M15x + ATI 5870 (MOD)

hmm could you go more indepth?

I installed the 2209Wc driver I assume it knew what resolutions it could do

 

well I did that powerstrip thing, and I could display 1680x1050 but only at 30Hz and it looked like hammered garbage

Pretty frustrating....what monitor do you guy(s) use? I'm just going to get something else

 

personally i like 1080p or 1200 screens.

 

This is the driver/inf file for the Dell 2209WA; I see no 2209Wc on the Dell site: Drivers and Downloads.

Once downloaded, follow the installation process set forth here: 2209WA Monitor - Downloading Driver - Monitors Forum - Peripherals - Dell Community

If the 2209Wc is different, you'll need to download that file; the installation instructions will be the same. Good luck. These are odd because they come up so rarely for most people.

 

Yeah I have the monitor driver installed. Still came up with weird resolutions

Did the same with the E207WFP, still came up with weird resolutions. Right now I'm using 1440x900 since it maintains the 1.6 ratio and comes out cleanest.

 

Sorry I couldn't help. If the monitor.inf file does not define the available resolutions and refresh rates, I don't know how else you do it.

 

yeah it's just weird, like powerstrip program let me do 1680x1050 but it looked all retarded

 

yeah some of the settings might be wrong for that res, havn't used it in years (it's an old app back from the days of CRT and win98). problem is unless you can find the exact specs of the monitor and the correct settings for the 1680x1050 res, it will look strange... and mucking around with the settings without knowing what they do or their limits is playing with fire.

 

Hi, inap

Since I'm looking for an upgrade to the GTX 260M, I contacted babyhemi about the 5870. He then redirected me to you here.

So is the 5850 and the 5870 truly identical except for the clock speed?

Thanks in advance

 

I'd get a Dell 5850m over a Clevo 5870m.

clock speed is the only thing different...and the clock speed can easily be OC'd to match the 5870m... and even surpass it by quite abit.

Also, Dell 5850's allow you to:

1. Use audio over display port. this doesn't work on clevo cards.
2. Powermizer works on Dell cards, so you won't have to manually down-clock the 5870m when on the desktop, it'll do it for you automatically.

And in general... the dell cards are more stable, OC better, and run cooler if i'm not mistaken

 

everything Jstarino said is true, your best bet is to buy the dell 5850. it's around $300ish, but comes with warranty and a tech will come by to install it for you also.

i have had both and the dell card out performs the clevo 5870 in almost every aspect.

 

yup, pretty much sums it up.
if you're overclocking or want sound over dp... go for the dell ver.

i can't break 900mhz core without increasing the voltage to dangerous levels (1.2v)

whereas inap's reached what? 980?
i'm green with envy!!!!!

oh there is one more thing, the clevo's run with pci-e 1.1 not 2.0... not an issue since its not bandwidth capped, however just a heads up.

 

actually its now 990 with the v2 bios @ 1.15v
muhahahahahaha

but memory capped around 1150. and 985 seem to be my sweet spot for benching. 990 is hit or miss sometimes.

 

arrrrrrgh!!!!!!!
*foaming at the mouth*

hehe gl in hitting the magical 1k mark sooooo close but yet so far.

 

I am sure he could hit it, just not bench stable.

And he has done some disgustingly good benching haha

 

yeah i think i may have to bump it up to the danger zone @ 1.2v for a possible 1k run. think i have to wait till the cold season to come first, heheheh

 

CHEST FREEZER!

It is cold year round

Did all my records in July hehe

 

geez really!!!! hahahaha
man that is extreme!!!
i do have a chest freezer but is it dangerous?

 

CC warranty removes all danger....BENCH AWAY

 

hahaha thats true. thanks faiz
wonder what my wife will think when she see's my laptop in the freezer with the pork chops, hehehehe

 

No risk as long as you are smart. Here is what you need to know:

1. Do not leave the laptop off in the freezer, if it gets too cold it will not boot
2. Turn the laptop off when you take it out of the freezer and leave it off for 5-6 hours to "defrost" since it will be cold and attract condensation (which kills stuff - my first ssd died this way). Need to let that evaporate off before it is safe
3. Bench the bejeezus out of it!

