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    *** ASUS ROG G703GX-XS71 Owner's Lounge ***

    Discussion in 'ASUS Reviews and Owners' Lounges' started by Spartan@HIDevolution, Jan 9, 2019.

  1. minc3

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    Btw, how’s your temperature pre / post undervolt?
     
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    It was hitting upper 90's before repasting with MX-4.
    After repasting with MX-4 I got upper 70's rarely hit 80's under heavy load.
    Now with undervolt it stays low 70's which is great. Also the fans don't go full spin.
    Much less noise.
     
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    Nice one, with LM, its gonna be few degrees lower + lower fan speed. There wont be much difference for the temp when comes to LM and any decent paste. But fan speed gonna be greatly improved. I believe this is due to the “stock” fan curve and the capabilities of the heatsink.
     
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    I recently purchased a G703GX.. Getting a lot of constant coil whine when it's on balanced or turbo mode.
    Have any of you guys come across this and were able to rectify it? I've spoken to a few people and apparently coil whine is occurring a lot of newer machines requiring a lot of power and it sounds like manufacturers don't want to warranty it in a lot of cases.

    And by the way, nice thread. I read it from page 1 through 21 lol.
     
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    Ha :) yeah, it's been a roller-coaster with this laptop so far. Lots of ups and downs but now I'd say it's pretty much stabilized on up :)

    Yes, I think I've also notice some coil whine, if it's indeed that (I hear it from the right side more), but only in certain very specific scenarios. One way I can replicate it every time, in Metro Exodus main menu. In other games only with specific graphics settings enabled or disabled (can't think of one now from the top of my head). In some games it's more noticeable than others but in most I can't hear it at all.
    Not sure if it indicates something bad at this point.
     
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    Yaaa same here... had to do a factory reset because throttlestop/armoury crate got messed up because I had some xtu settings messing with it ;/
    Now, I'm sometimes dropping to 55 fps in Borderlands 2. Something just seems a bit off. Unsure if it just isn't optimized with BL2 well.. It's usually around 70-80 frames, but I thought it would be well over that for a game 7 years old?
     
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    So far I do not encounter any coil whine and hopefully I don’t have to. I do came across so post above certain graphic intensive games will cause the coil whine. Not sure about that. However, i believe you can send it in for RMA if the coil whine is just too serious (from what i saw in some cases).
     
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    Looks like the CPU undervolt setting is very application dependent.
    I've been playing with it at -120mv for weeks, not a single problem and last night I've installed A Plague Tale Innocence and it kept freezing in random places (in the menu or after a few mins of gameplay). I decreased the undervolt setting to -110mv and it's been stable all morning in the game so far.

    Temps are still fine. CPU under 70C and GPU in this game stays at about 77C. Rather high but this game does look awesome. I kept stopping just to look around amazed how pretty it is.

    More testing required, installing Rage 2 now :)
     
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    Yes, it is application dependent. It can be stable in all the stress tests you can find. But it might still screw up in certain games aka real world applications.

    I’ve just purchased the Witcher 3 and it seems that i need a new set of undervolt / no undervolt setup for it as it kept crash to the desktop. I noticed that when I don’t undervolt cpu and gpu. The game won’t crash, at least the 2 and half hours game time.
     
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    Good idea, I'll try that too. I've been playing Witcher 3 a lot right before getting the new laptop, I just have to copy it over and run it.

    I do hope I won't have to touch the GPU voltage curve as the way it is now, it helps lower the temp by a good 4-5C compared to stock settings.
     
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    One thing I noticed about witcher 3 is, it’s super sensitive with undervolt or overclock. Many posted about the issue. Crash n etc. Ironically my cpu load is max 30%? Gpu load around 60-80% so i don’t understand why is it affected
     
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    Does anyone know the pad thickness size for vram?
    Also which driver version is it best to install from nvidia site, mobil or desktop one?
     
