Blacks Ops, All M11x Revisions

Sweet, Hopefully they do something. Waiting on feed back from you guys before I spend the $60 to buy this.

 

that was fast. But would it be enough for our r1 and r2?

 

I havent tried the new patch but I'm hoping it will help.. Im getting 15-30 fps on my r1 while i get 30-45 on MW2..

Hope the keep releasing patches constantly until its fixed for good!

Alex

 

yeah i hope the same but they will forget us after a month or two. Btw could you post your results after the new patch? <=D

 

Ok folks.. Just picked it up. I dont have time for an entire (continued optimization) post this late... Like many others have said it's cpu hungry. Please make sure you first start by setting steam to start the game in safe mode. Set all levels to low or disabled first. Try updating the multiplayer config file. Make sure cpu is set to multithread and you can try the gpu as well to see if it helps. I was able to play online and with bots (combat mode) at over 80fps most times on the m15x (settings high/extra/2aa/2af). For the R1 guys, what have you done to optimize? Are you using gamebooster? Are you optimizing your startup? Are you overclocking your cpu in bios (set to enabled)? Best Wishes, StevenX

 

okay after the update
i was able to get 40FPS in MP

 

Your spec would be useful.

 

my spec is in my sig. R2. I have 30 - 40 fps when playing. I have AA at 8x. Everything else is set to automatic. Screen size is 1366 x 768. Vertical sync off...


Runs really smoothly! If AA is turned off, it was around 40 fps -60fps



- edit: also for some reason setting AA at 4x gives me the black screen...

a way around it MIGHT (havent tested) is to set the AA on the whitelist to 4x and then in game put "off" ? not sure if this will work though. 16x worked fine with an avg of 20-30 fps

 

I tied aax4 in control panel still black screen. Like u said already x16 is fine

 

I'm R1 user, OCed and under the Dell 197 hybride driver. Just turn off the Sound Occlusion (something like it under the sound settings), 4AA no VSynch, and everything else automatique, and it's PLAYABLE. Not yet tried the MP fix.

 

is that true? fps? but the MP should not take more resources than the SP. then I will buy it for sure this weekend

 

im hitting 20-30fps on average, max of 60ish depending on where i am on a map

no stuttering no mouse lag after the update, seems pretty good



I'll keep trying out tweaks though to see if i can maximise stuff

 

StevenX, I got R1(U7300) 4gb mem and 500gb HD and did the following.
I only did the normal clean up of start ups and processes/services to minimum. No gamebooster. Microsoft Security Essentials still running as well. Bios is overclocked (enabled). Latest Dell hybrid graphics drivers.

Before that small patch yesterday, I could not even play SP with ALL LOW settings, it just was incredibly laggy. MP I was able to play but lag spikes galore.

After the small patch was applied, it is literally night and day. I unfortunately did not check to see my FPS, but I personally don't care about that number, I just want a "playable" game for SP and MP and I got to say it is quite smooth now.

SP I can play almost with no jittering, just some slight hiccups from time to time, but definitely playable and acceptable to me. My settings are all default aside from shadows "off" and bodies "small". Resolution is sett to native 1366x768.

MP has improved incredibly! Almost smooth in all maps and scenarios.

I mean in MW2 SP and MP was just like butter and everything at MAX. I just hope with an official big patch, Treyarch will make it playable just like MW2.
Hope this helps anyone.

*update*
If I may RANT a bit, but the MOUSE SENSITIVITY is awful. If I put the settings to lowest, it is just not sensitive enough, but when I put it on the 1mm next setting, it is almost too much! TreyArch next patch MUST include a mouse sensitivity update.
Or does someone know somehow in console to edit in minute increments?

Thanks!

 

@Beo - It is a risk but all virus software needs to be disabled while playing games. Yes, I know it's a risk but the R1 does NOT have enough horsepower to run virus scans and games. If you are playing and the virus software decides it wants to utilize some cpu cycles to spot scan or check a threat guess what, your game just tanked.

To minimize the risk, do not attempt to surf or download while the virus software is disabled. Just stick to gaming only and then re-enable your software after gaming is complete.

I know BATBOY may chime in to re-iterate the risk but the R1 needs all the cpu it has for gameplay. And please please please dont misunderstand what I am saying here. I stress the need for Anti-virus software... I just dont want it active during gameplay. Be careful and keep optimizing. It's a busy workday so I haven't had time for more tests.. my guess is that the R1 is capable of pulling a steady 30fps in MP without issue. You may also want to utilize gamebooster. If you want a full write up of how to optimize your R1 please search for BFBC2 R1 optimization. Thanks, StevenX

 

I'm R1 user, i set all graphics setting to high or extra, can play with smooth, guys try it?

