M15x + ATI 5870 (MOD)

Just a update on temps after a long long gaming night Saturday night (almost 6-7 hours straight!).

Desktop/Windows use browsing, etc. (Clocks set to 200/300)

min: 49c
Avg: 54c
max: 57c

Desktop/Windows use browsing, etc. (Clocks set to 700/1000 default)

min: 59c
Avg: 60c
max: 63c

Gaming Bad Company 2 / Metro 2033 (Clocks set to 700/1000 default)

min: 61c
Avg: 78c
max: 87c

Again those temps are calculated over 6-7 hours of continuous use with AMD GPU tool running constantly monitoring. Laptop stayed completely stable and cool. Room temps where a little warmer than 22c (72-73F).

 

That's impressive! I guess the M15x was made for the 5870...

 

Agreed perfect match if you ask me. Oh and I would recommend the 10.6 drivers over the current 10.3 release drivers, much faster with dx11 (metro 2033) and also fixes the annoying slow loading (hanging) on bad company 2 multiplayer.

My friend who came over let me run the temp monitors on his laptop (Asus G73jh) while gaming in bad company 2 and he actually saw a hotter average temp and about the same max temp with bad company 2.

 

What the process to update new driver for ATI Card?

 

If only we could compare the 5870 to the 4870 in the M15X... Anyways, soon we will have members from here with the M17X equipped with the 5870 and we will be able to compare...

 

a single 4870 score from the M17x R2 is perfectly comparable to an M15x.....

 

Who ran test of just a single 4870 M17X? It would be really interesting to see the true increase in performance with the 5870.

 

Can you not just turn off XF and run a benchmark?

 

I do not have an R2, I have an R1 with a core 2 but yes, just turning off CF is all that is needed

 

AN OC'ed Single 4870 is comparable or exceed a stock ATi 5870

Single
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A single 5870 is a hair faster than a OC'ed single 4870. Now a overclocked 5870 pulls close to 10,000 on the GPU score default settings. (borrowed from The Revelator)



Now take into account that 3dmark Vantage is a Direct X 10 bench, wait until 3dmark's Direct X 11 bench things will completely change (and most of it won't run on a 4870). Heaven bench is a greater comparison tool considering it's built around the new DX11 features and optimizations curious to see both of them compared side by side. Note that Heaven in DX10 with the desktop class cards was faster on a 5870 single vs 4870x2 Crossfire (curious to get comparisons on the mobile cards).



Find it odd though a desktop 5870 vs a desktop 4870x2 Crossfire setup still comes out with the 5870 on top. I thought the 4870 mobile was a downclocked/less stream version of a 4870 desktop card (as the 5870 is a downclocked/less stream version as well)?



EDIT: Just took a look over at notebookcheck and it looks like the 5870m and the 4870m both share the same exact 800 unified stream pipes giving them pretty equal performance in that respect (though the 5870 adds DX11 and newer core optimizations). Interesting note is that the 5870m has 128-bit memory bus width where as the 4870m has a 256-bit memory bus width meaning it has double the GB/S throughput. Why would ATI intentionally release a newer generation with half the memory throughput?

 

Yeah and let's not forget tangtang2002's score. Over 10,000 will happen this week I shall predict in a M15x.......Rengsey R. H. Jr.....or..

 

Saw that too. Then I saw it was 3dMark05..and notebookcheck.net

 

It isn't odd at all. The desktop 5870 is a monster, way beyond anything we'll get in the mobile world for the foreseeable future.

Comparison of desktop 4870 vs 5870:



The Mobility 5870, despite its name, is actually based directly from the desktop 5770.

The Mobility 5870 utilizes GDDR5, which closes the gap between 128 vs 256.

The reason? 256-bit + GDDR5 is too hot and consumes too much power to fit in notebooks. Maybe we'll see it when GPUs go 28nm.

 

now we know the 4870 is 256-bit memory bus width but AMD GPU wiki and other places list it as having GDDR3,GDDR4,GDDR5 depending on application. One would assume the Alienware module is GDDR5 (assuming they would get the quickest). From what I've read looks like the GDDR5 version never went into production (probably due to thermal design issues). One would wonder do we benefit from GDDR5 greater than the extra memory bus width?