Now that we have ThrottleStop the limiting factor for the i7 cpus is definitely the temps. Your GPU should like the cooler temperatures as well.

You will obviously need an external monitor and mouse and keyboard. I also recommend the use of a kill-a-watt for monitoring power use as this has helped me in benching. If you need help feel free to ask!

For inspiration
http://forum.notebookreview.com/ali...enchmark-thread-part-3-a-363.html#post6440029

 

holy crap!!!! gonna need a whole day for this kinda benching, hehehe
normally i just do a run or two when i have some free time.

definitely gonna hit you up for more pointers, wished there were more people benching, some competition will gave me more drive to go all out.

 

Your competition is (well....was ) the entire G73 world haha

Nothing wrong with wanting to just go as high as possible!

And ya, when the freezer gets involved it becomes a time investment. If you want to keep your options open, just leave it in the freezer all the time always on so it does not get too cold. Then you can pop over and run a bench when you feel like it lol. That is what I do during the day when the GF is over. At night it is focus time haha (no distractions )

 

hahahaha i think by the time i break all the records, i'll be divorced hahaha
my wife already thinks i spend too much time on the computer already.

 

The females never understand. My girlfriend who I have been with for almost 4 years thinks I love my computers more than her haha (maybe because I went from one laptop to 2 laptops, a desktop, and a htpc since I met her lol - and you can see the desktop in my sig )

 

yeah your desktop is a beast, thinking of building one myself too.

 

It is finally at a point where I think I can leave it alone part wise for a while haha (although I did just order a new keyboard for it.....)

Just played through Crysis at 1920x1200 all Very High (although for the very last scene on the deck of the carrier I did have to step it down to just high - but who doesn't haha - that scene is sick)

 

DUDE 990?? AND CHEST FREEZERS? lol benching is getting out of whack!! I LOVE IT! lolll

You can bet your arse off that when i get my M17x....i'll be benching that Mofo's 5870 to make sure its on par with mine (i doubt it), in which case i will be making a swap

 

Love thy chest freezer!

It is really the simplest and most effective cooling mod you can do lol

 

hahaha i don't even bother running crysis at high, i just run it at medium for the most part. i rather get better fps, plus my eyes are getting old i can't see the details anyways, hehehe

 

i tried to get a friend to make me a custom ac notebook cooler, but we added up all the parts and it was like $800. maybe one day when i win the lotto or something, heheheh

 

The game still looks great at medium. I just did it to say that I could lol (and I was averaging about 50 fps anyway)

 

Ya cooling projects can add up very quickly. The watercooling in my desktop was originally supposed to be about $250 to $300.....so $650 later I had a sick watercooling loop installed lol

At least it looks good

 

holy jebus!!! that thing looks crazy. now toss that into the freezer and see what it can do, hehehehe

 

That is what john said lol

If it were not for the need to stay upright for the loop to work right and the fact that I only have distilled water as the coolant I might have haha

Probably better that I have not. I actually still need to overclock it, have not gone anywhere with this cpu yet. Took the 920 before it to 4.53 GHz though Should be able to beat that some with the extreme chip since binned higher. Unfortunately the GPUs will not have nearly as much headroom, since it is mATX they are sandwiched and the in FurMark at least, they both get up to the low 90s

 

ahahahha thanks for the help scook, now i will never look at a freezer the same way again, hehehe

time to go spend some time with the wifey, she's gaving me the evil eye right now, hahaha

 

hahaha you guys are awesome! And that Desktop water cooling system looks sick! Very nice setup Scook!

I usually just have something like this thing (not that exact model) modded to a large tube that blows cold air into the vents to keep things at a cool works like a charm... 25,000 btu doesn't let ya down
How to Use Portable AC Units Properly?

 

I have looked at portable AC units but kept telling myself they are too expensive....then I do things like watercool my desktop and buy a 2nd gpu and upgrade to a ssd.....I guess I will actually end up getting one soon enough lol

Sure as hell be easier than using a chest freezer!