 

For those with ultra with 8x AA, how are the graphics compared to MW2? Unfortunately on the PS3, the only downside is that the graphics have taken a dive.

 

Black Ops is running smooth on my R1 now with the new Optimization patch. Uploading a video to YouTube and will post it ASAP.

*edit: posted two posts down.*

 

After installing the new patch I'm impressed! Now it runs smoothly at 30-40 fps with few or no hiccups

Just so you know im running it on an r1 2gb ram, core 2 duo 1.33 ghz... Now i cant wait to get 4gb of ram!!

Alex

 

YouTube Video of R1 post-Optimization

Enjoy. Good Luck!

 

Thanks!! definitely i will see you IN GAME tomorrow early also im going to try some optimization and post my results now downloading since it doesnt seems like a waste of money

 

CoD black ops seems to be poorly optimized into using alot of cpu, anyhow here are some settings to get some fps boosts:
Goto Console and :
r_multiGpu 0
r_multithreaded_device 1
cl_max packets 100
cg_drawfps 1 (instead of using FRAPS, use this so that all cpu usage can go towards black ops)
Now goto your nvidia panel and set your setting to Performance, click the global settings tab and change the value of Maximum pre-rendered frames to 0.

Hope this helps anyone wanting smoother gameplay.

 

Thanks! This helped alot. In addition to the patch this keeps me at a solid 40-60fps on my R1!

 

what do you mean by "set your setting to Performance"? Everything else I found, but not this.

thanks for the tips!

Alex

 

Do you have to do this each time you start Black Ops?

 

@Iris - Great write up. Glad you were able to get it working for you.

Bw, StevenX

 

how do you fix the black screen problem for single player?

 

In your nvidia panel if you goto Adjust image settings with preview, click Use my preference emphasizing: Performance

No, it stays this way until you manually change it to otherwise, or uninstall or reformat.

Screenshots of task manager, + the black screen if you can and in more detail what occurs during the black screen? what happens afterwords? does it stay like that?

 

Blackscreens are anti-aliasing related. Change setting to Intel integrated to get into single player, then change AA to either 2x or 8x. 4x AA seems to be problematic. Afterwards, switch back to Nvidia GPU.

 

It's much quicker to just start the game in safe mode. Once in the game menu, you can adjust graphic settings and from then on the Nvidia card will recognize anything

I'm bummed to see people still having problems. I haven't payed much attention to this thread since my initial post once the patch was released yesterday.

The M11x is murdering this game so well for me that I haven't even bothered to try to play it on my more powerful systems. My M11x has made Call of Duty: Black Ops my biznatch

I'm having so much fun with this game it's totally erased my BFBC2 blues faster than if a Victoria's Secret Model picked me up right after getting dumped by some square, nookie only once a month, makes me only watch reality TV, nag of a girlfriend.

I'm just having too much fun knowing I'm playing a new Call of Duty game at full blast on such a tiny and portable system

 

Wow, that sounds great... But for me I just simply cannot enjoy the singleplayer on my m11x r1... My friend installed his black ops on mine m11x, and during singleplayer the framerates often drops to around 20, and that is after the patch... I wonder what the multiplayer fps would be like...

 

Your sig says you've already got your CPU oc'ed, maybe try oc'ing the GPU? I know the game is CPU heavy, but if that takes the load off..

Did you try disabling shadows in the in game graphics settings? This can help performance a lot.

Bummer, if that doesn't help. Well, I'm sure trying that and Steven's tricks may help get it to playable settings. If Modern Warfare 2 plays okay on your system then SP Black Ops should as well. They're the same engine, essentially.

Well, at least you can go play BCBF2 without any PunkBuster Optimus issues and have an extra 3 hours of battery to do it with too!

I'd wager there will be another patch that will get the game playable.

 

Yeah, I did... shadow off bullet impact off, it works great during cutscenes corpses tiny... I just tried the single player, I don't want to go to multiplayer yet, since im playing on my friends account ..what is your fps during multiplayer games? It gets really laggy when there are loads of people... This is just crazy

 

Im getting
"fatal error" after a couple minutes in and usually causes me to hardboot the m11x.

 

Well, if I'm plugged directly into my router, I can usually get high 30-40's. It fluctuates, but not enough to affect play. So far no lag, but I'm managing to find games with really low ping for myself.

I'm gonna try playing at stock CPU and GPU settings and see how much of a hit it takes.