 

Yeah, close when stock.

I managed 9600 GPU with my 5870 oc'd

 

You and/or your friend are wrong as the GDDR5 4870's are a unicorn and do NOT exist. lol

It would have been so nice if Dell actually used GDDR5 with the 4870's but they stuck with GDDR3.

 

Yeah he has money to blow on the most expensive laptops at the time but he doesn't know how to read GPU-Z correctly LOL! I did my homework (quick google search) and immediately changed it, you lurk too much sleey0 (didn't get time to fix it in like two minutes of posting lol!)

 

Lurk? lol

Its all good. Just trying to set things straight as people like to spew misinformation around here sometimes.

 

I couldn't think of another term lol, anyways yeah I'm not one of them (reason why I double checked his statement lol)

 

Say, have you joined the M15x benchmarks thread?

We need more people to post scores so we can fill up the score sheet that dr650 is working on.

 

@Sleey

 

Moo hit 10K GPU...go for it!

 

For purposes of comparison, at stock clocks, a 920XM/5870m setup will score about P8,850 3dMarks in Vantage, whereas 920XM/4870CF computers average around P12,000, about 35% higher. I love my 5870,, but for 3d performance, there is just no substitute for dual cards in CF or SLI.

 

I can't seem to get past my current 9600 vantage gpu.

Any tips, oh benchmark king

 

Not yet but I do plan on getting my o/c hat on and start playing

 

Put your M15x in a freezer.

 

Didn't he use a freezer to hit 10k?

 

Wow joker gtfo my thread

 

Made me lol

I don't think it is a system power issue, but the card might need a bump in voltage.

I just don't like to flash all that much when the card has ZERO warranty

 

The freezer is overrated. Put it in the microwave.

 

microwave ftw!

 

Will it blend?!?

 

More like "will it fit?"

 

Sure.

I have seen commercial blenders that would fit an M17x

Although the aluminum chassis might be a little tough to chew.

 

Use minimal hardware and as much cooling as you can give it.

 

Probably have to cheat and remove all our awesome alien aluminum (like they did on the iPad.. CHEATERS!!)

 

I'm putting your future M17x in the freezer right now next to the sirloin.

 

Yo, this thread is moving light wild fire.

Yikes!

 

I sure do love sirloin *mmmm*. Two great things in one place seems like a win to me!

Oh yeah the 5870 rules the m15x bad company 2 loves max settings, native res, max aa/af and silky smooth frames!

 

Moo used the freezer for his PS because the system was using like a 85W PS (yes I'm exaggerating). You need to get the GPU's cool. TheCodeBreaker is the one who puts his whole system in a freezer.

 

TheMarkness, do you regret not getting the 1080p version of the m15x? I'm deciding which to get. I was thinking if I was going 1080p or above, I would get the M17x but the RGB monitor is 190 UK pounds more .

 

I would get the higher res just for resale value.

 

1080 or 1200 is a must for me.

 

I got my 1 of 2 m15x in today and need help.

O.k. , can someone help me figure out how to remove the vent bezel to remove the heatsink easily? I removed all the surrounf screws , heatsink screws... and it's tough to pull out the heatsink. I don't want to break anything...

 

Remove the battery. Remove the 2 outer screws (theres 4, remove one from each far side). Remove the touch panel, becareful cuz theres a small wire that connects it to the mobo. There are two screws the hold on the vent, and one of the bottom side of the computer. THen you can remove the heatsink easily.

 

i made a guide a few days ago, its in my sig if you want it.

 

After 2 hours of L4D2 maxed out

 

hey sleey0 what is each sector representing my middle one is kinda high right now.

 

OCP15K not one bit! I can't stand to game outside of native resolution and judging that I want this thing to last a good bit I rather not have to worry about gaming Crysis 2 @ 1920x1200 or whatever ridiculous resolution that is. I do like the higher resolution on the desktop but 1600x900 is plenty high enough for my tastes. Now a M17x may be a little different if you plan on running crossfire cards (much more horsepower for that resolution).

InappropriateName_3, If I remember correctly TSS0/2 correspond to circuit board temp and something else I can't remember and the TSS1 refers to the actual GPU core temp.