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    No idea about pad size as i just reapply thermal paste.

    Nvidia driver, just download the nvidia experience and scan for any updates.
     
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    Also, try to go for K5 Pro or similar thicker thermal paste. It'll help not make a mess.
     
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    Thanks.
    I installed desktop version of the GPU driver.
    I don't use GeForce experience.
    Seems to work fine with this driver.
    As for the thermal pads I tried 1mm thickness but it did not fit very good.
    I will try K5 Pro.
    I don't like using thermal paste for vram. Makes everything messy
     
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    Has anyone experience artifacts?
    Yesterday while I was playing Metro Exodus I got some artifacts in the desert area at night time. Enemies had flashlights on and as soon as I killed them artifacts dissapeared. I am thinking it was maybe just some conflict with the light rendering.
    I will test some more to see if it happens again.
    The temps were in the high 70's and the GPU clock dropped aboit 200 Mhz to 1800Mhz clock.
     
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    I haven't seen anything like this but I haven't reached the desert yet.

    Can you replicate these artifacts and maybe save a screenshot?
     
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    Hello,

    I am new at this forum and read lots of thins for last 3 days.
    I have a question and hope you guys can help me. I am really interest to buy a Alienware area 51M but after what I read on Alienware Area 51 M Thread I didn't order anything yet. I am from Europe and Dell have today 14 percent discount till 31 May 2019, so i can get Alienware Area 51M in full spec I9 9900K + RTX 2080 + 32 GB Ram 2400 Mhz + other thins for around 4000 Euros, but I am not sure now how bad is the Alienware motherboard problem and I thinking about Asus Rog G703GXR

    https://www.asus.com/us/Laptops/ROG-G703/Tech-Specs/
    I had Asus laptops for last 10 years as well Asus Gaming Pc's, I am very happy with them, but of curse after some time they need repaste and other stuff to keep the temperature in limits, but never at all I didn't see that one of mine Asus burn out.
    So what you think guys, you already own Asus Rog G703 , do you thing that the new Asus G703GXR with I9 9980HK and Liquid Metal will be great option for me? Is again a 4000+ Euros Laptop and really what make me sad is the Screen Bezels, second think what I worried is that how is the chassis are, I know Alienware have Magnesium Alloy but Asus have Aluminum, now dont really know with one is better and i did read a lot of it.
    So please if you can help me I will be so happy, hope I post it to correct topic because at this point is look I will be another Asus G703 owner soon.
    Thanks a lot.

    Have a nice evening :)
    Regards
    Scorpik
     
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    I can't say anything about the 51M since I haven't used one. The 703GX is an awesome machine but as you probably saw in this thread it wasn't very good out of the box.

    My opinion on the GXR coming with liquid metal is that Asus found that they MUST do that just to keep the temps in a usable range. Most likely they didn't want to invest anymore in developing proper cooling solution, they just 'upgraded' to better paste. Even the GX with i7 which is running cooler than the i9, out of the box was way too hot. It was throttling in any game. Only after I put liquid metal it is getting proper temperatures.

    In the end, if I were to start over, I wouldn't buy the GX or GXR (most likely they have the same heatsink solution). Unless you absolutely must have a somewhat portable gaming machine, I'd build a compact desktop with top end components and still save some money.

    I've also had several Asus laptops in the past and honestly it looks like their build quality and QA went down.
     
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    Thanks for you opinion. :)
     
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    I bought g703gx and had to return it twice due to quality issues - screen bleeding. But other than that, it was a good laptop with no major disadvantages I could find. I bought Area 51M and had to return that as well due to bad motherboard problems. At present, you can also look at MSI GT76 which is releasing soon and looks like a promising design. I have decided to wait and see how MSI GT76 fares before making a decision. Till then, I have moved back to my office laptop for work and PC/console for gaming purposes.