 

Im really at my wits end here. I have tried absolutely everything said on these / steam / blackops (official) forums I've changed graphics settings, every single console setting mentioned, i've updated my drivers (I seem to be WORSE off after doing this) turned off steam cloud, changed the steam / black ops priorities in the task manager and im overclocked with discrete graphics settings on.

Nothing has helped me at all wether I have everything on the lowest settings or run everything at high (maxed lags me more) I get exactly the same resuts.

Max 30 fps outdoors (when nothings happening no gunfire / explosions or anything) when firing or when grenades go off i dip to the 20s and it doesnt come back from that until im out of all kind of combat. Inside it IS a little bit better I actually go up to around 60 fps then (Unless alots going on around me then its the same as outside) but when I start firing or grenades go off it dips to around 20-40fps.

Im honestly considering just shelving this game until latter patches are applied as I cannot go on playing like this.

Also after installing my new drivers im getting a new kind of lag where even though my fps is the same as mentioned above im lagging ALOT more literally 2-3 second delays on all of my actions (This isnt latency lag either I was monitoring my Ping and it was going from 40-60)

The drivers I'm currently running are the 260.99 nvidia ones and im on the R1.

(Edit: I'm also running gamebooster)

 

Alrighty, seems like your having alot of trouble so I'll try to do my best. K first off don't use task manager to make it a higher priority, leave it as it is, next use the console figs I've mentioned, now go into the settings and set it to default, then set no AA, No vsync, 1366x768, Low texture, Bilinear? I think its called, No shadow, no bullet impact. Afterwords, if your playing and you feel sluggish type : snd_restart, IF you must, and don't over use it it resets I believe sound? and for some reason flushes out the cpu.

Also, DONT use programs like gamebooster, fraps, xfire whatnot, leave it to the Basic Basics, goto msconfig if you have to and turn off anything that might take process power. Also its important that you use this command: r_multithreaded_device 1

if that doesn't work I have no idea lol. I don't even have my m11x anymore so don't know if I can help you any further.

 

Heya, thanks for trying to help. I have unfortunately already tried everything you have suggested with no result. I think the only hope I have at this point is waiting for a patch to be released that hopefully will fix my issues.

 

How do I bring up the console in game? I'm pressing ` but nothing happens...

 

enable it in settings, to allow console.

 

I have optimized a lot. I can tell you 100 percent positive that there is still lag issues. No doubt. It's still really bad on some low ping servers. So... optimize, play and just "bear" with the lag. Very disappointed in Treyarch though. Very disappointed. StevenX

 

During the single player campaign, sometimes when there are mass actions, my m11x simply can't handle it. I just hope I can play some decent multiplayer on my r1, thank you! I heard the multiplayer uses less power, which is a good news for me And same with you, I just hope they patch this up later, I am now hesitating between pc version and the ps3 version...

 

Thank you for this, now i am able to check my fps during sp, and here are the results:
For r1:
High texture
no shadow
no bullet impact
no antialiasing
1366*768
no sync every frame
texure filtering bilinear
number of corpses tiny

It works great indoors and it doesn't go down with a few enemies normally 30 or up
but when it comes to lots of enemies and explosions then the fps will drop to about 15

Now ill just wait for someone to tell me how well mp in r1 works...

 

Uh... Can else anyone try the priority settings on Task Manager and tell me if that makes a difference? I set Steam to low and Black Ops to high and I really don't see any improvement. :|

I'm getting as low as 20 fps without CPU or GPU OC. I've tried every optimization suggested.

Native res, no AA, auto textures, shadows on and tiny corpses. :|

 

I have almost the exact same M11x setup as you and I can get 45fps constant if I set my fsb to 166 in Bios and enable TS. 166fsb is not really stable on my rig, in that I do get a BSOD randomly in once every few hours, but it seems to happen more on the desktop or when using the Intel HD GPU, so if it's in a game and using the 335m it's pretty much stable. I'm hoping a ram upgrade to a quality 8gb will get me a stable 166 as it has for others.

So I'm using it for this game, but will go to my stable 160fsb if it the BSOD's get worse. 160fsb is very playable and this is while keeping the GPU at stock clocks.

So, what you need to do is forget all the other stuff you've been doing. Set your FSB in your Bios under overclocking as high as it can go. Get and Enable Throttle Stop with a TCD/TDP overide of 8 and a power limit of 200. Keep the gpu at stock clocks.

