on the gpu? like someone mentioned earlier for the 150vbios tempts.

 

I appreciate your diligence.

The directory is empty for me. Sorry. I did have to do a system restore at one point to fix Armory Crate, so might be related.

Good Luck.

This is what I have - same stuff I think. my bump was 900 pts in Timespy - didn't mess around with too many more benchmarks cuz i've been otherwise very happy with the system.

https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B07BGLKD4M?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2_dt_b_product_details

 

You're welcome, and yes, applying LM on CPU/GPU is a very risky procedure. Did only once - but it was successful. So if you don't feel comfortable - just don't do it, or look if you have any local service that could do it for you.

 

Risky only if you apply it without knowing how to. If you apply it properly, the risk is very very low even if you don't apply any extra LM protection.

 

Yday wrote to Asus about the RAM speed problem - let's see how it ends.
Today flashed all BIOSes that I had, and... no improvements. Staying on 309 for now as this version shows SPDs properly:



Also did Windows memory test + memtest hopping that maybe something is not OK with these particular RAM sticks so I could RMA them, but all test were OK, no errors. So I can't find any other explanation other than - Asus incompetence developing BIOS.

Anyways, if anyone will find BIOS 311 on their system (C:\ProgramData\ASUS\ASUS System Control Interface\AsusSoftwareManager\AsusLiveUpdate\Temp) I could test RAMs on this version too, that's the only version I didn't tested.

 

I share the same opinion as you, it left me speechless when I first heard them because the sound is great. Also for watching movies, it's great. But yeah, those distortions concerned me a little bit, so I wanted to check if that's normal because I'm lazy to send it for repair. I had similar issues with my old Asus N750JK, but there were some very audible vibrations from the very first beginning, so I sent it to repair and they replaced speakers and casing. But this sounds to me mostly as they over-exaggerated with the bass EQ to get a fuller sound, sacrificing the overall volume because those speakers, although great, are still small and weak.

 

Today I've made a lucky shot. Even though links, in ASUS web page, exists only for BIOSes 309 and 315, using some naming patterns I've guested what is the actual link on file server to download version 311. Enjoy:
https://dlcdnets.asus.com/pub/ASUS/GamingNB/G533QS/G533QSAS.311.zip

Will update if there's any improvement on this version.

 

No improvements on 311.
Could someone that has 16GBx2 OEM Samsung CL22 RAMs do a quick check for me?
Close all programs, then open CPU Z and check "Uncore Frequency" under "Memory" tab.
I see that it fluctuates between 798.4 and 1596.8 MHz. Is it the same on OEM RAM?

 

Maybe Samsung memory sticks are just somehow incompatible with Strix? I know that they put Samsung by default but it's weird that Kingston memory get noticeable boost when Samsung do not have any improvements ...

 

Compatibility it's a tricky definition in this context.
All three kinds of RAM (OEM Samsung, Kingston and OLOy) are compatible with G533, because all of them run without any problems and they run on their specs which are 3200 MHz @ 1.2v and CL22, 20 and 18 respectively.
The problem is that laptop can't fully utilize RAM that are faster than OEM Samsung CL22. At least it's a case for OLOy RAM. I get almost exactly same scores on both Samsung and OLOy, but UserBench warns in red that OLOy RAM can run much faster because they have a record in their system that the same RAM ran ~17% better in other laptop that also has AMD CPU. And in Samsung test UserBench informs that RAMs are fully utilized. That's why I'm keen to see someone's UserBench test results with 16GBx2 Kingston 3200 Mhz CL20 RAM to see if they perform better than Samsung or even OLOy. That would be a huge surprise and would indicate not laptops fault but actually OLOy RAM.

 

I know that will be s*itty reference but Kingston Impact truly destroys OLOY even if OLOY have lower CL:
https://www.reddit.com/r/GamingLaptops/comments/msii0g/comparison_of_fastest_3200mhz_jdec_rams_for/
When I get mine Strix Scar G17 I'll be aiming for Kingston Impact CL20 3200 2x16GB because I heard these sticks improve Strix performance leaving competition with even lower CL behind.

 

We will be waiting for your UserBench results with Kingston RAM installed

 

Makes me trust OLOy as a brand way less tbh. Always kinda sketched me out since they showed up on the scene years back any ways. Like Elpida 2.0 lol

 

Well, it's easy to develop negative impression about the subject when it doesn't meet your expectations and especially when "other side of the coin" is not yet seen, I'm talking about real results with Kingston RAMs on g533qs laptop.
But since I'm software engineer I've learned how to not rush with conclusions, and complete all the tests . I've got UserBench results performed on identical Asus TUF FA506IV models, one is running with Kingston CL20 another one with OLOy CL18:
https://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/35705307
https://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/37463450
The only difference is that 2nd test wasn't testing dGPU, but this has no impact for CPU and Memory results.
If only we have got actual results with Kingston RAM on g533qs - that would be no brainer to make a proper conclusion whether it's BIOS fault or RAM

 

In my opinion 2nd test you linked (with OLOY RAM) is probably affected a bit by iGPU - remember that iGPU borrows RAM for simulate vRAM in fact this could perform (maybe unnoticeably?) better. But still - in this case both RAM performed almost identically.