 

lol, except for the SSD and the CPU, we have the same desktop

On another note, I keep a large 40" fan blowing air INTO my room. I dunno if that qualifies as a swamp cooler

 

I have a box fan in my chest freezer....lol (not 40" but pretty large)

The CPU was a deal, got it for $365! And the ssd is a new addition - was time for a fresh install of Windows 7 anyways (had the ugliest vista install known to man....went through like 4 motherboards and as many cpus with many different gpus all on the same install lol)

 

wait... do you literally put your desktop into a large freezer!?

 

Scook quick question, I know you've probably benched your laptop in the freezer with the scores you've pulled. Have you had any issues with the lcd in the freezer or do you think it could potentially cause a problem?

 

The LCD has worked like a champ despite the thorough cooling. Never had to think about it at all. And no, the desktop has not gone in the freezer. The laptop goes on that fan haha

I have never had any issues with the screen at all. There is no reason for there to be a problem either. The liquid crystal is not water, so if it freezes it wont expand. So as soon as it melts all is well again. I do not think it is even freezing though in my case as the screen has worked fine when I needed it while in the freezer

 

If you guys are ordering 5850 by the case are you planning on trying a stock 5870 vbios to see if it has any advantages?

Also thanks to everyone and Jstarnino on how to flash the vbios. I took mine to 700x1000 @1.05 (stock 5870).

Thanks,

StevenX

 

no problem buddy you can take it much higher though ( ~800) without your 5850 breaking a sweat.

and if you really want to push it... you can flash it to a higher voltage n all that, n make it reach 990 like Inap did ... but thats just for benching braggin rights...

 

@Jstarnino - I just changed my 5850 to 5870 values because I knew it was a safe overclock. How high, for gaming, were you able to take the 5850 with voltage @1.05? Thanks! StevenX

 

I run my 5850 at 750/1050 default clocks, but 800/1075 is equally workable. There is no universally "safe" overclock, but I would be amazed if you have any issues at either of those settings for gaming purposes. On the other hand, even relatively little increased stress makes no sense unless you see performance benefits resulting in improved game play. Just keep an eye on temps, if they rise past 80C, cut it back a little for sustained use.

 

Yea please keep in mind, that an Overclock while gaming is rarely worth it... because often, an increase of 3-5fps translates to an increase of 20*C on the gpu...

But OC'ing is diffrent on every system, and every game... so you'd have to experiment for yourself. But like Rev said, ppl usually go for a slight OC to run games, as you want to make sure that its super stable if your gaming, and you don't want your temps to skyrocket... and gaming for hours already can heat up your gpu quite abit at stock so... bette rmonitor those temps! just a couple things to keep in mind... but generally.. 750-800 shouldn't be a problem both stable wize, and temperature wise. But remember any OC will degrade the gpu quicker. How much quicker, well thats where everyone has their diffrent opinions...

 

To clarify - review the terms of what complete care is - it covers drops and spills - NOT overclocking or any other intentional misuse.

To those who are new to dell and dell policies, i suggest you review the terms of your warranty before jumping on the bandwagon. Be aware, if you cause damage, its not covered - by any warranty.

Complete Care is Accidental Damage coverage with in-home/on-site service. Details can be found here:
http://www.dell.com/downloads/global/services/Accidental_Damage_Services_Contract_6_21_10.pdf

Main warranty/policies can be found here:
http://www.dell.com/content/topics/...service_map?c=us&cs=555&l=en&s=biz&redirect=1

We will not debate here (on NBR) what Dell can 'detect' or check for as it relates to fraud. NBR has a very strict policy against fraud and any posts related to fraud discussion will be removed and mod action up to perm ban will result. There will be no warnings.

Any questions, PM me or another moderator.

Now, get back on topic please... enough of exchanges, replacements and the M17x - we have threads for that. Posts unrelated to post#1 are OT.


Thanks.

 

can someone do a youtube of this for us noobie?? i def wanna try this when i buy one which is probaly 2 months from now??