[SUCCESSFUL] Alienware 18 + MSI GTX 1070 MXM

Is there an image or illustration regarding what heatsink modifications to be made for it to seat properly?

 

Different laptop
Clevo P370EM (2012)

 

Eurocom sells a 1070, so does Zotac and MSI
The MSI requires modding heatsink modding as posted on the first page of this thread, the Eurocom doesn't, and the new Zotac is to be seen, but it is recommended to have the AMD heatsink for all so it doesn't crack the PCB.
The 1060 offers good performance, but I would go for a 1070, nothing is "futureproof". You can find them for about $400 and $600-700 respectivly. If I were you, I would get a AW 17 of the same generation and get the 120HZ screen, so you don't need optimus, as that would he optimal

 

Thanks for that. But where I live optimus is kinda a necessity Just installed the unlocked bios and it works fine . Will give it awhile before getting a 1070

 

Why a necessity?
I wouldn't recommend this mod btw

 

Power instability and high power costs. So would wanna save whenever I can. Why won't you recommend it

 

It's a dead platform.

 

Maybe so. But I love the big screen, the sound, the switchable graphics in bios the modularity and most importantly , the charger security check, which if my p157sm had, it would've still been alive and I wouldn't have bought 2 extra mobo that burnt due to same issue. Although if u know any that other that offers these, I'm all ears

 

All of these are offered in a newer laptop, except maybe the charger check, which would easily be solved with a UPS
For that form factor, I recommend the P870TM1, 8700K/dual 1080s
For a smaller form factor, the P751TM1 has a 8700K and a single 1080.
Of course, your alienware still seems to be running you find, but if you have the chance to buy a 1070 MXM, don't and get a new laptop

 

Isn't an 8700k a power-hungry cpu? And do these laptops have optimus ?

 

I have the 8700k in my P870dm-g and I get about 3 hours of battery life, much better than skylake and an improvement over kabylake.

 

Can you link me to a good battery saving guide? I get less than that on my M6700 and its really bothering me

 

I already flash the original vbios(115w), and it can run Furmark for long time.
Maybe my laptop cant support more power by mxm.
I want to ask other people who ues M18R3 for the same question.

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That could be true but I was getting black box artifacts when I was at 170w tdp. I don't think that tdp is healthy for the laptop though as the mxm slot is only rated for 100w. Maximum it could pull and be stable is around 120 to 130w.

 

I don't really know, I just have the power option set to high performance even on battery and it lasts ages. Probably due to the coffee lake architecture because the 6700k would run the battery flat in an hour lol.

 

Lol I get around an hour and a half with Optimus off, but I have terrible hardware

 

Tbf dell precisions are very good, I had a precision 7710 4k and that lasted 6 hours on battery!

You probably saw it in my sig beforehand.

Also best thing about precisions are that they don't lose cpu performance on battery whatsoever! Dell know how to make laptops, I just wish the precision 7730 had mxm capability I would have bought it instantly. I don't care about soldered processors because I buy the best for the time BUT an upgradable GPU is needed.

 

With some optimization, I could easily snag 4 1/2 with a new battery, closer to 7 with the extended one. I lose quite a bit of CPU performance, I locked it to 2.3 GHZ. Soldered CPUs dont bother me too much as long as their decent, but MXM GPUs do

 

Nice to know we got a common mindset lol.

 

Sure... How Dell cripple performance explained by... Never seen my thread?

 

So far I havent seen them do this to the precision line up maybe due to thicker chassis and much better heatsinks. Now they dropped mxm for no good reason I have no need to stick to them. The new hp zbook has a standard mxm socket for the p5200 mxm dell makes pathetic excuses saying there isn't enough space when THE BLOODY HP LAPTOP IS SLIMMER AND SMALLER THAN THE DELL!

Dell is by far NOT the worst when it comes to the precision line up but they aren't as good as clevo or eurocom either.

I should have read that earlier its a good thread.

 

They do have a knack for ruining laptop computer performance with cancer firmware and proprietary crap parts. Everything they touch is buggered up in one or more ways. This applies to their desktop trash as well, including the Alienware branded garbage.

Precision machines have superior build quality, but I won't consider the Dell brand any more for the reasons stated above (as a matter of principle).

 

Depends on if you read reviews Not the newest review but I'm sure you can see the picture And I'm glad you finally read my thread More people shoud start read it.
Dell Precision 5510 Workstation Review

 

I'm sorry I have never even heard of 5 series precision laptops :0

I was on about 7xxx series precision laptops they never go below base clock even on battery. Whatever it maybe 75xx or 77xx they are solid performers. They are probably the best laptops dell makes. That's including the crappy modern alienware lineup too lol.

 

Didn't think the precision lineup had some flawed laptops too, sigh.

I'm keeping my p870dmg for a good 2-3 years until something as slim and as powerful without throttling issues comes out. When I mean slim I mean in the 30-45mm range.

 

And here you have the 3 series Dell Precision 3510 Workstation


"Our stress test shows that the processor clock of the Intel Core i7-6700HQ drops to 2300 MHz after one hour of our stress test, and therefore below the base clock of 2600 MHz"

 

I mean you might aswell buy a dell latitude at that point lol if you want a throttle machine.