    If I was you, I would not invest on Area 51M right now. I am a regular follower of Area 51M forum and I would say that Dell rushed out with Area 51M. Don't buy into hype like I did. Give it a little more time to see how Dell changes or upgrades the MB issues with Area 51M. Right now Dell is not acknowledging the problem and handling it case by case basis.

    Overall, GT76 and Area 51M would give you more bang for your buck due to desktop cpu parts and nearly identical desktop gpu. But its your decision and you will not go wrong with G703GX either.
     
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    A friend wanted to buy my G703VI (7820HK and GTX 1080) and I've been wanting to move on from a quad-core (with next-gen consoles having 8C Zen 2, I think quad-cores are going to be dead for gaming soon). Been tossing up 9700K (socketed) vs 8950HK laptops (I figure 8C/8T and 6C/12T is probably a wash). 8C/16T CPUs are just too hard to control I think.

    Yesterday I saw an amazing deal on the G703GX (i9 8950HK and RTX 2080) so I've decided to grab it. I'm sad that the integrated Xbox wireless is gone, and the 2 bricks are unfortunate. But I'm glad I stuck with the G703 as it has been the most painless laptop experience I've had, and I really like how ASUS allows up to 200W on the GPU, my 1080 ran like a beast and I think the 2080 will need the extra headroom. None of the socketed laptops I was looking at allow over 150W, except the Area-51M but they are going up in flames.

    I'll report back about the undervolting issue you guys have had, though hopefully this won't happen with an i9.
     
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    Voltage control seems to work fine out of the box, so that issue seems to be an 8750H problem only. So far everything is working great. Thermals on the 8950HK seem better than the 7820HK despite it pulling more power. I think this is a combination of bigger die on the 8950HK (more surface area), as well as more heatpipes on the CPU. The spikes on the 7820HK were pretty wild, this seems a fair bit more stable. I'm sitting at 4.3GHz at the moment and am content with that. Still have to tune the 2080.
     
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    Hello boys / girls :p

    So I’ve decided get the Asus Rog G703GXR.
    Mine spec:

    I9 9980HK ( Liquid metal )
    RXT 2080
    32GB DDR 4 @ 2666
    3x 512 GB M.2 NVME

    Can’t wait to receive it and should be here in some stage at this week :)
    I will post some Benchmark as soon as I can and come back with news about Temperatures :)
     
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    We have a new BIOS version on Asus website. I will flash later tonight.
    " cucubits" I had no more artifacts after playing multiple sessions which makes me to believe it was some random rendering issue.
     
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    Nice, I've been waiting for a bios update but gave up checking the website a while ago. I'm going to try to update it now too.

    I wish they'd provide a proper changelog though.
     
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    All good so far.

    Just an FYI, when updating the bios, don't panic if after it's done it reboots itself a few times. It's not a boot loop, leave it alone to do its thing.

    Haven't noticed anything different so far. Sleep cycle still needed for CPU voltage settings unlock.

    upload_2019-6-5_21-47-34.png
     
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    Thought my RTX 2080 was faulty - was getting constant crashes to desktop and a BSOD during Anthem. I can barely play 10 mins before it crashes. But Division 2 works fine so I'm assuming Anthem is just a technical mess at the moment.

    Curious as to what changed in bios 302. I never installed any new bios on my VI, I stayed at 301 the whole time. I really wish they published changelogs.
     
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    Strange, I've also been playing Anthem for a while and I haven't had any crashes. The GPU temps are a little bit higher than other games but not by much. It stays under 80C.
     
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    I’m going to try dial back my CPU undervolt and give it another go. -125mV is as far as I’ve gone though and it works for everything else. Apparently it’s quite sensitive to undervolting just from some reading. I never had problems with it before though.
     
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    Yep, I've had it stable for a long time but in A Plague Tale: Innocence it would keep freezing. I ended up with really stable undervolt values now, albeit they're not too high:

    upload_2019-6-6_15-1-26.png
     
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    Aah cool I might give -100mV a go then as well. If it keeps crashing I’ll have to re-evaluate my GPU undervolt.