Fire the game up in safe mode so that you don't get the Optimus Black Screen of no return, and once in the 800x600 screen, set your graphics and resolution using the in game menu, disable AA, Turn off Shadows, leave textures and filtering at Automatic, set Bullet Holes to Yes and Bodies to Medium (or make the last two lower if you want)

Optimus and the 335m will recognize these settings from now on unless you change them or allow the computer to detect your Hardware, bringing you back to the Black Screen of No Return

If the game is patched it should be very playable at this point as long as you can get an FSB setting over 150 I would think. I haven't tried anything lower than 160 and it screamed after that.

That is essentially all the adjustments the R2 users need to make. Finally OC the CPU as advertised. I really haven't checked any of the other posters config settings so I don't know if their stuff might conflict with this simple step, but I imagine it won't or shouldn't. But I guess you have to consider anything when optimizing or bug hunting.

If you're still having problems then the only other thing I can think of is the one variable that's different between your rig and mine and that is your 320HD via my 500HD in that, does your 320GB spin at 7200rpm? Or 5400rpm? If it's 5400rpm that may be the nagging difference. If your HD spins at 7200rpm like mine, then you can eliminate that variable as well too and your game should run great with as high as possible overclocked FSB in bios and ThrottleStop running to open up the cores and get the juice the game needs.

As for the R1 users, I really wish I could be of more help. Considering that the original R1's were demonstrated and advertised to run Crysis at decent settings and get 30FPS, and that being the gunkiest and most unoptimized game engine in modern PC gaming history (the real reason why you needed a beast of a rig to play it, not the very real and very sweet graphics and gameplay) - As well as play Modern Warfare 2 flawlessly with the exact same game engine as Black Ops - then you should at least find some comfort in knowing that the playability issues are definitely without a doubt due to poor developer optimization and not deficient hardware by any stretch of the imagination.

If you do have doubts, try playing MOH:2010 the SP campaign. As it uses the Unreal Engine instead of the Infinity Ward Call of Duty engine and is just as pretty (talking graphics engine not Art Direction) - You'll realize right away that your frustrations are completely the fault of not really Treyarch, but of Activision who pushed the developer to release the game by the scheduled release date no matter how ready it is or isn't (I've seen this first hand as a beta tester there years ago, before the evil Kotick Empire)

It's the game. Not the R1.

As for whether or not to get it on PC or Playstation 3? I can't confirm if it's true or not, but I thought I heard that Black Ops on PS3 might have PS MOVE support. Which may be a deciding factor in which platform to go with. As I have both PS Move and Wii, I can say that the Move is pretty cool when done right. And if done right with Black Ops, that may really be a fun experience. That being said, I've seen talkbackers on Kotaku say they've had major bug issues with the PS3 version as well on the article that addressed the PC problems and oncoming patch.

If there's no move support, definitely go with PC.

Activision knows it blew it with PC gamers on the last game and no dedicated servers. But it was too far along in the code to change it when met with criticism and lower sales, and so they're trying to do right by PC gamers this time with VAC and will make sure to keep the game patched and going so PC gamers keep buying the next one and the one after. I have no hard data to support this, it's just me playing Monday Morning QB with the Spock Logic part of my brain.

I hope this helps get people playing hassle free. It'd be fun to team up a bunch of M11x'ers and just go waste the opposition.

 

I have looked up on this and many people are having performance issues on the PC. People who have core i7 CPU and SLI setups are having to turn the game down to 800x600 and it still runs poor for them. I'd say the game is not at all optimized and the paid engineers to correct this stuff before its release all had their thumbs up their poo-holes instead of working on the game.

 

Thanks!~!!! Now i regained my confidence in my m11x but completely lost my confidence towards activision... They screwed this up very bad... And when I heard you had to go online to play combat training, I just jawdropped and stared at the screen, I know how eager activision wants to make money, but this is just so...

 

Oh the shock and horror of having to pay Activision to play combat training.

 

m11x r1 doesnt run black ops in multiplayer well enough/neither single player well, so i switched to my m15x which is a beast.

sadly i've done all the optimization in the console commands and still doesnt help at all. this game is cpu hungry and it isnt really optimized well like how mw2 was.

the m11x isnt really cutting it for me in gaming guess r3 would be better with a higher clock i7 core and better graphics

 

From what I've read, Black Ops just eats your CPU alive so your theory is correct.

 

Really useful and spirited response you gave, THX. The overclock really helps. Still, it's a bit disappointing to see a beta game released for $60. Treyarch, by trying to make the game mysterious and build up hype, forgot that consumer satisfaction matters the most in the business. Why didn't they test the game on different CPU/GPU builds?

I'm just hoping the coding isn't THAT messed up. I hope patches can fix the issue. If the coding is really messed up, the patches might either be of massive sizes or may only help very slightly.