 

There are no BGA laptops that would pass the threshold for the elites here in the forum. (BGA meaning CPU and GPU)

I could live with the CPU being soldered if they were all unlocked but GPU's age much faster so they need to be replaceable for it to be still considered.

 

@Papusan I'm sorry but who designed this heatsink lol. One fan for both cpu and GPU they are asking for throttling.

I don't even think metal paste would help in long term loads, the pipes are too thin.

 

It seems most people like it that way too, cpus age slower and now with 6 core cpus you won't see slow downs anytime soon. I still prefer the power of desktop socket cpus.

 

At least not Azor. He handle DELL AW and the XPS line.

But here we go... TWOPOD


Would you use this for your expencive camera?

 

My laptop at work has worse though, temps somehow manage to stay in 90s with a gtx 750m and i7 4510u with this crap.

Edit: and that's with metal paste applied lol. No throttling though, not any that can be seen anyway.

 

Nice job!

 

Interesting, I'd like to see some reviews on it though

 

@Meaker@Sager @Donald@HIDevolution @Mr. Fox Heard about this brand before? And how trustworthy you think the product is? 680W External AC/DC Adapter For Notebooks, Small Form Factor PCs, Industrial PCs... Printed 560w max. See link above.

Seems same manufacturer who make the 780w psu

 

Are you using this on the Alienware 18 ?

 

Thanks. Have you the link to the 680w psu, seller and the manufacturer? Again thanks.

 

Then it seems the seller of the 560/680w psu use stole other mans pictures to promote their laptop power adapter.



The differences..

This is the rear of 560/680w psu.


The orginal 780w

 

Lol good spot.

May not be the same manufacturer. The Chinese counterfeit (or "draw inspiration from") new stuff every day.

It says 35A (~700W) sustained, 45A (~900W) peak for 25 seconds in the item description, and 90% efficiency, if you believe that.

I've seen ratings on PSUs that don't mean a damn, a cheap one that came with a cheap case once that had "785" on the side and it had one 15A 12V (180W) rail...

 

Sure. In a chassis which is nearly 30% smaller than the original

 

Can you provide benchmarks?

 

How do you know the design was not a limited time exclusive or licensed? Seems a bit premature to throw around the word "stolen" before the people involved confirm.

 

Hello all,

Nice work on getting that running. I'm in an upgrade / tinkering mood myself.

I've just ordered a 1070 for my AW18....however I will not have the fitment issue as mine appears to be standard mxm 3.0b, and not with extra power connectors or the extended notch. So I won't be ordering the AMD heatsink unless it looks like it needs it.

Will update when it eventually arrives.

Many Q's....

So I'll soon be dumping my 880M GTXs which are about 18 months old from Dell, if anybody should need them.

In addition, since I will soon have a free MXM slot available, my ideas are;

1) Keep a single 880M GTX for Phys X / compute... or
2) (my preferred option) Since I'll have 8x PCIe lanes free, I'm considering putting together a board to do a dual NVME to PCIe x4, giving them four lanes each. I've already made inquiries for a custom MXM board, I can't imagine the signalling is much different, if at all, to PCIe, but I guess all problems can be solved.

The next idea is to somehow physically link the 3 heatsinks. Other than that cool A. F. watercooling prototype some years ago, has anyone managed to do this?

I'm thinking of forming thin & wide copper strips (insulated), drilling two holes in each heatsink, using paste and a block to secure it flat against the heatsink, and then carry onto the next heatsink in the same manner, and so on. I'm thinking that since no GPU2 will exist, the GPU2 fan will never turn, so maybe I could tag onto the CPU fan pins? Or, use a program to see that it always runs either statically, or based on CPU temperature events?

And finally, does anyone think this: https://www.ebay.ca/itm/4K-18-4-UHD...055729?hash=item25fa0eacf1:g:4y0AAOSwJiJbK39Y will work?

Thanks and regards,

Erik.

 

In sg mode I'm unsure if you can do phsyx , I didn't have a card to test that myself.

And mxm runs at x16 regularly, and people tried making mxm to x16 adapter, but that project seemed to have died

And for the 4k screen you might be able to tag onto the miniDP connector, because the aw18 uses lvds i believe

 

Hi there, and thanks for your response.

I was of the understanding that the x16 lanes are split between the two MXM connectors, 8x lanes each, regardless of whether SLI is disabled or not. I believe I saw this using a small program whos name I've forgotten.

 

I believe the person working on the adapter had it working at 1x speeds, then kinda dropped off the map. I personally do think the adapter is possible, I don't know why it keeps dropping off the map when people work on it

 

Its not practical. You will have similar limitations of whether or not the sBIOS will allow for functionality of the GPU.

Its probably why testing stopped, it wasnt practical.

 

Hi - single GPU installed - and its still at PCIe x8, not x16 lanes.

 

All,

Another AW18 with 1070M installed successfully.

Some photos for you:






What a pain in the @rse the driver mod was.

Here is Win 7 x64 AW18 & 1070M modded for you with 416.94: unzip, and put in place of existing nvdmi.inf file. Thank me later.

First benchmark with no tweaking:


Previous score with 880M (x2) was 8145.

GPU-Z shows bios ver 86.04.31.00.0C. Has anyone got a newer version for me?

Last word - have the 3x3 Wireless AC module installed also, connection speed is now 1.3Gb/s.

Now to investigate the 4k screen mod...

 

Which 1070 are you using?