    Also, if you leave your notebook idle and let the screen turn off, do you notice in Afterburner that every now and then the GPU dipped to 0c when you go back into Afterburner? This is in G-Sync mode, and I have external monitors attached. What’s weird is Hwinfo doesn’t show dips to 0c, so I don’t think the GPU is actually turning off.
     
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    No, I haven't noticed these dips.

    This is how mine looks when it wakes up from sleep. Just the CPU freq dips but that's expected I guess as the monitoring modules get initialized.

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    Oh I mean running but screen off. I can replicate it by setting my screen to turn off after 1 min of idle. When I shake the mouse to bring the screen back I can see the dips to 0. So computer on, screen off (due to idle).

    Edit: this is likely what the BIOS update was for https://www.asus.com/News/ydnx3oksbzcswrmh
     
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    After winding my undervolt back a bit Anthem seems fine. Temps are good so probably no point trying to squeeze every single millivolt out of it.

    edit: Attached is what I'm talking about with MSI Afterburner. In red is where the monitor turns off due to idle (I set it to turn the screen off after 1 min of idle in Windows power management to test this).

    [​IMG]

    Can someone else verify this happens?
     
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    Mine does not do this. Tried it yesterday. Both CPU/GPU temps are shown without dips and monitor does the sleep wake thing.
     
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    Thanks for checking. I've noticed mine will sometimes do it and sometimes not. I ran a log with nvidia-smi and the weirdness seems to be with the p-state. It will go from P8 to unknown error for a second, then go back to P8. But the clocks remain the same, so that confirms the GPU isn't actually switching off. It doesn't seem to be affecting stability in any way, so might just be a driver oddity. I will check again when the next driver is out. I have multiple external monitors, so I also might also check with one of them disconnected. I know Turing had idle power consumption problems with multi-monitors that was supposedly fixed.
     
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    Hello people :)

    So mine beast is here :)
    I9 9980HK
    32GB RAM @ 2666
    RXT 2080 8GB
    3 x 512 M.2 SSD

    Will be test it at weekend, atm busy at work
     
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    Enjoy! Let us know how it goes. I am very interested in CPU temps. 8C/16T is too much IMO however LM may make it manageable.

    Edit: So bios 302 just got pushed to me via Windows Update. Since when has this been a thing? Install went fine at least.
     
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    Well I hope too that the LM will handle it , but still some tweaks will be needed , like undercoating the cpu , but I home not to much :)
    Well I will know soon anyway and leave you know guys :p
     
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    Hi everyone ! I'm planning to buy this laptop for work and VR/NON VR gaming, but now i'm interested how's it in vr? Any problems with connection? Max supersampling/comfort value of ss? FPS? GPU temps? In such games as: Pavlov, Skyrim, Elite Dangerous and etc. I'm going to buy Valve Index HMD (~ Vive Pro) and i'm interested your results :)
     
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    I'm about to buy this Asus Rog. My first Asus and my first notebook purchase in maybe 8-10 years since the diastrous Sony Vaio.
    First question: May I please ask -- what vendor(s) did you all use and do you have any good/bad vendor experiences? It's not like I can choose on price.
     
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    Hello :)
    I think the vendors depend on you country or region ,
    I am from Europe so here is different vendors at all :)
    Btw all the benchmark and feedback from the i9 will be this Sunday lads , was sick , so apologize but will be done :)
    Have a nice day
     
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    If I had the chance to do it all over again I would have waited for MSI GT76. I had last gen MSI TITAN GT73 VR with i7 6820HK and GTX 1080 MXM format GPU. Never had any issues with heat. Everything sat well bellow 75 degrees C out of the box.
    This time around I was impatient and wanted the RTX in laptop as fast as possible and Asus was first in my sight with cheaper RTX 2080. Plus I wanted something new. And Asus in my opinion has better desigh even if a bit outdated.
    Though it's not the best choise I don't regret it a bit. After a few things tweaked with the help from the members of this forum G703GX is way better than I tought it will be.
    Performance and stability is great. And for the price I don't think there is anything better even now 6 months later.
    But if I can was to give some advise, yeah MSI GT76 when out is the best option for a headache free experience out of the box. That's what I would buy over everything else, Area 51m or G703GXR. Msi really has the best cooling I experienced.
     
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    Hello All,

    I agree and disagree with @OvidiuM.
    I was newer a big Fan of MSI brand , but the new MSI GT76 Titan look awesome , I was thinking about him too , but lest start from start :)
    I had ASUS product from ages ago and now know the weakness already , and how the saying said, “Better know you enemy then ... “ so I preferred stay on something what I know , I try go to Alienware area 51m and I was very disappointed, should be a desktop replacement with 9900K and full desktop GPU and look how they end it , GPU VRAMs at mobos burn out so dell change the Watts settings from full desktop to something around 180 / 190 Watts , I think will be go down to 180 in few weeks time and stay there like a stable system .
    So at this time is only one Laptop with full desktop GPU and that is Asus G703GXR and yes there will be option on the market for MSI GT76 Titan what will be have better CPU ( i9 9900k vs i9 9980HK )
    In this case the different between the processor at Gaming in real world is not that much , if I will said 10 percent and I guess after right tweak will be less .
    Then let’s talk about price and quality , what I know about mine “ex dell” I paid at Europe 4299 Euros for i9 9900K , Nvidia 2080 ( should be 200 Watts but is not any more )
    32 GB DDR @2444
    M.2 Ssd 512 and 1TB hybrid HDD.
    The quality is not the best because mine one burn out , now I am a IT guy , for me is no problem repast ani chip or anything like that , the issue is that dell chose 6 Double VRAMs at Mobo instead of “single ones” and they charge for this premium build 4299Euro at Europe
    Now I return it and chose the Asus , why ? Because that time wasn’t the new MSI out yet , then I know Asus for
    Many Years, I know they need be repasted because they jobs is just “.... “ but after all of that the build quality is good and at this moment they are only the one company what put on market i9 9980HK with Liquid Metal on ( don’t talk now about vendors who.can do this for up you) this is just from the company out of the box plus the CPU have special cover around to keep the Liquid Metal at place and ATM is the only one desktop GPU what working safe at 200 Watts ( at least for me )
    Second think , don’t know how is work at USA, but over here ( Europe ) I newer had a issue with “bleeding screen” at mine Asus ( for last 5 years I had 5 different ones )
    And then the last think “Price”
    The MSI will be start with best spec around 4500 euros in Europe,
    What will be I 9 9900K plus 2080 and 32 GB Ram @2666 and don’t know the HDD
    Mine Asus what is I9 9980HK 2080 full 200 Watts GPU , 32 GB DDR 4 @2666 and 3 x M.2 NVMe SSD in Raid 0 ( 3 x 512 ) plus 5 years warranty cost me less then 4000 Euros :)
    So for me for a 10 less power and better build quality ( Asus vs Dell ) I cannot chose better .
    Don’t know the MSI , we will see, but at least I know what I get and I am happy with it :)
    Sorry for long post and for errors , write it at job :D

    Regards
    Scorpik
     
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    Indeed the G703GXR is a powerfull laptop. And like others here I believe Asus's only problem is cooling. I owned Asus before Rog 752vs with GTX 1070 and that too had thermal issues.
    With or without liquid metal I think bigger air vents are the only thing missing. I will take the time to start moding the bottom cover. Without the cover under full load the temps are about 5 degrees lower on my system with regular arctic mx-4 paste.
     
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    I was planning on doing this as well. The intake grills on the bottom cover seem way too small for the amount of air it moves. I just wanted to wait for a little while longer to make sure everything is working.
     
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